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post Oct 10 2021, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 10 2021, 07:12 AM)
are you using just 1 pair shown in the picture or there is another pair in front?

before fixing them at ceiling, did u try a "reflect from ceiling" position... any diff?

those speakers are normal bookshelfs, right?
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My living room is small , so I only use one pair overhead speaker. I try to move the direction of overhead speaker tweeter toward to my ear when I sit at center of sofa, you can try different angle degree sure got different effect. My surround speaker & overhead speaker are same model. They are xtz 93.21, normal surround speaker with frequency response 49 Hz - 25 kHz. Their bass reflex ports design in front of speaker, suitable hang at wall .

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post Oct 10 2021, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(kkthen @ Oct 10 2021, 07:43 AM)
My living room is small , so I only use one pair overhead speaker.  I try to move the direction of overhead speaker tweeter toward to my ear when I sit at center of sofa, you can try different angle degree sure got different effect.  My surround speaker & overhead speaker are same model. They are xtz 93.21, normal surround speaker with frequency response  49 Hz - 25 kHz. Their bass reflex ports design in front of speaker, suitable hang at  wall .
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yup bro.. i think u made a point there

Their bass reflex ports design in front of speaker

if the port is at the rear of the speaker.. the place of the speaker must be further away from wall but front ported has less placement restriction thumbup.gif

you got hell of a big speaker hanging there! notworthy.gif

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post Oct 10 2021, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(kkthen @ Oct 10 2021, 07:43 AM)
My living room is small , so I only use one pair overhead speaker.  I try to move the direction of overhead speaker tweeter toward to my ear when I sit at center of sofa, you can try different angle degree sure got different effect.  My surround speaker & overhead speaker are same model. They are xtz 93.21, normal surround speaker with frequency response  49 Hz - 25 kHz. Their bass reflex ports design in front of speaker, suitable hang at  wall .
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ok, TQ for info, good to know.

i think i will also place just 1 pair above the surrounds.

but probably place them on top of the surrounds (hung at wall), angled to fire upwards to reflect down.

my AV room is even smaller, low ceiling... so, i'm hopeful upward firing may work.

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post Oct 10 2021, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Oct 10 2021, 09:03 AM)
yup bro.. i think u made a point there

Their bass reflex ports design in front of speaker

if the port is at the rear of the speaker.. the place of the speaker must be further away from wall but front ported has less placement restriction  thumbup.gif

you got hell of a big speaker hanging there! notworthy.gif
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Yes. overhead speaker better use front bass reflex port or sealed box design, So we can place it close to wall.
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post Oct 10 2021, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(kkthen @ Oct 10 2021, 12:08 AM)
If you only got 1 pair overhead speakers. SHL & SHR position are better.
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I see...... but my placement quite hard to do SHL & SHR..... Will see how to rearrange.

Waiting to change my front L/C/R 1st... haha
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post Oct 10 2021, 12:18 PM

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among these 3.. which will u go for?

elac
https://shopee.com.my/ELAC-Debut-2.0-A4.2-A...630?position=18
https://www.elac.com/dolby-atmos-add-on-spe...rs/debut-2-a42/

wharfedale
https://shopee.com.my/Wharfedale-D300-3D-Do...263?position=11
https://www.wharfedale.co.uk/d300-3d/

onkyo
https://shopee.com.my/Onkyo-SKH-410-Dolby-A...752?position=13
https://www.intl.onkyo.com/products/speaker...-410/index.html

the onkyo is the cheapest but is single cone, lighter, smaller... but max power 100w?
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post Oct 10 2021, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 10 2021, 12:18 PM)
I remember your top of main front speaker not Flat, how do you put atmos enable speaker on top? But you can try Wharfedale-D300 which also can be mouthed at wall if you fail to get good result as atmos enable speaker on top of your front speaker.
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QUOTE(kkthen @ Oct 10 2021, 01:33 PM)
I remember your top of  main front speaker not Flat, how  do you put atmos enable speaker on top? But you can try Wharfedale-D300 which also  can be mouthed at  wall  if you fail to get good result as atmos enable speaker on top  of your front speaker.
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correct, my main speakers top are curved, cannot place on top.

planning to place on top of the surround (side) which are wall mounted, thus no need to drill or hang separately.

becos these existing side speakers aren't big, i can't use big heavy ones that weight 2.5, 3kg each as atmos.

which leaves me with only the onkyo 1.2kg... but it has only single cone, yet rated 25-100W.

will it work well enough? hmm.gif

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post Oct 11 2021, 09:18 AM

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I use a pair of Yamaha ceiling speakers, whole thing sealed in the ceiling

effect or not I not sure good or not la hahah
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post Oct 11 2021, 09:20 AM

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You guys blasts your speakers?

