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post Jun 16 2021, 06:50 PM, updated 5y ago

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Almost every hour pulling chair

I got many video evidence of this idiot lady n her family pulling chair

Yet the stupid MO manager still sitting on it

What can I do?


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post Jun 16 2021, 06:55 PM

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sponsor them chair slider, put under the chair feets, case solved
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post Jun 16 2021, 06:59 PM

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Sponsor them the chair stockings like these - https://shopee.com.my/Socks-Furniture-Pure-...9553.1475982756

cheap cheap only. upsell them the benefits of less noise, and protect their floor from scratches laugh.gif
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post Jun 16 2021, 07:04 PM

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Better to speak directly to your neighbor aye?
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post Jun 16 2021, 07:08 PM

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Burn the entire building
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post Jun 16 2021, 07:21 PM

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if u got enough money, sound proof your ceiling.
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post Jun 16 2021, 07:51 PM

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You sure neighbor pulled chairs? Or something else
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post Jun 16 2021, 07:55 PM

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I am very curious how u get video of them pulling the chair...LOL
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Sometimes not chair, but water hammer sound in the water pipe.
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post Jun 16 2021, 08:14 PM

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later go upstair but discover no one living in the upstair unit


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QUOTE(maxsteel @ Jun 16 2021, 08:05 PM)
Sometimes not chair, but water hammer sound in the water pipe.
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It is never chairs or any furnitures for that matter.
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post Jun 16 2021, 08:35 PM

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I understand is difficult to tolerate noisy neighours.

If you focus your mind on other nice things instead of 'looking' for noise to hear, you be less stressful.

As time passes, you will tolerate the noise and accept the fact that you cant change your neighbour.

If what I suggested cannot work, then moving out is your only solution.

If your MO cannot help, I wonder how can we forumers help. The replied are merely copy and paste from your previous or others threads.

Have a nice cool beer at the balcony and look out for some nice neighbour chicks to enjoy the view. Dont stare too long thou as the husband might throw an empty can over !
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post Jun 16 2021, 08:43 PM

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Most of the time pulling chair sounds is actually a water hammer sound in an apartment especially if it happens so many times. Or u also can blame ghost if the house above u actually empty
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post Jun 16 2021, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jun 16 2021, 08:35 PM)
I understand is difficult to tolerate noisy neighours.

If you focus your mind on other nice things instead of 'looking' for noise to hear, you be less stressful.

As time passes, you will tolerate the noise and accept the fact that you cant change your neighbour.

If what I suggested cannot work, then moving out is your only solution.

If your MO cannot help, I wonder how can we forumers help. The replied are merely copy and paste from your previous or others threads.

Have a nice cool beer at the balcony and look out for some nice neighbour chicks to enjoy the view. Dont stare too long thou as the husband might throw an empty can over !
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LOL good observation and well said!
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post Jun 16 2021, 09:12 PM

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My house landed also got chair pulling sound

Is the pipes

Or ghost ...
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post Jun 16 2021, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Jun 16 2021, 06:50 PM)
Almost every hour pulling chair

I got many video evidence of this idiot lady n her family pulling chair

Yet the stupid MO manager still sitting on it

What can I do?
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go buy a banglo, if can't afford
go stay in a cave

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post Jun 16 2021, 09:51 PM

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Talk nicely ask them to put carpet, can dampened the sound. My experience sometime it's not upstairs neighbor it can be other unit also.
Normally if yiu talk nicely dun involve mgmt can be solve easily. Good luck
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post Jun 16 2021, 10:04 PM

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Just think of it. Who would be so free and energetic to pull chairs every hour? As others said, it's not chair pulling sound but water hammer sound. As for your "video evidence" they are probably just audio recordings. You can't videograph people inside their apartments.


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post Jun 16 2021, 10:15 PM

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Why is it like every other week or two there will be threads about neighbour upstairs constantly dragging something lol
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post Jun 16 2021, 10:35 PM

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Just lodge a police report If no sue her
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post Jun 16 2021, 10:41 PM

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Ur problem still not settle ar?

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5148766

No other choice, got to live with it
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post Jun 16 2021, 10:54 PM

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Normally if I'm in your scenario, I will fight fire with fire.

I am great at revenge and are vengeful in nature.

I will probably use broom stick to knock on the ceiling at random time and MUCH higher frequency than your top neighbor. I could do it all day until they give up first. no problem.
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post Jun 16 2021, 10:59 PM

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post Jun 17 2021, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ May 23 2021, 10:44 PM)
Been complaiilning about this asshole drag chair purposely.

Very random sometime at 130 am sometime at 230 am

So difficult to record

Worse still this dude is good friend of resident commitee chairman

So chairman take no actuon dun want to take action just offer me n him go.talk

The asshole scolded n threaten the guards...who wanna meet him ?

Now he purposely drag chair every 30 min

Whart r my options ?
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Your post on May 23 2021.

Why would anybody be dragging chairs at 1.30 am or 2.30am? Would your neighbour sacrifice his sleep just to annoy you?

Be reasonable. It's either water hammer sound or a ghost. No human being would do that.


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post Jun 17 2021, 12:13 AM

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bro

chail pull sound or any other dragging sound is usually not people doing it la. Same goes for door slam, footsteps, marble dropping etc.

It's the building structure or pipe making sound.

either that or 👻

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post Jun 17 2021, 01:55 AM

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infrared incandescent or heat lamp, color lowish kelvin around 1000-2000k, 100 to 150 watts.

buy 5, buy another 5 stands that can reach the ceiling.

Now, run reconassaince, you're looking for tilam on floor positioning or multiple individuals in a room scenario + timeframe. But it doesn't matter that much, heat irradiates outward and travels up.

Run it 8 hrs, rest 3 hrs, repeat, blast these tracks 1 hour in if you've good speakers for best effects.




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post Jun 17 2021, 02:52 AM

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Most condos now want to save costs, so they floor it very thin. Old condos rarely will experience this because thick ceiling/floor.

So everytime you neighbour goes to toilet or move away from his pc, he will drag the chair, hence the noise.

Next time stay in terrace house. Or check the condo floor thickness before renting.
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post Jun 17 2021, 03:20 AM

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Do a google search la. So many years living in high rise building still think upper unit noisy. So many reason contributing to the sound. Go live in landed property la. Until you have a video showing the tenant dragging chair at 2 am just live with it la. Next time find condo build using bricks not concrete.

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post Jun 17 2021, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(Noryume @ Jun 17 2021, 03:20 AM)
Do a google search la. So many years living in high rise building still think upper unit noisy. So many reason contributing to the sound. Go live in landed property la. Until you have a video showing the tenant dragging chair at 2 am just live with it la. Next time find condo build using bricks not concrete.
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I do have video or the assh9le drag chair 2 am
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post Jun 17 2021, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(ieatchickens @ Jun 17 2021, 01:55 AM)
infrared incandescent or heat lamp, color lowish kelvin around 1000-2000k, 100 to 150 watts.

buy 5, buy another 5 stands that can reach the ceiling.

Now, run reconassaince, you're looking for tilam on floor positioning or multiple individuals in a room scenario + timeframe. But it doesn't matter that much, heat irradiates outward and travels up.

Run it 8 hrs, rest 3 hrs, repeat, blast these tracks 1 hour in if you've good speakers for best effects.




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Heat can travel up meh ?
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QUOTE(amir.asyraf @ Jun 17 2021, 01:13 AM)
bro

chail pull sound or any other dragging sound is usually not people doing it la. Same goes for door slam, footsteps, marble dropping etc.

It's the building structure or pipe making sound.

either that or 👻
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i suggested similar thing in his previous post on this problem. He was not receptive , kena maki back..

Just ignore ignorant ppl i guess.

All my lives hearing annoying noise from neighbors, its usually not as precise as what we perceived. Once I heard neighbor drilling from my left neighbor wall.... When i go out investigate....that drilling sound came from few houses away. Lucky no kecam membabi buta.

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My upstairs neighbour everytime use the bathroom sink must on and off the tap many times. The tap is the old school turning type, it is making a lot of noise. It must be so worn because it sounded like it needs to be screwed very tight when turning off.

I have to bear with the noise every night because he has the habit of using the sink near mid night.

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post Jun 17 2021, 08:29 AM

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post Jun 17 2021, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Jun 16 2021, 06:50 PM)
Almost every hour pulling chair

I got many video evidence of this idiot lady n her family pulling chair

Yet the stupid MO manager still sitting on it

What can I do?
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Beli Ceiling Vibrator/shaker from Taobao. It’s time to fight back.
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post Jun 17 2021, 08:45 AM

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What's more irritating for TS is how some people is adamant that the noise he's hearing is 100% water hammer or other building noises and there's no chance the upstairs neighbour is really dragging their furniture or making noise.

What I can agree though is that it could've been from units higher up, unless your unit is already the second highest. If it's from higher units, the upstairs neighbour would've claimed they're hearing it too when approached instead of saying they did nothing.
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QUOTE(DatoChin @ Jun 16 2021, 10:54 PM)
Normally if I'm in your scenario, I will fight fire with fire.

I am great at revenge and are vengeful in nature.

I will probably use broom stick to knock on the ceiling at random time and MUCH higher frequency than your top neighbor. I could do it all day until they give up first. no problem.
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Unless your ceiling is 100% concrete, if it's smoothed out with even a thin layer of plaster or skim coat, I'm sure you'll just end up leaving marks on your own ceiling.
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Marsiling residents fight over 'pungent' cooking smells, neighbour told to cook only 3 times a day. Both neighbours eventually agreed that the complainee can only cook from 10:30am-12.30pm, 4pm-6pm, and 8pm-10pm.

Lean Jinghui| May 30, 2021, 07:56 PM

Two neighbours went for mediation of their dispute at the Community Mediation Centre (CMC), after one complained about the "pungent" smell from the other neighbour's cooking.

