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Jordy
post Mar 27 2008, 03:11 PM

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A few announcements from Public Mutual:

First,
For Public series, there will be 2 funds lauching beginning next month.
For more information, please contact your servicing consultants.
Personally, I believe one of the funds is worth a look at, which has good prospect in the long run smile.gif

Second,
No changes will be made on the EPF investment scheme.
EPF and FMUTM have abolished the new system until further notice.
We will still follow the old pricing system, where EPF investment will be priced on submission date.

This post has been edited by Jordy: Mar 27 2008, 03:15 PM
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post Apr 21 2008, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(YuNGSeNG @ Apr 20 2008, 11:12 PM)
What you mean by "clarification" ? How is the clarification ?
Sorry and thanks for your answer... notworthy.gif
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The point is, if the ex-date for a distribution is 30th April, you can get the distribution even if you bought your units on the 29th of April.
Clarification means that he asked for some answers, and now he is clear about the answer.
The word has nothing to do with unit trust wink.gif
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post Apr 26 2008, 09:49 PM

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I think it is also very hard to post the daily NAV now, and where is dzi?
I think I haven't seen him on for a long time? wink.gif
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post Apr 30 2008, 03:17 PM

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Well, the distribution for PIADF quite disappointing tongue.gif
But nevermind, I think I need to keep it in there for quite some time.
PIDF's distribution is more encouraging, almost at par with EPF.
So how are you ladies/gentlemen doing with your funds? tongue.gif
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post Apr 30 2008, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 30 2008, 07:49 PM)
That doesn't even reach 1 cent/unit.
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Well, ya. The distribution translates to around 1.75% gross yield tongue.gif
How are your funds doing? Haven't heard any updates from you so far.
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post Apr 30 2008, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 30 2008, 09:09 PM)
Apart from PFES, the rest is below average.
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So, have any plans of averaging down?
PIADF has already been averaged down automatically.
Now I am thinking of consolidating my portfolio.
I will be cashing out on PIADF and PFEDF and shift to other funds when I have the opportunity smile.gif
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post May 1 2008, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 30 2008, 10:53 PM)
Maybe will load some cash into PAIF and PCSF. Let see how it goes.

Why gave up on those two funds? I thought and heard that they're great income funds. Which funds you have in mind if you were to do that?
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While these 2 funds are good income funds, but I am not so confident with their allocation.
They're spread into too many countries, so kind of too "diversified".
The performance will be mixed, so the return might not be so good.
I am eyeing either PRSF or PSF for long term tongue.gif
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post May 4 2008, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(guanteik @ May 3 2008, 08:30 PM)
do you guys realised PM fund prices go down very fast, but up very slow? Just my observation...
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At this point of time, the portfolio would have been adjusted to reduce risk. So more of the fund has been shifted to bond/money market.
That is why when there is any short term recovery in the market, the funds will move in a lower proportion.
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post May 4 2008, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 4 2008, 09:12 AM)
Technically, US might not be going into recession. In fact, people could sell commodities to move back to stocks or assets held in US currency.

Won't it be too late to sell shares to move to bond now  especially you are involved in oversea investments ?

Stock markets are yardsticks of economies 6 to 12 months ahead.
For discussion purpose.
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What I meant was that the fund managers have already moved the most of the funds into bond few months back.
That is why when market has a mild recovery, the funds tend to move slower in response.
If the fund managers see that the economy is going to be better, they will move back to equities.
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post May 11 2008, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(jeff_ckf @ May 8 2008, 10:21 PM)
then I think I'll stick to PIADF for a while longer and see how it goes. Cause country and industry diversification is what I like (just my investment perspective - pls dun flame me).
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Everyone has their own perspective on investing. I invested in PIADF because I see that there's potential in Asian countries in the long run. Developments are taking place, especially in regional countries and emerging markets.
We should be seeing more inflow of investment into Asian countries as the other regions are quite fully-valued.
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post May 12 2008, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(jeff_ckf @ May 12 2008, 08:08 AM)
I agree with you on that. And I personally think the China market is really too hot. Wonder if it will burst? My colleagues at China are complaining that their 20 - 30% increment per annum is "too little"......
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The inflation rate is really 'killing' them, and it wouldn't be too long until they burst.
What we could really do now is to look for funds with lower exposure in China and well spread.
We won't know if the China 'bubble' would affect the other parts of the world greatly, but be prepared for that with extra cash in hand.
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post Jun 3 2008, 02:40 AM

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QUOTE(Demitri @ Jun 2 2008, 08:50 PM)
Hi sifu,

Noob here, I bought the PB ASEAN Dividend fund 2 weeks ago, so will I get the 2 cents distribution as well?? Please advice.
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Yes, you are still entitled for the distribution.

QUOTE(wsl @ Jun 2 2008, 11:58 PM)
to all UT sifu here. I'm blurr on the previous distributions discussion.

Let's say I have 8000units of PBADF, with 2sen/unit declared, and I choose the distribution to be in cash when I filled in the form, does this mean that I will get 8000*0.02=RM160 as the yearly distribution? also, I will received the cheque soon from PB?
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You do not get exactly RM0.02, as there is still tax deductions from your distribution.
The breakdown of the distribution and the deductions will be stated in the distribution slips.
The cheques will be mailed to you, but allow at least 2-3 weeks for the processing.
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post Jun 12 2008, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Jun 11 2008, 09:25 PM)
Looking to buy a units anytime soon. 3-5 years investment, monthly RM100 topup.

