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 Engineer credit cards billed to the tune of RM40k

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cringe
post Jun 24 2021, 06:44 AM

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Jun 24 2021, 01:03 AM)
I'm using CIMB Debit Card today amounting USD 750 today at e-learning portal ... no OTP required liao.. gila la ini macam
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You want to be safe, apply for Prepaid Card.

Example is Big Pay and MAE debit card by Maybank. Both of these cards are prepaid card.

Other alternative if you have additional bank account debit card that u rarely used, just transfer some of the specific amount before making online transaction.


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post Jun 24 2021, 07:09 AM

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thats y i put money in efd....

just to park there

This post has been edited by pundi: Jun 24 2021, 07:09 AM
Irzani
post Jun 24 2021, 07:17 AM

Just you know why .. why u and i ...
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QUOTE(cringe @ Jun 24 2021, 06:44 AM)
You want to be safe, apply for Prepaid Card.

Example is Big Pay and MAE debit card by Maybank. Both of these cards are prepaid card.

Other alternative if you have additional bank account debit card that u rarely used, just transfer some of the specific amount before making online transaction.
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Thank you for the tips. thumbsup.gif
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post Jun 24 2021, 07:19 AM

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I really have how lazada app forces you to save card when you check out and they dont require OTP for subsequent charges on saved cards.

like wtf man.


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post Jun 24 2021, 07:41 AM

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after hearing so many lies from people, i hard to believe this engineer story.
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post Jun 24 2021, 07:48 AM

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His case is not about no otp. If it is genuine fraud, it is about someone register his card and otp to fraud otp number.
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post Jun 24 2021, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(bunyip @ Jun 24 2021, 01:26 AM)
so no more than rm250 to pay for unauthorised transaction?
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I don't know how this works
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post Jun 24 2021, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(sitescope @ Jun 23 2021, 11:15 PM)
Certain online shoping not require otp once u saved the cc info
U can try aliexpress
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i remember somethign like that, not sure shopee or lazada, after that my credit card got hack...
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post Jun 24 2021, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Jun 23 2021, 11:08 PM)
the problem is it has already elapsed for so long only he noticed. he should make a police report for credit card fraud, under the commercial crimes department.

had my CC cloned once more than 10 years ago, good thing got notifications, so managed to cancel the card and make dispute claims. the cibai thing is the bank would use small technical errors (didn't file dispute in time) to make it seems like your fault and make you pay for the fraudulent transaction.
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Of course, Bank is not going to pay their mistake... brows.gif
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post Jun 24 2021, 08:34 AM

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If he reports it to the bank punctually, he is only liable for RM150.

Or at least it sued to be that.


