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post Jun 12 2021, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 12 2021, 03:36 PM)
Plus Dolby Atmos and Imax Enhanced support, as well as voice control. Apparently it's VIDAA Voice.

Interesting. The price for the 8K TV is way over the price of their laser projector set, which comes with an ALR screen.

If that's their pricing structure, Hisense Malaysia has put themselves in the same league as LG, Panasonic, Samsung and Sony but with nothing to back it up.

Their brand is about value for money. Pricing the U series like that is overestimating their perceived value, especially when neither of the Malaysian versions of the U7G and the U8G have the same specs as the US versions. Even the U900KF is more than the Australian version at RM22,300.

They are missing the chance in capturing the market share, the mind share and establishing themselves here. Seems like everybody in the management teams of Hisense, TCL and Mi felt overconfident in 2021. Or is it because the same big companies that distributes all of our TVs are owned by the same small group of people (therefore avoiding market cannibalization)?

Here's the pricing structure for the U series that Hisense Malaysia should have made that would benefit them and consumers.
U8G 65" - MSRP US is $1300. Malaysia's price should be RM5,500-6,000.
U7G 65" - MSRP US is $1000. About RM4,200-4,500.
U6G 65" - MSRP US is $750. About RM3,200-3,500.
Keep the specs the same AND make it Android, not VIDAA. We're already paying more. At these prices and with all the features, they would run out quickly every month.

I'm not holding my breath on that.
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Hope hisense will launch U7G 65v soon . Cant wait for it . biggrin.gif

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post Jun 14 2021, 11:56 AM

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Messaged Hisense Malaysia via FB confirmed that U7G in Malaysia is a totally different model from the one offered in US. Only 60Hz panel with HDMI 2.0, not the one we hoped for.

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post Jun 14 2021, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Jellyjian @ Jun 14 2021, 11:56 AM)
Messaged Hisense Malaysia via FB confirmed that U7G in Malaysia is a totally different model from the one offered in US. Only 60Hz panel with HDMI 2.0, not the one we hoped for.
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What you expected ?
Is clearly noted when this thread started.
Even Android model is degradeted from A7400F to A6500G.

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post Jun 14 2021, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 14 2021, 12:03 PM)
What you expected ?
Is clearly noted when this thread started.
Clearly?

So you have communicated with Hisense Malaysia/HQ and asked them about the actual specs of the U7G for Malaysia? And gotten responses from them? And kept it a secret?

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Even Android model is degradeted from A7400F to A6500G.
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I don't know why Hisense Malaysia's marketing is really bad at marketing. But as of today, the Android version of the A6500G is the same as the A7400F, based on their website. Android 9.0 Pie. Click on the Specs tab.

QUOTE(Jellyjian @ Jun 14 2021, 11:56 AM)
Messaged Hisense Malaysia via FB confirmed that U7G in Malaysia is a totally different model from the one offered in US. Only 60Hz panel with HDMI 2.0, not the one we hoped for.
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You can infer from Hisense Thailand about the U7G versions. Here's their U7G version. While it does confirm a 60Hz panel and 700 nits brightness, they get HDMI 2.1.

As it is right now, it's better to wait until July when the U7G arrives in stores. Hisense Malaysia's marketing department is a mess. I don't know if Hisense Thailand is any better but at least they have the updated version of the U800QF.

While we won't get the US version of the U8G, RTings.com has given it a solid 8.4 in its review.
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post Jun 15 2021, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 14 2021, 02:44 PM)
While it does confirm a 60Hz panel and 700 nits brightness, they get HDMI 2.1.

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What is the purpose of HDMI 2.1 for TV running on 60hz ?

The whole idea of HDMI 2.1 is to support 4K 120 fps content with additional features .

But VRR , ALLM , QMS or even eARC are not exclusive to HDMI 2.1 , they have exist on Samsung and Panasonic TV since HDMI 2.0 .


If they refuse to implement it within the current HDMI 2.0 , it means they don't want to do it . It has nothing to do with regional spec , even if it has HDMI 2.1 it is still a complete waste of resource .



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While we won't get the US version of the U8G, RTings.com has given it a solid 8.4 in its review.


Because they are a review website which gives priority to price tag . Which is exactly what Hisense is about , Cheap price , Cheap Picture Quality .

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post Jun 15 2021, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 15 2021, 07:55 AM)
What is the purpose of HDMI 2.1 for TV running on 60hz ?

