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 INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V4<<, The Journey Continues Here!

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post Sep 29 2007, 06:36 PM

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Hm.. Not really! I clean & defrag my HDD once a week. Nothing much improve as well. Was using Diskeeper PRO thou.

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post Sep 29 2007, 06:39 PM

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@fylon, then should be the RAM access to the files are slow.High latency in the reading of HDD ? Between, i think the HDD buffer size will do effect on it right even it's just reading.
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post Sep 29 2007, 06:54 PM

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These slow down issues with HDD might got something to do with windows. I for one, never got those issues due to always keeping my system clean from having too many background programs running. I have 3 HDDs in my rig, no slowdowns encountered. I truly believe the user's maintenance/habit of software usage and hardware maintenace affects the overall performance of the PC. U gotta know what u r doing and how the things you did affects your PC's performance. For example, by installing Norton 360, you'll be overloading your windows with unnecessary background programs (bloatware?) and definately affects the performance directly.

Having to run defragmentation once a week I think is not wise at all if you do not have lots of file transfers. Fragmentation has been minimised since the introduction of Windows XP using NTFS.

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post Sep 29 2007, 07:10 PM

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Actually already defragged the HDD,
but for these few big folders seems to be a little more problematic.
Maybe 320GB is too hard for a 865 chipset to handle?
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post Sep 29 2007, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(choongkeat @ Sep 29 2007, 07:10 PM)
Actually already defragged the HDD,
but for these few big folders seems to be a little more problematic.
Maybe 320GB is too hard for a 865 chipset to handle?
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No, 865 chipsets can handle 320GB HDD just fine. What antivirus you are using? It might affect the slowdown also due to scanning the large files while you are trying to access the folders.

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post Sep 29 2007, 07:26 PM

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Oh yea.. Didnt think about antivirus thou. I was using Mcafee now.. Last time this antivirus kinda good.. But the latest ver are worse. It run alot of background task. How much processes are u guys run on ya PC? Dam.. Mine was 50... After window is fully load. Guess thats alot. Planning to change to Kaspersky internet suit after i got my new HDD and see how was it.

By then, i frequently transfer files. tongue.gif Cause get movies and anime from my colleges thats why i did de-fragmentation around once a week.

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post Sep 29 2007, 07:28 PM

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I am using Mcafee too...
Maybe thats the reason.... but running defragment once a week will really hurt the hard disk.
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post Sep 29 2007, 07:42 PM

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Ic.. Which version are u using? Im currently using the VirusScan Plus 2007. IS really run alot of background task. sweat.gif I see my office pc, run on kaspersksy only 3x task after the window finish load. Haha.. Well.. I only did that if i do alot of files transfer and copy.
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post Sep 29 2007, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(fylon @ Sep 29 2007, 07:26 PM)
@edmin

Oh yea.. Didnt think about antivirus thou. I was using Mcafee now.. Last time this antivirus kinda good.. But the latest ver are worse. It run alot of background task. How much processes are u guys run on ya PC? Dam.. Mine was 50... After window is fully load. Guess thats alot. Planning to change to Kaspersky internet suit after i got my new HDD and see how was it.

By then, i frequently transfer files. tongue.gif Cause get movies and anime from my colleges thats why i did de-fragmentation around once a week.
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even with that kind file copying habit, as long as it is done in another partition or hard disk that does not contain your main windows files system, there is no such need to defrag weekly. I also regularly transfer hundred of gigs worth of data, kabukiawie can verify this. But I keep the windows drive separated from my regularly read/write hard disk, so there will be no impact on fragmentation of system files. you have to understand the logic of fragmentation and its impact on system performance. smile.gif

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post Sep 29 2007, 09:46 PM

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im using Zone Alarm and NOD32, so far its ok, but the zone alarm quite troublesome, for eg. in my uni all of us use mirc to share files, whenever i wanna start the mirc application, they will block it although i've given access, so in the end i switch it off, sweat.gif thumbup.gif

btw i used to defrag (using norton) my com once every week (3 years ago lar), that time i think my com run smoothly, but rite nw i din defrag coz vy troublesome, if wanna defrag needs at least a few hours to do each drive, thats when i realise smth, my avi files which i've keep for quite long, at least 3 months gt a bit corrupt, when i 1st dl the file and watch it theres no green boxes appearing here and there in the movie, then after 4/5 month leaving it in my hdd, and i open it again, i saw some greens boxes

do u guys hv dis kind of prob?
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post Sep 29 2007, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(khai84siong @ Sep 29 2007, 09:46 PM)
im using Zone Alarm and NOD32, so far its ok, but the zone alarm quite troublesome, for eg. in my uni all of us use mirc to share files, whenever i wanna start the mirc application, they will block it although i've given access, so in the end i switch it off,  sweat.gif  thumbup.gif

