Another new fund will be launched end of this month. For those who seek diversity, this could be your chance. Please look out for the official announcement in Public Mutual's website next 2 weeks.
Public Mutual, PM/PB series fund
Public Mutual, PM/PB series fund
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Jun 18 2009, 02:59 PM
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Elite
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Another new fund will be launched end of this month. For those who seek diversity, this could be your chance. Please look out for the official announcement in Public Mutual's website next 2 weeks.
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Jul 12 2009, 02:01 AM
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QUOTE(snowcrash @ Jul 11 2009, 10:56 PM) Hi all, I currently hold PBAEF & PIF. It's kinda something I inherited & it's just sitting around, so I'm thinking of switching it to something else & leaving it alone for the next few years. My pref is 75% aggressive (thinking of the new PNREF, PFECTF, PSmallCap or similar) & 25% moderate (PITTIKAL, PSF or similar). snowcrash,My main area of concern is that I don't want to lose out too much on fees (my personal UT investments is done through FundSuperMart, so I'm a bit freaked out by the 5.5%...), that's why I'm limiting to switching. If I do switch from my current funds to something else, will they still tolak the 5.5% (or in case of PNREF, whatever the amount is) from the switched value? Switching will not incur the 5.50% service charge, but you will have to pay RM25 switching fee. |
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Jul 15 2009, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(balwr @ Jul 15 2009, 11:04 PM) balwr,There is no showing of global equity falling for at least this week, since America's consumer confidence has inched up a bit as corporates are expected to report better results. But you could keep an eye on the changes in America to make a better informed decision. |
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Aug 12 2009, 05:34 PM
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Aug 12 2009, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(shanelai @ Aug 12 2009, 05:44 PM) u're cool buddy... able to share your advice here? i also want to earn money from u man.. As said earlier, my pm's price always drop... loss til so pain... shanelai,What would be my benefits for sharing my advice here? My advices are not just one-off, but it is a continuous process. Frankly, I only have time for my clients. |
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Aug 12 2009, 09:35 PM
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Aug 13 2009, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 13 2009, 12:12 AM) MilesAndMore,You can always check the prices on Public Mutual's website. In addition, you can use our charts to track the performance of the individual funds. http://www.publicmutual.com.my/application/fund/detail.aspx - Daily fund prices http://www.publicmutual.com.my/application...erformance.aspx - Fund performance charts |
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Sep 8 2009, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(guanteik @ Sep 8 2009, 05:25 PM) Has anyone tried to purchase Mutual Funds through their online website? Today I purchased the PAUEF through online. The transaction gone through successfully PBe Banking, but when returning to Public Mutual website, it returned an error. I think this happened because my IE8 pop-up was blocked. guanteik,I am not too sure if the transaction goes through for PM or was the fund account was opened... Anyone faced this problem before whether it's Initial Investment or Additional Investment? Appreciately greatly on your replies... Usually when a payment is made through PBeBank, the serial will be tracked. So your investment could have been credited, but it takes time for the account to be visible. If you are still worried, give Public Mutual's customer hotline a ring to trace your transaction. |
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Sep 11 2009, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(guanteik @ Sep 11 2009, 09:50 PM) Hi, can any agent or experienced investor let me know if I have switch out ALL my funds from an account (e.g. AccountABC) a year ago and now, I would like to invest back into that fund under AccountABC? Currently what I can see from my PMO is AccountABC has 0 units... Please explain clearer. I don't really understand. Are you saying that you have invested into that account, but the value is 0? |
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Sep 12 2009, 03:03 AM
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QUOTE(guanteik @ Sep 12 2009, 12:02 AM) @Jordy, guanteik,Thank you for your reply. OK, you may take this example. I bought PIX a year ago & switched all to PCSF. Now my PIX account is left with 0 units and I am not too sure if it's closed. Now, I want to reinvest RM100 (not RM1K) into the PIX account I bought a year ago, is it possible? Whenever you perform full switching out, the original account will be closed. When you want to switch back to the same fund, a new account will be created. Hope this helps |
