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post Sep 26 2007, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Sep 26 2007, 08:44 PM)
wow.. nice mod.. BTW, why many people choose MSI 8800 than XFX 8800..? i see strongbaby thread every1 choose MSI 8800GTS wor..??
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cheaper and ppl are getting conned with the OC tag

even in cycom it happens

XFX 1090
ASUS 1140
MSI - 1090 OC version

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Sep 26 2007, 10:19 PM)
No ma.. for 8800GTS 320mb ar..

XFX - rm888
MSI - RM900..

people all get MSI wor.. i wan know if theres a specific reason behind this.. laugh.gif
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wei. this is price from local distro to the retailers

all the other prices.. up to u...
when rma.. dont come b****ing in the trade dispute forum.


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QUOTE(ianho @ Sep 26 2007, 10:48 PM)
I reckon they're all the same. Just dont buy the OC versions to be safe. Unless the OC versions come with special HSF.
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Totally agree..

and he is talking like for 8800gts.. i suppose the ACS3
that would be the only one i would actually pay for it the price was reasonable.. but unfortunately it aint

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QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Sep 27 2007, 03:36 AM)
@uncle,
the chips dimension same as C2D IHS dimension?

the GTX was build under 65nm tech or still 90nm?

iirc, GTX have triple transistor count compare to C2D.
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bigger
more like the athlons

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post Sep 27 2007, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(tycheah_7 @ Sep 27 2007, 12:50 PM)
i've also paid for xfx8800 gts... a good buy ? i hope so
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depends..
on GPu revision...

as far as i know after talking to xfx contact directly

the A2 revision .. they are getting rid of some of their older stocks are cheaper
than the A3 revision.

so its a gamble on what ure going to get... but then.. if ure not so much to overclocking.. hell just get it..

also u need to check the warranty. As far as i know asia is limited to a 2 year warranty via distributor.

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Hmm i hope the ppl who buy will note down the revision no..


how just use riva tuner, go to target adapter, customize, graphic systems info

in the report look at nvidia extended information

the revision should be there..

post it..

ty

FOR MSI 8800gts and XFX 8800GTs..post screen shots...

others are welcome also .. please do so..
then can see the oc ability of the current batch..

would be better if u can even tell me GPU batch no but u have to remove the HSF to do that.


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post Sep 28 2007, 05:48 AM

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revision A2 bro.... have u tried clocking it..
as far as i have tried it has problem going to past 1566 shader clock..

revision A3 is similar to the ultra but with less stream procs..

just finished with the HR03 plus just now and taking pics.. later need to add watermark.
will be posting the shot of the GPU heatsink with the batch no and revision.
so far HR03+FM123... ( kekek even tested two of fm123...geee will post that later)
temps on single fan - Idle 42/ Load 56... on no artifact 24/7 guaranteed
702/1728/2160
revision A3... rocks..

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need to AS5 to sink in a bit...then will compare with MX2.

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Sep 28 2007, 06:53 PM)
GTX is cheaper now... but over rm1k still too much for me.. tongue.gif
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uik..
werent u the guy who was thinking for getting two 8800gts..

just got an msi card to test

its A2 also..
i think all the msi cards are a2.. hence the cheap pricing

also for buyers of xfx 8800gts from strong baby please state the version no on the box..

would help future buyers..


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hyde'fk

please show ure graphic system monitoring report
and please state the purchase date

would like to see when the transition to A3 happened.
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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Sep 29 2007, 01:10 PM)
Ah, I missed that part. Thanks man. biggrin.gif
Sure, wait till I get back home from work first.
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ok bro..

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 29 2007, 03:41 PM)
Ok, tested for almost 2 hours with ATItool. No artifacts but core temp shot up to 83'c....  sweat.gif Hot day today.....

Going to test with games later on....

Max I could get for my card is 648/1620/972mhz...... Not as high as some forumers card....  smile.gif

Shader clock at 1674 mhz will cause artifacts.......

