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post Sep 11 2007, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(jason_killer @ Sep 11 2007, 02:13 AM)
Wow~~ its V4~~ Congrats~~ thumbup.gif
Crazymouse , there's 1 part missing .**DIET **
U're now working it out, right?  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Yups, KP is doing the diet. I a bit penat with all the typing coz not cut and paste but most my own words. Only 1 or 2 paragraph I cut and paste.

QUOTE(vincent09 @ Sep 11 2007, 11:25 AM)
Oic so easy to clean hehe, hmm better go look around XD.
Hope can get few toys for my Ah Pit XD.
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You won't find the pouch at any petshop. It is only found in LYN.

QUOTE(broken_string @ Sep 11 2007, 12:07 PM)
hi
how much poo will a joey produce laugh.gif
my joey doesnt seem to poo much

i saw 2 piece only and dint see any pee either sweat.gif
is it normal ?
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Mine poo damn alot! LOL.... eat fruits and mix, alot of poo poo. Pee like waterfall.

QUOTE(dai86 @ Sep 11 2007, 12:14 PM)
actually it depend on the suggie it self i think. i pet 2 suggie, but everyday get different quantity poo. haha... sometimes a lot, sometimes little. it depent on the food we give them also. haha.. correct me if i wrong.
oh ya, meal worm. is the dry meal wrong work? those dry meal worm for fish? i just start to try it out, and they eat, just half of it. the dry meal worm is in small cube size, so is easy to handle, and.. not alive. haha...

just get a pair of suggie for my friends yesterday. haha... (will add up my suggie work) haha....
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Don't add the 2 new gliders to your current ones, it is not healthy.

That is not dry mealworms sweat.gif That is tubifex, pound worms that eat pond shit..... also there are added preservatives inside meant for preserving it dry and it is ONLY suitable for fish. Who told you to feed tubifex worms? I wouldn't even touch live ones that I have for my fish coz they are quite gross.

Please do not substitute insects with what you can find at petshops and fish shops that are either preserved or processed. Just feed live ones. It is much healthier and safer. You may end up giving gut problems to your glider if you experiment on petshop stuff.

QUOTE(hackerzx @ Sep 11 2007, 04:57 PM)
why sumtime so active..jump2 aiya..i pn pning..gigit2 lagi...but when time to sleep..mcm mati lols..
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Gliders memang active. I punya pun lompat sini sana. Gigit, you read the 1st page. I dah explain.

QUOTE(vincent09 @ Sep 11 2007, 06:36 PM)
Ai.... today what happen on MidValley , like buy 1 free 3 like that, all auntie buy thing and go to car there put stock and go in buy again, all the time stuck in car park there and no parking at all, all ppl just go back car put stock and go in buy and come out put stock.....

Today just go back Ikiano there, i found out vitamin supplement for rep or turtle( is it ok for sugar glider?), calcium for rep is no suitable for suger glider because of got phosphate.
T-T so today nothing to buy for my Ah Pit....

If calcium for human use got vitamin D & magnesium is it ok for sugar glider? My mum having the calcium pallet.
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The vitamin for reptiles in Ikano are not suitable. Sera or AZOO are not suitable. Only Repti Vite is ok. If you cannot find vitamin powder, get vitamin drops for hamsters.

No, there should not be added magnesium coz our dosage for magnesium is too much for gliders.

QUOTE(vincent09 @ Sep 11 2007, 06:51 PM)
Hmm 1 more thing i found out is  Ikiano there got a organic shop that selling Calcium drink that made by oat ,  also don't know suitable for sugar glider or not. 

Maybe need feed some non fat yogurt for my Ah Pit get some calcium. Event dry cat food also got calcium that i see today XD. Ya i know cat food not good XD.
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Oat drink is ok. But you should check and make sure it has no oil, no soya and is free of sugar and preservatives. I still believe the only milk suitable for gliders is Pets Own pet milk which is Lactose free.

Yogurt is the best source of calcium but never give more than a teaspoon each day. Best is half a teaspoon. Too much can cause diarrhea. Never choose fat free yogurt. Feed Low Fat yogurt or normal yogurt.

QUOTE(vincent09 @ Sep 11 2007, 07:13 PM)
Ai i already feed my sugar glider cat food for long time.... need to change for that.

So what i can do to replace the cat food? Egg? Meat ? besides mealworm.