According to Shin Min Daily News, this neighbourly conflict happened between two units at Blk 26 Marsiling Drive.

Neighbour upstairs complained about "oily smoke" every day
Wang Meixue (translated directly from Chinese), who's a 61-year-old housewife, told Shin Min Daily News that her neighbour seemed to enjoy cooking curry, fried fish, chicken wings, and many more dishes every single day.

The "pungent smell of oily smoke" often drifted up to her apartment, permeating the entire living room and bedrooms, she claimed.

As a result, they had to close their windows every day.

She said that this situation had continued for five to six years, and that she had complained about the family multiple times to the town council, even reporting it to the police for more than 10 times.

Unable to resolve the dispute between them, the matter was eventually raised to the CMC.

Both neighbours eventually came to an agreement for the family living in the unit downstairs to only cook at three specified timings in the day: 10:30am-12.30pm, 4pm-6pm, and 8pm-10pm.

But Wang claimed that her neighbour broke the agreement after two weeks.

Claimed that the smell has affected her entire family.

Additionally, as her daughter has just gotten pregnant, she said that she is worried about the effect of the smoke on the fetus.

She added that as they had to close the windows, resulting in the lack of air circulation in the apartment, the heat is often unbearable.

She also claimed that her son, who is working from home, is unable to concentrate on his work properly due to the heat.

The other side: Cooking for a family of eight.

On the other hand, the neighbour downstairs explained to Shin Min that she needed to cook for the whole family, which comprises herself, her husband, and six kids.

She said: "Why is it wrong to cook in my own home? I have a lot of family members, which is why I need to cook for a longer time."

The neighbour, who declined to be named, added that her family is also worn out from the lengthy dispute.

She told Shin Min that she had been abiding by the resolution set out by the CMC ever since both parties came to an agreement.

This meant that her family often had to wait to eat breakfast, even if they were hungry, as she could only begin cooking at 10:30am, she added.

Subsequent disagreements?
According to Wang, who claimed that her neighbours downstairs had not abided by the specified timings when cooking, she could no longer hold in her anger and yelled at them from her unit.

This led her neighbours to rush up to her unit, banging on her door and shouting at her family, she said.

Both parties subsequently got into a shouting match.

Wang said that she had only told her neighbours that they could not cook yet, while her neighbour complained that Wang had interrupted her husband's sleep.

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usually when things like this pulling chair, sounds of kids playing, marble dropping out of nowhere, or moving furniture and etc thats something going on or should u say ghost

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Jun 17 2021, 12:12 AM)
Your post on May 23 2021.

Why would anybody be dragging chairs at 1.30 am or 2.30am? Would your neighbour sacrifice his sleep just to annoy you?

Be reasonable. It's either water hammer sound or a ghost. No human being would do that.
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This neighbor is a group of bachelor women have late night parties

Used to do it

But I found a noise weapon to prevent this fella from doing late night attack

So..this assholw decide to do in day to disturb my baby sleep
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QUOTE(l4nunm4l4y4 @ Jun 16 2021, 07:08 PM)
Burn the entire building
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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Jun 17 2021, 09:46 AM)
This neighbor is a group of bachelor women have late night parties

Used to do it

But I found a noise weapon to prevent this fella from doing late night attack

So..this assholw decide to do in day to disturb my baby sleep
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In other words, lucky for you there's a chance they will move out eventually. Imagine they're the owners of the unit.
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topup a bit buy landed or buy penthouse also can...if still got sounds then report back ok.
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Audio recordings is not enough. Get a drone and secretly video them doing it.

But this is illegal so pandai pandai lah
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Fight fire with fire
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/208...airs-neighbours

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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Jun 17 2021, 07:40 AM)
I do have video or the assh9le drag chair 2 am
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Now go make official complaint to management or police or viral it.
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jun 16 2021, 06:59 PM)
Sponsor them the chair stockings like these - https://shopee.com.my/Socks-Furniture-Pure-...9553.1475982756

cheap cheap only. upsell them the benefits of less noise, and protect their floor from scratches laugh.gif
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at this stage, i think TS would pay them to put the stockings on laugh.gif
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QUOTE(metalfire @ Jun 17 2021, 10:05 AM)
topup a bit buy landed or buy penthouse also can...if still got sounds then report back ok.
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ah, one of my house, the neighbour rented it to factory workers.

imagine the horror when you saw bus kilang arrives with 30 workers

big house? checked
high class? checked
so in order to pay rent, they rent it to 30 people? checked

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ever seen bangla workers cook fish? they prep the fish at the gate, removing the scales laugh.gif

oh they eat sambal too. i suppose, hence the knocking etc


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life is truly a box of chocolate laugh.gif
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QUOTE(maserati @ Jun 17 2021, 10:02 AM)
In other words, lucky for you there's a chance they will move out eventually. Imagine they're the owners of the unit.
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Owners won't do this


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QUOTE(drowning @ Jun 17 2021, 10:07 AM)
Audio recordings is not enough. Get a drone and secretly video them doing it.

But this is illegal so pandai pandai lah
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The noise from drone u can hear miles away


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Speak to owner, ask. Management to force owner to terminate their contract when the time comes.

If u r renting and upstair is owner, den u hv to move out.
He stays there, u can't ask. Him to move.

U must be living in 20 to 30 yrs old building.

Get a lawyer to settle it. U have the right to have peace of time in your living area.
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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Jun 17 2021, 12:29 PM)
Owners won't do this
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You'd be very surprised.
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Go say thank you to them. What else can you do to other people house?

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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Jun 17 2021, 12:29 PM)
Owners won't do this
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You should meet my upstairs neighbors, TS. They are owners and feel entitled to make noise late at night and early morning. When confronted, they blame the other neighbors (which is funny because I am on good terms with those other neighbors). How do I know it's not other people? I've been observing them and on the days they're home, they will purposely make noise and drop things at night in certain locations like my bedroom. When they're gone, it's blissfully peaceful.

Best to confront your neighbors with management if you really want to solve the problem.
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QUOTE(Jaclow @ Jun 17 2021, 12:40 PM)
Speak to owner, ask. Management to force owner to terminate their contract when the time comes.

If u r renting and upstair is owner, den u hv to move out.
He stays there, u can't ask. Him to move.

U must be living in 20 to 30 yrs old building.

Get a lawyer to settle it. U have the right to have peace of time in your living area.
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Management doesn't have the right to force this on the owner. If they did, a lot of noise issues would've been resolved.

Even lawyers are hesitant when taking up these cases as the noise source can be argued to have originated from elsewhere.
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QUOTE(mataharih @ Jun 17 2021, 12:42 PM)
You should meet my upstairs neighbors, TS. They are owners and feel entitled to make noise late at night and early morning. When confronted, they blame the other neighbors (which is funny because I am on good terms with those other neighbors). How do I know it's not other people? I've been observing them and on the days they're home, they will purposely make noise and drop things at night in certain locations like my bedroom. When they're gone, it's blissfully peaceful.

Best to confront your neighbors with management if you really want to solve the problem.
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Unless management is very firm and the neighbour is willing to listen, there's nothing much that can be done.

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QUOTE(maserati @ Jun 17 2021, 12:47 PM)
Unless management is very firm and the neighbour is willing to listen, there's nothing much that can be done.
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Firm as to what level?

Block access card ? Disconnect water? LOD ?
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QUOTE(maserati @ Jun 17 2021, 12:47 PM)
Unless management is very firm and the neighbour is willing to listen, there's nothing much that can be done.
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Actually, the TS can make a police report with the evidence he's gathered. He can also scare them by getting a lawyer to issue a demand of notice and perhaps sue them, if they still refuse to behave.
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Actually ts, have u even spoke to the person above?
Or all this r just your assumption
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jun 17 2021, 12:54 PM)
Firm as to what level?

Block access card ? Disconnect water? LOD ?
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They can't block the access card either, as long as they're still paying their maintenance fees. Even if they don't pay, I think management doesn't have the right to block a person's access to their home. Hence, collection of maintenance fees are never 100% at any project, whether low cost or high end.

If they're continuing with renovation works after the allocated hours, then management may be able to turn off the water/power supply temporarily.

You can call the police and even if they continue making noise with the police present, they can't do much either as it's deemed an occurrence in a private property.

You need to know the laws in this country are very lacking to tackle noise issues. Some management will have their own set of house rules where residents have to acknowledge upon moving in which clearly states you're not allowed to disturb the peace of another home, every tenant has equal rights to peaceful living conditions, etc. If so, you may consider engaging a lawyer to see if this will hold up in court.

Having said this, you will need to ensure you've done plenty of homework and collected a shitload of evidence to backup your claims. And these evidence need to be able to stick. Else it becomes a he said she said type of scenario and you'll find your case thrown out very quickly and you're left with a nice bill from your lawyer. Unless you have only one upstairs neighbour, this is one very steep hill to climb.

If you have very high iq and eq, try to irritate the person disturbing you into throwing a punch. Once you've eaten that punch, the police can then make an arrest.

So taking all the above into consideration, unless you have plenty of time to burn, the "solutions" aren't for everyone. If you have a stressful job, be prepared to have more stress added to your everyday life for all the extra work you have to put in. Make sure you have deep pockets to if you want to go the legal way, just in case.
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QUOTE(mataharih @ Jun 17 2021, 12:58 PM)
Actually, the TS can make a police report with the evidence he's gathered. He can also scare them by getting a lawyer to issue a demand of notice and perhaps sue them, if they still refuse to behave.
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Later ts kid big oredi run around, drop thing, cry shout fight disturb neighbour downstairs. I wan to see what he say.
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Later ts kid big oredi run around, drop thing, cry shout fight disturb neighbour downstairs. I wan to see what he say.
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Unfortunately this is very true of most malaysians. They're aware of others bothering them but oblivious to them bothering others. Young, old and from whichever race, all the same. When it comes to acting shitty, malaysians are truly united
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jun 17 2021, 11:33 AM)
ah, one of my house, the neighbour rented it to factory workers.

imagine the horror when you saw bus kilang arrives with 30 workers

big house? checked
high class? checked
so in order to pay rent, they rent it to 30 people? checked

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ever seen bangla workers cook fish? they prep the fish at the gate, removing the scales  laugh.gif

oh they eat sambal too. i suppose, hence the knocking etc
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yes i saw this situation before...in one row of double storey terrace houses, foreign national factory workers occupy a few units.

pity the neighbours and opposite row houses gotta face all the situation above everyday.
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Pee on him to show dominance but overall i got a neighbor like this too, can only soundproof my room and wear earplug.