Edit : Hmmmm.... anybody tried underclocking the shader clock? Wonder how low it can go.....  hmm.gif
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wei bro.. was asking for the revision no too..
didnt have to show the ati tool part...

its on riva tuner next to the monitoring buttong.. graphic diagnostic report..

curious as to what evga superclocked revisions are running.

ps the core temps are ok.. its being loaded...
somore idle around 67.

if this was the gtx/ultra it would be at 93-94 ...

and take note the 680 mobo they mentioned is with MCP55XE

striker extreme has this with the a1

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QUOTE(ianho @ Sep 29 2007, 08:35 PM)
Well, I'm very sure that if the rumour proves to be true, Thermalright will be hard at work designing a low profile 2 slot solution cooler. Then shud be able to use all 3 cards with Thermalrights again.
Anyway, after installing Rivatuner 2.05 today, with the 3 sliders, my hands got really itchy to push my system a lil bit more. Still sum left in the rig but I'm happy enuf with the current score now.  18044 marks in 3DM06.  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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down clocked the shader clock???
ish ish ish



QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 29 2007, 10:42 PM)
Yeah, I saw your post in the 3Dmark database. Nice.  smile.gif

Was actually gonna ask you why you didn't OC the shaders too.... could have gone higher than that...  nod.gif

Anyway, I just finished testing my 8800 GTS 640mb at 648/1620/972mhz. 11452 marks in 3Dmark06.....  laugh.gif
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nice

ian had one the first batches of the gtx... so a bit difficult to stabalize.. my bet..either that or he didnt know that at 648 his shader default is 1512

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QUOTE(ianho @ Sep 30 2007, 02:19 AM)
LOLZ!  I dunno what? OC? LOLZ!
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no i meant that u downed ure shader ratio...

its suppose to be 1512... from the looks of it..

also could be ure trying to copy evga 8800gts acs3 ko

OC just takes one program.. and a hit a button...
if it crash ok..
if it didnt not ok...


whats the magic??

MAX OC 24/7 different story.. need to flash bios..


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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 30 2007, 07:13 AM)
That's ok. Your CPU is the bottle-neck. Compare with mine on 3Dmarks06 at stock GPU settings but CPU OC to 3.5Ghz:

Sm2.0 : 3970
HDR/sm3.0 : 3782
CPU : 3020

Total : 9295
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eh i think both also bottleneck

compared to mine at 3ghz

sm2.0 : 5502
sm3.0 : 5384
cpu : 2661

3dmark06 score = 11763

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QUOTE(PGV3910 @ Sep 30 2007, 03:16 PM)
single or sli bro?
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 30 2007, 05:01 PM)
Waaaiiitt a second. That can't be the scores for a stock 8800 GTS! My results was for stock settings......  smile.gif

And how come your CPU score lower? What CPU is that?  hmm.gif
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x6800@333x9
XFX 8800gts 320mb +HR03+FM123 (avatar) single overclocked....48 hours no artifacts ati tools ( driver overclocking.. will be flashing it later and trying my best to hit 12k...)
ddr2 pC2-6400 cl4@667 CL5

11500 score for
X6800@9x333
XFX 8800gts Stock cooler Single Overclocked... 24/7 no artifacts no artifacts ati tools. (bios flahed and some mem timings adjustments)
ddr pc2-6400 @ 667 CL5

dud ure cpu at 3ghz... the gpu pulak bottleneck.. so no point overclocking your cpu so high...

programs running on the background.. utorrent downloading, antivirus.. etc

so the true potential of this cards is amazing

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 30 2007, 06:44 PM)
I see. Even with max OC on my GC (stock cooling), couldn't reach those scores for SM2.0 and HDR/sm3.0.

Did you compare to see how much more headroom you can OC (core/mem) if you use the HR03 compared to stock heatsinks? Tempted to get the HR03. However, if the OC is only slightly more, then not really worth it (for me)....