The whole idea of HDMI 2.1 is to support 4K 120 fps content with additional features .

But VRR , ALLM , QMS or even eARC are not exclusive to HDMI 2.1  , they have exist on Samsung and Panasonic  TV since HDMI 2.0 .
If they refuse to implement it within the current HDMI 2.0 , it means they don't want to do it . It has nothing to do with regional spec , even if it has HDMI 2.1 it is still a complete waste of resource .
Because they are a review website which gives priority to price tag . Which is exactly what Hisense is about , Cheap price , Cheap Picture Quality .
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Hi Convael,

What would you suggest for RM5k budget for a 65 inch TV now?

Its kind of hard to ignore the specifications Hisense offer for the price point. But I understand from your previous posts, high specifications doesn't necessarily means better picture quality.

It's a shame that TCL don't bring their better models here...

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post Jun 15 2021, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(Jellyjian @ Jun 15 2021, 08:35 PM)
Hi Convael,

What would you suggest for RM5k budget for a 65 inch TV now?

Its kind of hard to ignore the specifications Hisense offer for the price point. But I understand from your previous posts, high specifications doesn't necessarily means better picture quality.

It's a shame that TCL don't bring their better models here...
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If you have 5k+- to spare , Sony's 65" X90H is still the best bang for your bucks .


Or if you can wait , the newly released 2021 model - X90J will eventually drop to the below 6k .


There are going to be more affordable , 60 HZ OLED TV coming out in the next couple of months as well .
Depend on the pricing , that may also end up to be another spectacular purchase for your wallet .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 15 2021, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 15 2021, 10:03 PM)
If you have 5k+-  to spare , Sony's 65" X90H is still the best bang for your bucks .
Or if you can wait , the newly released 2021 model - X90J will eventually drop to the below 6k .
There are going to be more affordable , 60 HZ OLED TV coming out in the next couple of months as well .
Depend on the pricing , that may also end up to be another spectacular purchase for your wallet .
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Hi,
Need your advise on this also.. between the newly released panasonic 65JX800 and the sony 65 X90J, which one will be a better choice? Tq
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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 15 2021, 10:03 PM)
If you have 5k+-  to spare , Sony's 65" X90H is still the best bang for your bucks .
Or if you can wait , the newly released 2021 model - X90J will eventually drop to the below 6k .
There are going to be more affordable , 60 HZ OLED TV coming out in the next couple of months as well .
Depend on the pricing , that may also end up to be another spectacular purchase for your wallet .
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I see.. will wait for them to be on sales then.

Those 60Hz OLED TVs are from which brand? Will look up on it if it's launched.

Thank you for your advice.
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QUOTE(Jellyjian @ Jun 15 2021, 11:21 PM)
I see.. will wait for them to be on sales then.

Those 60Hz OLED TVs are from which brand? Will look up on it if it's launched.

Thank you for your advice.
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Should be LG A1 series.
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QUOTE(mikhaC @ Jun 15 2021, 10:59 PM)
Hi,
Need your advise on this also.. between the newly released panasonic 65JX800 and the sony 65 X90J, which one will be a better choice? Tq
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X90J is better , simply because 120 hz > 60 hz . Assuming they are in the same price bracket , of course .

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post Jun 17 2021, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 17 2021, 12:57 PM)
X90J is better , simply because 120 hz > 60 hz . Assuming they are in the same price bracket , of course .
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Boss, need some advise, is it wrth to get Sony A8H or just wait for A80J price reduce? MYR8000 plus for A8H really cannot tahan.
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post Jun 18 2021, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(Topet @ Jun 17 2021, 08:38 PM)
Boss, need some advise, is it wrth to get Sony A8H or just wait for A80J price reduce?  MYR8000 plus for A8H really cannot tahan.
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If you are going to play the wait game again , you are going to be waiting for a very long time because A80J is fairly new .


At this point , it will come down to if you are planning to play 4k - 120 fps games on your TV .
Or planning to connect it to your PC via 4:4:4 Chroma signals .
Most people don't and most console games with 120 fps options downgrade the resolution down to 1080p .


If you don't , just buy the A8H it is still a great TV .


P/S : looks like we are off topic but if you need to ask me something feel free to tag me over Sony's Post .

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post Jun 18 2021, 02:33 PM

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Okay, found this about the U7G. It's on their news and promo page.