Edited : Buy them a carpet for chair, guess he'll get the msg.

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This happens in Condos especially when there kids running around. Thin floored condos, you can hear the kids running upstairs. Sometimes they will pull the chair or table.

Adults also will make noise when they get up from the PC chair, get up from makan table. and so on.

Rent a terrace house. Only rent a condo when the unit above you is empty or less occupied.

The water pump sound and water hose sound is still bearable, but the furniture pulling is irritating.

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QUOTE(Jaclow @ Jun 17 2021, 12:40 PM)
Speak to owner, ask. Management to force owner to terminate their contract when the time comes.

If u r renting and upstair is owner, den u hv to move out.
He stays there, u can't ask. Him to move.

U must be living in 20 to 30 yrs old building.

Get a lawyer to settle it. U have the right to have peace of time in your living area.
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The asshole is tenant

I thinking of calling polis
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QUOTE(mataharih @ Jun 17 2021, 12:42 PM)
You should meet my upstairs neighbors, TS. They are owners and feel entitled to make noise late at night and early morning. When confronted, they blame the other neighbors (which is funny because I am on good terms with those other neighbors). How do I know it's not other people? I've been observing them and on the days they're home, they will purposely make noise and drop things at night in certain locations like my bedroom. When they're gone, it's blissfully peaceful.

Best to confront your neighbors with management if you really want to solve the problem.
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But how they sleep late n wake up early?

They have to sleep late n wake up late right ?
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QUOTE(maserati @ Jun 17 2021, 01:16 PM)
They can't block the access card either, as long as they're still paying their maintenance fees. Even if they don't pay, I think management doesn't have the right to block a person's access to their home. Hence, collection of maintenance fees are never 100% at any project, whether low cost or high end.

If they're continuing with renovation works after the allocated hours, then management may be able to turn off the water/power supply temporarily.

You can call the police and even if they continue making noise with the police present, they can't do much either as it's deemed an occurrence in a private property.

You need to know the laws in this country are very lacking to tackle noise issues. Some management will have their own set of house rules where residents have to acknowledge upon moving in which clearly states you're not allowed to disturb the peace of another home, every tenant has equal rights to peaceful living conditions, etc. If so, you may consider engaging a lawyer to see if this will hold up in court.

Having said this, you will need to ensure you've done plenty of homework and collected a shitload of evidence to backup your claims. And these evidence need to be able to stick. Else it becomes a he said she said type of scenario and you'll find your case thrown out very quickly and you're left with a nice bill from your lawyer. Unless you have only one upstairs neighbour, this is one very steep hill to climb.

If you have very high iq and eq, try to irritate the person disturbing you into throwing a punch. Once you've eaten that punch, the police can then make an arrest.

So taking all the above into consideration, unless you have plenty of time to burn, the "solutions" aren't for everyone. If you have a stressful job, be prepared to have more stress added to your everyday life for all the extra work you have to put in. Make sure you have deep pockets to if you want to go the legal way, just in case.
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Legal way works if the tenant is an idiot n get scared easily.

If is an asshole...to sue will oneself stuck in legal debt trap

This country sucks for legal lawsuit. Only the rich do legal lawsuit because they have bottomless pit. Some rich do lawsuit even though they wrong because they know they can put the poor under stress.

My condo has a nuisance law...that if got evidence can fine the owner who rent to tenant. Maybe if keep fine the owner.. owner dun pay..haha can cut water or electricity

I lived in Australia...I notice people stay in condo are very expressful of their peaceful rights. I once had attended a party at my fren place. He invited 20 of us. Dun think we were running or what. We were just sitting there having snacks n talk ghost stories. Siddenly the aussie owner downstairs was pissed with us due to noise. Only 1130pm...he call the guards to chase us out. Our friend who rented the place was visibly afraid. In Australia they respect this kind of things.


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QUOTE(maserati @ Jun 17 2021, 10:02 AM)
In other words, lucky for you there's a chance they will move out eventually. Imagine they're the owners of the unit.
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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Jun 17 2021, 09:40 PM)
But how they sleep late n wake up early?

They have to sleep late n wake up late right ?
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No idea how they manage but the father was in the army, maybe he’s used to a weird sleeping schedule. The whole family, including the toddlers, sleep around 1am to 2am and wake up around 7am.
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QUOTE(mataharih @ Jun 17 2021, 11:02 PM)
No idea how they manage but the father was in the army, maybe he’s used to a weird sleeping schedule. The whole family, including the toddlers, sleep around 1am to 2am and wake up around 7am.
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Some like to have a mid-day nap and active all night. My case not so serious but he's MR DIY, likes to drop hammer, nuts n bolts around 10AM. Then walks with heavy feet and also moves furniture around... I have to counter it by playing music so at least the noise made by him won't affect me much.

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QUOTE(duplicated @ Jun 17 2021, 03:37 PM)
This happens in Condos especially when there kids running around. Thin floored condos, you can hear the kids running upstairs. Sometimes they will pull the chair or table.

Adults also will make noise when they get up from the PC chair, get up from makan table. and so on.

Rent a terrace house. Only rent a condo when the unit above you is empty or less occupied.

The water pump sound and water hose sound is still bearable, but the furniture pulling is irritating.
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Don’t forget the stomping and banging by the kids until late at night. My neighbors used the MCO as an excuse for letting their kids run, stomp and bang until midnight. Even after numerous complaints to MO and security, they are still acting like a holes. Sigh….really maddening.
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QUOTE(chimpeny @ Jun 17 2021, 11:07 PM)
Some like to have a mid-day nap and active all night. My case not so serious but he's MR DIY, likes to drop hammer, nuts n bolts around 10AM. Then walks with heavy feet and also moves furniture around... I have to counter it by playing music so at least the noise made by him won't affect me much.
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Only once in a while and in the morning? You’re lucky then. Mine and I guess TS is at night.

Surprised with the parents here…don’t they set bedtime for their kids? Even before COVId, used to see parents bringing their small kids outside to eat late at night.
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parking here coz my nasty neighbour always pushing chair noisy AF
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jun 17 2021, 11:33 AM)
ah, one of my house, the neighbour rented it to factory workers.

imagine the horror when you saw bus kilang arrives with 30 workers

big house? checked
high class? checked
so in order to pay rent, they rent it to 30 people? checked

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ever seen bangla workers cook fish? they prep the fish at the gate, removing the scales  laugh.gif

oh they eat sambal too. i suppose, hence the knocking etc
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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Jun 17 2021, 08:03 AM)
Heat can travel up meh ?
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no shit dude, just roast them already, physics in this case favors you

if it feels sweaty as fuck 1.7m under those bulbs, i magine the swamp of lava above. It takes 10 mins max to fully conduct and saturate 6" of concrete with heat, reinforced ? even better. Best thing ? Aint nobody can do shiiieett. Da fuck municipality gon tell me i cant use old school lamps coz i like the "color" and prefer blowing on 150w.

and this is me being nice and solving this for you ASAP with the least trauma for both sides without touching on the cruel stuff.

Best on humid days, 24/7 for quickest results.

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QUOTE(chimpeny @ Jun 17 2021, 11:07 PM)
Some like to have a mid-day nap and active all night. My case not so serious but he's MR DIY, likes to drop hammer, nuts n bolts around 10AM. Then walks with heavy feet and also moves furniture around... I have to counter it by playing music so at least the noise made by him won't affect me much.
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A DIY guy is the worst. They will constantly doing something and dropping stuff on the floor. And they will be constantly pulling furniture.
Especially those that work at home doing DIY stuff and selling online.
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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Jun 16 2021, 06:50 PM)
Almost every hour pulling chair

I got many video evidence of this idiot lady n her family pulling chair

Yet the stupid MO manager still sitting on it

What can I do?
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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Jun 16 2021, 06:50 PM)
Almost every hour pulling chair

I got many video evidence of this idiot lady n her family pulling chair

Yet the stupid MO manager still sitting on it

What can I do?
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maybe its something spooky............you never heard....

https://www.homeanddecor.com.sg/design/news...s-these-sounds/
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QUOTE(mataharih @ Jun 17 2021, 11:02 PM)
No idea how they manage but the father was in the army, maybe he’s used to a weird sleeping schedule. The whole family, including the toddlers, sleep around 1am to 2am and wake up around 7am.
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There got to be a weakness in their sleeping pattern

Maybe u can put loud phones to ring in the afternoon
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QUOTE(mataharih @ Jun 17 2021, 11:09 PM)
Don’t forget the stomping and banging by the kids until late at night. My neighbors used the MCO as an excuse for letting their kids run, stomp and bang until midnight. Even after numerous complaints to MO and security, they are still acting like a holes. Sigh….really maddening.
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Buy them shoes ? To absorb sound ? Kid shoes r not that expensive

That asshole unit upstairs drag chair like earthquake...


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QUOTE(ieatchickens @ Jun 17 2021, 11:58 PM)
no shit dude, just roast them already, physics in this case favors you

if it feels sweaty as fuck 1.7m under those bulbs, i magine the swamp of lava above. It takes 10 mins max to fully conduct and saturate 6" of concrete with heat, reinforced ? even better. Best thing ? Aint nobody can do shiiieett. Da fuck municipality gon tell me i cant use old school lamps coz i like the "color" and prefer blowing on 150w.

and this is me being nice and solving this for you ASAP with the least trauma for both sides without touching on the cruel stuff.

