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 Korang melayu percaya ke saka hantu etc?

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Imp Bron
post Jun 6 2021, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(drumstix @ Jun 6 2021, 05:03 PM)
Org Melayu boleh passing saka kepada org Cina x?

Soalan serius
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Tak boleh bro, lain bangsa lain hantunya

Orang melayu hantu melayu, orang cina hantu cina, orang Bangla hantu bangla
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post Jun 6 2021, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(dunkdie @ Jun 6 2021, 05:30 PM)
I was a sceptic. Then my wife kena. Despite not believing, I brought her to perubatan islam as to her request. After 3 visits she's ok but I still didnt believe, secretly thought that shes having a mental disorder of some sort..

So I decided to learn the perubatan islam myself from one of the so-called healers, just to prove that this is all BS.

Boy I was very wrong..
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What happened to your wife, she kena what?
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post Jun 6 2021, 05:36 PM

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No it's annoying when a person has an unexplained illness coz doctor hospital biasa biasa cannot diagnosis properly tetiba family say kena bomoh... take that ill person pigi bom9h end up mati coz bomoh say ill person kena bomoh orang apabende, so berubat dgn dia jer tak usaha pigi hospital pakar or whatnot.... buduh!!!
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post Jun 6 2021, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Jun 6 2021, 05:33 PM)
What happened to your wife, she kena what?
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She was a having episodes of panic attack after asr till she goes to sleep, and she would be depressed throughout the day, to me it was just like a typical behaviour when someone is not right somewhere in their head (mental illness).

That escalated to constant arguements till she cant even stand to be near me.

It was not a saka lah..some sort of sihir pemisah. But honestly I didnt believe that kind of stuff, not even after she is ok. Only after I decided to learn the healing crafts myself I am convinced that such things do exist.


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post Jun 6 2021, 05:40 PM

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post Jun 6 2021, 05:42 PM

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But to each his own, I wont force anyone to believe because such thing is not logical πŸ˜…
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post Jun 6 2021, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(grumpydrive @ Jun 6 2021, 05:36 PM)
No it's annoying when a person has an unexplained illness coz doctor hospital biasa biasa cannot diagnosis properly tetiba family say kena bomoh... take that ill person pigi bom9h end up mati coz bomoh say ill person kena bomoh orang apabende, so berubat dgn dia jer tak usaha pigi hospital pakar or whatnot.... buduh!!!
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Couldn't agree more. If got undetected illness should meet multiple doctors to find the root cause. If you meet heart specialist he can't detect anything, go other specialist like lung specialist or brain specialist for example. Ask for 2nd 3rd opinions. Once you go to bomoh then journey end there. Bomoh will always claim they know and blame it on jin. The illness the goes untreated and huge time wasted on that bomoh if not should be used to find other specialist. Should never visit bomoh
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post Jun 6 2021, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Jun 6 2021, 12:49 PM)
Have a relative send their daughter to Rukyah 3 years nothin happen. After that they fed up send to hospital doctor diagnosed Schizo 1 week take medicine already  ok.

So now I don't believe in those "gangguan jin" anymore. Most likely just be undiagnosed hallucination and delusion.
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Schizo or whatever mental problem memang la rukyah tak boleh settle bro
Ke your cousin family in denial till wait for 3 years
When my mom having depression + anxiety we seek for both doctors and ustaz opinion
Ustaz because my mom in denial, so my family layan la what she want
After meet 2 ustaz, both also ask to take medicine πŸ˜…πŸ˜…
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post Jun 6 2021, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Jun 6 2021, 12:32 PM)
I believe in jin. No issue. But can see them can have them, no. I dont.
Wtf is saka? Saka tu jin ke? Hantu? Budak2 silat ckp boleh nampak la tinggi klcc, kaki panjang bulu panjang... Fuck that. Benda ghaib pesal korang boleh nampak.

So bila sakit, suh g jumpa doc, i t could many reason, ini tak rasa berat la rasa ade gangguan la.

Kalo ade sakit jantung camne.
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benda ghaib ni, ada org boleh nampak/dibuka hijab, contoh sahabat nabi, nampak kaum jin dtg ngadap Nabi utk belajar pasal Islam.
saka is real, kalau ada family yg pernah kena, dia tau la mcm mana
saka ni cabang ilmu hitam, antara dosa paling besar dlm Islam, sbb menyekutukan Allah

point dia, benda ghaib ni wujud, and as muslim, kita kena percaya
kalau saka/santau/ilmu hitam ni tak wujud,
Nabi xkan ajar cara penyembuhan menggunakan ayat Quran,
Nabi xkan suruh kita amalkan ayat2 pelindung
Dalam Quran pun xkan ada surah yg menceritakan pasal "wanita yang tiup pada simpulan"

tak kisah la apa pun, kena ingat satu je, jgn pergi jumpa bomoh, jatuh syirik tak pasal
pergi la pusat rawatan yg menggunakan ayat2 quran utk penyembuhan
even pusat2 rawatan tu pun akan suruh kau pergi klinik or hospital dulu


