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 How to identify Fake/Counterfeit KF94 mask?

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post Aug 28 2021, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(vincentboleh @ Aug 28 2021, 04:53 PM)
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Yeah thanks to this thread did some research and seems like Neutrovis kf94 is not yet in the MDA database. So far only been wearing it in the car commuting or open window to talk to policeman at roadblock. It's too bad as just made a big order and now have a bunch of masks. Now decided get some Respack someone mentioned upthread as it's in the MDA database at least.

Though will stick to 3m for real protection when going out. I was stocking up on the kf94 cause the earloops & was cheaper to throw away daily. The 3m one with earloop (9501?) is awfully uncomfortable & pinches the ear down even after 5 minutes. The new-ish 9513 has earloops but super expensive at $4-5 each but that's probably the way to go for me then. Will keep an eye on this thread to try out actual korean kf94s but tbh i rather buy from 3M official than some random store.
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post Aug 28 2021, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(westernkl @ Aug 28 2021, 12:00 AM)
Where to buy Respack/Vircast?
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Watsons got sell vircast. Can buy from foodpanda or grab or Watsons online. Respack can buy at Caring pharmacy I remember. https://estore.caring2u.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=kf94 Respack got online shop also https://www.packxpress.my
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post Aug 28 2021, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Aug 28 2021, 06:43 AM)
this one better  .. with certification from FDA  and  KFDA.
its listed  on the FDA site  with performance  test results .

https://shopee.com.my/1P-%E2%96%A0-KF94-4pl...847.10321502787
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Bought a few to test. Thanks for info & link.
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post Aug 28 2021, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(lawliet88 @ Aug 28 2021, 04:31 AM)
yuka zan is local Msia one, but whether is local made or import duno la
thing with local mask manufacturer (except those few old brand that been there before the outbreak), our local news didnt do much coverage to educate ppl about it
W HK all got very strict control and news got do coverage about them.
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Yukazan is China made. How to identify, whenever you see inside your box got small piece of cert, means exported out from China. Also if individually packed higher possibility it's made from Korea.. Yukazan is pack of 10s in a box. I'm using it currently. So far I've bought a lot of different brand KF94 even made in Korea ones. Yukazan seems to better fit my face , although do note that per pack it comes with 2 colors blsck and navy blue, 5 per color, the straps for blue ones are super tight so if you're wearing it for long hours your ears will literally hurt very bad.

Ive just received a shipment from Korea kf94. Rm2.3 per pcs, just to try.
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post Aug 28 2021, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(Selectt @ Aug 28 2021, 05:36 PM)
how do u even verify the cert?  rolleyes.gif
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OK la, at least I am able to find it in FDA website.

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh...694626&lpcd=LYU
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post Aug 28 2021, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(mochicake @ Aug 28 2021, 05:40 PM)
Yeah thanks to this thread did some research and seems like Neutrovis kf94 is not yet in the MDA database. So far only been wearing it in the car commuting or open window to talk to policeman at roadblock. It's too bad as just made a big order and now have a bunch of masks. Now decided get some Respack someone mentioned upthread as it's in the MDA database at least.

Though will stick to 3m for real protection when going out. I was stocking up on the kf94 cause the earloops & was cheaper to throw away daily. The 3m one with earloop (9501?) is awfully uncomfortable & pinches the ear down even after 5 minutes. The new-ish 9513 has earloops but super expensive at $4-5 each but that's probably the way to go for me then. Will keep an eye on this thread to try out actual korean kf94s but tbh i rather buy from 3M official than some random store.
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I bought a box of 3M kn95 9501+. The earloops are not suitable for me too, as they're too tight. And unlike its predecessor (?) 9501, the 9501+ doesn't have the piece of foam at the nose area, causing minor leakage despite its tight earloops.
However, 3M is definitely easier to breathe as it does not have many layers (uses electrostatic charged material to capture particles).

