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 65" TV Advice 21/02/2021, Not in peace

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post Feb 21 2021, 12:11 PM, updated 5y ago

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so after 3 days of scouting and visiting almost all major electronics retailers in kl, i have narrowed down and also not in peace with my selection. Hope to get some clarity, advice or point me in the correct direction from the sifu's here.

previous model: Toshiba 50" LED (50L2300VM)
Manufacture Year: 2013
Problem Year: 2021 (double image)
To check: RM 150
To repair: RM 500 - 700 quoted by local repair shop - suspect ribbon problem or something. (no panel problem)
To usage years: 8 years

Decided to look for new TV.

Usage requirements:

1. Astro 4K
2. Online streaming
3. unifi Tv
4. Bluray
5. TV is the only source of entertainment in my family.
6. I love watching movies.
7. My viewing distance: 11 feet
8. My parents viewing distance: 23 feet
9. Daytime light is a lot

Specification requirements:

1. 65"
2. 4K native
3. HDR
4. Dolby Audio

Not sure:
1. HDR - 500 nits and above?
2. Dolby Vision?
3. Dolby Atmos?
4. VA/IPS Panel?
5. Get now or wait?
6. 55"/65"/75"
7. of course budget is the deciding factor but to make it simple i cant afford oled price tag of 5 digits. sadly.

From my survey:

1. Samsung 65TU8000 - RM 3,380
2. Samsung 65TU8500 - RM 3,640
3. Sony X8000 - RM 3,860
4. Sony X9000 - RM 6,000 ( bangwall.gif )
5. LG 65UN7400 - RM 3,550

Other brands not surveyed.

Currently learning towards 65TU8500 but the kicker kicked in last minute which was a 75" taking a blind swipe at me and throwing me off focused.
Not satisfied or at peace with all the picture qualities based on my survey.

Kicker:

while chatting up with all retailers, i found some retailers offering a 75" LG - 75UN7200 that retails RM 8K at RM 6.6K.
The lowest managed to chat up is for that 75" is RM 5,600(seems to be the best thus far in terms of offerings compared to any other retailers out there.)
That threw me off focused a bit.
Harvey norman comes in no. 2 with the so called focus campaign where they are offering Samsung TU7000-TU8500 at a good price.

Take note all retailers have their own extended warranty that i need to top up(senheng + 1 year free, others + 2/3 years paid)

So yeah....i hope i haven't missed anything.

The reason i am posting here is my undecisiveness and the "WANT" of having the best movie affordable movie experience.
I know "best" and "affordable" doesn't sit in the same sentence, i guess i am just looking for a reassurance from someone to nail the hammer on the coffin.

appreciate your kind assistance or advice on this matter,

Thank you.

This post has been edited by anonymous4privacy: Feb 21 2021, 12:58 PM
TSanonymous4privacy
post May 11 2021, 05:41 PM

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I would like to provide an update:

So i have bought a 65" LGNANO79.

It has been 4 months now.

So the following are my user experience:

1. LG WEBOS is absolutely snappy.
2. Magic remote makes a whole load of difference.
3. WEBOS store on LG Malaysia is severely lacking on APPS.
4. Main Netflix, Prime, Youtube is available.
5. Others (Disney+, Hulu, HBO Max) not available.


Before continuing:

IMPORTANT: there is a huge difference in your tv viewing habit. if you are usually watching tv in the day time and your night time viewing is with ambient light or some sort environmental lights ....then edge light led panel is fine.

bear in mind that the panel light spill over is quite obvious in a dark room. when i bought it, i was thinking more of how my family was watching it but then realised how important it was when the night time viewing was significant. not saying that it was terrible but it is noticeable.

on the other hand, the VA panels have a way better black color reproduction and is better at night time viewing.

So as a summary, mid range 65" tv usually comes in VA panel and Edge light panel (usually dual or quad). Samsung is VA and LG is edgelit.

so now comes the deciding factor - WEBOS vs TIZEN. WEBOS wins hands down.

If circumstances were different, i would have gone for a full array led (LGNANO86) which is obtainable if it was not a urgency. one of the most complete tv in the market.

i have came to realisation on how important the idea of having a OLED when it comes to viewing experience. maybe one day in the future i shall get that.

so lets continue:

6. Cant install or sideload apps on webos.
7. no VPN
8. apps designed are native and works flawlessly.
9. smart home functionality.
10. I have bought google tv chromecast 2020 to supercharge my tv and it is also amazing. now its complete. but was it necessary - TRUST ME WHEN I SAY, you wont use it as much as you think you would.

so yea, please do drop me any question and i am more than glad to answer it. after going through so many tvs and researching before purchasing and now being a user for 4 months. it has been interesting learnng curve.

cheers.
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post May 11 2021, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(goldwave84 @ May 11 2021, 06:06 PM)
Congrats on the 65" LGNANO79 purchase. I too am on the lookout for a new TV and think 65 inches is what I am looking for. Have you tried it with Astro? How does the upscaling look like?
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I moved from a 50" to a 65".
I think 65" is a sweet spot.
But after using a 65", I do feel sometimes I could also do a 75".
For now the size is just good till my next upgrade.