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Sep 24 2009, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(elite87 @ Sep 24 2009, 11:00 AM) planning to invest in public mutual.. abt rm2k only.. fresh grad.. wan collect money... my fren say every month mz put rm100... issit corect ??/ blur2 Minimum initial investment is RM1,000 and minimum additional investment is RM100. There is no obligation that you have to invest every month although investing with discipline every month could yield you better long-term returns.. Unit trust is not insurance.You have just graduated, so congratulations. But be sure to fully understand whatever you're investing into before going in with your hard earned money. Also make sure you have sufficient emergency funds before commiting to a long-term investment plan. |
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Sep 30 2009, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(Jutawan @ Sep 30 2009, 08:38 AM) Jutawan,You can check the fund 10-years history through our Quarterly Fund Review. There you can see clearly exactly how many times each fund declared dividends/splits in the past 10 years. You can get one through any consultants. As a rule of thumb, dividend funds will start to distribute dividends from year 1 because that is what they're supposed to do. To know if they are dividend funds or not, just look at the names (e.g. Public Islamic Dividend Fund, Public Islamic Asia Dividend Fund, etc). |
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Oct 13 2009, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(miaomiaolala @ Oct 13 2009, 09:58 AM) wanted to enquire does anyone here have the change of agent form you guys could share? miaomiaolala,Cos I logged into my PMonline and I saw the agent code is different and they will still charge the 5.5% charge You can't change your consultant unless:- 1. Your existing consultant's contract has been terminated 2. Both your existing and new consultants agree to the change |
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Oct 13 2009, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(miaomiaolala @ Oct 13 2009, 11:13 AM) miaomiaolala,As I said earlier, there are ONLY two conditions an investor can change consultant. QUOTE(august.decision @ Oct 13 2009, 04:07 PM) may i know when is the best time to buy UT? august.decision,i am interested to buy one fund....but it is going to declare distribution end of this month.... could anyone here would give me some opinions... should i buy b4 the distribution so that i can get the distribution too at end of this month....or wait after it distribution so that can buy at lower NAV? really hope someone could help to answer my question....tuvm Since you are talking about distribution, I will answer you based on only distribution. As cherroy pointed out, the distribution is actually pointless to you. Why you want to buy in to get part of your own money back (distribution), and still being deducted with tax? It would be wiser to buy only after the ex-date, where you would be getting the "distribution" indirectly. QUOTE(Jutawan @ Oct 13 2009, 08:26 PM) Jutawan,What is the objective of your investment? What is your time-frame? |
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Oct 13 2009, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Oct 13 2009, 11:16 PM) About changing agent, I find something odd when using the PMonline when switching my PIOF to PISBF. I already got a PISBF account but the system open up another account (with different account number and the agent is my latest one, the same agent as PIOF, the latest account I have). Is it a bug in the system? sphiroth,This is normal. You cannot switch a fund from consultant A to another fund under consultant B. Since you bought PIOF with consultant A, when you switch, the system will automatically open another account for you under consultant A. |
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Oct 14 2009, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(Jutawan @ Oct 14 2009, 10:56 AM) Jutawan,That is too general. You can accumulate wealth with almost anything. This type of objective will not discipline you when investing in unit trust, thus making you steer away from your investment when things go the other way. QUOTE(miaomiaolala @ Oct 14 2009, 11:18 AM) So does that mean if I were to invest in a new fund using PM online then the commission will also go to the consultant? Exactly.QUOTE(august.decision @ Oct 14 2009, 12:16 PM) thank you very much for ur advice and info august.decision,in the other case.....if i wan to repurchase one fund...it is the best to repurchase b4 the distribution (normally quite high b4 the distribution) or needed to wait after the distribution....until the NAV to achieve the target tat i set earlier (maybe need to wait for quite a long time)? and may i know what is the differences between switching and transfer? both also required RM25 admin fee... i understood about switching between funds....but how about transfer? I think it still boils down to your initial objective of purchasing the fund. Did you do it just because you want quick returns, or do you want to save up for the future? |
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Oct 14 2009, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(august.decision @ Oct 14 2009, 03:32 PM) my objective of purchasing the funds is to get positive returns and lock it by repurchase it at my target %...then save up at other place which is less risk like ASW/ASM ...FD...or etc... august.decision,then again will purchase funds which i think at a suitable time to make profit to achieve my targeted %......as for me....i don think UT is a safe place to save up my $$ for future....but mayb yes for investing.... i'm still in the process of learning it....since i'm quite new to the investment...so hope all SIFU here would give some advices to me... Then please DO NOT invest unit trust. You will do better in stock market. Your strategy will not work with unit trust. I will always advise my clients against such a practice. |