Aiya always forget this 1, i read 1 website say that got 1 food can help sugar glider for calcium that is Tofu, but also can't over do it just limited for the diet.

I less take yogurt, is it outside got sell non-fat yogurt? If yes then will be nice, no need make my Ah Pit become fat fat girl.

Now still searching what nutrial food that can provide calcium and safe for sugar glider.
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Sugar gliders cannot take anything that is made from soya bean. Tofu is made with a solidifying powder that could cause health problems in gliders when taken too much so the best is not giving any.

QUOTE(sense_less143 @ Sep 11 2007, 07:15 PM)
i have a question. sometimes, when i jog n sweat, n have wasabi inside my shirt, he would lick me. i thought he's thirsty, but when i offer water or even fruits he dun want.. just asking, is it bad for sg to lick on human sweat?
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Our sweat salty mah. Contains alot of minerals. Gliders like to lick up sweat hahha.

QUOTE(vincent09 @ Sep 11 2007, 07:48 PM)
Woo hoo found 1 thing need to share with guys,
http://sandmanssugargliders.com/diet.html
The amout of calcium for what we feed to sugar glider.
Have a look XD. If anything wrong pls tell about it.

Ok I found out Tofu quite not good for glider, will effect sugar glider reproductive systems.
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That is a good site. That is not the amount of calcium. It shows which food has the highest calcium to phosphorus ratio. We should give foods that are high in calcium and low in phosphorus. Since a lot of fruits are low in calcium, this is why we must give calcium supplements.
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so you're saying that licking my sweat is good for sugar gliders?? :3

(yeah, eww, but hey, FREE NOURISHMENTS)
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post Sep 11 2007, 10:59 PM

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i feed honey dew to my joey today he love it biggrin.gif

but when i feed him mix, he will lick it but then it will produce pieces of sand like thingy and fall down from his mouth.

i was quite puzzle with that thingy, why after licking the mix it will produce those thing? when i press on it, it will become the mix back but juz a bit solid without water.
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crazymouse_yyh about the rep-cal and rep-vital, what is the brand of that supplement ? It is call aristopet ?
What i can do for that? Is it just for making mix food or can simply add on those food on sugar glider ?

Hamster vitamin drops ( got alot type, got honey, berry, vege ) from delikate, is it those vitamin drops, i look those ingredient quite fat fat. Is ok to let sugar glider having it ?

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QUOTE(sense_less143 @ Sep 11 2007, 10:27 PM)
so you're saying that licking my sweat is good for sugar gliders?? :3

(yeah, eww, but hey, FREE NOURISHMENTS)
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Hahaha.... don't do it too often hehehe....

QUOTE(broken_string @ Sep 11 2007, 10:59 PM)
i feed honey dew to my joey today he love it biggrin.gif

but when i feed him mix, he will lick it but then it will produce pieces of sand like thingy and fall down from his mouth.

i was quite puzzle with that thingy, why after licking the mix it will produce those thing? when i press on it, it will become the mix back but juz a bit solid without water.
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That is spitting out the pulp. All gliders do that.

QUOTE(vincent09 @ Sep 11 2007, 11:00 PM)
crazymouse_yyh about the rep-cal and rep-vital, what is the brand of that supplement ?  It is call aristopet ?
What i can do for that? Is it just for making mix food or can simply add on those food on sugar glider ?

Hamster vitamin drops ( got alot type, got honey, berry, vege ) from delikate, is it those vitamin drops, i look those ingredient quite fat fat. Is ok to let sugar glider having it ?
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Yes, it is Aristopet, that is the manufacturer. Name of product is Repti Cal and Repti Vite. Rep Cal and Rel Vital is a different brand and different Manufacturer. It is to add on any food that is to be fed on sugar gliders. If you add in mix, no need on fruits....

What in the world were you looking at? What you mean fat fat? Vitamin drops is in a bottle, liquid, is to be mixed into the drinking water.
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Aiya i thought those snack drop that provide vitamin and minerals. I can't found those vitamin drop,
Aristopet also got product that is call repti-vite. Is it same as your repti-vite?
http://www.aristopet.com.au/Library/Downlo...Vite%20INFO.pdf
It is this also can for sugar glider? Maybe i ask for pet shop is it posible to get.

Let's say i have make a mix food from website they list, but they didn't tell that how long that can keep for those mix food, 1 week? or 1 month? Any idea about that ??