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I suggest wait until it arrives in stores once the MCO is over (in September?) and then compare it with the U800QF. It's not that you can pre-order now anyways. I haven't seen the item on Shopee, SenQ or Harvey Norman.

Meanwhile Hisense Thailand's UEFA 2021 promo is definitely highlighting the U8G. This video is in English.

It's about the U7G at the beginning and a fridge in the middle. It might seem that the U8G is going to come in Q3/4 2021 in Thailand.

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 18 2021, 01:49 PM)
If you are going to play the wait game again , you are going to be waiting for a very long time because A80J is fairly new .
At this point , it will come down to if you are planning to play 120 fps games on your TV .
Or planning to connect it to your PC via 4:4:4 Chroma signals .
Most people don't and most console games with 120 fps options downgrade the resolution down to 1080p  [ but still running within the 4k output so HDMI 2.1 is still required ].
If you don't , just buy the A8H it is still a great TV .
P/S : looks like we are off topic but if you need to ask me something feel free to tag me over Sony's Post .
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I don't really play game nowadays. Purely for watching movies, thanks for the input.
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post Jun 19 2021, 01:37 PM

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Anyone has any idea the 2021 U8G will it come to our country?


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QUOTE(Vannus @ Jun 19 2021, 01:37 PM)
Anyone has any idea the 2021 U8G will it come to our country?
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Nobody but Hisense Malaysia has any idea. And they're not going to tell because a) they need to push the U800QF stock out of the warehouse and b) they need to push the U900KF as their high-end model, and not the U8G. The U8G is the high-end model in Thailand and Hisense Thailand isn't selling the U900KF.

In other news, RTings.com has finally released their review of the North American U8G on Youtube. It'll probably be until Q4 before we see Hisense EU/Australia/Thailand releases the U8G international version.

Watch it only if you want to be depressed why this version is not going to be available for us ever.
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Vincent Teo reviewed the UK version of the U8G. The title tells you what he thinks.



The U8G and U8GQ are completely different TVs. It's unlikely that the UK/European Youtubers will review the U7GQ because they have the U8GQ.

The safe bet is to look at the manufacturing details. The North America U series are manufactured in Mexico. The one Vincent reviewed was manufactured in China. Hisense has a TV manufacturing plant in Czech Republic but that seems to be a small one.

Have to wait until the MCO is over before we can go to the stores and look at TVs again. But if you're desperate, the best Hisense TV for now seems to be the U800QF.
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 10 2021, 03:38 PM)
What he said. It's probably one of - if not the cheapest at RM4700 - FALD TV in the market right now. PQ is very impressive, with the QD display at supposedly 1000 nits brightness. You will need to get a new Android box that supports Dolby Vision, like the new Firestick 4K, to get Disney+ Hotstar, Amazon Prime and Netflix in 4K DV.

In other news, the A7G is gone from Hisense Malaysia's website. So I think I'll focus on if or when the U series comes to Malaysia. Otherwise there are too many "website launches" that are then revised or pulled.
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Me again!

Still couldn’t get to a store for obvious reasons...

You did ask me to consider the Philips. Found one that’s an Android, 5-55”, has 3 HDMI plus and has Dolby Vision. I’ve been following this thread and it seems that Hisense product prices are marginally lower than established name brands

What do you think?

https://www.philips.com.my/c-p/55PUT8215_68...-led-android-tv
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QUOTE(GuyB @ Jun 28 2021, 01:58 PM)
Me again!

Still couldn’t get to a store for obvious reasons...

You did ask me to consider the Philips. Found one that’s an Android, 5-55”, has 3 HDMI plus and has Dolby Vision. I’ve been following this thread and it seems that Hisense product prices are marginally lower than established name brands

What do you think?

https://www.philips.com.my/c-p/55PUT8215_68...-led-android-tv
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Just note that Micro Dimming is not the same as Full Array Local Dimming.

If that fits your budget, it's the size you want and it has the features that you want, then that's the right one. But I would wait until you can get to the store and see one in person. Unless you really can't wait.



On separate news, Hisense Malaysia has created a form on Google Docs for people to pre-order the U7G.

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Here is the link.
RM4,600 for the 65" with a RM200 TnG reload. RM3,400 for the 55" with a RM100 TnG reload. TnG on first-come, first-served basiss. Pre-order period is July 1 to 15. TV is coming after that, I guess.




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