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post Aug 28 2021, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Aug 28 2021, 08:40 PM)
I bought a box of 3M kn95 9501+. The earloops are not suitable for me too, as they're too tight. And unlike its predecessor (?) 9501, the 9501+ doesn't have the piece of foam at the nose area, causing minor leakage despite its tight earloops.
However, 3M is definitely easier to breathe as it does not have many layers (uses electrostatic charged material to capture particles).
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for safety purposes, I only buy from 3M and from its flagship stores. 3M has NIOSH N95 certification which I dont think those local brands hv it. And talking about KF94, how do we verify their cert? Many doesnt hv a cert too, they just write there KF94 and u believe?
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post Aug 28 2021, 09:48 PM

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I watch this guy on youtube and he does comprehensive reviews & tests of various masks - https://www.youtube.com/user/coll0412

But all the brands he try are super expensive cause even though from HK or Asia as their pricing is for Americans/western world. I tried an order at Masklab with MYR pricing and it end up almost RM16 for 1 kf94 mask because shipping doubles the cost. Even then RM8 per mask better buy 3M N95 from official store.

Also follow the subreddit Masks4all but again they talk about these masks that might not be available here - or i can't find them but tbh haven't exactly looked hard yet. Someone did mention this "Good Manner" mask so bought a few today to test - https://shopee.com.my/Good-Manner-KF94-face...3063.9737186425 - anyone tried before?



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post Aug 28 2021, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Aug 28 2021, 08:12 PM)
OK la, at least I am able to find it in FDA website.

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh...694626&lpcd=LYU
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ok thanks. let others analyze if its valid.
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post Aug 28 2021, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(mochicake @ Aug 28 2021, 09:48 PM)
I watch this guy on youtube and he does comprehensive reviews & tests of various masks - https://www.youtube.com/user/coll0412

But all the brands he try are super expensive cause even though from HK or Asia as their pricing is for Americans/western world. I tried an order at Masklab with MYR pricing and it end up almost RM16 for 1 kf94 mask because shipping doubles the cost. Even then RM8 per mask better buy 3M N95 from official store.

Also follow the subreddit Masks4all but again they talk about these masks that might not be available here - or i can't find them but tbh haven't exactly looked hard yet. Someone did mention this "Good Manner" mask so bought a few today to test - https://shopee.com.my/Good-Manner-KF94-face...3063.9737186425 - anyone tried before?
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When you said you bought to test, what sort of tests are you looking at? The thing with coronavirus is, unlike the haze where you can smell it, we cannot tell whether the respirator is indeed filtering the virus. Just have to trust the manufacturers.
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post Aug 28 2021, 11:46 PM

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Hello, mochicake, mushigen and others,

Do you do a water test of 3M kn95 9501? Will drop like below?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPBx7L0Vco0
Respack 4ply KN95 vs KF94 Review
Timestamp 1:55

If you open/not open and take a 3M kn95 9501 hide the light, can you see the translucent lines and dots there?

Thank you.

QUOTE(mushigen @ Aug 28 2021, 11:35 PM)
When you said you bought to test, what sort of tests are you looking at? The thing with coronavirus is, unlike the haze where you can smell it, we cannot tell whether the respirator is indeed filtering the virus. Just have to trust the manufacturers.
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This post has been edited by yourinfohere: Aug 28 2021, 11:47 PM
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post Aug 29 2021, 12:08 AM

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Any comments about Wiicare KF94 masks? Kinda expensive as compared to the others..RM 85 for 25pcs

https://shopee.com.my/product/295851137/107...34-1630166843.9
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post Aug 29 2021, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Aug 28 2021, 11:35 PM)
When you said you bought to test, what sort of tests are you looking at? The thing with coronavirus is, unlike the haze where you can smell it, we cannot tell whether the respirator is indeed filtering the virus. Just have to trust the manufacturers.
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I don’t have any specific tests but after buying what’s recommended just see if suit my face shape or irritate my skin and see any inhale/exhale escape, how much in general but no precise readings. The subreddit does talk about ways to test at home like making a scent spray and whatnot but not sure how deep i wanna go with all that yet.