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Sep 11 2007, 11:33 PM)
Hahaha.... don't do it too often hehehe....
That is spitting out the pulp. All gliders do that.
Yes, it is Aristopet, that is the manufacturer. Name of product is Repti Cal and Repti Vite. Rep Cal and Rel Vital is a different brand and different Manufacturer. It is to add on any food that is to be fed on sugar gliders. If you add in mix, no need on fruits....

What in the world were you looking at? What you mean fat fat? Vitamin drops is in a bottle, liquid, is to be mixed into the drinking water.
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Sep 11 2007, 11:45 PM)
Aiya i thought those snack drop that provide vitamin and minerals. I can't found those vitamin drop,
Aristopet also got product that is call repti-vite. Is it same as your repti-vite?
http://www.aristopet.com.au/Library/Downlo...Vite%20INFO.pdf
It is this also can for sugar glider? Maybe i ask for pet shop is it posible to get.

Let's say i have make a mix food from website they list, but they didn't tell that how long that can keep for those mix food, 1 week? or 1 month? Any idea about that ??
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I don't think you read what I stated.... I already said a few times, Repti Vite...... but you still don't get it. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

All mixes can be kept for 1 month. Websites do stated that it is a month's supply. You better read carefully, you seem to be missing out, even my statement above also you missed out. Read back my other postings, I also stated Repti Cal and Repti Vite are the only safe supplements to give.
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OK i keep seaching for that, anywhere thank you for the info and make me clear about that.


Oh i know i miss out what thing Rel Vital & repti vite, sorry for type wrong word on post 44
Actually is ask for repti-cal & repti-vite.


Repti-cal is for calcium, repti-vite is for vitamin & mineral, so these two thing add in for mix food will be ok. ( Am i right? XD)
Less than 1 pinch for 1 sugar glider.

Hmm about the mix food for 1 month is under froozen or just normal refrigerator that keep soft drink?

Can wait to make a mix food for my Ah Pit.

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If you add the calcium and vitamin everyday, it has to be less than 1 pinch. But what I do is put everything in the mix and freeze. 1 small spoon of calcium and 1 small spoon of vitamin. Use the kfc spoon that you use to eat the mash potatoes.... Teaspoon also can but must be level teaspoon.

You have to keep in freezer, not where you put soft drinks. It is keep in the place where you put ice and meat.
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OK, Thank you alot crazymouse_yyh, maybe i try ask the pet shop c can help me get or not, not Ikiano la so far, I live in klang 1 XD.

If the mix food broken or become bad, is it will smilly or anything i know that is already bad food already? I scare later havn't 1 month already become bad food already.
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It will smell sour and taste bad....
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I see. Maybe make a note for that, if later become smelly my mum wil scold me bla bla bla bla XD.

Hope that pet shop can help me take or what. I have feed my Ah Pit dry cat food for long time, is time help her to change healty food, now Ah Pit got bad habit that every morning also want take 1 dry cat food from me.

After make mix food and need to tell her no more cat food lo biggrin.gif



Hmm if get two of them just left the baby food research XD. Really need to go supermarket look around. Oh yea honey also.

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check if it's too young 1st la-- 1st page.
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i think still baby one lorr...worries...

cont my research lah....
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Make sure it is not too young. Pet Safari are not always truthful with age. Never be tempted to take really young gliders unless you have done your research on raising underage joeys and know how to keep 1 in an incubator....
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Today i just get my repti-cal and repti-vite, i have ask the pet shop is it will restock? They say the stock is new arrive, but the expire day will be 2008 apr and march, but they say after expire day also can use, is it true ???

Later go make some mix food for my Ah Pit.
Oh yea 1 thing that come up with my mind, everytime when we want to take a sponn of mix food, so we take out from the refrigerator, after that we put back after use, but is it nice for the mix food that put in take out from refrigerator everyday?, Those food like meat, fish or what else if doing like that the food will spoil.

If the mix food with egg, is it better that don't use the egg yolk? I feel like don't give will be better.

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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Sep 12 2007, 04:31 PM)
Today i just get my repti-cal and repti-vite, i have ask the pet shop is it will restock? They say the stock is new arrive, but the expire day will be 2008 apr and march, but they say after expire day also can use, is it true ???

Later go make some mix food for my Ah Pit.
Oh yea 1 thing that come up with my mind, everytime when we want to take a sponn of mix food, so we take out from the refrigerator, after that we put back after use, but is it nice for the mix food that put in take out from refrigerator everyday?, Those food like meat, fish or what else if doing like that the food will spoil.

