so after 3 days of scouting and visiting almost all major electronics retailers in kl, i have narrowed down and also not in peace with my selection. Hope to get some clarity, advice or point me in the correct direction from the sifu's here.

previous model: Toshiba 50" LED (50L2300VM)
Manufacture Year: 2013
Problem Year: 2021 (double image)
To check: RM 150
To repair: RM 500 - 700 quoted by local repair shop - suspect ribbon problem or something. (no panel problem)
To usage years: 8 years

Decided to look for new TV.

Usage requirements:

1. Astro 4K
2. Online streaming
3. unifi Tv
4. Bluray
5. TV is the only source of entertainment in my family.
6. I love watching movies.
7. My viewing distance: 11 feet
8. My parents viewing distance: 23 feet
9. Daytime light is a lot

Specification requirements:

1. 65"
2. 4K native
3. HDR
4. Dolby Audio

Not sure:
1. HDR - 500 nits and above?
2. Dolby Vision?
3. Dolby Atmos?
4. VA/IPS Panel?
5. Get now or wait?
6. 55"/65"/75"
7. of course budget is the deciding factor but to make it simple i cant afford oled price tag of 5 digits. sadly.

From my survey:

1. Samsung 65TU8000 - RM 3,380
2. Samsung 65TU8500 - RM 3,640
3. Sony X8000 - RM 3,860
4. Sony X9000 - RM 6,000 ( )
5. LG 65UN7400 - RM 3,550

Other brands not surveyed.

Currently learning towards 65TU8500 but the kicker kicked in last minute which was a 75" taking a blind swipe at me and throwing me off focused.
Not satisfied or at peace with all the picture qualities based on my survey.

Kicker:

while chatting up with all retailers, i found some retailers offering a 75" LG - 75UN7200 that retails RM 8K at RM 6.6K.
The lowest managed to chat up is for that 75" is RM 5,600(seems to be the best thus far in terms of offerings compared to any other retailers out there.)
That threw me off focused a bit.
Harvey norman comes in no. 2 with the so called focus campaign where they are offering Samsung TU7000-TU8500 at a good price.

Take note all retailers have their own extended warranty that i need to top up(senheng + 1 year free, others + 2/3 years paid)

So yeah....i hope i haven't missed anything.

The reason i am posting here is my undecisiveness and the "WANT" of having the best movie affordable movie experience.
I know "best" and "affordable" doesn't sit in the same sentence, i guess i am just looking for a reassurance from someone to nail the hammer on the coffin.

appreciate your kind assistance or advice on this matter,

Thank you.

This post has been edited by anonymous4privacy: Feb 21 2021, 12:58 PM

Samsung 65TU8500

cant go wrong with sony i think..

sony menu is super hard to use.
between korean both ok pick the high one since u got budget (long term)

You have already pulled the trigger , so there is no point to be obsessed with being right or wrong .

I wouldn't have gone for the same choice the but at the very least , any TV in your list should be a massive upgrade compare with the 8 years old Toshiba .


Note : the X90 is obviously in a different league compare with all the rest , even the price is almost doubled.

This post has been edited by Convael: Feb 23 2021, 01:45 PM

have you check LG BX 65” prices?

If you want to taste what good picture quality really means...you.might forgot about 65 inch and settle for 55 x9000h instead...just place you sofa closer to the tv ...its a good size upgrade from your toshiba 50 anyway....slow2 upgrade....once you know what good quality tv means, i think you are not gonna be able to downgrade later in the future...but ofcuz if you really2 need a big screen tv and tlyou got a massive living room...then just ignore my post...ahh you can just simply go to sony storr and see for your self x9000h vs x8000h vs x7500h for you self.....and see if the pq worth it or not...

Say you got 5-6k as yr budget and yr looking for the best 65inch tv you can get. Mostly used for astro / Netflix / Prime with gaming down the line. What would you pick?

I would like to provide an update:

So i have bought a 65" LGNANO79.

It has been 4 months now.