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Oct 15 2009, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(august.decision @ Oct 15 2009, 09:36 AM) ic....may i know what kind of investment strategy or mind set should we have for one person to invest in unit trust? or what is the correct way to invest in unit trust? i really like to know.... august.decision,i'm still in the process of learning which investment r suitable for me....therefore i tried with unit trust 1st which is less risky than stock market... i don mind to learn new things from here....really apppreciated to all the sifu who could help to answer my question....mayb one day i could invest in stock market and unit trust using different approach and objective too... btw...can anyone answer me for the below: may i know what is the differences between switching and transfer? both also required RM25 admin fee... i understood about switching between funds....but how about transfer? You must first fully understand and define your objective of investing in unit trust. Treat unit trust as a disciplined investment for the future. Unit trust is not a marketplace for you to buy and sell (trade) for quick profits. You could get it right once and a few subsequent times, but you can't sustain that forever as the service charge would backfire at you. Your mindset is suitable as a stock market trader. Play intraday or contra if you are daring enough, or hold a few stocks on dip and sell when they rise. |
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Oct 15 2009, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(Jutawan @ Oct 15 2009, 11:15 AM) My objective if i want to be more specific when investing in unit trust are : Jutawan,1. To accumulate atleast 1 million in my KWSP account when i 55 years old. 2. To make savings for both of my childrens when they want to go to university at 18 years old. 3. To have a good capital because i'm targetting to do business when i'm atleast 45 years old. Based on my various objectives, do i have to save my money in different unit trust provided by PM? Do you have a unit trust consultant in mind? I advise you to look for your consultant for the detailed analysis. Yes, the objectives #1 and #2 are valid, but I can't validate #3 because I don't know your age and your targetted amount to be used as capital. QUOTE(august.decision @ Oct 15 2009, 04:12 PM) may i know what is the average or highest % profit we can get from UT? august.decision,i saw some people....get only 12-15% of profit from their total investment in UT for about 3-5 or 10 years?? i think i need to know this...if not....i think i can't find any reason not to repurchase the funds since i will hv 18-20% from my 6 months of total investment in UT....let say i hv invested rm10k...if i repurchase now....i will get rm1.8k-rm2k of profit in 6 months time... if i switch to bond/money market.....then the NAV of the bond/money market fund will also fluctuate according to the market condition(sometime positive...sometime negative returns)...i also c that the dividend paid only within 2-5% per annum for some bond funds...with tat....i also not consider it a safe place to keep my $$ for future...except some fixed rate fund tat will also produce at least 5% per annum so far until now... like ASM/ASW or etc.... this is just in my mind rite now....i also not sure am i doing the right move....maybe some one here could like to enlighten me.... - may i know what is the average or highest % profit we can get from UT? The highest recorded for Public Mutual in a year was 72% for PSMALLCAP. - may i know wat is the expected/ preferable % of profit usually people get from their long period of investment? Very subjective. Of course you would expect/prefer returns which is as high as possible. Amount differs from person to person depending on your objective. Many people invest in unit trust because they "hope" to outperform other investment alternatives. If that does happen, then they would be satisfied. - i think i can't find any reason not to repurchase the funds since i will hv 18-20% from my 6 months of total investment in UT So what happens to the capital + 18% - 20% profit you have made? Does that mean you are satisfied with this 18% - 20%? I have made just over 50% in 7 months time with my investment, but I still stayed invested because I know if I let this go, I may never be able to get it back at the price I bought in. So I don't see how tempting your 18% - 20% is compared to my 50+% - then the NAV of the bond/money market fund will also fluctuate according to the market condition(sometime positive...sometime negative returns) Kindly show me a money market fund which made negative returns. Also, I have never seen a bond fund which ended its financial year in the red. - except some fixed rate fund tat will also produce at least 5% per annum so far until now... like ASM/ASW or etc Are you a Bumiputera? If not, don't even think of using any of the ASx for your savings. - i also not sure am i doing the right move....maybe some one here could like to enlighten me So, now I am here to tell you that you are absolutely WRONG. But I doubt you're going to change your mind, so what is the point of having this statement? |