edit - how to diy home fit test https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/dis...ECBF5725047D7C8

https://youtu.be/TRCZ8Qnf0Z0

QUOTE(yourinfohere @ Aug 28 2021, 11:46 PM)
Hello, mochicake, mushigen and others,

Do you do a water test of 3M kn95 9501? Will drop like below?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPBx7L0Vco0
Respack 4ply KN95 vs KF94 Review
Timestamp 1:55

If you open/not open and take a 3M kn95 9501 hide the light, can you see the translucent lines and dots there?

Thank you.
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Uh i haven't test like that. Since get from 3m official store i have no doubt about it so don't want waste one. I try light test tomorrow.

This post has been edited by mochicake: Aug 29 2021, 01:45 AM
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QUOTE(Selectt @ Aug 28 2021, 05:29 PM)
i say dont need to work super hard on this. just wear double mask and yr problem solved. I say this is common sense.

if u find it hard to breath in ur mask, it is 99% working. When u cannot take oxygen from outside air when wearing mask, it is clearly been filtered or blocked. It is a very good reminder that you dont stay too long outside.

If its somehow easy to breath, maybe 95% or less working, depending on your needs. I know it is a weak judgment but it will work.

all these local made mask brand, lol up to you if you want to buy to 'relieve your worry'.
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+1 wear double is fine
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post Aug 29 2021, 01:54 AM

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Thank you for your reply.

IMO, risk low, before you throw this KN 95 into bin, just soak a soap water then dry it out and test it.
I think I ok, just careful, simply wash it and put water see how.

QUOTE(mochicake @ Aug 29 2021, 12:50 AM)
I don’t have any specific tests but after buying what’s recommended just see if suit my face shape or irritate my skin and see any inhale/exhale escape, how much in general but no precise readings. The subreddit does talk about ways to test at home like making a scent spray and whatnot but not sure how deep i wanna go with all that yet.

edit - how to diy home fit test https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/dis...ECBF5725047D7C8

https://youtu.be/TRCZ8Qnf0Z0
Uh i haven't test like that. Since get from 3m official store i have no doubt about it so don't want waste one. I try light test tomorrow.
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post Aug 29 2021, 03:09 AM

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Any of you wear cloth mask over kn95/kf94?
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Ahh yes, some nice info here.
Gonna get some for myself
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QUOTE(yourinfohere @ Aug 28 2021, 11:46 PM)
Hello, mochicake, mushigen and others,

Do you do a water test of 3M kn95 9501? Will drop like below?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPBx7L0Vco0
Respack 4ply KN95 vs KF94 Review
Timestamp 1:55

If you open/not open and take a 3M kn95 9501 hide the light, can you see the translucent lines and dots there?

Thank you.
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Wow…. Respack supporters should really reconsider if that is the quality of their certified 4ply kn95
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post Aug 29 2021, 06:01 AM

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Guys, go get those copper ion masks.
Kills virus in 1 minute, and its cloth mask
Washable, and can use for 1 year
I bought from lazada terminus
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.dCV7Y
and also another is ion masks
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.dCfHb

Both are similar technology
Just use this ontop of ur normal 3ply paper mask
Safety & economy wise, its still better
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post Aug 29 2021, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(yourinfohere @ Aug 28 2021, 11:46 PM)
Hello, mochicake, mushigen and others,

Do you do a water test of 3M kn95 9501? Will drop like below?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPBx7L0Vco0
Respack 4ply KN95 vs KF94 Review
Timestamp 1:55

If you open/not open and take a 3M kn95 9501 hide the light, can you see the translucent lines and dots there?

Thank you.
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I'll try the water test when I'm about to throw one away. As for light test, what lines and dots are you referring to, and "hide the light"?

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