So the following are my user experience:

1. LG WEBOS is absolutely snappy.
2. Magic remote makes a whole load of difference.
3. WEBOS store on LG Malaysia is severely lacking on APPS.
4. Main Netflix, Prime, Youtube is available.
5. Others (Disney+, Hulu, HBO Max) not available.


Before continuing:

IMPORTANT: there is a huge difference in your tv viewing habit. if you are usually watching tv in the day time and your night time viewing is with ambient light or some sort environmental lights ....then edge light led panel is fine.

bear in mind that the panel light spill over is quite obvious in a dark room. when i bought it, i was thinking more of how my family was watching it but then realised how important it was when the night time viewing was significant. not saying that it was terrible but it is noticeable.

on the other hand, the VA panels have a way better black color reproduction and is better at night time viewing.

So as a summary, mid range 65" tv usually comes in VA panel and Edge light panel (usually dual or quad). Samsung is VA and LG is edgelit.

so now comes the deciding factor - WEBOS vs TIZEN. WEBOS wins hands down.

If circumstances were different, i would have gone for a full array led (LGNANO86) which is obtainable if it was not a urgency. one of the most complete tv in the market.

i have came to realisation on how important the idea of having a OLED when it comes to viewing experience. maybe one day in the future i shall get that.

so lets continue:

6. Cant install or sideload apps on webos.
7. no VPN
8. apps designed are native and works flawlessly.
9. smart home functionality.
10. I have bought google tv chromecast 2020 to supercharge my tv and it is also amazing. now its complete. but was it necessary - TRUST ME WHEN I SAY, you wont use it as much as you think you would.

so yea, please do drop me any question and i am more than glad to answer it. after going through so many tvs and researching before purchasing and now being a user for 4 months. it has been interesting learnng curve.

cheers.

Congrats on the 65" LGNANO79 purchase. I too am on the lookout for a new TV and think 65 inches is what I am looking for. Have you tried it with Astro? How does the upscaling look like?

If you are looking for the best deal , there is this display unit for 65 " Q90R still looking for new owners in Desahome for RM6999 and you can probably get some bargain off it .

Just make sure you get a good warranty period off them .


You don't always need to buy the newest LCD line up as very little has improved in the past few years .


New = marketable . And when it is marketable , it is going to be quite pricey .

This post has been edited by Convael: May 11 2021, 07:41 PM

I moved from a 50" to a 65".
I think 65" is a sweet spot.
But after using a 65", I do feel sometimes I could also do a 75".
For now the size is just good till my next upgrade.

It works flawlessly with astro.
My family watches quite a no of channels on astro on daily basis which is just full hd. The upscaling looks natural.

LG seems to have a better color reproduction and hdr capabilities for mid range TV.

Without a doubt lg is a TV to go with. I do not suggest buying a TV with android as its not gonna have on going support after 5 years. Its better and more worth it to have chromecast if.... Iffffff really need it. But from my experience.... I rarely use it.

So at the moment... I am satisfied and feel secure with my purchase.

Oh wow, that's a real good steal.
I would have gone for it as I was looking at it. A full array VA panel (note not actually full array as its only 16 zones lit)
Nevertheless, it was a new TV that was in my radar when I was shopping.

The only reason I had a difficult time deciding on Samsung is the operating system, the color reproduction and its upscaling that seems to be too weird for my liking.

Anyone whom can wait, I would suggest to get the MICROLED models that gonna be out very soon.

If can't wait, then these and any current 2020 models are good buy.

Also, something I learned after getting my TV is the idea of getting a full set which includes a soundbar or a sound system. If you already have (I have one. Using onkyo. Old but works) then you are good to go. But if you don't, you should take a soundbar in to consideration. Just saying.

Thanks for the quick reply!

I've spent hours last night looking at all the reviews as I truly am an "reviews and awards" kinda guy as it helps me sift through marketing gimmicks.

Not been able to come up with a solid conclusion. I like your Q90R suggestion, however it has been run a lot as it's a display model. Great suggestion none the less.

