Well my thumb sound can be reproducible on certain speed and humps.

It is the rubber wrap, cut it if you want. For me I just use my hand to pull the 'leather' wrap one side so that it hardly touch the seat. I'm planning to add powder/talcum to it to smoothen it.

Next time get Nissan - 3 yrs later trade in and get Sylphy: longer than new Accord, CVT, and super more quiet.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: May 16 2008, 03:27 PM

For me 1.3L auto (MyVi) vs 1.5L auto (Vios), I think it is fuel saving enough. City drive is about the same (or even better) but Vios have better performance.

For highway, then Vios will be very good. I go Penang, when the fuel indicator just reach half-tank, my milleage is 375km. constant 120kmph.

Mine is new Vios but 2007. You want?

You driving styles & traffic condition lah. Though better oil helps...

Compare to the paint of older cars, new car paints really easy to get stone chip. Plus the paint clear-coat is too thin.

No changes. It is always like that. 1 manual + 1 service booklet.

Engine from driver seat - sure, especially going uphill, otherwise it is quite silent on flat road with 8pt volume on audio.

Fan - yes, when car is stationary and the fan turns, when moving the fan noise is not audible due to other noise being louder.

Brake pad - no sound at all.

Unlike Proton, it is definitely more quiet than Protons.

If you compare to Latio, Latio is way too quiet.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Jun 2 2008, 05:50 PM

First you have to understand that the engine/ecu of Vios is adaptive and self-adjust to driver preferences.
Second you have to know that those test drive car, usually are driven like turtle.
Thirdly, it takes the period of around at least half-a-tank of fuel used (rough guide) in order to feel the ECU start adapting your styles.
Fourthly, E/G/S - which one you test drove?


Honestly,
- 1.6L Gen2 Manual with high rev driving will anytime have better engine power.
- Campro idle is more quiet than 1NZFE.
- 1.6L Gen2 Auto is far behind in terms of FC & performance of 1NZFE Auto.


There's no perfect car. Why Vios? The stuff you complain in T.Vios, might score better in N.Latio and H.City.

Not really. Dumb ECU just do A/F mapping. Try driving MyVi for a month vs a Vios for a month using different driving style (pedal metal vs sissy).


Highway, I'm getting 16~18km/L.
City, I'm getting 12~14km/L.

FC/Milleage includes flooring the pedal occasionally after toll.

I'm now on 15,000km range. No mod. Using Toyota full synth (5000km interval change). Today I just change to Motul 300V.

Does your local town have up/down hill slope?

AFAIK, if it is so, the Vios will adapt to a more torquey/agressive response suitable for the terrain.
If always long distance highway, Vios will be 'lazy'. When you suddenly meet with hilly road, have to 'press' more.

In the end, it will averages out the inefficiency.

Aiyah... get Latio loh. More quiet than City & Vios.

Toyota SC is like fast food restaurant. Your car go in, they touch oil filter and change engine oil, and then the worker go chat and smoke. You wait there 2hr for nothing done besides oil change, and then your car ready. Charges you RM70+++ for rubbish service.

Check your service booklet, 1000km, 5000km, 10000km... all requires Throttle body cleaning. Toyota SC doesn't even touch it at all. You can check it with the finger prints/marks on dusty engine - dusty before enter Toyota SC, remain the same dusty engine after service.

My 15000km service outside already. RM20 labour charge. But use Motul 300V.


Btw, undercarriage sound? How does it sound? So far my Vios is ok on sound besides the ngik ngok of the rubber wrap on the seat belt female head.


Must sometimes rev rev lah. Your car not run in yet.

My 1st service I request change ATF as well.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Jun 10 2008, 02:48 PM

My 'rev rev' means reaching 6500rpm.


How I count my FC:

1. refill, auto stop, full tank
2. reset meter.
3. drive until left 1 quarter
4. refill, auto stop, full tank on the same kiosk/pump.

The gearing behavior also change too.

The most noticeable is when you often flat highway road, then once in a while going uphill - the car damn lazy to move up and have to press more.

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Added on June 11, 2008, 9:34 amSave more 1st before buying loh. If you rush and buy, later regret owning one. Just wait until you have enough d/p, then buy it.

Vios E - RM 79,200.00
Latio 1.6 Auto - RM87,945.50

Diff - RM8745.50

Assume you loan 7 yrs, int 2.3%, you are paying RM121 extra per month - for a 1.6L and a vastly more quiet ride.



This post has been edited by dstl1128: Jun 11 2008, 09:34 AM

I think the actual name is something like "Toyota ATF IV", is around RM140~RM150.


If smooth city driving (rarely got jam), 15km/L no problem.

Gotta check the tin can. ATF IV should be black color. Orange shoud be the WS ATF. Mine is orange. RM140+

RM140+ for the whole orange tin.