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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Jun 18 2021, 08:38 AM)
There got to be a weakness in their sleeping pattern

Maybe u can put loud phones to ring in the afternoon
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I don’t understand what’s the point of this type of revengeful disturbances? To make the upstairs tenant know it is you who disturb them and get them to talk? Or revenge just for revenge sake? It’s not going to solve the sound problem right?
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I don’t understand what’s the point of this type of revengeful disturbances? To make the upstairs tenant know it is you who disturb them and get them to talk? Or revenge just for revenge sake? It’s not going to solve the sound problem right?
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I don’t understand what’s the point of this type of revengeful disturbances? To make the upstairs tenant know it is you who disturb them and get them to talk? Or revenge just for revenge sake? It’s not going to solve the sound problem right?
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usually when things like this pulling chair, sounds of kids playing, marble dropping out of nowhere, or moving furniture and etc thats something going on or should u say ghost
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what is this shit? it's happening on my unit above. my friend whose neighbor on top Indians tenant also this sound

Praying to indian God izzit?
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Well there is all kind of people out there

Some talk nicely will listen

Some need to go mengamuk at 1am banging their door like fuking drunk old salty crazy man then they only will think ohh someone is not ok with it

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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Jun 16 2021, 06:50 PM)
Almost every hour pulling chair

I got many video evidence of this idiot lady n her family pulling chair

Yet the stupid MO manager still sitting on it

What can I do?
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Are you sure tenant upstairs is occupied or not empty house?

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Are you sure tenant upstairs is occupied or not empty house?
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Guess staying in high rise is the fastest way to gain mental illness
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jun 30 2021, 09:58 AM)
Hahaha, wonder why this guy had to go to WOB. After reading that article, I am more sympathetic to his downstairs neighbor.
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Sometimes the stomping sound may not originate directly from the unit upstair, depending on how the condo is built, it can originate from the common walkway. The vibration on the common walkway can travel through the floor slab or any structural steel and from below, it can be heard as if it happened directly upthere.

Furniture dragging noise can also be caused by loose piping, even vibrating pipe can cause hacking/knocking noise. Remember the pipe is pressurized from the water pump, so any turn on/off will cause it to vibrate. And sometimes, not turning the faucet fully on may cause it to vibrate non-stop.

Again, depending on the condo construction, some noise may exhibit like this or in any other ways. So it's not always your neighbour dragging furniture or stomping their feet.

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go upstair and knock their door to complain.

Else, tahan je or if you got money pindah je
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go upstair and knock their door to complain.

Else, tahan je or if you got money pindah je
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I have no idea why people tend to keep saying marble & furniture sound are all from ghosts. YOU'RE THE GHOST.

I have been disturbed by neighbors from one place to another and I can tell you all these are caused by bastards.

Previously was the worst , every single night, downstairs neighbor who has 3 toddlers non-stop playing screaming and shouting in the room I can hear them clearly, and yet they dont admit, and they doing it on purpose cause we have been complaining for so long. They know we hear them and yet keep doing still, then the parents also nonstop dragging the chairs until we cannot tahan then moved out. We had been disturbed them for 5 freaking years, even reported to police.

Then currently this new place, I'm already at 2nd highest floor, yet the stupid upstairs neighbor, 2 chinese 2 indians, renting rooms, each of them have 1 dining chairs for their "work station". Imagine they everyday nonstop walking already causing heavy footsteps noise, dont know why can ppl walk so loud like elephant, keep pushing and dragging the chair when they get up or sit down.

Oh, they also like to move the chairs everywhere, into the room etc, and they dont sleep, saw them cooking during 3AM too. Dont freaking tell me it's ghost cause all these doings are by freaking human. Especially got visitors. Not to mention also, recently they vacuum after 12AM.

Complaint them several times, bodoh punya lansi owner came tell us, "aiya the flooring of the building is very thin, is like that one, got ppl stay sure got noise. We use office chair got wheel one leh". The first time when got noise I already went up talk to them nicely saw them using all dining chairs, still wanna lie.

At last, quiet for a month, asked them to use the felt pad for their chairs, then immediately told us they have bought the felt pad, but then after a month, the noise came back. So they lied, never buy at all. Wow, but at least not as noisy before, but still I'll monitor, I have a feeling they will be noisy again.
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I have no idea why people tend to keep saying marble & furniture sound are all from ghosts. YOU'RE THE GHOST.

I have been disturbed by neighbors from one place to another and I can tell you all these are caused by bastards.

Previously was the worst , every single night, downstairs neighbor who has 3 toddlers non-stop playing screaming and shouting in the room I can hear them clearly, and yet they dont admit, and they doing it on purpose cause we have been complaining for so long. They know we hear them and yet keep doing still, then the parents also nonstop dragging the chairs until we cannot tahan then moved out. We had been disturbed them for 5 freaking years, even reported to police.

Then currently this new place, I'm already at 2nd highest floor, yet the stupid upstairs neighbor, 2 chinese 2 indians, renting rooms, each of them have 1 dining chairs for their "work station". Imagine they everyday nonstop walking already causing heavy footsteps noise, dont know why can ppl walk so loud like elephant, keep pushing and dragging the chair when they get up or sit down.

Oh, they also like to move the chairs everywhere, into the room etc, and they dont sleep, saw them cooking during 3AM too. Dont freaking tell me it's ghost cause all these doings are by freaking human. Especially got visitors. Not to mention also, recently they vacuum after 12AM.

Complaint them several times, bodoh punya lansi owner came tell us, "aiya the flooring of the building is very thin, is like that one, got ppl stay sure got noise. We use office chair got wheel one leh". The first time when got noise I already went up talk to them nicely saw them using all dining chairs, still wanna lie.

At last, quiet for a month, asked them to use the felt pad for their chairs, then immediately told us they have bought the felt pad, but then after a month, the noise came back. So they lied, never buy at all. Wow, but at least not as noisy before, but still I'll monitor, I have a feeling they will be noisy again.
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QUOTE(NekoMomo @ Sep 14 2021, 02:34 PM)
I have no idea why people tend to keep saying marble & furniture sound are all from ghosts. YOU'RE THE GHOST.

I have been disturbed by neighbors from one place to another and I can tell you all these are caused by bastards.

Previously was the worst , every single night, downstairs neighbor who has 3 toddlers non-stop playing screaming and shouting in the room I can hear them clearly, and yet they dont admit, and they doing it on purpose cause we have been complaining for so long. They know we hear them and yet keep doing still, then the parents also nonstop dragging the chairs until we cannot tahan then moved out. We had been disturbed them for 5 freaking years, even reported to police.

Then currently this new place, I'm already at 2nd highest floor, yet the stupid upstairs neighbor, 2 chinese 2 indians, renting rooms, each of them have 1 dining chairs for their "work station". Imagine they everyday nonstop walking already causing heavy footsteps noise, dont know why can ppl walk so loud like elephant, keep pushing and dragging the chair when they get up or sit down.

Oh, they also like to move the chairs everywhere, into the room etc, and they dont sleep, saw them cooking during 3AM too. Dont freaking tell me it's ghost cause all these doings are by freaking human. Especially got visitors. Not to mention also, recently they vacuum after 12AM.

Complaint them several times, bodoh punya lansi owner came tell us, "aiya the flooring of the building is very thin, is like that one, got ppl stay sure got noise. We use office chair got wheel one leh". The first time when got noise I already went up talk to them nicely saw them using all dining chairs, still wanna lie.

At last, quiet for a month, asked them to use the felt pad for their chairs, then immediately told us they have bought the felt pad, but then after a month, the noise came back. So they lied, never buy at all. Wow, but at least not as noisy before, but still I'll monitor, I have a feeling they will be noisy again.
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My god, if you could hear your previous downstairs neighbors, they must have been frigging loud! I feel you..I’m currently dealing with elephant neighbor kids upstairs and next door…it’s mental torture with their stomping, jumping, dropping things, running. Meanwhile their elephant parents are too lazy to control them and don’t give a damn about my complaints.

Too many selfish and entitled bastards living in high rises, not to mention the shitty quality of our buildings.
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Wow, this topic seems to be popular & the problem seems appearing over & over.

Back at year 2009, I was introduced to an acosutic technology known as sound masking. One the O&G gweilou wanted to installed the so called sound masking devices it at their new operation office. This sound masking device is a sound generator which generates wide range of sounds at different range of frequencies.

The layman term being used when the qweilou elaborated on how it works was, when 1 or 2 peoples are talking, we can hear their conversations as interrupting because we can understand what they are talking unwillingly, we can't block the sound becasue the sound travels. When we get more & more sounds of talking by making it up via artificiallly generated to 200~300 conversations at on time (using sound masking ), our brain cannot process so many sounds at once go, it actually make us "less intelligent" and the sorrounding sounds appear to be less disturbing.

I believe there should be a similar sound masking technology / devices in the market to cater for the sounds issue for the high rise community.

If you have already tried all methods & still not working , may be give this a try. I personally never tried but the gweilou said very effective.
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Wow, this topic seems to be popular & the problem seems appearing over & over.

Back at year 2009, I was introduced to an acosutic technology known as sound masking. One the O&G gweilou wanted to installed the so called sound masking devices it at their new operation office. This sound masking device is a sound generator which generates wide range of sounds at different range of frequencies.

The layman term being used when the qweilou elaborated on how it works was, when 1 or 2 peoples are talking, we can hear their conversations as interrupting because we can understand what they are talking unwillingly, we can't block the sound becasue the sound travels. When we get more & more sounds of talking by making it up via artificiallly generated to 200~300 conversations at on time (using sound masking ), our brain cannot process so many sounds at once go, it actually make us "less intelligent" and the sorrounding sounds appear to be less disturbing.

