How sure you are about the MY U7G is equivalent to A7G in the comparision?

https://hisense.co.uk/tvs/all-tvs/a7g/
The official website states A7G has no local dimming, 3 x HDMI 2.1; it's diffrent from the displayspecification.com info.

Really confusig, i dont think A7G has 3 x HDMI 2.1

This post has been edited by pcteck19: Jun 7 2021, 01:44 PM

This post is not directed to pcteck in any way. Just to join in his/her chat with kananthen.

I'm sure UK people who want to compare the US and UK versions are frustrated about this inconsistency. Me included. I tried to look for the UK's A7G manual. It led to the page for the A6G manual.

Also, the US U7G page/spec sheet doesn't list eARC yet the manual says it does have eARC. So not everything is listed, like the dimming zones for the 65" U7G's spec sheet is 90, not 70 as listed on DisplaySpecifications.com. I think 70 zones is for the 55", and 90 for the 65" and 75" versions.

Malaysia's site doesn't have downloadable PDFs for anything.

I don't think the UK A7G is the same as the U7G USA/Malaysia. I don't know if the U7G USA is the same as the Malaysian version. Until they launch, all we can do is wait before comparing. So maybe the lesson here is to not trust the info on DisplaySpecifications.com until maybe six months after the products have launched.


This is from Hisense Malaysia's Instagram. The reply about the U7G means they do have somebody managing their social media. But the pic has the U7 and U8 shown, and that's not the U800QF. The base stand on the U8 is different too.

Where did you find that image? Jaya Jusco and Harvey Norman are authorized dealers that I know of. Check the interactive dealers list here.

U7G RM4600 with a RM200 TNG credit is a good deal for a 65" FALD. If you're iffy, obviously wait to see it in person at stores once the MCO is over in July.

Nah , Hisense UK is just plain wrong.

And not because of the difference of model from different country , they are just wrong .



If you have Quantum Dots , you have WCG .
Yet they still list the WCG as absent in the spec sheets , among other oddities .


One thing that can be sure since all of Hisense 2021 tv is straying away from EOTF , which means their real life performance is going to be worse than entry level TV from big brands .

Clearly shown in the comparison thread I have made from previous page .


Now , I am just waiting for someone to tell me Hisense from different country will use different PQ EOTF standard

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 7 2021, 04:46 PM

So Hisense Malaysia has just announced their 2021-22 lineup. No U8G. Download the 2021-22 PDF brochure here.

Top of the line is the Laser TV 100L5F still. It looks like the same model as the last two years.

Next is the U900KF. I believe this is actually the 75" 8K model they intended to market in 2020. It was listed in last year's brochure.

Third in line is the U7G.


After that is the A7G. Only in 75" and 85". QD. WCG. 3 x HDMI 2.0 (like the UK version). ALLM. VRR. Local dimming in the spec sheet, Ultra dimming in the slide; and no local dimming in the brochure.

And after that, is the lower end SKUs.

The fact that the U8G is not coming is very disappointing.

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Whoever is doing the marketing there is either not competent at their job or is getting screwed by their boss. Both the website and the brochure are affected by this.

1) The product spec sheets are all over the place from year to year. The U900KF is labelled FALD in 2021's brochure while just having LD in 2020's brochure. The communication is inconsistent.

2) ULED is the second section in the 2020-2022 brochure. Yet in both years, there's only two products that have U in their name and the U900KF is listed in both years. 2 SKUs for both years doesn't make for a strong product feature.

3) The local dimming zone numbers are intentionally vague. The U800QF has a definite 180 zones. The U900KF has 100+; 110 would still be in the ±10 error margin. The U7G has zones but are not defined; it definitely has at least two. Vagueness doesn't build confidence.

4) The section on sound is irrelevant at best and misleading at worst. The best sound will never come from the TVs.

Finally, Hisense Malaysia missed the chance to capture the 4K bump this year with the lack of the U product range. Maybe in terms of importance, Hisense puts its money in the China market, North America and then the rest of the world.

LoL none of these new 4K TV offerings have HDMI 2.1

Can I ask your opinion?

What is the difference between SMART 50E6F and Android 50A7400F and Samsung’s UA50TU8000? All 50”.

I am using a Firestick with Netflix, Disney+ and Amazon Prime built in. Any TV with 3HDMI slots and an optical output is perfect for my needs. The Mi TV doesn’t have these. I don’t use Astro. My current TV is just dying a slow death. There are streaks across the screen and rough surfaces that smells of burnt plastic! Time to ditch?

I’m also limited in my budget.. Will probably buy thru Seng Heng after FMCO for warranty purposes.

Thank you!

This post has been edited by GuyB: Jun 9 2021, 12:26 PM

HDMI 2.1 is nice to have to have but for now, it actually has limited uses. Console gaming at 120Hz has less texture and environment enhancements (crowd or effects). You need a RM2000-3000 GPUs on PCs to have any real benefit. If you can afford that, you might as well look at OLEDs.

