Just engine oil, oil filter change, and check brake fluid. Check ATF WS top up if necessary. It is just normal check.

I doubt they check your tires thread line and rotate for you, and I also have doubt whether they have 'clean' my air filter or not.

Unless they mean Super Ultra Advance Max Check... uhm, which doesn't exist anyway.

I think that's a bullshit from the sales agent. Refunding should be allowed unless sales & purchase agreement documents were signed.

All the while no remote trunk open since Vios FL 06, afaik.

You mean the alarm key have a button to release trunk?

I'm thinking let my gf use the ViosG, then I go get ViosJ manual. But not enough $$$ for now. So delay 1st.

Well, Vios is not design to whack around corners.


Anyway, facelift version might be coming faster due to recession - just to increase sales - probably IMO around 2009Q4 - just in time for a 2yr facelift/4yr new gen cycle.

Definitely partly got bashed by Honda City - like Core2 bash Athlon64.

Another reason is overall slower sales of car.

It is the seat belt rubber/plastic/fake-leather (I'm not sure what material it is) wrapping. It can happen on both front seat. Your only choice is:
Fold it up or,
tear it off or,
push it in front (i.e. lower it).

Since sliding the seat will temporary 'move' the seat belt (female head) position, the nyit nyat sound will come back after it naturally settled back on 'your' position.



Because of this simple noise, sometimes I'm planning to sell it off and get other car.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Feb 1 2009, 11:13 AM

Oh sorry. I forget to mention 'where' is that thing.

It is the (leather?) wrapping of the metal rod of the seat belt female head.


Sometimes pushing or moving the female head front or back solve the problem temporarily but instantly. If you want permanent, have to fold it up or tear it off.


This post has been edited by dstl1128: Feb 3 2009, 09:24 AM

Well the SC, said the front seat has no problem and they had done everything they could, duh!

Anyway it is not the seats that are making the noise - noob (or lazy) SC.

It will learn your driving behavior and sets itself between more aggressive or more lazy.


Anyway I'm getting 320km half tank for recent P.Penang trip, down from previous 375km half tank. And I drove slower than previously. Weird.

Well for me the reverse is true, previous trip was on & off on the pedal and it has better milleage. While the recent one I'm having constant pressure on the pedal.


Well, the speed is
90~110km/h (current trip) vs
110~160km/h with mostly 120~130km/h (previous trip) and previous trip has better milleage.

I'm not using the fuel meter for measurement. I measure (and compare) it by full-tank refuel. My "half-tank" is just a verbal compare for being roughly half-tank in real measurement.
I've calculated, the previous trip I'm having 18km/L, while 16km/L for this current trip.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Feb 16 2009, 05:01 PM

I already explained my driving style. The recent one is constant pressure & constant speed. I do it purposely to test FC hoping to get better mileage than before but... disappointed.

WTH forced myself to limit the speed... that makes the whole journey even more boring and very very sleepy.


p/s: Same load. And both situation I serviced the car before the long journey and also drive @ 2~3am.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Feb 17 2009, 08:43 AM

Manual ViosJ?

1. You left leg probably like to float on the clutch pedal, just 2 months and clutch engage too deep?

2. Well what kind of choke do you mean? For manual car, a sudden release of accelerator pedal always 'shock' the car a little.

3. What kind of noise? I only have noise @ front is when I *fly* over humps.

4. ... what is jump cable?

5. Side arm rest decolour? Black really can decolour? Unless you sweat like hell everyday & your sweaty arm always rest on it.


13km/L city/crazy driving is reasonable.



p/s: When I got my car I rev hard too.

I'm using ViosG (1 of very first batch of dugong). My milleage started with 11km/L, then gradually hover on between 13km/L ~ 14km/L for city driving, meanwhile highway is around 16km/L~18km/L - tested with 3 adult passenger and fully filled trunk (yes those aunty/uncle have lots of luggages when back kampung ). I'm using full synth engine oil btw.

When I got my car after 2nd refuel I rev hard, reaching 6.5krpm for few times.


I've also notice for those using semi-synth or full-synth, when reaching around 8k km milleage (10k km per oil change), the FC starts to get slightly lower.


1. Hmm... can't say much since I have no experience on using ViosJ manual besides changing gear in the showroom.

2. The car is drive-by-wire and is adaptive. Probably you drive tamely all the while and reach 140km/h occasionally. Try driving aggressively, the response is different.

3. I'm quite rough of a driver (driving relatively fast thru uneven road), so far the car haven't exhibit noise. Rear absorber noise (or is it?) when the car is parking on the slope with the rear @ flat roat and the front @ high slope & I jump inside the car - I got the same kind of noise with MyVi as well in the same situation.

If you are saying something is knocking something in the cabin when going through uneven road, you might have the same problem that some wiring/socket thing behind the centre console is knocking the plastic.

4. Probably you are the unlucky one. Ask for replacement. Shouldn't break that fast.

5. No comment. Weird though. Claim it.

The manual also says:
- don't warm up your car - just start & drive smoothly until the 'Cool temp' went off. But many people still did it.
- rotate tires every 10,000km (or 5000km I can't remember the figure)

For 85k with USB input, maybe Honda City??

People here in LYN mostly are Honda and Proton fanboy. Occasionally you will meet few *super* Toyota fanboy out of no where.

Fanboy aside, objectively, what are you going to compare?
- FC: 13~14km/L for city drive, 16~18km/L for highway drive. Brochure says it has avg 15.xxkm/L - no where you could achieve that if you whole time in city drive however, highway drive will get much better than that.
- Handling: Vios is stable & comfort enough, but not good with cornering @ 100km/h.
- Gadget: ViosJ is the roti-kosong of car. Good if those want to mod steering wheel & ICE. Rear seat is not foldable too. Super basic reliable car moving from A to B.
- Design: This is subjective. This you depend on yourself. Well, my round of friends says Persona, BLM and new City are fugly but they also say Gen2 is damn looking good. And just little of them don't like the new Vios look while most of my friend is Proton owner.


1. No idea. Vios E/G/S fog lamp on/off switch is integrated on the main lamp switch. J doesn't have that unless you add external switch below the right aircond vent.
2. Yes. Price=no idea.
3. No diff. 4AT gated shift.
4. With enough $$$, yes you can mod drum to disc. But what for? You are not going to do ultra-late-braking skill every now & then.
5. .... no idea...
6. All color available - while, grayish blue, gold, silver, black.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Feb 23 2009, 03:28 PM

Mine auto too, G spec, and getting the similar FC range for city drive.