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Confused Ant
post Mar 7 2021, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(trespasser @ Mar 7 2021, 12:32 AM)
Pardon for my ignorance we're not informed got this mode. My apologies. Will the power mode remained everytime the engine is off?

If is like the auto start stop feature its really a hassle.
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I think its just a switch to improve throttle response just like the overdrive button in Gen1 Myvi.

Btw how is the thigh support? I saw one picture in PT where driver and back passanger was seated and both of them have herrondous thigh supports. Long journeys will be unpleasant for sure.

Edit: Missed your #2 point. Okay thigh support is bad.

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KopiMalaysiano
post Mar 7 2021, 01:34 AM

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Not bad. X50 looks better. Could have chose a better name, this car looks more lady compared to x50
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post Mar 7 2021, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(trespasser @ Mar 6 2021, 10:12 PM)
lol not sure what you mean by that but i try my best to answer.

just the usual affair but the start engine button is bigger on Ativa than X50, Fancier screen too and big font on that speedo reading too.
mixture of pedal to metal and normal drive during test drive.
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Looks like all variant have power button.

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trespasser
post Mar 7 2021, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(Revoz @ Mar 7 2021, 11:44 AM)
Looks like all variant have power button.

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Is it like those aftermarket throttle controller install on Alphards? What's the long term effect on drivetrain if constantly use this mode apart from increased fuel consumption?
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post Mar 7 2021, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(trespasser @ Mar 7 2021, 03:33 PM)
Is it like those aftermarket throttle controller install on Alphards? What's the long term effect on drivetrain if constantly use this mode apart from increased fuel consumption?
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rasa butang ni,
halang masuk overdrive/gear 4/5,
makan minyak naik,
suhu gearbox naik,

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post Mar 7 2021, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(Confused Ant @ Mar 7 2021, 01:13 AM)
I think its just a switch to improve throttle response just like the overdrive button in Gen1 Myvi.

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QUOTE(kllonely1 @ Mar 7 2021, 07:04 PM)
rasa butang ni,
halang masuk overdrive/gear 4/5,
makan minyak naik,
suhu gearbox naik,
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What I feel is,the buttons remaps the throttle pedal sensitivity and keeps the gear ratio low, so that more torque is available with less pedal movement
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post Mar 7 2021, 07:30 PM

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I've been looking for info on the ACC. Max speed for ACC is how many kmph?
TSRevoz
post Mar 7 2021, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(trespasser @ Mar 7 2021, 03:33 PM)
Is it like those aftermarket throttle controller install on Alphards? What's the long term effect on drivetrain if constantly use this mode apart from increased fuel consumption?
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Ya myb like those throttle controller. Usually if it original factory made by car manufacturer power button wouldnt give long term side effect one.
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post Mar 8 2021, 11:31 AM

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A Toyota Raize owner from Singapore joined one of the Ativa FB group. His has a Defi gauge install to monitor the turbo boost info for his car. This is his statement about the PWR button :

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post Mar 8 2021, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(4WD_er @ Mar 8 2021, 11:31 AM)
A Toyota Raize owner from Singapore joined one of the Ativa FB group.  His has a Defi gauge install to monitor the turbo boost info for his car.  This is his statement about the PWR button :

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maksudnya?

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post Mar 8 2021, 11:44 AM

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You get the full 98 horsepower and 140NM torque only when you press PWR button !
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post Mar 8 2021, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(4WD_er @ Mar 8 2021, 11:44 AM)
You get the full 98 horsepower and 140NM torque only when you press PWR button !
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jadi pwr off - jimat minyak?
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post Mar 8 2021, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(kllonely1 @ Mar 8 2021, 11:46 AM)
jadi pwr off - jimat minyak?
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Normally power up mmg makan myk.

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post Mar 8 2021, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(trespasser @ Mar 6 2021, 08:39 PM)
Went to test it at SS2 branch with friend after breakfast, nobody is there so car is available immediately when we're there.

Showroom showed H variant but test drive model is AV variant. main 2cents as below:
1. Powertrain is good enough only for flat road cruising but at the stretch leading to Seapark, at standstill slope the car really struggle to climb up (with 3 pax on board). Pedal to metal, the lag is noticeable and really underpower. 1.5L engine turbo will make this an instant winner. On flat road its ok but still, lag all across.

2. Legroom for short person is fine but for 6ft ppl need to adjust front seat if sit at back and vice versa else knee will touch the seat/ glovebox. Because I have long thigh the seat only cover half of it. To me is a cramp car.
Seat wise I like fabric more than leather coz I felt the leather in AV is too synthetic for my taste. Your mileage may vary.

3. Fan/ AC temp control much prefer knobs than buttons. The one fascinates me is the trunk tray basically you got 2 level. One is flat with seat, another is the tray stow it one level lower so you got deeper trunk space. I'm a fan of it. The rear boot cover is fabric and looks very easy to koyak.