I believe there should be a similar sound masking technology / devices in the market to cater for the sounds issue for the high rise community.

If you have already tried all methods & still not working , may be give this a try. I personally never tried but the gweilou said very effective.
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I heard this kind of stuff very easy to catch fire
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It is an extra low voltage (ELV) device. ELV have the least risk of fire hazard to my knowledge.


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QUOTE(Maria Takagi @ Sep 14 2021, 04:18 PM)
U can play loud radio during the day to prevent them from sleeping in the day.
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Like that I disturbed other neighbors as well mellow.gif
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My god, if you could hear your previous downstairs neighbors, they must have been frigging loud! I feel you..I’m currently dealing with elephant neighbor kids upstairs and next door…it’s mental torture with their stomping, jumping, dropping things, running. Meanwhile their elephant parents are too lazy to control them and don’t give a damn about my complaints.

Too many selfish and entitled bastards living in high rises, not to mention the shitty quality of our buildings.
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Like that I disturbed other neighbors as well  mellow.gif
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You play music during day time only.

but if your upstairs disturb you only lah

if they don't u don't play music lor
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Would be interesting and exciting to see the result.
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have you tried posting angry notes on their door/ in their mailbox?

I've done this on a couple of noisy tenants and it worked. If they still stubborn, stick more and more notes until their mailbox full and their door is covered

Wanna do extra, use super glue. then the ugly remains of the paper stuck on their door laugh.gif
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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Sep 15 2021, 05:07 PM)
have you tried posting angry notes on their door/ in their mailbox?

I've done this on a couple of noisy tenants and it worked. If they still stubborn, stick more and more notes until their mailbox full and their door is covered

Wanna do extra, use super glue. then the ugly remains of the paper stuck on their door laugh.gif
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Tried talked to them f2f, complaint to management, called security guard, also talked to the owner (turns out to be their friend). All useless smile.gif
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QUOTE(NekoMomo @ Sep 16 2021, 12:18 PM)
Tried talked to them f2f, complaint to management, called security guard, also talked to the owner (turns out to be their friend). All useless smile.gif
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talking different ma. try annoying them back with spams of notes and see
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Those here who said ghosts probably said that because of self-guilt denial. Meaning they got complaints on them before, so they try to blame the ghosts. Guilt denial.

If you want to stay in a condo, try to stay in a place where the flooring is thick. Some condos have thick flooring. But the newer ones are thin because they want to save costs.

That's why most want to stay in landed property, don't have to worry about above tenants noise. Some bought the top floor or pent house because of this too.

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6 pages of you're basically fucked TS.

If you weren't expecting this problem when purchasing a highrise unit sandwich between hundreds of tenants, well guess what ... welcome to the jungle.

in all seriousness, I just want to participate in this discussion because I too have been on the receiving and giving end of this. I ask for my neighbors forgiveness , for I am too guilty of rocking the bed furiously over the weekend and occasionally the 2nd and 3rd week's Wednesday and Thursday.
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QUOTE(NekoMomo @ Sep 16 2021, 12:18 PM)
Tried talked to them f2f, complaint to management, called security guard, also talked to the owner (turns out to be their friend). All useless smile.gif
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Contact the unit 2 floors above you and pay them money to revenge for you, see if the middle unit still want to be a chibai.
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That's the condo life I guess. It all truly depends on luck. You could be getting horror neighbors from left, right, upstairs which could cause you mental breakdown.

Confronting doesn't work? Either move out or pay someone more gangster than you to do the dirty work.

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Move to his her upstair.
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my neighbor always go out and back house slam the main door. 1day slam 20x
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Move to his her upstair.
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Contact the unit 2 floors above you and pay them money to revenge for you, see if the middle unit still want to be a chibai.
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Too bad they're the top floor, that's why.
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Move to his her upstair.
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QUOTE(duplicated @ Sep 28 2021, 03:57 PM)
Those here who said ghosts probably said that because of self-guilt denial. Meaning they got complaints on them before, so they try to blame the ghosts. Guilt denial.

If you want to stay in a condo, try to stay in a place where the flooring is thick. Some condos have thick flooring. But the newer ones are thin because they want to save costs.

That's why most want to stay in landed property, don't have to worry about above tenants noise. Some bought the top floor or pent house because of this too.
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I totally agree with what you say, ghost my ass, all these are done by human. And yes my current place is rumahwip, the flooring is thin. Upstairs prick say "got ppl stay that's why got noise ma", but no one ask u to keep dragging the chair for nothing.
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Anybody thought of splashing red paint on his door?

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Drag chair je.

Let MO figure out How to solve everybody dragging chair.

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staying apartment/condo is like that lo, you think upstair noisy, your downstair also curse you everyday too just you dono
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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Oct 6 2021, 06:38 PM)
Anybody thought of splashing red paint on his door?
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That would be illegal, can become police case already
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Sometimes not chair, but water hammer sound in the water pipe.
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This is the most boring answer in the forums.
It happened to my condo... I did record at my unit while i ask my neighbors to stomping and move chairs, yes its not bullshit science water hammer sound.

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The other day there was another forummer recommended "ceiling thumper", anyone managed to get a hand and try on it?

Would be interesting and exciting to see the result.
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It work but might damage the concentrate from the vibration created from ceiling thumper.

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It work but might damage the concentrate from the vibration created from ceiling thumper.
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They're on the top floor, no one can annoy them.
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Next time buy/rent a condo that has thick flooring. I have stayed a few condos that have thick flooring, no upstairs noise. A little older condos.
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QUOTE(NekoMomo @ Oct 6 2021, 03:51 PM)
I totally agree with what you say, ghost my ass, all these are done by human. And yes my current place is rumahwip, the flooring is thin. Upstairs prick say "got ppl stay that's why got noise ma", but no one ask u to keep dragging the chair for nothing.
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Its called water hammer..learn some science will you.
People said its a ghost as a joke. No one dragging chair after 12 am for no reason everyday.

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Its called water hammer..learn some science will you.
People said its a ghost as a joke. No one dragging chair after 12 am for no reason everyday.
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Why not?

Some people use their laptop till very late. Everytime they go to toilet, drink water or go somewhere, they will move their chair to get up, then will move again when they come back to sit.
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QUOTE(duplicated @ Oct 7 2021, 01:46 AM)
Why not?

Some people use their laptop till very late. Everytime they go to toilet, drink water or go somewhere, they will move their chair to get up, then will move again when they come back to sit.
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If its a normal human, the dragging sound will be very short. No one dragging chair so long just to get up. Usually when people complaint the dragging sound is long and very annoying, is like someone really dragging a chair just to annoy you. But it is not because it is a water hammer sound.
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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Oct 7 2021, 02:15 AM)
If its a normal human, the dragging sound will be very short. No one dragging chair so long just to get up. Usually when people complaint the dragging sound is long and very annoying, is like someone really dragging a chair just to annoy you. But it is not because it is a water hammer sound.
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Well some people even cannot tahan the "dragging" sound when people stand up
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QUOTE(knumskul @ Oct 7 2021, 03:30 AM)
Well some people even cannot tahan the "dragging" sound when people stand up
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Yes because it is a water hammer sound. So it is loud and annoying.
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if u got enough money, sound proof your ceiling.
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I'm planning this option as well. bad luck, got neighbor from tuttttt, can hear they chit chat, their tv and their song. surprisingly the other side neighbor, i cant hear their conversation & their tv.. hahaha
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QUOTE(duplicated @ Oct 7 2021, 01:46 AM)
Why not?

Some people use their laptop till very late. Everytime they go to toilet, drink water or go somewhere, they will move their chair to get up, then will move again when they come back to sit.
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True enough, like my upstairs neighbor 3/4am still awake & drag chair. After complaint few times, gets even worse. Goes to see management they say go make police report. So go to balai, they say this one your management must handle. Now going to look for landed.
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What to do. Cheap house always got this problem.
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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Oct 7 2021, 03:15 AM)
If its a normal human, the dragging sound will be very short. No one dragging chair so long just to get up. Usually when people complaint the dragging sound is long and very annoying, is like someone really dragging a chair just to annoy you. But it is not because it is a water hammer sound.
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Jokes on you, why does the so called "water hammer sound" comes from the ceiling instead of the walls? Why does the so called hammer water sound, can move from living room to bedroom?? And why do I hear footsteps followed by the dragging noise? Cause it's a freaking chair la! Use some common sense la , MOST BORING ANSWER - WATER HAMMER SOUND. They use the toilet I also can hear, how come when they use the toilet I dont hear any so called water hammer sound? Seriously it's damn dumb answer, just because you people dont experience this doesnt mean it's not. And yes, my upstairs neighbor knowing it will annoy us so they do it on purpose.