If the mix food with egg, is it better that don't use the egg yolk? I feel like don't give will be better.
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Firstly, the stock is old. Any Repti Vite and Repti Cal that expires in 2008 is stock from 2005. I did say the stock would expire in 2008 a few post before. The manufacturer made the product to have a shelf life of 3 years.... after the expiry date, it can only be used for another 5 months, after that cannot be used anymore. The local distributor of Aristopet won't get new stock till the old stock expires. This is normal in business.

The food, you should never defrost it completely. Only take out from the freezer for 30 minutes, scoop out what you need and return back. It will not spoil. I have been doing this and also selling it since October 2006, no complications. If you defrost completely and return back and keep doing this, of course it will spoil.

Hmmm.... how come people always mistaken that the egg yolk is bad? Do you know that all the nutrients and minerals are all in the egg yolk? The egg white is just protein. How would a baby chick survive in the egg if it doesn't have egg yolk? That is common sense that the yolk is nutritious. If the recipe says use whole egg, then use it. DO NOT change the recipe at all. Follow it, if not, you will miss something crucial out of the diet.
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Sep 11 2007, 07:13 PM)
Ai i already feed my sugar glider cat food for long time.... need to change for that.

So what i can do to replace the cat food? Egg? Meat ? besides mealworm.

Aiya always forget this 1, i read 1 website say that got 1 food can help sugar glider for calcium that is Tofu, but also can't over do it just limited for the diet.

I less take yogurt, is it outside got sell non-fat yogurt? If yes then will be nice, no need make my Ah Pit become fat fat girl.
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Yes, time to change.

Replace with protein. You still haven't answer me why you do not want to feed mealworm. It's a great source of protein.

NO TOFU. It's not good too.

No need non-fat yogurt, take any low fat will do.

QUOTE(vincent09 @ Sep 11 2007, 07:48 PM)
http://sandmanssugargliders.com/diet.html

Ok I found out Tofu quite not good for glider, will effect sugar glider reproductive systems.
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That basically tell you the content of Ca/Phophorus ration in food. But it does help you analyze the food you give them

Yeah, tofu no good.

QUOTE(broken_string @ Sep 11 2007, 10:59 PM)
but when i feed him mix, he will lick it but then it will produce pieces of sand like thingy and fall down from his mouth.

i was quite puzzle with that thingy, why after licking the mix it will produce those thing? when i press on it, it will become the mix back but juz a bit solid without water.
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Haha, new owners of suggies will always be mystified by the "pulp"... tongue.gif

It's normal, they'll always produce the pulp wink.gif

QUOTE(vincent09 @ Sep 12 2007, 12:50 AM)
...now Ah Pit got bad habit that every morning also want take 1 dry cat food from me.   

Hmm if get two of them just left the baby food research  XD. Really need to go supermarket look around. Oh yea honey also.
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Must change her bad habit then. It'll be difficult at first, but you must be persistant.

I think it's better to substitute honey with something else, maybe natural jam without added sugar or preservative... (Correct not Hun?)

QUOTE(vincent09 @ Sep 12 2007, 04:31 PM)
Today i just get my repti-cal and repti-vite, i have ask the pet shop is it will restock? They say the stock is new arrive, but the expire day will be 2008 apr and march, but they say after expire day also can use, is it true ???

Later go make some mix food for my Ah Pit.
Oh yea 1 thing that come up with my mind, everytime when we want to take a sponn of mix food, so we take out from the refrigerator, after that we put back after use, but is it nice for the mix food that put in take out from refrigerator everyday?, Those food like meat, fish or what else if doing like that the food will spoil.

If the mix food with egg, is it better that don't use the egg yolk? I feel like don't give will be better.
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Would you wanna use anything that is expired for yourself???

If you wouldn't, then don't use it for your suggie. It's a simple rule what.

Keep in freezer, the frozen part. If you take out and keep back before it completely melts back, it will not spoil. Same rule with ice-cream.

Egg, put everything lar, even the original recipe they put in with the egg shell! Why do you say the yolk is not good pulak?

Just a suggestion, if so mafan to do, just buy lar.

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Ah, yah.... honey is not really good if given too much. I actually prefer fruit jams.... the ones without added sugar and preservatives are quite expensive but make excellent licking treats hahahah.... good fruity sweeteners too for mix.

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