I've been looking at brands like TCL and Xiaomi as both offer 65 & 75 inches. However I can't seem to pull the trigger on it.

I'm in no rush as my current TV is functioning perfectly well abit being only 40 inches. I do have a 50 inch samsung in the bedroom but it does not have astro, unfortunately.

I guess the search continues....

I'm very happy know that the LG upscales well as It's a very important criteria for me. I'm in the same boat about the software as you can always plug in the latest and greatest TV boxes ( I've used Apple TV and Mi Box and my money is on Apple TV if you can afford it) once the original software reached end of life. What is more important is the panel and the color configuration etc etc, the meat of the device, if you will.

On the note of the sound bar, yes totally but unfortunately my TV area is an open space and sound really travels. Oh well, can't do much there.

I am the exact opposite, I would read reviews to a certain extend only. Numbers matter more than reviews IMO. 😂

I am also searching for 65" as well.

any comment for Huawel Vision S ?

Go for 55" OLED around 6k more satisfy

What numbers are you referring to?

Burn out is something I am worried about. The dream is OLED ofcourse, but that's like the next step.

numbers like luminance, SDR HDR brightness, DCI P3, color volume and etc.

Have you checked out rtings.com? They run comprehensive tests. Sometimes numbers don't translate into great real world results. Just IMO.

Hi all, I'm currently looking to get a 65' TV as well

I'm leaning towards TCL 65C716, at the moment.

The TCL mini led, or even from other brands that was announced late last year is an interesting choice as well, any idea when will those TVs is going to be released?

TCL 65C716 - Can you get this in Malaysia through official channels?

im surveying for a new tv for my new house as well.
based on my current research,
from urs and ur parents viewing distance,
65 inch is a bit too small.
better go for 75 inch and above.
for living room i think x90h series should be quite nice for you.
go for samsung or lg lcd only if budget is ur concern.
go for OLED only if u r viewing in a completely dark room.

This post has been edited by yujin86: May 12 2021, 03:54 PM

Got TCL in lazada/shopee? But the TCL C716 here is the 5 series, vs the 6 series that got good reviews in the US reviewers.

I'm considering HiSense U800QF as well, but again, this version is not similar to the H9G that's received good reviews in the US.

Unfortunately this is true. We are not getting those best rated models.

Let me make your life easy.
After going through so much reviews and talking to so many people including with all the major retailers.

The following is my conclusion.

1. Salesman at all retailers are just knowledgeable to certain extent.
2. Usually they try to upsell their house brand tie up or something called an event model(this is a thing, where major retailers will take a SKU from big brand and rebadge it)

- example: my LG NANO79 is not available as a official model on website. the official model is LG NANO81. (its the same)

2. Don't listen to too many peoples feedback. too many information spoils your own mind and objective.

3. your spatial environment + viewing habit is crucial in deciding the type of tv. not the brand of tv.

4. brand of tv is only decided as a peace of mind.

5. take, take, take the 5 years extended warranty. (you can sleep soundly). this entails a 1 to 1 replacement of the same model or a current model or of a similar value from any brands)

6. I went to Senheng, TBM, Harvey, the ss2 shops(got 3), some smaller retailers(cant recall). I think Senheng gives much value for money and TBM for the security(made friends with someone there)

7. Edge Lit LED, Full Array LED, OLED, MINI LED - Definitely MINILED and OLED

8. QLED falls under a Full array LED - usually 16 zones.

9. Processors in the market is usually Dual core for entry and mid level models and Quad Core for certain Mid Level to High end model.

10. Samsung - Colour reproduction is to POPPING.

11. LG - for me its good colour reproduction.

13. Chinese brands - big upsell is the android functionality. (i wont suggest it). Usually it comes with all bells and whistle but with no ongoing or limited support.

14. Sony - good for high end models. (for midrange models - processor, image trailing, android...)

15. if budget can be around 6-7 - Please consider full array, MINI LED or OLED(55)

16. 2020 models of OLED has built in screen refreshes that reduces the burn-in. but then again the idea of OLED burn is not to be fussed about as you are not running it like a shop display unit.