No la, my rig is OC at 3.5Ghz for folding.... To me, 3.5Ghz is the sweetspot in terms of core temperature, vcore and CPU fan noise.....  smile.gif
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okay...

its like this the headroom part...

u need to check the shader/core/ram.. for artifacts...
y?? cause u will know when u hit a heat wall , and ure vgpu wall ( ususally total crash of window.. hang etc...) , vram ( usually windows will get like lines.. becarefull if not bye bye graphic card)

then only u can test the overclocking

for the stocking cooling.. it was like at the border of the heat wall.. i adjusted the bios mem timings a bit to a looser one ( not advisable unless u know what ure doing)
and then it was ok...

but for A2 so far.. i think the best u can get is around 621/1566/999 for 24/7 no artifact running and if u cannot hit this i would say u hit a heat wall ...

with the HR03.. u should be able to run at 648/1620/1053.. no probs.. but again all this depends on ure casing cooling etc... cable management.. ure mobo temps.. ure cpu temps..
casing temps...

like mine now after running it for 48 hours..with sometimes no fan running in the room... the max i saw was 61C. and at night around 56C. during load

so far it looks like i hit the limit for the vgpu// anything more i need to volt mod.

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well for the HR03 plus and whats your overclock limit etc
and the difference it makes

y not asked the guy who said this..

"LOLZ! I dunno what? OC? LOLZ!"

he can shed a light on the topic.. since he is the rep for thermalright..
also can state the reason for underclocking the shader ratio..

kekekek
a 200 product to only to underclock the shader ratio ..
and u can achieve those clocks with stock cooling...

kekek heck i had to go to the store and buy one...tongue.gif

errr still looking for a second OCeble GTX to show the total potential of one gtx with HR03 and doing sli.....kekeke the score is just INSANE...

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QUOTE(HaHaNoCluE @ Oct 2 2007, 02:59 AM)
this is really crazy... 18044??? congrats...
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shader score and oc on gc so low.. embarrassment for spending RM250 on the HR03 plus and a decent fan...kekeke... LOLZ...

might as well use stock cooler and run the old riva tuner 2.03 then his itchy hand wouldnt have touch the shader clocks and actually down clocked the ratio....LOLZ...

score would have been way higher LOLZ...

if VT-Ten would have put a Quad proc in his benchies and ran at 3.6ghz would have beaten this LOLZ.

2 8800gtx with HR03 plus getting beat by 2 8800gts stock cooling...LOLZ


Goes something like this

Q6600 with XIGmatek HTC 12 something Price RM1000
P5n32eSLi Price 700
2 x XFX 8800gts price 2100 stocking cooling

Beating ianho benchmark with huge ass coolers and a downclocked gtx that cost by atleast RM3500 more... PRICELESS.

tongue.gif LOLZ

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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Oct 2 2007, 11:18 PM)
i'm so sorry to interupt here... but do quad core really make a diff in 3dmark06...?
sorry but i might juz be 2 dumb to know... rclxub.gif
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yes it does... a lot...

so far as i know only one game i have seen use the other 2 cores around 30-40 percent..

that would be lost planet.. the rest nope..

the crytek engine supposedly uses it too...


geee halo 3 rocks...

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QUOTE(PGV3910 @ Oct 3 2007, 04:02 AM)
ooo..so even though power gc,if proc no power useless lerr..
since i see that,8800gts no much big different ler wif my previous 7800gtx. hmm.gif
play r6 vegas oso lagging..even fps can drop to 15!! shocking.gif
im noob loo
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no dude its ure proc
Clock to atleast 3ghz
and u will see a whole lot of difference with the 7800gtx.
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Oct 3 2007, 09:25 AM)
i clock my cpu till 3ghz also lag sometimes...
even during install say mininum lol.. that game is cpu hunger..
even using 7600gt n 8600gt still same.. accept 8600gt can enhance more on eye candies..
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8600gt.. hmm
u need to overclock the GPu to atleast 726
shader around 1620 - 1728
mem around 2000 - 2100

and then u need to oc ure Proc to atleast to 3.2-3.4

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