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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Oct 7 2021, 01:29 AM)
Its called water hammer..learn some science will you.
People said its a ghost as a joke. No one dragging chair after 12 am for no reason everyday.
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I know one family got an oku daughter drag chair everyday

Due to the sensitive nature n out of kindness no one complain
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QUOTE(anakkk @ Oct 6 2021, 07:43 PM)
staying apartment/condo is like that lo, you think upstair noisy, your downstair also curse you everyday too just you dono
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LOL, we are educated people and we think for other ppl's sake, we dont drag the chair, instead we lift it up, we do things softly we don't slam the door etc, we dont vacuum at 12am onwards and we dont walk loudly like elephants. If yes, my downstairs already come complaint me. Cause my upstairs is indeed super duper noisy. Usually at night we just lay on the bed on sit on the sofa watching tv / scrolling on phone, we dont freaking make noise, so i wonder what kind of people get super active at night like them. I even woke up in around 3am and they are still doing stuffs and cooking cause I saw it. And walking nonstop throughout the day dragging chairs all.
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People be saying water hammer sound cause you never experience it, I even went up confronted them and it's their freaking chair make noise and they completely ignored us and do it still, if moving out is easy, then this kind of post wont even exist. Nowadays all these high rise buildings soundproof is extremely bad. So yea, people who experience it like us can only just rant it. I know how a water hammer sound sounds like from my previous condo, a chair is a chair.
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Nowadays 3rd party contractor prefer flexible piping that snakes through walls rarely suffer from water hammers. i don't understand kids answer with old school mentality water hammers.
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QUOTE(NekoMomo @ Oct 7 2021, 10:48 AM)
LOL, we are educated people and we think for other ppl's sake, we dont drag the chair, instead we lift it up, we do things softly we don't slam the door etc, we dont vacuum at 12am onwards and we dont walk loudly like elephants. If yes, my downstairs already come complaint me. Cause my upstairs is indeed super duper noisy. Usually at night we just lay on the bed on sit on the sofa watching tv / scrolling on phone, we dont freaking make noise, so i wonder what kind of people get super active at night like them. I even woke up in around 3am and they are still doing stuffs and cooking cause I saw it. And walking nonstop throughout the day dragging chairs all.
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haha yep, my downstairs also complain me, now we do things quietly, but whatever noise she just claim come from us.

the issue is she is night owl, don't sleep at night, day time if we walk, do stuff, then will woke her up.

but during wee hour, she makes a lot of noise too, like knocking her bloom to the wall while sweeping, cooking and so on, but usually i sleep like a log, but sometimes i go toilet I can hear those noise.
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QUOTE(NekoMomo @ Oct 7 2021, 10:57 AM)
People be saying water hammer sound cause you never experience it, I even went up confronted them and it's their freaking chair make noise and they completely ignored us and do it still, if moving out is easy, then this kind of post wont even exist. Nowadays all these high rise buildings soundproof is extremely bad. So yea, people who experience it like us can only just rant it. I know how a water hammer sound sounds like from my previous condo, a chair is a chair.
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QUOTE(anakkk @ Oct 7 2021, 12:37 PM)
haha yep, my downstairs also complain me, now we do things quietly, but whatever noise she just claim come from us.

the issue is she is night owl, don't sleep at night, day time if we walk, do stuff, then will woke her up.

but during wee hour, she makes a lot of noise too, like knocking her bloom to the wall while sweeping, cooking and so on, but usually i sleep like a log, but sometimes i go toilet I can hear those noise.
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u both leaving at ppr is it? that is why floor so thin.
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I avoid houses with kids above. They like to drag furniture, run around, very noisy.

Always check before renting if the above house got kids (if the flooring is thin). Best if the above house is empty.
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u both leaving at ppr is it? that is why floor so thin.
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most of the condos are like that nowadays, I asked few friends, all kena before
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u both leaving at ppr is it? that is why floor so thin.
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Not only ppr, nowadays most new condos are like that because they want to save costs.
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QUOTE(NekoMomo @ Oct 7 2021, 10:57 AM)
People be saying water hammer sound cause you never experience it, I even went up confronted them and it's their freaking chair make noise and they completely ignored us and do it still, if moving out is easy, then this kind of post wont even exist. Nowadays all these high rise buildings soundproof is extremely bad. So yea, people who experience it like us can only just rant it. I know how a water hammer sound sounds like from my previous condo, a chair is a chair.
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some people pandai cakap tapi never actual experience it, leave it be wink.gif

my upstair neighbour early morning sure knocking thing, then middle of night sure open water pipe fill water, daily.

fed up tbh bangwall.gif
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Yes because it is a water hammer sound. So it is loud and annoying.
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No I meant the actual sound of chair moving when somebody gets up. Some people get extremely annoyed even by just that. Normal sound levels but some extremely sensitive.

Imagine living with that all day everyday where whole upstairs family does it.
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QUOTE(duplicated @ Oct 7 2021, 02:13 PM)
I avoid houses with kids above. They like to drag furniture, run around, very noisy.

Always check before renting if the above house got kids (if the flooring is thin). Best if the above house is empty.
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Avoid units with kids next door too…currently listening to the kids next door go crazy, jumping and pounding on things. I hope school reopens soon so these little devils can go away…their parents are uneducated and idiotic for allowing their kids to go crazy and disturbing people’s peace. I dunno how many times I’ve complained and reasoned with them about the noise. bangwall.gif

And for those saying the noise happens in PPR flats, my condo is RM600++ but nowadays even people with PPR mentality can afford these type of places. They just stuff their 5-6 kids in a small unit..bloody cibais.

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QUOTE(mataharih @ Oct 7 2021, 06:31 PM)
Avoid units with kids next door too…currently listening to the kids next door go crazy, jumping and pounding on things. I hope school reopens soon so these little devils can go away…their parents are uneducated and idiotic for allowing their kids to go crazy and disturbing people’s peace.

And for those saying the noise happens in PPR flats, my condo is RM600++ but nowadays even people with PPR mentality can afford these type of places. They just stuff their 5-6 kids in a small unit..bloody cibais.
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How to avoid ?

If ur unit upstairs is rented u will never know which new tenant would come
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have you spoke to the tenant upstairs?
if not record it and complain to mgmt...
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QUOTE(duplicated @ Oct 7 2021, 03:57 PM)
Not only ppr, nowadays most new condos are like that because they want to save costs.
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Correct, we too noticed that older apartments/condo flooring are thicker, i've stayed at 1 too previously, couldnt really hear loud noise from neighbors, nowadays the noise not only coming from upstairs, but also downstairs neighbors. What to do ... move to anywhere also same, just hope the neighbor is quiet only.
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QUOTE(knumskul @ Oct 7 2021, 06:59 PM)
No I meant the actual sound of chair moving when somebody gets up. Some people get extremely annoyed even by just that. Normal sound levels but some extremely sensitive.

Imagine living with that all day everyday where whole upstairs family does it.
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Exactly!! I'm so sick of the chair dragging sound! Cause I got phobia from my previous neighbors who did it on purpose to us, every single night 12am onwards together with their kids, so currently this new place this 4 tenants upstairs love to drag the chair as well, I just cant! Also the loud footstep, woke me up every morning!! bangwall.gif mad.gif vmad.gif
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Yes already did, the very first day I moved in this April, they already drag from morning till night walking nonstop dont know doing what, out of kindness, we decided to go up and talk to them nicely, what they replied was just "ok we'll try" then continue doing so.

After that one of the tenant brought guest over. they were like keep dragging the chair I dont know why, I went up around 3AM and their door was open wide and chit chatting loudly there.

But after numerous of complaints, they're still like that. Management also cant do anything, what management told us was "We already told them not to make noise, if they're doing still, what more can we do?"

I even met with their owner, turns out to be their friend, with super arrogant tone and told us "As you know this place only cost 300k so the flooring is very thin one" So what?? That doesnt mean you can make noise like that right?? I even showed them the sound recording, and promised that will buy the chair pad but they didnt!!
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Yes already did, the very first day I moved in this April, they already drag from morning till night walking nonstop dont know doing what, out of kindness, we decided to go up and talk to them nicely, what they replied was just "ok we'll try" then continue doing so.

After that one of the tenant brought guest over. they were like keep dragging the chair I dont know why, I went up around 3AM and their door was open wide and chit chatting loudly there.

But after numerous of complaints, they're still like that. Management also cant do anything, what management told us was "We already told them not to make noise, if they're doing still, what more can we do?"

I even met with their owner, turns out to be their friend, with super arrogant tone and told us "As you know this place only cost 300k so the flooring is very thin one" So what?? That doesnt mean you can make noise like that right?? I even showed them the sound recording, and promised that will buy the chair pad but they didnt!!
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If you say until vacuuming also neighbour or top/bottom fella can hear then it’s really a shitty situation la. Because it’s just vacuum and its not even loud, like that already disturb neighbour, i open my speakers louder then a vacuum sound on a daily basis.

So yeah, you’re basically shit out of luck if the neighbour above is not civilized. But don’t think it’s all dreamy for landed house also, at least a good location semi-d/bungalow.

If its just a typical linked house, also 2x5 la, hugely depends on neighbour, your toilet, rooms, living area is just seperated by a 6inch~ thick wall, right beside you left and right.
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QUOTE(NekoMomo @ Oct 8 2021, 10:59 AM)
Yes already did, the very first day I moved in this April, they already drag from morning till night walking nonstop dont know doing what, out of kindness, we decided to go up and talk to them nicely, what they replied was just "ok we'll try" then continue doing so.

After that one of the tenant brought guest over. they were like keep dragging the chair I dont know why, I went up around 3AM and their door was open wide and chit chatting loudly there.

But after numerous of complaints, they're still like that. Management also cant do anything, what management told us was "We already told them not to make noise, if they're doing still, what more can we do?"

I even met with their owner, turns out to be their friend, with super arrogant tone and told us "As you know this place only cost 300k so the flooring is very thin one" So what?? That doesnt mean you can make noise like that right?? I even showed them the sound recording, and promised that will buy the chair pad but they didnt!!
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Then I think the flooring is really thin. Try to move to other place. If possible find with empty unit above.
Or some unit owner will come once in a while. You are lucky if you get such unit on top.

And try to avoid agreement that is 1 year fixed contract. Meaning you have to forfeit your deposit if you move out within the year. Sometimes the house got problem that's why they implement such a term.

Try to find for contracts that give you one or two months notice. With that, you can move out easily. Deposit will be given back.

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To be fair you can't expect your neighbours to tip toe around their apartment just to please you. If normal activities like pulling a chair to sit on or get up, walking, vacuuming, opening and closing doors and kids playing disturbs you, you may be extra sensitive to noise and not suited to staying in an apartment. Not everybody sleeps at 12.00am. It doesn't help that many apartment walls and floors are very thin now. If your neighbour makes noise intentionally to annoy you, you have a case but if they are just going about their normal activities your complaint will fall on deaf ears because what else can they do? To them they are just behaving normally.