It works flawlessly with astro.
My family watches quite a no of channels on astro on daily basis which is just full hd. The upscaling looks natural.

LG seems to have a better color reproduction and hdr capabilities for mid range TV.

Without a doubt lg is a TV to go with. I do not suggest buying a TV with android as its not gonna have on going support after 5 years. Its better and more worth it to have chromecast if.... Iffffff really need it. But from my experience.... I rarely use it.

So at the moment... I am satisfied and feel secure with my purchase.
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post May 11 2021, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ May 11 2021, 07:00 PM)
If you are looking for the best deal , there is this display unit for 65 " Q90R still looking for new owners in Desahome for RM6999 and you can probably get some bargain off it .

Just make sure you get a good warranty period off them .
You don't always need to buy the newest LCD line up as very little has improved in the past few years .
New = marketable . And when it is marketable , it is going to be quite pricey .
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Oh wow, that's a real good steal.
I would have gone for it as I was looking at it. A full array VA panel (note not actually full array as its only 16 zones lit)
Nevertheless, it was a new TV that was in my radar when I was shopping.

The only reason I had a difficult time deciding on Samsung is the operating system, the color reproduction and its upscaling that seems to be too weird for my liking.

Anyone whom can wait, I would suggest to get the MICROLED models that gonna be out very soon.

If can't wait, then these and any current 2020 models are good buy.

Also, something I learned after getting my TV is the idea of getting a full set which includes a soundbar or a sound system. If you already have (I have one. Using onkyo. Old but works) then you are good to go. But if you don't, you should take a soundbar in to consideration. Just saying.
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post May 13 2021, 07:04 PM

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Let me make your life easy.
After going through so much reviews and talking to so many people including with all the major retailers.

The following is my conclusion.

1. Salesman at all retailers are just knowledgeable to certain extent.
2. Usually they try to upsell their house brand tie up or something called an event model(this is a thing, where major retailers will take a SKU from big brand and rebadge it)

- example: my LG NANO79 is not available as a official model on website. the official model is LG NANO81. (its the same)

2. Don't listen to too many peoples feedback. too many information spoils your own mind and objective.

3. your spatial environment + viewing habit is crucial in deciding the type of tv. not the brand of tv.

4. brand of tv is only decided as a peace of mind.

5. take, take, take the 5 years extended warranty. (you can sleep soundly). this entails a 1 to 1 replacement of the same model or a current model or of a similar value from any brands)

6. I went to Senheng, TBM, Harvey, the ss2 shops(got 3), some smaller retailers(cant recall). I think Senheng gives much value for money and TBM for the security(made friends with someone there)

7. Edge Lit LED, Full Array LED, OLED, MINI LED - Definitely MINILED and OLED

8. QLED falls under a Full array LED - usually 16 zones.

9. Processors in the market is usually Dual core for entry and mid level models and Quad Core for certain Mid Level to High end model.

10. Samsung - Colour reproduction is to POPPING.

11. LG - for me its good colour reproduction.

13. Chinese brands - big upsell is the android functionality. (i wont suggest it). Usually it comes with all bells and whistle but with no ongoing or limited support.

14. Sony - good for high end models. (for midrange models - processor, image trailing, android...)

15. if budget can be around 6-7 - Please consider full array, MINI LED or OLED(55)

16. 2020 models of OLED has built in screen refreshes that reduces the burn-in. but then again the idea of OLED burn is not to be fussed about as you are not running it like a shop display unit.

18. You may think the view habit is more during day time but you might be surprised how much of a difference it makes when (if you are like me) watch at night in a pitch dark living room.

19. i still standby the 65" size as it would be the best viewing for any distance. in my case, i tested again yesterday , standing behind at 23 feet , it still looks amazing. went back to sleep in front of the tv (10 feet) looks good. my tv is on the cabinet as high as my hips.

20. 75" was my initial thought as i could have gotten it for the same price but after checking the upscaling and the current content from netflix, my OCD, ADHD or whatever DD's would kick in so badly.

21. the only thing i nitpick now is my choice of going with edgelit panel instead of full array. (not zoned ones) because at night the light splll over is obvious. but its best for a dark scene (like really dark scene)

CONCLUSION:

LG, SAMSUNG, SONY - just pick one of these

PANASONIC - stay away

Chinese Brands - TCL, XIAOMI, SKYWORTH - Good not bad but not Great.

SAMSUNG(VA Panel/QLED) - Processor, OS, colour reproduction - Redflag

LG(Edgelit/FullArray/OLED) - Apps

Got money - go for 55 OLED

Want big size - go for Full array 65

Too much money - go for 65 OLED

GILA - go for 75 and above OLED

Selamat Hari Raya.



 

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