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15 Liability for unauthorised transactions
S 15.1 An issuer shall provide an effective and convenient means including having a
dedicated contact number by which a cardholder can notify the issuer of any
lost, stolen or unauthorised use of his credit cards. The issuer shall also
implement procedures for acknowledging receipt and verification of the
notification of the lost, stolen or unauthorised use of the credit card.
S 15.2 An issuer shall not hold a cardholder liable for card-present unauthorised
transactions which require PIN verification, unless the issuer can prove that the
cardholder has:
(a) acted fraudulently;
(b) delayed in notifying the issuer as soon as reasonably practicable after
having discovered the loss or unauthorised use of the credit card;
© voluntarily disclosed the PIN to another person; or
(d) recorded the PIN on the credit card, or on anything kept in close proximity
with the credit card, and could be lost or stolen with the card.
S 15.3 An issuer shall not hold a cardholder liable for card-present unauthorised
transactions which require signature verification or the use of a contactless
card, unless the issuer can prove that the cardholder has:
(a) acted fraudulently;
(b) delayed in notifying the issuer as soon as reasonably practicable after
having discovered the loss or unauthorised use of the credit card;
© left the credit card or an item containing the card unattended, in places
visible and accessible to others, except at the cardholder’s place of
residence. However, a cardholder is expected to exercise due care in
safeguarding the credit card even at the cardholder’s place of residence;
or
(d) voluntarily allowed another person to use the credit card.
Credit Card 9 of 25
Issued on: 2 July 2019
S 15.4 An issuer must ensure that appropriate investigations are carried out on all
unauthorised transactions. Any decision to pass on liability for unauthorised
transactions must be supported by sufficient evidence to prove that one of the
conditions specified in paragraphs 15.2 or 15.3 as the case maybe, has been
met.
S 15.5 An issuer shall have clear processes in place to register any notification of lost,
stolen or unauthorised use of a credit card and take immediate action upon
notification by a cardholder, to prevent further use of the credit card. A
cardholder shall not be held liable for any unauthorised transactions charged to
the credit card after the cardholder has notified the issuer verbally or in writing
of the lost, stolen or unauthorised use of the credit card.
S 15.6 An issuer shall not hold a cardholder liable for losses incurred if the cause of the
losses is due to any of the following:
(a) failure of the issuer to send reminders to the cardholder as per the
requirements in paragraphs 17.10 and 18.7(a);
(b) failure of the issuer to provide customer hotlines which are operational at
all times for a cardholder to notify the issuer of any lost, stolen or
unauthorised use of the credit card;
© a technical breakdown or other deficiency in the issuer’s systems or
equipment;
(d) weaknesses or vulnerability in security features and controls adopted by
the issuer;
(e) a transaction that involved the use of a forged credit card;
(f) for transactions requiring PIN verification, a transaction that occurred
before the cardholder receives the PIN or changes the default PIN for the
first time;
(g) fraudulent or negligent conduct of the employees or agents of the issuer
or merchants; or
(h) a transaction, excluding a recurring transaction, that occurred after the
cardholder has notified the issuer of the lost, stolen or unauthorised use
of the credit card.
https://www.bnm.gov.my/documents/20124/9380...Credit+Card.pdf


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post Jun 24 2021, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Jun 24 2021, 07:41 AM)
after hearing so many lies from people, i hard to believe this engineer story.
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is this the same guy who has been nabbed yesterday. a uk graduate with fake mycards and claiming somedoby else stole his identity for online shopping.?
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post Jun 24 2021, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(cringe @ Jun 24 2021, 06:44 AM)
You want to be safe, apply for Prepaid Card.

Example is Big Pay and MAE debit card by Maybank. Both of these cards are prepaid card.

Other alternative if you have additional bank account debit card that u rarely used, just transfer some of the specific amount before making online transaction.
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but not to buy airline ticket as customer will not be entitled for insurance coverage if travel overseas. unless you add on travel insurance purchase upon the ticket payment using the debit card.
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post Jun 24 2021, 08:46 AM

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post Jun 24 2021, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(tongsanfish @ Jun 23 2021, 11:00 PM)
is u got saved ur cc on shopee, it wont ask for otp for topup.. really gila that one
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Is call recurring. I as the one who created recurring section for Shopee Pay. I sendiri dun dare use it. Haha. Cause I dono how Shopee store my card details. It is masked or not? If not their Engineer can login into DB and see my clear cardpan and CVV.

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post Jun 24 2021, 08:48 AM

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*binds CC info to Shopee*
*Shopee account kena hacked*
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post Jun 24 2021, 08:51 AM

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PM drillz.. Owaii
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post Jun 24 2021, 08:58 AM

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that's why too much ewallet link to CC is bad idea

when online first started memang everyone careful to not give out CC information freely but now become.norm put into everywhere

is just waiting to happen one big data leak then pok kai ham ka chan
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post Jun 24 2021, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(cringe @ Jun 24 2021, 06:44 AM)
You want to be safe, apply for Prepaid Card.

Example is Big Pay and MAE debit card by Maybank. Both of these cards are prepaid card.

Other alternative if you have additional bank account debit card that u rarely used, just transfer some of the specific amount before making online transaction.
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I got MPay virtual credit card for online purchases
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post Jun 24 2021, 09:01 AM

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tipu je tu
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post Jun 24 2021, 09:06 AM

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anyone guess who is this guy???? small world man.. its my friend... yesterday was on the phone with him...

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