i tot u just changed? now wanna change again? swt

no ark!once i brought dino home then feed him orijen lu~
never change his kibbles before ler!
i bought 2.5kg pack,havent finish yet.

dunno wor might change to not so high protein de la..

umm...alright!
after finish his kibbles only decide how bah!

Yes, I think it really depends on the ingredients. Like when I feed BARF, it is super high in natural proteins, the only carbs I give are in the form of fresh veggie puree and a teaspoon of rolled oats each day. Now, I think where the dog would become fat comes from the fillers..... alot of dogfood contains corn, wheat, rice..... Previously I used brown rice as filler for BARF and man, I could see the difference as she put on weight. As I minus the rice, she became leaner.

One thing I managed to identify that causes tear stains in my Chelsea is Brewers Yeast. Evo doesn't have! I think Orijen has, and that is causing the tear stains, just like Back To Basics.

When choosing dog food, best is to ask from people who have tried the brand than listen to petshops. Sometimes some pet shops would recommend a brand that is not of high quality....

Orijen is good.... it depends on your dog. Some dogs on orijen would get alot of tear stains, like mine loh. Smelly tear stains.... some dogs would get rashes, like Pennywise's westies. So if your dog never show these signs, then ok loh.

neva hear b4... my groomer introduce to me one.. im from subang anyway... which kibble is good for the fur ya?

I am feeding my Westies Back to Basics pork flavor now. They love it so there's no regret in the 7kg bag I bought. Nevertheless, sometimes they still waste and have to be thrown away.

Has anyone seen these pet auto-feeder?
http://www.petsplace.com.my/automatic-food-feeder-p-847.html

http://www.petsplace.com.my/automatic-food-feeder-p-846.html

question here...how to store a 6kg bag of kibbles??must keep it all in a container??

Yes, get one of those cheap container... I bought mine for RM12, and believe it can hold a 10kg bag but it's not air-tight. It's good enough.

yeah u can get it from carefour

not air tight will not masuk angin one?
i only got 1 shih tzu, so i buy 3kg pack, got air tight packing.

which brand got 6kg pack air tight packing?

This post has been edited by joanalooidog: Jun 9 2008, 09:11 PM

If I am not mistaken, Evanger has it. Actually, I use to mind a lot about air-tight and all but then now that I bought this cheapo plastic container from AEON, I dont seem to mind anymore. The kibbles are still hard but somehow, I mix them with water most of the time so not being perfectly air-tight stopped bothering me.

If I give them to my westies, dry kibbles they wont touch. Buggers.

Here some information about One of the biggest health concerns facing dogs today is obesity.


One of the biggest health concerns facing dogs today is obesity. Obesity is responsible for creating and aggravating serious problems in dogs. The good news is obesity is preventable and (mostly) reversible. The bad news is that owners have to change their habits because a dog's weight problem is not his fault, it's his owner's!

Overweight dogs that have conditions such as arthritis, hip dysplasia and over-angulated joints, (pasterns, hocks and stifles) suffer greater pain, which causes a greatly reduced quality of life. Obesity in dogs can cause stroke, diabetes, shortness of breath and heart attacks. Obesity can aggravate epilepsy. Many people with epileptic dogs feed them a no or low fat diet and can more easily manage their condition this way. Obese dogs get pressure sores from supporting too much weight on their elbows and hocks when they are laying down (which is most of the time). Young overweight dogs are prone to ligament and tendon injury when playing too hard; for example -- going to the park once or twice a week to chase the tennis ball or Frisbee. Obese dogs cannot easily control their own movements and are extremely prone to injuries caused by twisting and turning sharply and jumping; blown cruciate ligaments (knees) are the most common. The worst condition caused by obesity is simply this, a greatly reduced life-span and unnecessary suffering.

Like humans, dogs should check with their doctors before beginning a weight loss program. A thorough veterinary examination, including a thyroid function test, will reveal whether a dog is suffering from any medical problems. (Many overweight dogs suffer from low (hypo) thyroid function. This can be remedied with an inexpensive prescription costing $10-$12 per month). An overweight dog may have certain conditions that would be exacerbated by exercise. Severely dysplastic dogs may need to diet to get the weight off before they can begin gentle exercise to gain muscle support on their hip joints.

All other dogs may be fed a reduced amount of a high quality diet and exercised more!! Dogs should be fed twice daily. Feeding the same amount once daily can actually cause a dog to gain weight due to the starving\stuffing effect. The metabolism of a dog with an empty stomach twenty three hours out of the day slows, and then his system processes the food too efficiently when he finally does eat. Food must always be measured, and you should feed by “eye” not by what it says on the dog food label. The feeding instructions for most dog foods only guarantee that the food will keep laboratory (bred) dogs alive in a cage. Trust what you see, not what you read. Feeding a dog by “eye” means that you should always see a clearly defined waist (imagine an aerial view of your wet dog) and, while you should not see ribs, they should be easily felt when you press your hands against his sides. You need to be aware of his daily activity and be flexible in adjusting his food slightly up or down as needed. If you've been sick a week and you've only been letting your dog out to potty, subtract a small handful of food out of each meal. If you're hiking with him in the mountains for a week, add a little extra to each meal.