I can’t even get to the boomy sub bass level else people already bising. Lol
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post Oct 11 2021, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(Jjoottt @ Oct 11 2021, 09:20 AM)
You guys blasts your speakers?

I can’t even get to the boomy sub bass level else people already bising. Lol
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other ppl is neighbour or house member?
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post Oct 11 2021, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Oct 11 2021, 09:23 AM)
other ppl is neighbour or house member?
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House member. Lol

So far haven’t reached the level neighbors bising yet, don’t think it will reach. That’s why I will not need to upgrade my speakers anymore. Lol

By the way, I moved up from TV speakers to satellites to floorstanding and then did an upgrade to old and used B&W (which will be final. Lol). Thought I wouldn’t need a sub after that upgrade but felt not enough bass. So… Added an entry level sub for that little bass (for that little oomph) and that’s it for me.

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post Oct 11 2021, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Oct 11 2021, 09:18 AM)
I use a pair of Yamaha ceiling speakers, whole thing sealed in the ceiling

effect or not I not sure good or not la hahah
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u said several times u dun find much diff with all kinds of hi tech stuff.

ever did checkup with an audio-ear specialist? tongue.gif

QUOTE(Jjoottt @ Oct 11 2021, 09:20 AM)
You guys blasts your speakers?

I can’t even get to the boomy sub bass level else people already bising. Lol
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highrise, susah.

gotta have a well insulated dedicated room if u really wanna blast, for hours! laugh.gif
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post Oct 11 2021, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(Jjoottt @ Oct 11 2021, 09:20 AM)
You guys blasts your speakers?

I can’t even get to the boomy sub bass level else people already bising. Lol
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not sure if my neighbour enjoy the house massage i m giving to them hmm.gif
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post Oct 11 2021, 09:51 AM

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ok la, house member then nvm hahaha

@avfan, actually meet up with my ear digger ok dy
macam mono become stereo after digging
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post Oct 11 2021, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Oct 11 2021, 09:18 AM)
I use a pair of Yamaha ceiling speakers, whole thing sealed in the ceiling

effect or not I not sure good or not la hahah
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Actually I also not sure effect of my overhead bookshelf speaker good or not. I only sure when my receiver show Atmos, dts-x, imax enhanced, Sound density of dialog will be improve.
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QUOTE(kkthen @ Oct 11 2021, 10:37 AM)
Actually I also not sure effect of my overhead bookshelf speaker good or not.    I only  sure when my receiver show Atmos, dts-x, imax enhanced, Sound density of dialog will be improve.
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next time put a tape over ur AVR
after watching liao only check is it atmos or not
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post Oct 11 2021, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Oct 11 2021, 10:40 AM)
next time put a tape over ur AVR
after watching liao only check is it atmos or not
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No need. My av receiver cannot direct detect atmos , even the source is atmos. I always need to manual change Dolby truehd or DD+ to atmos. So I always got the chance to hear the different of non atmos & Atmos effect.

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post Oct 11 2021, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(kkthen @ Oct 11 2021, 11:48 AM)
No need. My av receiver cannot direct detect atmos , even the source is atmos.    I always need to manual  change Dolby truehd or DD+  to atmos.  So I always got the chance to hear the different of  non atmos & Atmos  effect.
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cannot detect but can output?
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post Oct 11 2021, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Oct 11 2021, 01:12 PM)
cannot detect but can output?
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Can not auto detect atmos . Need to use remote control to change "Dolby Truehd + dolby surround mode " or "dolby digital plus + dolby surround mode" to get Dolby Atmos.

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