HDMI 2.0 can handle most of what people need right now. What's more important is the panel quality.

You quoted what I wrote about what I found out about the two Hisense models. I don't know about the Samsung either except that it looks like a basic model with Tizen OS.

All three look like they are basic models. The only way to choose which one is to view them in person and judge them on their PQ and motion handling, sound quality and menu navigation. That's hard right now with the MCO.

That's a sensible requirement.

Although it doesn't mean much, I would choose the A7400F line if only for the Dolby Vision. Why it doesn't mean much? Because the TV doesn't have local dimming and doesn't have enough brightness level. It'll do a tone-map for DV content and do what it can to make it look as best as it can.

Why it means something? If you are a subscriber to all three streaming services, you might appreciate having a TV with DV just a little bit more than if they don't. All three have 4K Dolby Vision content.

However, there are other TV brands out there that are not FALD yet have DV. And they're cheaper. Look at the Philips 58" 58PUT6604. No Android but with DV and 3 HDMI inputs.

I know of vinegar syndrome for LCDs but not burnt plastic. Upgrade when you can with your budget priorities.

Seng Heng and other stores have their official stores on Shopee and Lazada, apart from their own website. As long as the product is supported by a local distributor and dealers, your Malaysian warranty is good.

Find a store that allows you to pay in installments if you need it. Stick to your budget and pay in installments. That way you have a cash cushion just in case.

This is the Samsung

https://www.samsung.com/my/tvs/uhd-4k-tv/tu...ua50tu7000kxxm/

I’m drawn to this only for the AirPlay 2 mirroring. Of course that’s not an absolute requirement as I can always stream connecting my iPad to the HDMI. I did this initially cos there wasn’t an Apple TV option on the Firestick. Now there is, but then again, I’ve got apps on my iPad not available on Firestick eg HBO Max, STARZ, Hulu.




Thank you for recommending the Philips. I’ll have a look at it when MCO is over.
I don’t, however, understand what FALD is?
When one electronic item goes, so do others.. need to invest in a laptop to replace my dying 8 year old Acer. Thinking of an all in one. Don’t need to carry the laptop anywhere nowadays. Can do all on my iPad.

Now, after all this, I’d like to invest in a relatively affordable 4K Blu-ray player. What gets me is that the SONY 4K UHD players are so much cheaper in the US than Malaysia..and the players are MADE IN MALAYSIA! I already have a multi region 1080p Bluray player. Just not 4K and no upscaling either. Bought from US. US$99 vs RM1000 here! Yes. Made in Malaysia.

Thank you so much for explaining this all to me.

This post has been edited by GuyB: Jun 9 2021, 04:10 PM

Yeah I read that page when I wrote my reply. Nothing there but the AirPlay 2 that's worth noting. If that's important to you, then well..

I think HBO Max, Starz and Hulu are available for the Firestick. If not, you can also sideload it.

The exact model may not be in stores. But if a store has that model or higher, you can judge the brand based on what you can see.

FALD stands for Full Array Local Dimming. Basically an LCD TV is comprised of the LCD screen and the light source behind it. A decade ago LCD TVs used to have the light source as CCFL (Cold Cathode Fluorescent Lamp) but nowadays they are LEDs.

Imagine an image split into two where there is grey on the left side and black on the right side. LCDs can't really do blacks because the LED backlight has to be on for the grey section of the screen. But when you can split the LED into clusters/arrays that you can turn on and off, the LCD TV screen can "display" blacks better.

FALD refers to the full array of LED clusters across the screen. Each LED cluster is directly behind the LCD.

The more clusters of LEDs, the better the black details the TV can reproduce.

Get an all-in-one that you can upgrade yourself. Don't be locked into something you can't upgrade one year after purchase. You can get a PC and connect it to your TV.

I don't know for sure but a certain Panasonic 4K model is the preferred player to videophiles out there due to its versatility. But you can't seem to find them here.

If you need to buy them, try sourcing from Thailand or HK first since both the DVD and the BD regions are the same as Malaysia. If you can't, then the US but just remember you need a step-down transformer to use it. I see that some Panasonic and Sony models can be bought between $200-250. Hopefully Amazon can ship it to you.

You could also get a PS5. Good luck finding one! From what I've seen, the PS5 doesn't support Dolby Vision. Yet. It's just a matter of paying Dolby the royalties.

If you're serious about collecting 4K BDs, then you might wanna upgrade to a FALD Dolby Vision TV in the near future.

No problem. Don't stress out on the current TV.

Do FALD DV TVs exist now?

Okay. I’ll scratch the Samsung out. So now it’s between the Philips and the Hisense..

Both have Dolby Vision but not FALDs? I’ll see if it’s within my budget to get that , and maybe scratch the 4K Blu Ray player for the time being.

Thanks again.