18. You may think the view habit is more during day time but you might be surprised how much of a difference it makes when (if you are like me) watch at night in a pitch dark living room.

19. i still standby the 65" size as it would be the best viewing for any distance. in my case, i tested again yesterday , standing behind at 23 feet , it still looks amazing. went back to sleep in front of the tv (10 feet) looks good. my tv is on the cabinet as high as my hips.

20. 75" was my initial thought as i could have gotten it for the same price but after checking the upscaling and the current content from netflix, my OCD, ADHD or whatever DD's would kick in so badly.

21. the only thing i nitpick now is my choice of going with edgelit panel instead of full array. (not zoned ones) because at night the light splll over is obvious. but its best for a dark scene (like really dark scene)

CONCLUSION:

LG, SAMSUNG, SONY - just pick one of these

PANASONIC - stay away

Chinese Brands - TCL, XIAOMI, SKYWORTH - Good not bad but not Great.

SAMSUNG(VA Panel/QLED) - Processor, OS, colour reproduction - Redflag

LG(Edgelit/FullArray/OLED) - Apps

Got money - go for 55 OLED

Want big size - go for Full array 65

Too much money - go for 65 OLED

GILA - go for 75 and above OLED

Selamat Hari Raya.

Bro, point 7 - mini led and Qled, is the same?

Why stay away from Panasonic?

Selamat Hari Raya!

MiniLED and QLED is different. You probably need to do a lot of crazy reading like some other to know what these are.

Honestly, the advice by anonymous4privacy above sounds like the simplest/easiest I can give most people also. Pick a budget and then pick a model from Samsung, Sony, LG.

Even reading reviews online can end up being more confusing because these brands don’t release the same thing across the world. Why you read as an amazing panel in US sites may end up being crap in Malaysia.....and you actually pay more for it in Malaysia.

About Panasonic, I actually disagree about staying away. Their flagship GZ2000 is the best OLED TV in terms of picture processing. It’s just that the flagship was never sold in Malaysia, and I don’t see any reviews on their lower end models.

This post has been edited by calkh: May 14 2021, 05:22 PM

TO OP, I agree with what most ppl said about OLED. If your budget can stretch to 6k, those 55” LG CX models from last year is the best you can get.

OLED is a straightforward but expensive choice. All other LCDs, you have to deal with a headache inducing mess of spec - some which are unknown.

I just started my research and oh boy, there is so much to read...very pening! I'm not in a rush so i'll keep narrowing down my options.

My goal :65 - 75 inch TV

OLED, dont think I can afford it, for 65 inch and above.

Still need to check some reviews and see what if the best model I can get.

Max budget is RM8k. Plus minus 500.

I would like it to last me at least 10 years.

u can get LG BX 65 now for 7.7k, and Sony A8H 65 for 8.7k(a bit topup needed from your budget).

Saw on shopee lot of listing for Sony 65'' A8h selling at RM8xxx (2 years warranty), with another 10% cashback.
So, if including those cashback, it seems like fitting his budget??

I bought a8h from senq recently, if including those ez credit rebate, the total cost is around 72xx (including 600 old tv trade in, 500 voucher I got from credit card , and 2+2 warranty).

This post has been edited by BChLZ: May 17 2021, 12:09 PM

Wow, this is very good price considering 4 years warranty. Do you mind sharing what's the base costs for senq and where you get the old tv trade in deal? I am also surprise A8H can get at RM8800. Thinking of getting it for my new house.

That's a very good deal. didnt know senheng accept trade-ins. the previous tv also from senheng i reckon?

It just TS stuck on a budget...Should take the chance last year when Best Denki offered 65" 2020 X90H below RM6000 during 12.12.2020. Now, an update to X90H, the 2021 X90J is priced at RM7599 for 65" with some "better" improvements over X90H (I put a quote there as better can be different to other people). This MSRP is slightly higher priced than when X90H was introduced last year, maybe due to the current chip shortage.

