Fylon - 3.0E @ 3.6 | Asus P4P800 Deluxe | Kingston 256mb *2 + Hynix 256MB *2 | GeXCube 9800PRO
Lol... Seems like is the mobo which limiting the proc oc ability huh..
INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V4<<, The Journey Continues Here!
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Aug 28 2007, 10:58 AM
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Wow.. Just away for few days and V4 comming out! Thats rock! S478 long live!
Fylon - 3.0E @ 3.6 | Asus P4P800 Deluxe | Kingston 256mb *2 + Hynix 256MB *2 | GeXCube 9800PRO Lol... Seems like is the mobo which limiting the proc oc ability huh.. |
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Aug 28 2007, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Aug 28 2007, 11:18 AM) Added on August 28, 2007, 11:22 am@ fylon,your mobo i think is preety good in overclocking one.Why you say the mobo limiting the proc o/c ? Maybe you try to pump up the vCore and see. QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Aug 28 2007, 11:37 AM) p4p800 dlx limiting you?? if really want to say which components limits you, i think most probably is the ram. 4 slots full normally wont oc better than 2 sticks. and your rams are mix chipset as well. 3.6GHz is quite sweet already. Haha.. Well.. Just thought of this after read the article tat ray posted in 2nd post! xD Mobo might be a factor as well. Yup.. I know that. Was thinking of changing my ram and add in a ddr booster in. |
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Aug 28 2007, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Aug 28 2007, 01:18 PM) Halo,i've updated your list inside. Lol.. Kinda satisfy already. Just thought on push more ma. See how much juice can my procs been squeezed! Since is D0 stepping, produce lesser heat (thats what i read from from review), then try lo. Aim higher.. Plan of reaching 3.8Ghz. QUOTE(edministrator @ Aug 28 2007, 01:27 PM) btw, i upped my AGP voltage to 1.60v, really stabilizes my system. Orthos previously intermittently can run Orthos for 8hours no issue, the next day beeped after 2 hours. Now after upping the agp voltage, rock solid liao. |
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Aug 28 2007, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Aug 28 2007, 03:21 PM) Play games at 3.8GHz... Duh... Already put the loosen one that my ram and mobo. in order to get 3.6 eh. ALready added in da list. I guess my procs still can be push more. Since sHawTY can hit 4G with the same procs as mine. I guess mine atleast can hit 3.8 on air! Probably is the ram which limiting the OC wall atm. 4x 256 with single sided ram. One of the chip failed reach the speed already cause the system unstable lo.. |
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Aug 28 2007, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Aug 28 2007, 04:46 PM) haha......maybe he will satisfied when he reach 4GHz. So fast! 1st day of V4 has reached 2page! i dont know correct or not la, but seems many asus p4p or p4c users are manage to go beyond 3.6GHz, so it shouldnt hold us back from getting above 3.6 Just mine not ommp enough. |
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Aug 28 2007, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Aug 28 2007, 10:03 PM) Are you sure you'll be satisfied when you hit 3.8GHz? Hehe.. Depend on the ram & procs as well. If can push higher sure will wanna go beyond 4Ghz! Is the NB temperature measured under System temperature? Btw, just tried with 3.61G and guess wad.. 10secs prime then restart me! |
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Aug 29 2007, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Aug 29 2007, 03:04 AM) I've already replaced the paste with AS5, but haven't done any lapping yet to the heatsink. I'll post a bit of results if there is any Yeah I saw that earlier when I was browsing thru Garage Sales. Usually 2-2-2-5 RAMs come in Samsung TCCD chips or BH-5 chips. BH-5 chips can be picky, so do test them out before you buy QUOTE(GCI99 @ Aug 29 2007, 12:06 AM) Yea.. Was thinking of take off either 1 pair of the ram and see how was it perform. Should be of the ram chip having problem to reach 241fsb. QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Aug 29 2007, 09:29 AM) Oh,Super Talent 2*512MB only RM250 ? The price is cheaper than the other high performance RAM yet can run at 2-2-2-5 Yea.. Found on garage sales! haha.. Hm.. There was 3 performance ram on sales on the moment. Haha.. PQI, TeamExtreme TeemX, and SuperTalent. Was wander which 1 are better then grab it. All the price are in between 250-200 lidat. Hyper X? By then was waiting seller reply about the ram. Hehe.. QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Aug 29 2007 03:04 AM) Yeah I saw that earlier when I was browsing thru Garage Sales. smile.gif Seems good actually, but if you are planning to get a DDR Booster you might as well get some BH-5 chips to play along with it. Ar... Usually 2-2-2-5 RAMs come in Samsung TCCD chips or BH-5 chips. BH-5 chips can be picky, so do test them out before you buy. |
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Aug 29 2007, 02:14 PM
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Ic.. Usually whats the problem will be? The system cannot boot up? Hm.. Sounds scare to me!