Islamic Optimal Growth Fund or PB Ittikal? smile.gif
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At times like this, you could opt for new funds, as they were mostly launched during the market turmoil.
So, they have less downside exposure with their portfolio, while other older funds have to price in the loss they incur in their portfolio.
Malaysian market is still unstable at the moment, so stay away from local funds.
Get some diversification with regional funds or global funds would be a better choice.
I would suggest PSEASF now, because it is the top performer in my portfolio smile.gif

QUOTE(Syd G @ Jun 11 2008, 10:50 PM)
n00b here smile.gif

Whats the worse case scenario? Can the funds drop more than RM0? Lose everything?
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Would our 100 index-linked stocks lose all their value? No.
As funds have to hold mostly index-linked stocks, there is a margin of safety there.
It is a guarantee that no funds would go obsolute.
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post Jun 12 2008, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jun 12 2008, 07:28 AM)
I thought you have dumped your PSEASF.
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I have not dumped my PSEASF.
The only funds that I dumped were PCSF and PBADF.
I still have hope for SEA markets, even though inflation posted higher risks for regional markets.
It has only lost around 2% in my portfolio, against my PIADF's 12% lost and PFEDF's 10% drop.
So I can still say it is a good fund to keep.
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post Jun 12 2008, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Jun 12 2008, 02:06 PM)
Surely the older funds have already priced in whatever losses they have incurred?

Which means that for someone entering now, the consideration is what the funds currently hold in their portfolio and their future potential, and not whether it's 'old' or 'new'?
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I might be wrong in this though, but from my personal view, older funds have holdings in more aggressive portfolio, since it was the bull the time they were launched. Therefore whatever they are holding now are more volatile.
Newer funds however, were launched during when the crisis occured, therefore the portfolio is more defensive in nature. So, the funds are less volatile in such a market, and pay good distributions.
We do not know how long this crisis would end, so it pays to be more defensive at the moment.
Hope my views do not contradict anyone elses smile.gif
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QUOTE(lifeless_creature @ Jun 13 2008, 11:06 AM)
sorry, newbie here, how do we know what strategies the manager is using on this ABC fund? Do you have any example? Thanks...newbie here  blush.gif
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Basically, you can get the information through a few resources.
You could either get it from the prospectus as jeff_ckf mentioned, or you could get the latest Quarterly Fund Review, which shows you the asset allocation for each fund ended in the particular quarter. This would give you a rough idea of what the strategies of the fund have.
If you have the annual/interim report of the funds, you can look at the full portfolio of the fund for the whole year.
If you have any enquiries, do not hesitate to ask, as I may be able to help smile.gif
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QUOTE(syco @ Jun 13 2008, 10:21 PM)
is't investing in PM will help me earn more money??
does my money remain 1000 when the economy falling down???
or ist will remain growing up same like asb.. i heard that asb is better than UT bcoz in asb, if ur money have been hiked up, it will remain at that stage, eventhough the next time the percentage will crash down, it will still remain at the same as before it goes down. meaning here, if at the first time you invest 1000, then the next year it increase to 1040. it will remain 1040 at that time eventhough the percentage at that year goes down. so you still got the benefit.. you wont lost your money. In fact, you will gain more money... (am i right??)
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Who told you this? If it is really this good, you think there'll be poverty in Malaysia by now?
Only FD dares to guarantee stuff like that. ASB will only guarantee your capital, but NOT your return.
Lets say you invest RM1,000 at RM1.00, and the price goes up to RM1.05, ASB will pay out RM0.05 dividend.
Another way round, if you invest same amount, but the market not doing good, you might not get any return, but your capital still at RM1,000.
There is also a thread about ASB, please read it up to know more about it.
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post Jun 14 2008, 06:33 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jun 14 2008, 06:11 AM)
Now I only know that ASx guarantees the capital. No wonder it's so popular and like hot cakes.
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Careful though, as not all are capital guaranteed.
If I am not mistaken, only ASB, ASW2020 and ASN series are capital guaranteed.
The others, ASG, ASD, etc are not capital guaranteed.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jun 14 2008, 06:39 AM)
So what advices you gave to your investors? Ask them to be calm and remain positive? Should stay away from market now till more positive indicators appear?
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As we all know, fundamentals are fundamentals. It won't go anymore wrong.
Crisis spells opportunity, and those that stay through crisis will emerge winners.
There will always be market ups and downs, and many people believe that what goes up, must come down and vice versa. So, even if global markets are going down now, it will eventually go up.
I recently met one of my client who was worried. So I told him to keep accumulating more units.
I told him to give this crisis 3 years, and by the end of 3 years, the result would be clearer.
Things are not as bad as it seems right now if you follow the markets closely.
It is not a straight line down, but rather trading sideways. Does this sound as bad as the 70's, 80's or even 90's crisis?
I personally would be happier if the markets go down further, as I know the rebound that would come is going to be a much larger one, as seen during 1997. Only the brave will reap the rewards.
So, does this make you more confident? smile.gif
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post Jun 15 2008, 01:46 AM

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As we all know, pricing doesn't really matter because all funds/stocks will keep their prices low. It is the total return from distributions+bonus+capital gain that counts. So, if you look at the amount of bonuses or distributions they give, you will be amazed smile.gif

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