This post has been edited by eclectice: May 17 2021, 06:13 PM

Currently the LG BX 65 is selling around 7.7-8.0K in shopee.

Comparing with X90J seems to be a better deal right?

It seems like the value of the trade in TV is related to the TV you going to buy instead of the TV you going to trade in.
For example I traded in my old Panasonic 42'' plasmas for rm600, as I buying a8h.
If i buy x9000h (which i targeted initially), the same TV can only trade in for rm400.
For my case, as long as the TV is functioning, they took the full trade in price, else it will be half of it.

Anyway, it seems like not all new TV is offered with trade in, can check senq website to know though.

The previous TV wasn't bought from senq.

I think the listed price was RM12599.

- The shop discount rm2000
- trade in old tv rm600
- my credit card voucher rm500
- 15% ez credit rebate of the 12599 list price.
- the sales guy gave me another rm377 discount.

For TV trade in, please refer to my reply above.

By the way, to get 4 years warranty, you need to be citi plus one member of senq.

I don't see a8h listed in senq website anymore though.

This post has been edited by BChLZ: May 18 2021, 12:55 AM

Hi, I am also looking for a new TV to replace an old one at home.
Currently I am using a 12+ yr old Philips's LCD and a 7+ yo Panasonic Viera.

My budget is around 6k and having read reviews for the past few days, I am leaning on Sony X90H.

My question is, is it worth it to consider a 55' LG BX series (same price range) or CX series (add 1k)? Looking at Rting, both OLED scored much better.

I will be mainly using the TV for streaming, unifi box and android box.

for dark room like bedroom go for OLED.
for bright room like living room i think X90 series

Hi guys, is samsung 65" AU9000 is a good buy now?

Honestly, I don’t think any tv will last you the full 10 years without major degradation.

OLEDs will probably degrade faster than LCDs, so choose LCD if you want long life. Having said that, my old budget Samsung LCD lasted about 7 years before the screen started to lose brightness. It happened over large areas of the screen - all colors seem to fade to white.

That pretty much applies for all electronics really....7 years max life...spending more money doesn’t solve that by the way....

75" X9000H display set at RM7400 with 5 years warranty. Good deal?

sounds good to me, but I do not really have any experience with a display set before. However, I read that LED TV should be good for 7-10 yrs with heavy use. And with the 5 yr wrty, it should at least give you 5 yrs worry free.

I have a dilemma, if the price is not an issue, which TV should I choose, a Sony X9000H or Samsung QLED Q80T?

Went for a demo yesterday, the Q80T look super Vivid and very sharp while the Sony is a bit more natural.
I cant really see the greatness of what the review is talking all about. It looks decent to me.

I know it will be down to personal preference. Previously I have set my mind on the Sony but the Samsung do stand out. And now I am really confuse.

Should I just go with Q80T?

My panasonic plasma > 10years still kicking. So far sharp and panasonic LED 3 years without issue. I think Sony with 5 year warranty should be ok. Worry those problem just appear straight after stdard 2 years warranty.

For Q80T, just go for it is u got the budget. For me Q80T is better but my pocket not deep enough.

At the very least, try watch both TVs in their more accurate setting. Like both on Cinema mode or both on ISF mode etc

My android Tv Sony Bravia 8500E has android Pie version. But could not find Apple TV in AppStore. Anyone manage to do so?

Sideload if need to

Me using Sony Bravia 8000 been enjoying it since day 1, good screen since is IPS so very wide angle of viewing without colour shift,

Dont go for VA if you have wide viewer VA has very limited viewing angle....

Android TV the best been... already cut Astro now Netflix and other streaming...

The recently released new Apple TV app is not available for Sony TV, they have their own Apple TV app which need Sony to release firmware update to support the Apple's DRM.

You can sideload the new app & login but can't play the content. It will give DRM error..

Only some Sony TV 2017 & newer model that has received firmware update in 2021 but didn't receive the Apple TV able to use the new Apple TV app by sideload.