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Oct 16 2009, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(august.decision @ Oct 16 2009, 10:00 AM) Jordy, august.decision,"- may i know what is the average or highest % profit we can get from UT? The highest recorded for Public Mutual in a year was 72% for PSMALLCAP. - may i know wat is the expected/ preferable % of profit usually people get from their long period of investment? Very subjective. Of course you would expect/prefer returns which is as high as possible. Amount differs from person to person depending on your objective. Many people invest in unit trust because they "hope" to outperform other investment alternatives. If that does happen, then they would be satisfied." thank u very much for ur answer above... "- i think i can't find any reason not to repurchase the funds since i will hv 18-20% from my 6 months of total investment in UT So what happens to the capital + 18% - 20% profit you have made? Does that mean you are satisfied with this 18% - 20%? I have made just over 50% in 7 months time with my investment, but I still stayed invested because I know if I let this go, I may never be able to get it back at the price I bought in. So I don't see how tempting your 18% - 20% is compared to my 50+%" ic...i don hv any investment experience b4 this....so i don mind if u correct me... may i know wat should i do...if i know that the fund tat r giving me return of 18% - 20% is going to declare distribution soon....then the NAV will again drop after the distribution...this is wat bothering me now...pls enlighten me.... and about ur 50+%.....mayb i know wat u will do in order to secure ur profit? "- then the NAV of the bond/money market fund will also fluctuate according to the market condition(sometime positive...sometime negative returns) Kindly show me a money market fund which made negative returns. Also, I have never seen a bond fund which ended its financial year in the red." i saw this in the prospectus of PM fund... PERFORMANCE OF PUBLIC BOND FUND (P BOND) Annual Total Return for the Financial Years Ended 31 July 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 P BOND (%) 14.96 8.81 5.44 15.55 9.85 2.58 9.43 2.90 8.75 -1.33 12-Month FD Returns (%) 5.51 3.98 4.24 4.04 3.94 3.70 3.69 3.77 3.76 3.71 PERFORMANCE OF PUBLIC ENHANCED BOND FUND (PEBF) Annual Total Return for the Financial Years Ended 31 January 2006* 2007 2008 2009 PEBF (%) 7.02 10.99 7.75 -5.62 12-Month FD Returns (%) 3.64 3.84 3.70 3.67 "- except some fixed rate fund tat will also produce at least 5% per annum so far until now... like ASM/ASW or etc Are you a Bumiputera? If not, don't even think of using any of the ASx for your savings." i'm a non-bumi....may i know wat is the reason u said that....pls clarify... "- i also not sure am i doing the right move....maybe some one here could like to enlighten me So, now I am here to tell you that you are absolutely WRONG. But I doubt you're going to change your mind, so what is the point of having this statement? " as i hv said tat i don hv any investment experience b4 this....so i don mind if u correct me and tell me that i'm wrong now... the point i having the statement: "this is just in my mind rite now....i also not sure am i doing the right move....maybe some one here could like to enlighten me...." i said that is just to let u know that was wat i am thinking at tat time... i just hope some ppl here could correct me if i am wrong... and u hv done it for me by telling me that wat i was thinking is wrong.. thank u so much btw...may i know wat is Portfolio Turnover Ratio (PTR)? it is the longer the better or shorted better? - may i know wat should i do...if i know that the fund tat r giving me return of 18% - 20% is going to declare distribution soon....then the NAV will again drop after the distribution So what if it declares distribution? Let it be. Do you not agree that after the distribution, it could rise again? There is a way to avoid paying high amount of tax though. The switching fee is RM25, it could save you from the taxman. - i saw this in the prospectus of PM fund Well, year 2008 was exceptional for many bond funds because of the stupid windfall tax on IPPs. That shook the market because a large number of bond issuers are IPPs. But you don't see that happen all the time. So it's still safe, not forgetting that the average return for PBOND is quite high. On the contrary, PEBF is NOT a bond fund. It's a hybrid fund with about 20% of its stake in equity. That's why you see the huge drop in 2008. - i'm a non-bumi....may i know wat is the reason u said that First of all, is there anymore units left for non-bumiputeras? But there are still Hundreds of Millions of units left for Bumiputeras. Secondly, being a non-Bumiputera, of course you can't buy ASB and ASM (please correct me if I'm wrong on ASM). These are the funds amond the ASx with the highest returns. I know of many people who have asked for advices and wasted my time, but they have NEVER changed. Still stuck with their own ego and their proud thoughts. But of course, there were some who took my advices seriously, and subsequently were interested in investing with me. From there I keep advising them whenever they need opinion. |
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