Overweight dogs, like people, benefit from consistent sustained aerobic activity. Sporadic hard exercise like chasing sticks or balls should be reserved for fit dogs. Fat dogs benefit most from power walking. Start slowly with a good strong ten-minute walk on flat terrain. Add a minute a day until you're up to half an hour. Once you get to that level begin adding different terrain, little hills or long gentle grades. (Remember that in the summer or hot climates, the best time to exercise a dog is in the morning, before the ground heats up. Dogs’ unprotected feet and tummies are close to the ground and the dog overheats faster.) As your dog's tolerance for exercise increases (of which you must be the careful judge) and his weight decreases, you can increase the time out walking or the difficulty of the terrain.

Always feed the highest quality food you can afford. Good food costs more, but there are benefits. You will feed less due to its quality ingredients. Less food “in” means less poops “out” to pick up. Most importantly, you will have an overall healthier dog. Stay away from “lite” foods. Most contain ingredients to add bulk without adding calories. Your dog would never eat “cellulose” (wood pulp!) or peanut hulls, given the choice. Do not use “fat burning” additives.

The following is a tried and true weight reducing diet used for many different breeds. For ease of writing I'll assume the dog is an average size Lab cross.

Buy him a smaller bowl.
After a.m. exercise, feed him 1/2 cup adult dog food with one of the following mixed in: 1/2 cup green beans, 1/2 cup carrots, 1/2 cup pumpkin, 1/2 cup zucchini
Noon, feed him an apple or big carrot
Evening, repeat a.m. meal
Veggies should be fresh or frozen and never canned (too much salt). You can experiment to find what your dog likes best, any high fiber low calorie veggie will do. The trick is to keep the dog ‘full’ without giving him any extra calories. This will keep his metabolism up and help him burn more calories. This is what “Lite” dog food attempts to do, often by using peculiar ingredients (when was the last time anyone you knew went on the ‘sawdust diet’?) or resorting to carbohydrates which don't contain fat but will eventually turn into fat in an inactive dog. Once your dog has achieved his goal weight, you need to find his feeding/exercise balance point. If you find both you and your healthier, fitter dog enjoy the amount of exercise you're currently doing, you can gradually add dog food and subtract veggies until the dog ‘holds’ his weight. If you want to exercise your dog less, you may have to feed lesser amounts of dog food long term.

We all regret that our pets never live quite long enough. If we really love our dogs we must, as their custodians, do everything we can to make sure they are healthy and comfortable during the time that they have. The proof of our love needs to come in the form of care. A dog needs to have a lifetime of the best food, health care, exercise and grooming in exchange for his lifetime of uncomplaining unconditional love. It is our duty and his right.

Note About Exercise: Some school track surfaces are spongy for humans wearing shoes, but they are very abrasive for dog paws. If your dog jogs or walks on one with you, be careful and check his paws frequently for abrasions.

By Sue Averill

I juz bot a 3kg pack of Back to Basic today.....How u guyz think about it?Good?

This post has been edited by pitinn: Jun 11 2008, 11:23 PM

What flavor? I bought mine 3 weeks back, pork flavor and feed my dogs till today. I think it's quite alright.

The result will gets not in short term. Need time for it. Is not said well or not, it considers suitable for you dog or not,your dog will show the result later. All the dog food manufacturers spend millions of dollars researching dog's nutritional needs so that their products are nutritionally complete and balanced.


This post has been edited by clementcpteh: Jun 11 2008, 11:26 PM

nutro choice seemed to be out of stock at some places..what happened huh?

I buy chicken flavor.....Coz the shop ppl say normally they will like chichken more then pork so I get chicken lor....The only thing is it contains corn lorr.....But its ok for me.....I think it taste quite nice coz lots of ants come when I put in the bowl for very long......

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Added on June 11, 2008, 11:27 pmU r right.....juz wanna noe how's u all think about this kibbles...

This post has been edited by pitinn: Jun 11 2008, 11:27 PM

A lot of ants come? I put mine at 9am and leave it until they want to eat it. Most of the days, they eat immediately. Sometimes, they'd leave it. No ants. I buy pork because this is the ONLY brand of dog kibbles I know that's made of pork. So purposely buy lor. My friends said that I want to de-islam-ized my dogs (No offense to my muslim friends) cause we are from Klang la... the land of bah-kut-teh!!

I think corn a tiny bit is OK wan. Some canned dog food, those good quality wan like Dr Azmira canned food also got corn ma. Who is Azmira? Go google babes.

dunno why got ants o.....haha....Yalor....first time saw kibbles with pork flavor....Seems to be nice.....I think corn is ok.....My dog very choosy de....FIrst time eat this kibbles finish the whole bowl later dun want to eat d.....very bad habit....Now play with her and let her tired....See she will eat anot....If 20minits haven't finish den I take it away.....The shopkeeper says that I must learn a fact that DOGS WONT COMMIT SUCCIDE de.....LOL...And normally u feed how many meals....?I feed 3meals per day.....Izzit too many meals?