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Aug 29 2007, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Aug 29 2007, 02:18 PM) I know some mobos are picky on RAM. Have to becareful when choosing on RAM. QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Aug 29 2007, 02:23 PM) hmm.....learn alot for those rams, BH5 is good for tight timings. for p4 normally it needs high speed instead of tight timing. QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Aug 29 2007, 02:47 PM) Oh,even 3.3GHz is sufficeint already to handle games. Wah.. Learned alot about RAM thiggy! Haha.. Was planning to get a better ram so can go further. Hm.. Need to make consideration before make any purchase. Otherwise bought wrong then worse! QUOTE(sHawTY @ Aug 29 2007, 05:54 PM) Tell that to fylon. His PC spec has no differences than mine. Only different on GC & PSU i think. Oii fylon, push your 3.0E to 4GHz lar. Your pc spec same same as my previous S478 PC mah. QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Aug 29 2007, 05:59 PM) Haha.. Shawty bro now cannot la.. Really stuck at 3.6G atm. Cant even prime my system at 3.61G le.. 10secs then system go restart already. Maybe can hit 4G after i change my ram. lol.. 4x 256mb wasnt that good for OC eh. Too many chip on the ram..@ray, dun wna la.. Dont dare to take the challenge. No fund for getting better ram as im now stuck at 3.6 eh! lol! There is only 2 games on my pc atm. Dawn of war and RO! LOL.. Was accompanying my gf play that online game. As for myself.. I seldom play game. Unless the game really hooked my interest! Might wan to try LOTR after finish DOW! |
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Aug 29 2007, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Aug 29 2007, 07:57 PM) dear friends, Haha.. Gigabyte board huh.. Should be ok with Prescott gem i guess. Try flash the bios to the latest version and try. By then.. Its running on sis chipset. Was that good for OC thou. need help here. does this mobo support prescott soc478??still got my P4 3.2E with me here... link: http://www.gigabyte.co.za/Products/Motherb...Name=GA-8S648FX |
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Aug 30 2007, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Aug 29 2007, 09:53 PM) @flyon fast fast accept the challenge, break the 4GHz wall. show sHawTY some color. you try running with 2 stick of ram see how far it can go. QUOTE(sang_karim @ Aug 30 2007, 08:06 AM) Ha.. QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Aug 30 2007, 03:39 AM) is it because u didn't supply enuf vdimm? Wah.. Advises from 'old folk' eh! Haha.. Jk jk! Thanks for the advise albert. Really learn alot! usually 2.8V can give a good BH5 to run 2-2-2-5@DDR440 Added on August 30, 2007, 4:04 am@fylon, seriously, running 4dimm was no go for all platform, not to mention S478. try get 2 X 512MB ram and OC kaw-kaw. here are some advice : 1. change your ram:fsb ration. make ram running 100 or 133mhz, then start to clock up fsb to find the best cpu clock. while doing that, run some prime or orthos to stress the cpu for stability. (pls do with stock vcore 1st) 2. once u had the cpu sweet spot, start work with ram. see how much yr ram can be clock with stock timing & vdimm. 