Subsequently went to test drive Proton X50 nearby. Everything inside is a big step up compared to Ativa. But the cabin lighting is broken when we tested it. It remained on no matter what the salesman do.
1. The power is really biggest noticeable difference as it got additional grunt compared to Ativa. Suffice to say its miles ahead better.

2. I like the tactile feel on the switches when pressing on it. It feels solid and good compared to soft mushy sensation on Ativa. Then there's the nicely knurled knobs controlling AC and the clicky feell when rotating it.

3. Same high spec comparison, inside is ebrake, Beemer style gear lever, 2 tone interior, white colour cabin light, eco and sport mode instead of start stop function on Ativa which I hate it very much especially the thud when it restarts the engine, pressing P button helps you engage ebrake automatically.

4. Waaaaaaay more roomier at both front and rear than Ativa. Can't fight at all.

5. Stupid Proton signal stalk on left side. Salesman said conti cars also like that. I say Proton of all things you go copy the worst part, ppl do like that so you also do like that? The salesman smile saja. Conti dont design car out of proportion like Persona that you dont copy? bangwall.gif  doh.gif

6. Storage behind the gear level just weird, cant even fit in a phone with flip case. Storage space below the gear lever also some are not usable space.

7. 360 camera on X50 is gooding. Too bad not available on Ativa.

Granted there's almost 30k diff between the 2 top specs but I just wanna highlight what we experienced. In short if budget allows, go for X50.

In terms of getting car, the Perodua branch we asked informed us first batch got 4k units within 1-1.5months can get the unit, without limiting any colours or variants. He claimed most ppl upgrade to AV get the red colour instead. How true we dont know. 2.19 for 5 yrs, 2.14 for 9 years assuming 10% DP. 7 yrs exact interest forgot but is between the 2

Proton meanwhile need wait 6 months to get the car, majority being top specs red colour sold.

Finally buying experience, when we step in Perodua the salesperson greet us, pass us the brochure and pricelist, tried to explain all the features, encourage us to take longer loop during test drives, answer all questions whenever possible. Overall 5 star hospitality.  thumbup.gif

Proton meanwhile, step in the 4S centre the salesmans keep playing their phones. Nobody approach us and we need to actively ask around to see it. Barely explain features during viewing and test drive. We need to discover the features ourselves. Pricelist no ask also no give. Day and night difference between Proton and Perodua.

Apologies for the long post.
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Isnt it too soon to high rev new engine especially still under 1k milleage? Like it still feel tight n heavy. Need time to break-in. Not sure how newer engine now a day la. Lastime most new engine need some time or certain milleage to break-in.
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post Mar 8 2021, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(trespasser @ Mar 6 2021, 08:39 PM)
5. Stupid Proton signal stalk on left side. Salesman said conti cars also like that. I say Proton of all things you go copy the worst part, ppl do like that so you also do like that? The salesman smile saja. Conti dont design car out of proportion like Persona that you dont copy? bangwall.gif  doh.gif

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5. I got a friend that used to own Proton, trade in for new Toyota. He much prefer signal on left cuz it's easier to eat/drink/phone while driving lol. Makes sense actually lol.
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post Mar 8 2021, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Mar 8 2021, 03:27 PM)
5. I got a friend that used to own Proton, trade in for new Toyota. He much prefer signal on left cuz it's easier to eat/drink/phone while driving lol. Makes sense actually lol.
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And for dinosaur people who drive MT would prefer it on the right for intense moment
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post Mar 8 2021, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 8 2021, 03:46 PM)
And for dinosaur people who drive MT would prefer it on the right for intense moment
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I drive MT, and i prefer it on the left. Got used to it, Conti cars majority signal on the left too, here, UK, Ireland, etc.
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post Mar 8 2021, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Mar 8 2021, 05:22 PM)
I drive MT, and i prefer it on the left. Got used to it, Conti cars majority signal on the left too, here, UK, Ireland, etc.
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Mine MT too on the left, like u said already get used to it, not a major problem but it's the little thing that can make it better.

Conti on the left because their car usually left hand drive and gear level on the right
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 8 2021, 05:25 PM)
Mine MT too on the left, like u said already get used to it, not a major problem but it's the little thing that can make it better.

Conti on the left because their car usually left hand drive and gear level on the right
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Naw, given a choice, I'd still prefer it on the left, something about coordinating i guess, just concentrate all frequent actions on left hand i guess : shift gears, tweak radio, ac, signal, while right hand just twist car key and wipers.

Also, I can't get my friend's opinion out of my head anymore, he does made me realise, it's much easier indeed to snack and drive, it annoys the heck out of me trying to snack in a car with signal stalk on the right lol.
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Ma pren rike signal on right cos can left hand squeeze booby and easy bj in car.

Lulz!

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