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similar experience here when move into high rise unit:
at some point of the time, i will hear "dragging" sound from my upper unit.
the "Dragging" sound will happen for an extend of time, initially i was really annoyed and puzzled , like, what the heck is the upper unit doing.

until myself start vacuum my own unit , then only realize the similarity, that dragging sound is high chance from the vacuum machine head's wheel , moving around the floor, just that the vacuum sound do not reach me (all our unit comes with wood floor layer), most likely vacuum sound is not loud enough to penetrate the floor when compare to wheel dragging against the floor.

no reason to complain for my case , unless the noise start like , early morning 1 am or 2 am like that
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QUOTE(kluseng @ Oct 8 2021, 04:59 PM)
To be fair you can't expect your neighbours to tip toe around their apartment just to please you. If normal activities like pulling a chair to sit on or get up, walking, vacuuming, opening and closing doors and kids playing disturbs you, you may be extra sensitive to noise and not suited to staying in an apartment. Not everybody sleeps at 12.00am. It doesn't help that many apartment walls and floors are very thin now. If your neighbour makes noise intentionally to annoy you, you have a case but if they are just going about their normal activities your complaint will fall on deaf ears because what else can they do? To them they are just behaving normally.
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We need more people who think like this. Many people will be surprised to know how noisy they themselves are just by going about doing normal routines.
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QUOTE(kluseng @ Oct 8 2021, 04:59 PM)
To be fair you can't expect your neighbours to tip toe around their apartment just to please you. If normal activities like pulling a chair to sit on or get up, walking, vacuuming, opening and closing doors and kids playing disturbs you, you may be extra sensitive to noise and not suited to staying in an apartment. Not everybody sleeps at 12.00am. It doesn't help that many apartment walls and floors are very thin now. If your neighbour makes noise intentionally to annoy you, you have a case but if they are just going about their normal activities your complaint will fall on deaf ears because what else can they do? To them they are just behaving normally.
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So by right, people playing loud music or kids jumping, banging, running and stomping past midnight when people are trying to sleep is okay to you? It may be their normal behavior but when this behavior intrudes with other people’s peace and quiet, than they’re just being assholes. Apartments mean communal living so people should respect their neighbors and take heed of the complaints. We’re not staying here for free.

Fine, the vacuum and pulling of chairs is every day noise but if someone already complained about the dragging of chairs, a sane and normal person, who cares about others, would try to improve and minimize the noise. Not keep on dragging and annoying others to the point it affects their mental health.

I hate lame excuses like this…just reminds me that Malaysian’s standards are below the bar because they are too selfish and only care about themselves.
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No. This will damage the structure for long term.
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If you say until vacuuming also neighbour or top/bottom fella can hear then it’s really a shitty situation la. Because it’s just vacuum and its not even loud, like that already disturb neighbour, i open my speakers louder then a vacuum sound on a daily basis.

So yeah, you’re basically shit out of luck if the neighbour above is not civilized. But don’t think it’s all dreamy for landed house also, at least a good location semi-d/bungalow.

If its just a typical linked house, also 2x5 la, hugely depends on neighbour, your toilet, rooms, living area is just seperated by a 6inch~ thick wall, right beside you left and right.
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Yes they're just not civilized people, among other neighbours, they are the only one who do not sleep early and started to be so active at night, even banging nonstop the yard door for dont know what reason.

If you say vacuum during daytime ok la, why the hell do you need to vacuum from 12am onwards? sometimes 1am? You don't want to sleep doesnt mean you can disturb other people. Somemore it is so quiet at night, even tho it is not extremely loud but you can still hear the engine noise. How to sleep like that, Kik Kok Kik Kok hitting the walls all.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Oct 9 2021, 06:12 PM)
We need more people who think like this. Many people will be surprised to know how noisy they themselves are just by going about doing normal routines.
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LOLLLLL, so meaning I can simply just make noise by doing my "NORMAL ROUTINES" despite I'm disturbing other neighbors?
Even tho ur not asleep yet , I can also constantly making irritating noise to you? I drag my chair every 20 seconds to you la ok?
Lol , this is some kind of brand new mindset to me. I think people usually comment like this are the ones that making noise.
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QUOTE(sammm33 @ Oct 9 2021, 06:03 PM)
similar experience here when move into high rise unit:
at some point of the time, i will hear "dragging" sound from my upper unit.
the "Dragging" sound will happen for an extend of time, initially i was really annoyed and puzzled , like, what the heck is the upper unit doing.

until myself start vacuum my own unit , then only realize the similarity, that dragging sound is high chance from the vacuum machine head's wheel , moving around the floor, just that the vacuum sound do not reach me (all our unit comes with wood floor layer), most likely vacuum sound is not loud enough to penetrate the floor when compare to wheel dragging against the floor.

no reason to complain for my case , unless the noise start like , early morning 1 am or 2 am like that
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So if i want to sleep around 11pm how? They start to make noise around 10 or 11pm then till late night 1am.
Vacuum and mopping the floor 12am onwards? WHY? It's not like they working outside or what, they're home 24-7.

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QUOTE(NekoMomo @ Oct 8 2021, 10:54 AM)
Exactly!! I'm so sick of the chair dragging sound! Cause I got phobia from my previous neighbors who did it on purpose to us, every single night 12am onwards together with their kids, so currently this new place this 4 tenants upstairs love to drag the chair as well, I just cant! Also the loud footstep, woke me up every morning!!  bangwall.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif
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Are you even sure it's actually chair being dragged by the neighbour upstairs?

Do you know a lot of highrise make that kind of sound? Chair dragging sound, marble dropping, door slammed, footsteps... If those sound happen at around the same time and interval, then 100% likely that those sound aren't from people.
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QUOTE(NekoMomo @ Oct 10 2021, 11:37 AM)
LOLLLLL, so meaning I can simply just make noise by doing my "NORMAL ROUTINES" despite I'm disturbing other neighbors?
Even tho ur not asleep yet , I can also constantly making irritating noise to you? I drag my chair every 20 seconds to you la ok?
Lol , this is some kind of brand new mindset to me. I think people usually comment like this are the ones that making noise.
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Normal routine, darling.

It cuts both ways. People who think their neighbours are noisy are probably making as much noise as their noisy upstairs neighbours.
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Are you even sure it's actually chair being dragged by the neighbour upstairs?

Do you know a lot of highrise make that kind of sound? Chair dragging sound, marble dropping, door slammed, footsteps... If those sound happen at around the same time and interval, then 100% likely that those sound aren't from people.
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Huhhhh this another BORING ANSWER WITH POTENTIAL SCIENTIFIC STUFFS!! belum kena belum tau!!!!
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QUOTE(NekoMomo @ Oct 10 2021, 12:30 PM)
Yes they're just not civilized people, among other neighbours, they are the only one who do not sleep early and started to be so active at night, even banging nonstop the yard door for dont know what reason.

If you say vacuum during daytime ok la, why the hell do you need to vacuum from 12am onwards? sometimes 1am? You don't want to sleep doesnt mean you can disturb other people. Somemore it is so quiet at night, even tho it is not extremely loud but you can still hear the engine noise. How to sleep like that, Kik Kok Kik Kok hitting the walls all.
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Happened to me last july i attended online exam remotely from home at 10am until 12pm...the fuck my neighbours kids stomping and running around... So fucking loud and lastly i failed the exam due to not really concentrated... You can't focus when the stomping sound in your head. I did remind my neighbours via WhatsApp but still continue. Sigh!

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Huhhhh this another BORING ANSWER WITH POTENTIAL SCIENTIFIC STUFFS!! belum kena belum tau!!!!
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eh bodoh this is a known phenomenon la. "Belum kena belum tau" bapak kau la.
I've lived in several apartments and flats during my study days. I know what it's like.

You like it or not it happens, and it's not always neighbours. I was just offering a different explanation, especially when the guy said it happens around the same time.

You tak suka you keluar. Tokok singsong here for what? Go fight with your neighbour if it bothers you so much. Sembang kari babi je on the internet for what.
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eh bodoh this is a known phenomenon la. "Belum kena belum tau" bapak kau la.
I've lived in several apartments and flats during my study days. I know what it's like.

You like it or not it happens, and it's not always neighbours. I was just offering a different explanation, especially when the guy said it happens around the same time.

You tak suka you keluar. Tokok singsong here for what? Go fight with your neighbour if it bothers you so much. Sembang kari babi je on the internet for what.
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Kasar ya bahasa sini!?
Okay. I have nothing to say here since you BANGSAt pintar and Bodoh. Sendiri sembang sup ham choi bapa kau.
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Ignore him. Really don’t understand people who come into this thread to discredit other people’s experiences.
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QUOTE(NekoMomo @ Oct 10 2021, 11:40 AM)
So if i want to sleep around 11pm how? They start to make noise around 10 or 11pm then till late night 1am.
Vacuum and mopping the floor 12am onwards? WHY? It's not like they working outside or what, they're home 24-7.
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nono for my case the dragging noise happen only around evening or late evening (after dinner time) so im good.
if this happen around like normal human sleeping time (after 11pm), i sure complain this to management.
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How do we encourage the developers to make thick floor again?

Seems like all newly built condos, even the pricier ones, are cutting costs by making the floor thin.

I think condos built around year 200x should still be fine. But later ones mostly have thin floors.
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QUOTE(sammm33 @ Oct 10 2021, 11:33 PM)
nono for my case the dragging noise happen only around evening or late evening (after dinner time) so im good.
if this happen around like normal human sleeping time (after 11pm), i sure complain this to management.
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Yes that I can accept too, cause we know it's dinner time and they're using the dining chair, but mine always happen past 10pm, it's not daily ya, but sure got few days a week. Sometimes in the bedroom sometimes in the living room, then push the chair like every 20secs to 2 minutes, it's so irritating, even daytime also, push like that for 2 hours straight. For what leh ? If u say they drag for like once a twice I can accept, but its constantly dragging up to hours.
Even tho there's no dragging noise but also noisy, dropping things walking here and there.