3. it's best if u can compile the oc attemp into excel sheet so that is easier for u to refer . 4. after u had both ram and cpu sweet spot, try to match them up for the best combination. refer the excel file earlier to make the best OC. *remember to try this at stock Vcore/Vdimm 1st. slowly increase the voltage after u had obtain the best OC to squeeze even more mhz from it. remember to burn in your system (best if over night) for stability check. |
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Aug 30 2007, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Aug 30 2007, 03:40 PM) Flyon, now every one of us are eyeing on you oo...... Hah.. Dont like that la.. Im scare pals! show us what you got. i know you can go beyond that. QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Aug 30 2007, 04:29 PM) @sang_karim Oh.. Pity kabu! Haha! Nvm.. Tomorrow is holiz! Can rest a home ma.. Take more rest lo..true also. these days didnt see you play around with your rig, no updates?? your rig can fight with flyon also ba.... Damn, last night i format windows and do installation till almost 1, and the damn rain this morning make me cought heavy flu. now like half dead. QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Aug 30 2007, 07:51 PM) Hi everybody. Pals.. Welcome to this thread. I'm using P4 1.5, my 20GB hard disk spoilt already, can i replace it by 80GB hard disk with 8MB cache?Any brand of HDD that recommended? How large capacity of hard disk that P4 1.5 can support? thanks 1st. |
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Guys.. Something strange here. Was reset my system to default and start from scratch, and i found this. On cpu-z my ram was running on FSB400/200Mhz which is preset by the mobo DDR400 speed. But whilte in ctiaw, my ratio was shown as FSB533/133Mhz.
![]() Edit: Tried with 2x D43. Result as below: Procs: 3.61Gh @ 1.45vcore Timing: 3-4-4-8 (the loosen that my mobo can go) @ 2.85vdimm (the max vdimm my mobo can supply) Divider: 1:1, 3:2, 5:2 (Try all type of ratio already) Result: A. 1:1 Ratio @ 30secs after error found for 1st time. Try agian for the 2nd time system go hang and restart. B. 3:2 Ratio @ 1mins and 19secs after error found. (System stable, no hang nor restart) C. 5:4 Ratio @ 3mins and 45secs after error found. (System stable, no hang nor restart) Conclusion: FAILED OC! This post has been edited by fylon: Aug 30 2007, 11:19 PM |
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Aug 31 2007, 09:30 AM
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LOL.. Dono what happen lo.. Maybe PSU not enough juice? Hm.. Wanna try with the other two TCCC ram agian tonight. See whats the result agian. Hehe.. Hows everyone merdeka eve? Im going to work agian.. No leave thou.. But double pay!