Here's how to differentiate the apps:-
Apple TV - Google TV & Android TV
Package name: com.apple.atve.androidtv.appletv

Apple TV - Sony TV(Google TV & Android TV)
Package name: com.apple.atve.sony.appletv

Thanks for sharing

Anyone with Bravia 8500E can confirm Sony’s claim?


Attached thumbnail(s)

Should be available in play store unless yours is running older android version

Hi all,

49" samsung mu6100 just died on me.(4.5 years)
So looking for a replacement tv.

Requirements:

1. 4k upscaling of all content lower than 4K resolution
2. 55" - 65"
3. Budget - 5K and below

Eyeing few models as below at 1st glance now. To evaluate further in detail. Hope to get some feedback.

1. Samsung AU9000
2. Sony X90H/x9000H
3. Hisense U800QF
4. LG UN8100PTB

This post has been edited by thana146: Jun 6 2021, 10:50 AM

Sony X90J rm4999 today only:
https://shopee.com.my/product/66318056/3350...10-1622961110.9

i'm on latest Android based on rev in Sony Malaysia website. Still doent have appletv. maybe i will try side load

bought entry level 65" TCL P715 . (around 2.4k after shopee cashback)

- android tv 9, works well , with disney+ on playstore
- basically, i'm juz looking for a basic 4k android to replace 10yr plasma which dieded
- no complaints, off course , my first 4k tv, everything looks better. i do know some of the technical terms on TV definition, but i'm not into digging in them knowing this is a entry level
- i did consider mi 4s, but due to region variation, no official warranty, i backed off.

I tried the Sony apk version sideload. As you said it has error and ask me to update. BraviaX8500E version won’t be getting Apple TV I guess

A few days ago released new version ....

Apple TV (Sony Android TV variant) 3.1
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/apple-inc/app...tv-3-1-release/

and BRAVIA CORE (Android TV) 1.1.5
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/sony-pictures...d-apk-download/

That's expected. Sony need to update the TV with newer fimware first that has the required DRM for Apple TV app..

Maybe can try to watch on TV web browser.
Iinm, Sony TV comes with pre-installed web browser on their Android TV or you can try JioPagesTV browser which is built for Android TV with EME(Widevine) support..

Someone did test the latest app & doesn't work..
The only way to have the app working is by updating the TV firmware..

The Bravia Core has nothing to do with Apple TV app. It is a separate service provided by Sony Pictures.
Also, the service is only available on new Bravia XR model & not available for Malaysia.
Refer: https://www.sonypicturescore.com/faq/EN/us

Yes i tried ver 3.1 downloaded this morning on x8500E. Doesn't work

I am new into this discussion. Might be a bit late.

Does anybody know which model or brand is using IPS technology? I read most TV are using VA panel and scouting thru many models in shopee and laz most of the sellers don't indicate what are the panel use.

For example MI TV P1 55", they never indicate what type of panel using. I can only guess it is LCD?

Would like to get some comment on below:

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/tcl-65c7...547Sfu&search=1

Is this TV good?

Hey bro,

There is a dedicated thread here for this TV : TCL C716


Cheers,
V.

Anybody bought any 65" recently? Can share what model and review? I just saw a Samsung 65" 7 series .....didn't get the model exactly was on display in aeon showing euro2021 football promo. The resolution n display was bad especially when near.

Could it be u have vpn in home network connected to other country?

I could never figure out what 65" 55" TVs, etc. mean, some incomprehensible numbers that say some kind of characteristic. When I bought my Samsung QN800 Neo QL 65, it was explained to me that this turns out the size of the TV is 65 inches, which was unusual for me to understand. I am a humanitarian and it is much easier for me to perceive centimeters, so I converted these units with cm-to. If you ask me about history or literature, I can talk to you about it all day long, but math, it's too complicated for me.

This post has been edited by DennisMay: Jul 17 2022, 04:03 PM

Why do you need to convert? Most of them still list the dimension in metric. Only use imperial for product description like 50" or 75".



This post has been edited by andrekua2: Jul 16 2022, 11:24 AM

wondering if 65" is ok for 3m tv distance?