Direct means no Audyssey EQ working its just in and out.. no processing by denon
Pure Direct the video processor also off, front display also off.. keep the interference to miminal for the audio signal to pass thru.. - me personally cannot hear the differences Pure vs Direct..

ada bro.. sw on..

No wor.. direct, direct pure, stereo.. subwoofer quiet.

What crossover freq u guys set... 60 or 40hz?

Lfe... 120hz?

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Oct 15 2021, 02:43 PM

what front r u using? B&W with no flat top? kekeke

i set my cross over at 60hz.. lfe 120hz.
u remember to put ur speaker to small ya

using paradigms.

B&W is set #2.


btw, i played some vinyls again with the diff variations.

i start to like the simulated DTS + virtual x!

this gives it a brighter, more punchier sound with a 3D sensation.

perhaps it is due to 10 years of HD 5.1 hitting my ears.

how come u 2 lain answer one? one ada sub one xde?

I have only listen to my vinyl on 2.0 till lately some one jahat ask me to plug a sub in n make it 2.1

I am using 80hz, Because all my speaker are bookshelf. Need more subwoofer help. My receiver can not set LFE value. Actually what is LFE 120hz meaning?

This post has been edited by kkthen: Oct 15 2021, 03:49 PM

80 is too high, will get too bassy.
Subwoofers meant to produce v low frequencies.
Bookshelfs shud b able to handle 60.
I wud like to set at 50hz but no such choice.

LFE... Below quote:

This is the low pass filter (LPF) setting of the low frequency effects (LFE) channel. ... This is the high frequency cutoff point for the LFE, also known as the . 1 channel in a 5.1/6.1/7.1 surround source. In practice this should always be set to 120Hz since the LFE channel supports information up to that frequency.

how come u 2 lain answer one? one ada sub one xde?
Stereo got sub 1 but very weak signal send to sub.. normally i will increase sub vol +3db if i really wan sub to play louder.. not sure what problem with mine.. but mine multieq normal not x32 la




I have only listen to my vinyl on 2.0 till lately some one jahat ask me to plug a sub in n make it 2.1
siapa siapa?

This post has been edited by kevinlim001: Oct 15 2021, 04:46 PM

LFE 120hz.. means u only give low frequency says from 10hz to 120hz only.. so ur sub freq response range will be wider.. if u set it to 80hz then got narrower range .. no perfect setting but can try to see how the fronts and sub blend along

that is interesting, gotta read more about it!

why stop at 2.1?

u ada sub, try dts+virtual x 5.1/7.1 la...!

time to quit being stuck in 2.0 of the 60s/70s forever.

but dunno what AVR u hv...?



today, i tested the video side for this denon 3700.

the upscaling 1080p->4K is v good, i mean for full bdmv's.

and if it is in dtsx... set to dtsx+virtual x... like Fate of the furious, jason bourne... vv nice.

the dts height virtualization is not great-great but can hear the diff... feels more like in a cinema.

still waiting on my atmos pair.... i m dying to compare DDtrueHD+atmos with DTShdma+virtual X.

or maybe DTShdma+Neural X is a better comparison?

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Oct 15 2021, 09:43 PM

I'm using a Denon AVR also

but the vinyl setup is on a diff floor, using those integrated amp

so many things to set one ar? I always try to watch the movie as intended.. the audio effect macam private limited ler...

bro.. for ur light reading..
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/in...q-review.12746/

i got my new avr last week and run the calibration twice.. first on the unit itself then using audyssey app. i had turn off mid range compensation and adjusted the bass boost curve but yet to apply to the unit.. wait later adjust to the unit and see if i can get better result.

ini dun play play yo.. level 1 cinema level 2 orchestra theater level 3 amphitheater

Thanks, will read... see if i will do audyssey a 3rd round.

Audyssey didnt do a good job with the SW, had to tweak manual.


What avr did u buy?

If u r a purist, the integrated amp for vinvyl stereo sound is fine, v original!

Vinyls, I listen to both original stereo... and simulated surround, some come out v nice, not all.

For digital files, I hv some remastered dts5.1 albums.

these, oòoo.... dts surround, dts dsurround.. can be awesome!


Almost done with the new set up, learned a few new things.

Now, gotta watch some movies n see if they sound diff or the same.

yea, I tried the dts files on the Denon avr, without any enhancement la, set to auto

not bad, I experience tat many many years ago, 1st time hearing it was wow

now macam so so only hahahha

especially must test with Santana black magic womannnnnn

dts music files - some are private upmix, some are genuine studio remix.

try... metallica black album, beatles abbey road 50th anniversary!

black magic woman... think not genuine dts5.1 version.... so, i bought the vinyl Santana Abraxas from Amazon!

this, i agree, should be.

i try a couple of positions.

best i could get is to place on top of my surround speakers which are already wall mounted.. to bounce off the ceiling.

putting on top of front speakers has minimal effect.

hmm... u may be right after all.

after trying all kinds of settings, i now think 80hz for front, center and surround are quite OK... maybe becos i adjusted the SW vol, distance, dB...?

what about the atmos speakers? 80, 100, 120hz?

it can get confusing... too many variations, too many possibilities!!

alright, now that i have completed my 5.1.2 setup and tested the new equipment (Denon X3700H, Onkyo SKH410 Atmos speakers), i'll just summarize:

.. the Denon is good value for money, plentiful features, easy to use, lots of info available online.

.. it is impt to test by trial n error on a few things... audyssey incl... crossover frequencies, vol db, speaker distances, subwoofer vol, atmos speaker positioning, etc.
took me a few days to finally settle on what i hear is best for me.

.. 8K, 4k/8k upscaling... i find the 1080p upscaling to 4k v good for BDMV movies.

.. the atmos pair i have placed on top of the surrounds for upward firing gives a mild 3D-height effect but is audible.
these r tiny speakers for a tiny room but i'm satisfied... now, i think hv a true cinema!

.. i like the many audio output options for any input... DD, DTS +surround, +DSurround, +neural x, rock arena, matrix, etc.
these option surely allow u to find one that will satisfy u for that piece u r playing.

.. my inputs are turntable(phono), media player local playback (hdmi), android box apps (hdmi) and smart ATV tv streaming (optical).

.. i like the internet radio and firmware OTA.

.. i doubt i will use too many of the other features but likely will upgrade to an OLED/DV tv and media player in the next year or 2.

.. on the negative side, i see risk with the main unit w/o the relevant buttons to continue usage if the remote fails; old onkyo has these buttons.

.. the main unit gets a little warmer than i like but is not hot.

overall, a fun few days toying with all that. now, i just want to enjoy it for next 10 years!

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https://shopee.com.my/Onkyo-SKH-410-Dolby-A...07430.286123752

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Oct 19 2021, 07:37 AM