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Aug 31 2007, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Aug 31 2007, 10:22 AM) weird la......even you set the divider also give you the same thing?? Haha.. Yeap! Weird! tonight post the screenie agian.. Thats weird! CPU-Z says 400:200 but ctiaw says 533:133 with full PAT! i htink your tccc ram can push higher. this is my ctiaw [attachmentid=286996] Yea.. tonight wanna try TCCC see how much it can go! |
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Aug 31 2007, 10:23 PM) did you set the divider in bios? if set to auto maybe it will auto change to other divider like 5:4 or even 3:2 in order to boot. i faced before on py prescott, when i push near to 190+, it drop down to 166. damn. Yea, set on 400mhz tats means on 1:1 ratio. But its weird when get into windows ctiaw detected it as 533:133 while cpu-z detect as 1:1 ratio. Thats what happen to me when i set my speed to default which is 3.0E and with full PAT.. Just home from dinner thou. Guess no chance to test the TCCC ram tonight. |
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QUOTE(pengster @ Sep 1 2007, 01:16 AM) Yea.. mine also having the same problem. I set my vcore at 1.45v but in cpu-z it read as 1.58v. Thats scared me. By then, whenever i run priming software the vcore will automatically drop to 1.34v - 1.45v lidat. Not constant thou. Just run up and down. But when stop priming the vcore will drop back to 1.5xv agian. P/s: Some side track question to ask here. Dont flame!! |
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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Sep 2 2007, 01:57 AM) Does anyone know the reason for this? Yo pals... Here i am! When I do stress testing using Prime95 Multithread Edition, with the Large FFT test on, one thread would always fail within 30 minutes where as the other thread would go on as though nothing happened. My processor is stable, raising Vcore did not solve the problem, same goes for the memory, which is also stable. Now currently I'm trying to raise AGP voltage to test, but I hope someone here has this similar problem and share their views on it. I also read that increasing AGP voltage might fry ATI cards, and I have changed the chips that regulate the voltage to a cheaper variant because I accidentally ripped one out before. All the more for the card to burn. P/s: Btw colin, which priority are u running on? Mine was on 10. Full stress.. This post has been edited by fylon: Sep 2 2007, 07:05 PM |
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Sep 2 2007, 11:22 PM) Prescott with 1.85V also cannot pass ah? Aiyak.. Sorry! Typo error la.. It should be 1.55v.. By then.. See my new screen! My new result! Hehe.. Guess i found out what stopping me for go beyond 3.6Ghz liao.. Now running at 3.67Ghz! Near 3.7Ghz! Guess i didnt supply enough vAGP last time thus is makes me cant go beyond 3.6Ghz! Tried few time with 1.6v vAGP really makes my system reboot or hang after 30secs priming with priority 10 Orthos. Guess when hit high speed, the north bridge need more juice from PSU in order to maintain and stabilized the system. Seems like is not my D43 and TCCC ram fault. Blame the wrong part.. You need to go water cooling adi or probably you got 1 of the unlucky procs loh......can get high speeds but not able to stabilize it ![]() Setting as below: Running at: 3.67Ghz @ FSB245*15 RAM ratio : 3:2 (Well.. havent try on run at 1:1 thou, but can archived 3.67Ghz with 3:2 count ok already for me. vcore: 1.5375v (lower down from 1.55v) vdimm: 2.85v vAGP: 1.8v (Taking rise with max up the vAGP and i got some surprise! Full load: 56-57'c (Kinda high for me.. Will try to adjust my cable management agian.. North Bridge: 42'c GC: 58-60'c (Jumping up and down thou.. and i didnt OC the card yet!! Result: Satisfy with this result. 3.8Ghz on the way! QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Sep 2 2007, 10:01 PM) I run mine at 9. colin, if u're dare enough like me. Try max up ur vAGP and try prime agian. I bet this will be something good happened on ur rigs. See my result above.. I'm guessing it's a heat related problem. I'm gonna get my new fans soon, then I'll post back results. QUOTE(ac_N1 @ Sep 2 2007, 11:34 PM) My computer suddenly shut down by itself.. well...... not really shut down completely, the cpu LED is still on. Izzit my power supply problem? Check this out Pals.. seems like ur 12v rails wasnt that stable. What PSU ur using at the moment?Temperatures Motherboard 37 °C (99 °F) CPU 35 °C (95 °F) Aux 45 °C (113 °F) Seagate ST3160815A 39 °C (102 °F) Cooling Fans CPU 3125 RPM Chassis 2637 RPM Voltage Values CPU Core 1.52 V +2.5 V 2.61 V +3.3 V 3.42 V +5 V 5.19 V +12 V 7.10 V <---- is this normal? +5 V Standby 5.13 V VBAT Battery 3.39 V This post has been edited by fylon: Sep 3 2007, 12:28 AM |
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might be reading error? Haha.. Try clear ur cmos and see hows the things go. Btw, what mobo are u using ac_N1?
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