This post has been edited by GuyB: Jun 10 2021, 12:43 AM

Hisense U800QF has FALD, 180 zones

What he said. It's probably one of - if not the cheapest at RM4700 - FALD TV in the market right now. PQ is very impressive, with the QD display at supposedly 1000 nits brightness. You will need to get a new Android box that supports Dolby Vision, like the new Firestick 4K, to get Disney+ Hotstar, Amazon Prime and Netflix in 4K DV.

In other news, the A7G is gone from Hisense Malaysia's website. So I think I'll focus on if or when the U series comes to Malaysia. Otherwise there are too many "website launches" that are then revised or pulled.

I just checked with Hisense Malaysia and U7G has been launched last week and price from around RM4k - RM5, which is surprisingly expensive. RM1k more expensive if compared to the same price point in US.

However I'm waiting for U8G to pair with PS5 (If I can get both in 2021...)

This post has been edited by alexlim_88: Jun 10 2021, 11:12 PM

Recently I read that FOMO has recently been slapped extremely heavily by QuantumTV lol saying FOMO is not TV expert and always make false claims and giving wrong info by praising Sony's and Samsung's.

This post has been edited by alexlim_88: Jun 10 2021, 11:19 PM

Ok. RM4K is way over my budget. Should I just stick with Philips with their DV then? Or the Hisense 4K Android. I don’t need FALD. I do have the Firestick 4K. That’s why am looking to upgrade TV, other than the burnt plastic screen issue!

WFH lunchbreak.

You do you. FALD hasn't been this cheap. No feature that really makes a difference is. But that's the nature of any top-end product lineup.

Between the Philips 58PUT6604 and the Hisense 55A7400F, there is a price difference of around RM200. Though it is 3" smaller than the Philips, I think the Hisense is the way to go. It has Android, which means you can easily add the US apps of HBO Max, Hulu, Starz and Disney+ and use a VPN app on it. Your Firestick can be used when you travel.

Just note that the A7400F apparently has a VIDAA version of the same name. So don't buy the wrong version.

In as much as Quantum TV contributes to the YouTube/online discussion about TV techs, the fact that he actively insults and bullies the other TV reviewers doesn't sit well with me. He reported Joelster, who said he was a clown, for using a STILL picture of him in his Deadpool costume. He may be honest but he is not humble.

So far, the U series hasn't arrived in Europe yet. Or maybe the EU reviewers are still in lockdown. I watched one guy from Spain do a U7G unboxing but no review yet. So the U series is still relatively new.

Here is the comparison between the U8G, U8G Australia and U8GQ Europe on DisplaySpecifications.com. As you can see, they don't know that SEA is getting something a little different. More on that in a bit...

Where did you see this? I still haven't seen them listed on Shopee or Lazada.

It is unfortunately more expensive. And considering they are using VIDAA which they don't have to pay license fee for, I don't know why they are more expensive than the Android version.

So do I. At least once we know if and when the U8G will be announced, and its price, the market can make a decision. I still think they just want to clear their U800QF stock.

Anyway, this is what I found yesterday.





This is the 2021 lineup from Hisense Thailand. Still VIDAA. Prices have yet to be announced. Come on Hisense Malaysia! That's the products we want. That's the spec details that we want to be laid out on the website.

I do admit that Malaysia's product offering is better than Hisense Indonesia. Singapore is apparently too posh to buy Hisense. There is no Hisense Singapore.

Looks like TH-U8G is an upgraded version of U800QF: HDMI 2.1 with native 120hz panel, the rest are more or less the same

I swear I saw it on SengHeng site 2 days ago and now seems they have removed it. Btw here got mentioned the price of U7G:

https://www.lowyat.net/2021/241414/hisense-...official-price/

I think U8G won't be launched in Malaysia because the price might go from RM6.5k to RM8k, that's the price of OLED TVs.

Plus Dolby Atmos and Imax Enhanced support, as well as voice control. Apparently it's VIDAA Voice.

Interesting. The price for the 8K TV is way over the price of their laser projector set, which comes with an ALR screen.

If that's their pricing structure, Hisense Malaysia has put themselves in the same league as LG, Panasonic, Samsung and Sony but with nothing to back it up.

Their brand is about value for money. Pricing the U series like that is overestimating their perceived value, especially when neither of the Malaysian versions of the U7G and the U8G have the same specs as the US versions. Even the U900KF is more than the Australian version at RM22,300.

They are missing the chance in capturing the market share, the mind share and establishing themselves here. Seems like everybody in the management teams of Hisense, TCL and Mi felt overconfident in 2021. Or is it because the same big companies that distributes all of our TVs are owned by the same small group of people (therefore avoiding market cannibalization)?

Here's the pricing structure for the U series that Hisense Malaysia should have made that would benefit them and consumers.
U8G 65" - MSRP US is $1300. Malaysia's price should be RM5,500-6,000.
U7G 65" - MSRP US is $1000. About RM4,200-4,500.
U6G 65" - MSRP US is $750. About RM3,200-3,500.
Keep the specs the same AND make it Android, not VIDAA. We're already paying more. At these prices and with all the features, they would run out quickly every month.

I'm not holding my breath on that.