btw i used to defrag (using norton) my com once every week (3 years ago lar), that time i think my com run smoothly, but rite nw i din defrag coz vy troublesome, if wanna defrag needs at least a few hours to do each drive, thats when i realise smth, my avi files which i've keep for quite long, at least 3 months gt a bit corrupt, when i 1st dl the file and watch it theres no green boxes appearing here and there in the movie, then after 4/5 month leaving it in my hdd, and i open it again, i saw some greens boxes

do u guys hv dis kind of prob?
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guys, i guess we OT too much already hmm.gif anyway, to answer your question of green boxes, (assuming the file u opened previously was perfect, don't have corruption or incomplete downloads), it is highly related to codec issues.

from my past experience, it is impossible to have data loss for keeping some data too long (it is not a tape drive or diskette, mind you!). It only happens under these circumstances: virus attacks, dying hard disks (data loss due to bad sector, etc) or some program altering the original file.

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QUOTE(edministrator @ Sep 29 2007, 09:51 PM)
guys, i guess we OT too much already  hmm.gif  anyway, to answer your question of green boxes, (assuming the file u opened previously was perfect, don't have corruption or incomplete downloads), it is highly related to codec issues.
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thx for ur advice, btw wat is OT? hmm.gif
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post Sep 29 2007, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(edministrator @ Sep 29 2007, 09:39 PM)
even with that kind file copying habit, as long as it is done in another partition or hard disk that does not contain your main windows files system, there is no such need to defrag weekly. I also regularly transfer hundred of gigs worth of data, kabukiawie can verify this. But I keep the windows drive separated from my regularly read/write hard disk, so there will be no impact on fragmentation of system files. you have to understand the logic of fragmentation and its impact on system performance.  smile.gif
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Haha.. Edmin dont get me wrong. Hm.. Maybe i din state clearly. I was point at my regular drive yet not the windows drive (C:/). Duh.. doh.gif Im a CE student thou, i understand what are u talking about. biggrin.gif I always keep a spare 10G space for my windows drive. And my virtual memory was set to another drive in order to give the windows drive free from become fragmented.

@khai84siong

Edmin OT's might refer to Out Track. Lol.. Guess we get back to track! Anyways, this thread was created just for discussing S478 & its hardware related problem / issues.

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QUOTE(fylon @ Sep 29 2007, 10:12 PM)
@edmin
Haha.. Edmin dont get me wrong. Hm.. Maybe i din state clearly. I was point at my regular drive yet not the windows drive (C:/). Duh.. doh.gif Im a CE student thou, i understand what are u talking about. biggrin.gif I always keep a spare 10G space for my windows drive. And my virtual memory was set to another drive in order to give the windows drive free from become fragmented.

@khai84siong

Edmin OT's might refer to Out Track. Lol.. Guess we get back to track! Anyways, this thread was created just for discussing S478 & its hardware related problem / issues.
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thx for the info, icon_rolleyes.gif
btw wanna ask, if let say i hv less than 10GB in my HDD, wat will happen to my proc? lag? due to nt enough space to process? is it vy important?
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OT= Off Topic laugh.gif


Added on September 29, 2007, 10:20 pm
QUOTE(khai84siong @ Sep 29 2007, 10:18 PM)
thx for the info,  icon_rolleyes.gif
btw wanna ask, if let say i hv less than 10GB in my HDD, wat will happen to my proc? lag? due to nt enough space to process? is it vy important?
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nothing will happen to your CPU, HDD space is not CPU related. 10GB is still plenty space. u will only need to start worry if you have reached around 2GB space left for your windows drive, as pagefile might be an issue by then.

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post Sep 29 2007, 10:27 PM

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anyone have any NEW OC attempt????

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post Sep 29 2007, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Sep 29 2007, 10:27 PM)
anyone have any NEW OC attempt????
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Guess no. Im still waiting my psu. And now duno where is sang going. Maybe hide somewhere else and tweaking his rigs. laugh.gif And suddenly give us a bombing news.
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post Sep 29 2007, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(fylon @ Sep 29 2007, 11:03 PM)
Guess no. Im still waiting my psu. And now duno where is sang going. Maybe hide somewhere else and tweaking his rigs. laugh.gif And suddenly give us a bombing news.
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huhuhuh, sang just wanna gv us a surprise, let hope he'll do some great to impress us rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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post Sep 30 2007, 02:10 AM

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i though he was going to the dark side already !
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post Sep 30 2007, 10:50 AM

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Since when sang is shifting to dark side already?A few days didn't see him here.

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