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QUOTE(duplicated @ Oct 11 2021, 02:56 AM)
How do we encourage the developers to make thick floor again?

Seems like all newly built condos, even the pricier ones, are cutting costs by making the floor thin.

I think condos built around year 200x should still be fine. But later ones mostly have thin floors.
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I agree, but developers just dont care, they want to build it fast and with low cost, they dont even care about parking space d (condos nowadays comes with only 1 carpark). So I doubt they will make flooring thick mega_shok.gif
So just pray that we get civilized neighbors. Like I said, we quiet people, past dinner time usually sit down watch tv or laying on bed etc, but I just dont know why some people gets so active at night, so inconsiderate.
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Ignore him. Really don’t understand people who come into this thread to discredit other people’s experiences.
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Exactly, just ignore them, not only they discredit us, they clearly didnt even read my previous post smile.gif dahlah, susah nak explain this kind of situation to people who never experience it. Dont tell me I couldnt differentiate human noise vs piping / other phenomenon sound lor. I even confronted my upstairs neighbor, they even admitted, the guard even caught them gathering and making noise. Walao still in denial these people.
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QUOTE(NekoMomo @ Oct 11 2021, 10:37 AM)
Yes that I can accept too, cause we know it's dinner time and they're using the dining chair, but mine always happen past 10pm, it's not daily ya, but sure got few days a week. Sometimes in the bedroom sometimes in the living room, then push the chair like every 20secs to 2 minutes, it's so irritating, even daytime also, push like that for 2 hours straight. For what leh ? If u say they drag for like once a twice I can accept, but its constantly dragging up to hours.
Even tho there's no dragging noise but also noisy, dropping things walking here and there.

Already complaint but useless  dry.gif
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Ok that really sxxks…
Any chance to take a peak and get to know what is happening over there especially after late night ?
Is it possible that this is kids playing around ?
Don't think is vacuum cuz 2 hours is way too long , and timing also too weird to do cleaning...
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Just purchase the stick on stickers for furniture and give it FOC to your neighbours complimentary. Ask them to stick onto the legs of the chairs.
They will get the message and (hopefully) they will realize,
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QUOTE(NekoMomo @ Oct 11 2021, 10:39 AM)
I agree, but developers just dont care, they want to build it fast and with low cost, they dont even care about parking space d (condos nowadays comes with only 1 carpark). So I doubt they will make flooring thick  mega_shok.gif
So just pray that we get civilized neighbors. Like I said, we quiet people, past dinner time usually sit down watch tv or laying on bed etc, but I just dont know why some people gets so active at night, so inconsiderate.
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Sometimes there's this kind of people, MR DIY kind of guy. He cannot sit quietly, he has to do something, hammering the wall, doing some DIY stuff all the time.
If you get this kind of guy as your upstairs neighbor then you are really unlucky.

Another kind is those who do online business. So they will prepare the parcels, goods arriving, arranging goods, assembling goods, etc. So, expect a lot of noise from these guys constantly.
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QUOTE(NekoMomo @ Oct 11 2021, 10:43 AM)
Exactly, just ignore them, not only they discredit us, they clearly didnt even read my previous post smile.gif dahlah, susah nak explain this kind of situation to people who never experience it. Dont tell me I couldnt differentiate human noise vs piping / other phenomenon sound lor. I even confronted my upstairs neighbor, they even admitted, the guard even caught them gathering and making noise. Walao still in denial these people.
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Exactly…me thinks that person is one of those noisy mofos who like to bother other people. Of course we would know the difference between inconsiderate motherfuckers acting like monkeys in their units vs piping/structural noises. Always making excuses for their kind - low class and low EQ…god help them.

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QUOTE(Luciferus @ Oct 10 2021, 04:48 PM)
my area landed house all civilized. no noise. of course elite areas la. i think rude and noisy neighbors happen at m40 and b40 areas. elite t20 people enjoy peace and quiet so we respect each other.
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I agree with this, actually. T20 are mostly educated people with busy working lives, thus they require peace and quiet. When I stayed overseas and in high class areas, never had any noise issues. Only having an issue now staying in a m40/b40 area - I regret everyday buying this stupid place just because it’s close to the city centre.

Moral of the story is…make sure you buy a place above RM1mil to avoid low class and rude lowlifes.

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i have similar problem too but not the chair...it is the elephant lady ><
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How do we encourage the developers to make thick floor again?

Seems like all newly built condos, even the pricier ones, are cutting costs by making the floor thin.

I think condos built around year 200x should still be fine. But later ones mostly have thin floors.
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I definitely think you're right. I've lived in condos and apartments since my student days from 2003 and have never experienced this kind of noise until I bought my own condo and am losing sleep almost daily. Confronted neighbor upstairs so many times and they'd be quiet for a few days after the complaint and then start to get noisy again. And later when I confronted them again they said it's not them and continues to make noise. If I go to bed around 12am and managed to fall asleep quick then it's fine. They usually start their going to bed activities around 1am and God forbid if I also start going to bed close to 1am I'd be hearing all kinds of foot stomping, door slamming x5 at least, toilet flushing etc ughhhhh
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Also, I've measured my ceiling heights of my living room vs bedroom because the noise is a lot more prominent in the bedroom.

What I found was the bedroom floor to ceiling is 5cm (or 2 inches) MORE than the living room floor to ceiling height. The entire floor surface is flat from living to bedroom. So if my understanding is right, the bedroom ceiling (or my upstairs floor) is 2 inches thinner. Seriously that is a LOT of thickness being sacrificed for unknown reasons
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QUOTE(mataharih @ Oct 11 2021, 04:32 PM)
I agree with this, actually. T20 are mostly educated people with busy working lives, thus they require peace and quiet. When I stayed overseas and in high class areas, never had any noise issues. Only having an issue now staying in a m40/b40 area - I regret everyday buying this stupid place just because it’s close to the city centre.

Moral of the story is…make sure you buy a place above RM1mil to avoid low class and rude lowlifes.
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Probably true, but hard to relate cause i stay in landed my entire life...
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Also, I've measured my ceiling heights of my living room vs bedroom because the noise is a lot more prominent in the bedroom.

What I found was the bedroom floor to ceiling is 5cm (or 2 inches) MORE than the living room floor to ceiling height. The entire floor surface is flat from living to bedroom. So if my understanding is right, the bedroom ceiling (or my upstairs floor) is 2 inches thinner. Seriously that is a LOT of thickness being sacrificed for unknown reasons
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If it bothers you that much, look into soundproofing your ceiling. Reckon it wont cost much, i stay in landed, i even invested to sound proof my windows.
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QUOTE(mataharih @ Oct 11 2021, 04:32 PM)
I agree with this, actually. T20 are mostly educated people with busy working lives, thus they require peace and quiet. When I stayed overseas and in high class areas, never had any noise issues. Only having an issue now staying in a m40/b40 area - I regret everyday buying this stupid place just because it’s close to the city centre.

Moral of the story is…make sure you buy a place above RM1mil to avoid low class and rude lowlifes.
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This is very true. It's all about civic consciousness. You don't ever see T20 ppl throwing curries out their windows.
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QUOTE(HP Computer @ Oct 12 2021, 09:34 AM)
i have similar problem too but not the chair...it is the elephant lady ><
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Oh I'm currently like you now.... previous sub-tenants had moved out, now no more chair dragging noise cause they buy chair socks d.
But this new tenant, very young, very skinny, but walking like king kong seriously no joke.
She moved in for 2 weeks only, everyday I woke up by her footsteps, around 5-6am, or when she comes back late 2am...
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QUOTE(NekoMomo @ Nov 18 2021, 08:38 PM)
Oh I'm currently like you now.... previous sub-tenants had moved out, now no more chair dragging noise cause they buy chair socks d.
But this new tenant, very young, very skinny, but walking like king kong seriously no joke.
She moved in for 2 weeks only, everyday I woke up by her footsteps, around 5-6am, or when she comes back late 2am...
really mtfk  ranting.gif
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You will probably be ignored. People are not expected to tip toe around just to make you happy. Have you thought that the problem may be that you are too sensitive to noise?


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post Nov 19 2021, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Nov 18 2021, 11:25 PM)
You will probably be ignored. People are not expected to tip toe around just to make you happy. Have you thought that the problem may be that you are too sensitive to noise?
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I just wonder la, if I was waken up by the heavy footsteps from my deep sleep, is it because im being too sensitive? Or is it they're being too loud? Not asking you to tip toe, but why walking so much in the middle of the night, when it's so quiet? And why using all your strength to just walk? It's not any of the time during daytime but it's in the middle of the night.
Those footsteps noise is like people using a rubber hammer and constantly hacking on the floor it goes 'bom bom bom bom bom", you get what i mean?
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post Oct 24 2022, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(NekoMomo @ Nov 19 2021, 10:17 AM)
I just wonder la, if I was waken up by the heavy footsteps from my deep sleep, is it because im being too sensitive? Or is it they're being too loud? Not asking you to tip toe, but why walking so much in the middle of the night, when it's so quiet? And why using all your strength to just walk? It's not any of the time during daytime but it's in the middle of the night.
Those footsteps noise is like people using a rubber hammer and constantly hacking on the floor it goes 'bom bom bom bom bom", you get what i mean?
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Exactly the same situation now. The kids running and jumping early in the morning and randomly at day time. Then 6pm to 10 pm, basically running, jumping, dragging things, dropping things.

After few complaints, the upstairs came to bang my door at night yelled at me that he tahan me for long time, thus shouted at me with vulgar language. Yet he repeats it more vigorously after this.

This is how Malaysian behave nowadays

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post Oct 25 2022, 11:28 AM

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Are u owner or tenant?
If the later, just move out to a landed unit after your period is over. The noise in high rise is never ending.

 

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