11 am Zoom interview. 25 years old, only 18 months work experience.
It was me, my sales manager since he is hiring, and the Candidate(jobless for 10 months)
The position is Junior sales technician.

After a brief introduction, SM stated the offer RM 2950 + com and allowance. here goes the heat

Candidate: Excuse me? I thought you advertised salary from 2400-3200. Why not 3200?
S.M.: We are evaluating based on work experience, you do not have any experience in the technical engineering industry. Though you have experience in sales talk we want to give you the high side salary of the range we advertised
Candidate: What High side? This is very misleading, I can report you, you know.
S.M.: Ha ha, I think you need to understand the situation here.
Candidate: There is no situation, you advertised the salary, I should be expecting 3200.
S.M.: ...
Candidate: I work grab driver even better salary than you dumb company. Good luck.

End Zoom.

This post has been edited by Red_rustyjelly: Jul 5 2021, 02:23 PM

What so heated?

Willing buyer, willing seller.

Candidate don't know what is range?

that's your typical gen z attitude

if you think interviewing them is hard, try mentoring/working with them

SM stated the offer RM 2950 + com and allowance

with optimum sales how much com can he get?

Dodged a bullet

1.5years of working experience demands so much?

go fly kite la.

Padan mukak you try to lowball the candidate

TS in that interview as a?

Sei sohai, I work Grab food better pay !

You're going to encounter more like this because simply, younger generations are more vocal and won't take shit from employers who're exploitative.

Red flag number one. Good luck working with him if decide to hire him.

~3k still dont want?

Better say 2.4k base
If got bonus performance, intel boost to 3.2k lah...

mcm HR

How much he can rake in a month include commission? His grab car earn more than basic lolol

luckily candidate failed.. even if he successful, he won't last a month with that attitude.

In my case during the interview, we didn't even discuss the salary...End up, position given higher and salary slightly higher than my expectations

This post has been edited by nicole_4ever: Jul 5 2021, 02:28 PM

lol. entitled brat.

I'd be laughing at his face right on the spot.

Butthurt

nego failed, no deal no problem.

just that his nego tactic probably won't benefit him too much in the future

OTAK KAT LUTUT. better dont hire

Bodo chinaman company detected, found candidates, low ball then created tered coz candidate give middle finger.

U already put there rm3200. At least say if he pass probation can get another pay rise la.

2950 for just "sales talk" in a technical field??

ur sales manager retarded?

u also sohai lah... dont put range for salary lah.. start with base rm2.4k first and add ons will be depending on experience and at the discretion of Employer...

if i were the applicant i also ask for the max range lo.. sohai really this type of HR

What is this fella salary request in the application form?

Ive got 2 intern yearly ...

What is the job scope of sales technician..

hahah, true. but grab car u stop working for that day u don't get pay for that day.

Well
If he said work grab better then he'll work grab lor
Maybe he making 3k for grab. Who knows.
But srsly
3k ok la in current shit economy for 18 mo work exp
200 linggit diff i also can find other side income lol

Drive Grab better. Damn woke.

gen z, actual experience 3-4 years. talk like 10 + years, want school seniors lagi

ask him report first then go do grab yo

you shud cukur dia tk masuk your com

i know its another topic but, Malaysian salary for those fresh grad etc are really low
or i should say malaysian salaries are really low comparing to other countriess

This candidate got balls anyway

lel
have you ever done hiring before???
If not, just learn from other ppl experience 1st.
By the time you kena batang hidung sendiri.....don't laugh

Normal lo If sale negotiate fail what to do?

Most company only advertise + comisison . Ended up after years of sales commission was not paid.

lmao reasons like this are why we remain low income nation, keep paying low celeri je la then

on the interviewer's side, shitty attitude in negotiation for candidate. if nego properly can jalan, but go diu people pulak

your next step is to ask why

Means he is not desperate for the job.

This ppl can be boss one day... Got guts.

To be fair, you must offer (as basic salary) of what you published.

Let say RM2400~RM3200
RM2400 should be the basic salary from...to anything add up till RM3200.

Those employer who are offering basic salary RM800 then OT bonus and shit which is sometimes have and something not, and your total RM2400 will be a scam.

U have my sympathy.

lucky didn't hire or else more headache.

Wah this candidate so attitude problem

If he don't like the offer just be professional and say no

No need to bring up his so called grab car high pay

I don't think ts boss is being unreasonable

Willing buyer willing seller

Don't like the deal just walk out

3.2K a lot nowadays? that should be minimum fresh grad salary

i am the sales's manager's leader. cause he is forming his own team. So I am just guiding him.

Some of the interview I attended don't even discuss the salary. Got offer even higher than the range they advertised after the interview.

So many ktards defending the candidate, if it was me, jobless for 10 months I'll take it rather than no money.