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post Jun 6 2021, 05:46 PM

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post Jun 6 2021, 05:48 PM

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post Jun 6 2021, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(AyamBannedTwice @ Jun 6 2021, 05:44 PM)
Schizo or whatever mental problem memang la rukyah tak boleh settle bro
Ke your cousin family in denial till wait for 3 years
When my mom having depression + anxiety we seek for both doctors and ustaz opinion
Ustaz because my mom in denial, so my family layan la what she want
After meet 2 ustaz, both also ask to take medicine πŸ˜…πŸ˜…
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True bro. That's what happen. Because they so sure it's gangguan jin and never ever heard of Schizophrenia. If you ask random Malay probability they know about schizophrenia is too damn low. If they ustaz know about schizophrenia why they continue treating the patient? Isn't that scamming

It's like homeopathy seller sell products to cancer patients to treat them cancer despite knowing it won't do shit
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post Jun 6 2021, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Jun 6 2021, 12:49 PM)
Have a relative send their daughter to Rukyah 3 years nothin happen. After that they fed up send to hospital doctor diagnosed Schizo 1 week take medicine alreadyΒ  ok.

So now I don't believe in those "gangguan jin" anymore. Most likely just be undiagnosed hallucination and delusion.
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happened to my MIL
almost 2 month dr cannot tell what cause her sickness
warded & icu many times

so family decided to went to a few perubatan islam
1st ustaz told us nothing abnormal, charge NIL
2nd ustaz, the famous one, charge thousands, told us her neighbour santau angin her with multiple jin - RED FLAG
3rd ustaz, from famous pusat perubatan islam, charge NIL, told us someone sent her something but he did not mention who, just told use to find a few things placed in specific places in our MIL house, and dispose it
we did found all the things and disposed it

1st & 3rd ustaz asked if we already check with hospital/klinik before the treatment, 2nd ustaz asked none brows.gif

days later my MIL getting better and now back to normal
and the dr still cannot conclude the causes laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Jun 6 2021, 05:50 PM)
True bro. That's what happen. Because they so sure it's  gangguan jin and never ever heard of Schizophrenia. If you ask random Malay probability they know about schizophrenia is too damn low. If they ustaz know about schizophrenia why they continue treating the patient? Isn't that scamming

It's like homeopathy seller sell products to cancer patients to treat them cancer despite knowing it won't do shit
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For me, not an issue at all to seek both doctors and ustaz opinions
But have to look for ustaz background first la
Because ayam engaged with those ustaz who having professional work
1 is Bank senior manager, another 1 is lecturer at local university πŸ˜…πŸ˜…


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post Jun 6 2021, 05:54 PM

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It's all fun and games until you experience sendiri, these things exist.

If you believe in tuhan then these thing called hantu should be in your belief too else you're just a plain hypocrite.
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post Jun 6 2021, 05:57 PM

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it exists. i brought someone dear to darul syifa and experience myself
its been told in quran. just how u interpret and believe is the issue

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post Jun 6 2021, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(dunkdie @ Jun 6 2021, 05:40 PM)
She was a having episodes of panic attack after asr till she goes to sleep, and she would be depressed throughout the day, to me it was just like a typical behaviour when someone is not right somewhere in their head (mental illness).

That escalated to constant arguements till she cant even stand to be near me.

It was not a saka lah..some sort of sihir pemisah. But honestly I didnt believe that kind of stuff, not even after she is ok. Only after I decided to learn the healing crafts myself I am convinced that such things do exist.
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Healing craft like what? Recite or Rukyah? Throwing salt and black peppers on the walls and ceiling? Mandi daun bidara? I think all of that are nothing more than placebo effect. Placebo effect is good if it's work but not safe to rely on it 100% because the root cause of her illness is not fixed
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post Jun 6 2021, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(Noryume @ Jun 6 2021, 05:30 PM)
I was involved in those things because following my brother. But I'm more inclined to say all that I've seen is mental issue. We been feeding the patient with it and the patient believe it. And when going to this ustaz, the placebos effect cure the patient. That my conclusion. Video in socmed also shows people possess look like mental patient to me. Your friend claim he saw kids climbing walls and not record it.  doh.gif
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So how did you come to the conclusion that they were all mental? Mind sharing what you saw? Perhaps they really were, you may even be right there. There's definitely a possibility of patients who are fed all sorts of supernatural theories that they end up overwhelmed and just believe everything as a matter of convenience. But, I'm on the side that also believes other forces may be at work, especially when doctors are also left dumbfounded.

About my friend, he was scared shitless so to speak, you think he'd be composed enough to take out his phone and hit record? He's not the type who's obsessed with sharing stuff for likes / fame, like I told you. In addition to that, there's a level of respect and privacy for patients, what you think the parents are just going to allow him to record everything and share it online?
Any parent would probably tell him to GTFO, unless you're a direct family member.

Even then everyone would probably have the decency to keep their phones away, it's not something you'd willingly share with people is it? They're there to help, not document everything. Which is why I keep coming back to my original point, go experience it for yourself, the hardcore cases in particular.
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QUOTE(Zanei Gundan @ Jun 6 2021, 04:42 PM)
ini sampai kiamat pun tak habis sembang bro
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btul btul.

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yes. i even believe in ufo, unicorns and flying pigs.

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