But with that kind of attitude, he'll probably be gone less than a month.

This post has been edited by Carlo J: Jul 5 2021, 02:40 PM

Ko belum kena fresh grad mau $5k...siap ada presentation to justify sbb dpt degree obersee boleh bantu syarikat ke arah standard obersee...disampong itu, bawak kreta eropah, mahu gaya hidup selesa work life balance...

/topkek!

lol 3k job but dont want

he forgot that company need to pay his epf at 13%
additionally some medical benefit and company group insurance
add up it more than 3k
additionally the longer in jobless period (he going to loss competitive value compare to ppl who jump ship)
Alot of expert already warn not to indulge into gig economy if you want a comeback into corporate world

congrats, at least he showed attitude before joining, some show their true faces only after joined

thats the thing, no?

the candidate ed said this lel "I work grab driver even better salary than you dumb company. Good luck."

assuming he walks the talk, that means he has a bigger income than working office job

no idea, my starting pay 8years ago was 2.3k.
baru managed to get 3.3k after 3years.

cukur now got 5 digits.

no flip table? i haz sadding

ok what, ada tunjuk effort. u bagi ke x lain cite la

ada yg main mintak, cakap benda mahal. benda mahal dan bagi u gaji tinggi takde kena mengena

he is not bluffing on the grab job......just saying

in ads 2400-3200

in interview 2950

also, the guy sucks at nego

There is a difference between smart vocal and loud shit.

then better take no basic and FULL commission
if you want big money

i would tell that fella go drive your grab now...

My fren work as foodpanda rider. Last time office pay 4k++ now earning 6-7k. Hahahahaha

knowing the difference is what will net u the high salary vs a laugh

Lol, you mean stupid people who cannot even upsell themself from RM2950 to RM3200?
Sales person konon

Stupiak candidate doesn't know the situation

Let him work as grab

people underestimate
'do what you like to do, the result (big money) will come its just matter of time'

If he dont enjoy hustling, thats not living, but expecting.

already mentioned he dont have experience by the employer

ask him back why not 2400

small company ??

Heated ?? mana ada ..Masak air panas pun belum tahap boiling lagi.

Salary ciput how to drive Honda to impress amoi/awek?

well, consider it a success that you've managed to find out the true colors during the interview process

WTF IS SALES TECHINICIAN??

Pls continue to be grab driver.

sampah misleading tered.

heated 404.

alrdy mentioned 2400-3200 salary RANGE

TS is the type kaki complain

You will make more enemies and kena belakang mari someday

your offer is pathetic, still dare to post here, just remove the post.

think positively.
both parties dodged a bullet.

Cukur no need pay rm2950 every month to him? Take it positively, maybe that is the way he want to ffk you for other better offer lulz

Yup...A++ for effort...but erti kata lain, ckp je panai buat tatau lagi...

That’s okay lah. My first job : Advertised as RM3000. Offer letter time - RM2500 + RM 300 parking allowance + RM200 phone allowance.

I hardly had to use my phone as I can use their office phones to call and parking was like RM2 a day.

Worst part is the allowance need to put in claims. I diam diam accept cos its my first job

I have to say, both employer and candidate got lucky. This is a pure mis-match of culture.
(btw, I am basing this on a one sided story and obviously the employer is only willing to extend offer after many considerations)

From candidate point of view, it is a insult to him somehow that this firm didn't even try to compensate him properly when he already matches the requirement.

From employer point of view, the employer thinks he can take advantage of the fact that the candidate is jobless.

Let me ask the employer: just for a difference of 250 rm, is it worth your time and effort to look again?

Grab might earn more now but at they can be replace easily by others.

It’s important to gain skills that hard to be replaced

He got salesman attitude.

cool setori

Well said, i think it’s an unhealthy culture to ask candidate to reduce their compensation.

be honest.. employers always put salary range XXXX to XXXX on their job ads, but never ever gave the highest salary point from that range to even the most promising candidate.. always either lowball or just in the middle of the range, no matter how much u nego with them

i haz sad..coz thats my gaji

Well, the Sales Manager can continue working 2 jobs now.

My first job only 2.6...cabut after two years. Can only claim OTmeals and taxi iinm.

0-9999 is a range too

nvm , lucky no hire him. let him be grab. grab needs him. if grab pay better why waste time interview.

Bodoh class 1 for candidate.

If he is a good salesman he would have convinced the manager to pay 5k instead.

Interview is selling yourself

Here I am, trying my best to convince the hiring person why they should hire me, man I wish I was young again, sooo high demand with higher salary pay even due to the circumstances.

A glorified title salesman 🤣

ya.

boomer mentality can go dai

More like a cheapskate company hiring a person to do 2 kind of jobs for salary less than 3k