Not interested with F! Quick Sync > all

4800c19 2x16gb so sweet

They got no stock at the moment though.

I'm considering 9900K as well. Save money on mobo.

1. nothing uses avx512 unless you want to run complex scientific calculation. their avx2 shows 60C adjust to our ambient temps then perhaps 70C.. as comparison my ryzen 3600 hits 80C with avx2 on a 120mm aio. So gaming temps i would expect 50c range.

2. the cooler they use is a thermalright extreme cu from 2006. I own that cooler before.. even the old school socket 1366 i7 920 4c8t runs at 70-80C. really no eyes see lolol, It’s probably only as good as a modern 120mm aio.

3. nda havent officially released so are the bios. Just as ctskl mentioned... If you check one china review on bilibili who went to investigate why the lower fps, they found that the gpu is running at pcie 16x gen1 due to unreleased bios.

1. I’d like to point out that Dr Ian from Anand has been doing in depths reviews since Sandy Bridge days. The usage of the 10 year old air cooler is obviously so that they can compare measurements with previous intel gen CPU’s using the same cooler. apples to apples comparison mah.

2. Can argue about beta bios/microcode all day long. It’s like the agesa story, it never ends. Fact is can see already the IPC improvement. At BEST it will go blow to blow against Ryzen’s 5000 but temps are pure physics man. If you’re getting more than 200w draw (AVX2) for cpu alone then by all thermodynamic laws it will output more heat than the next equivalent.

Let’s just face it, intel lost this round. Better luck next time.

10900K hit 200W too but with 2 more cores, showing there's indeed a regression in power consumption per core. While it's still too early to tell, 11900K's efficiency advantages probably will all be used in extra clockspeeds... and early pricing suggests Intel is positioning it against the 5900X anyway.

While CPU temps are not as hot as Ryzen for the TDP, there's also how much heat is being expelled out of the PC to the room, this matters when one isn't using air conditioning in Malaysia. Ryzen having a small CPU die and thus has worse heat transfer to the IHS is a known issue. There's still the other issue on how to dump 200++ watts of heat out vs ~142W from the 5800X. The only way to avoid this while sticking to Intel, unfortunately, is using a 6-core and not overclocking... and the RKL benchmark really suggests overclocking is what's required to close the gap against Ryzen in performance.

As for AVX-512 - TBH while there's a use for it, most real world consumer applications that can benefit from it are better off running CUDA/OpenCL and using the GPU anyway... Hence why I think the 290W power draw on Anandtech is a bit overblown.

By the time there are more than a handful of mainstream apps that utilizes AVX512, RKL would be a pointless chip already.

Why not just buy a non-K CPU and bypass the turbo limits? Not sure if the 120 will hold an all-core overclock on sustained loads...

i heard that what type of devices plugged in affects too and also the gpu and amount of sata drives. Because this problem seems to be an overloading issue and that the power settings is unable to sustain. That’s why disabling C state or turning the gen4 pcie and perhaps m.2 interface to gen3 helps to a certain extend. sadly these method doesnt work for me.

Sadly for me, I have a full sim racing rig with H shifter and handbrake, 2 external hdds, USB DAC and 2 keyboards. The dropoff issue happens immediately. I need to constantly manually connect and disconnect devices in order to get it to work.. just switching off the sim rig doesnt work as well. i must unplug the USB.

Even with unplugged USB

And you also proved that this issue is not specific to 500 series motherboards because i am also having USB drop offs with B450.

All the above, and the idle temp issue and some occasional crashes is why I changed to intel.

The issue wasnt that serious when I was using a GTX1070.. but when I upgraded to RTX2080, it started happening more frequently. I thought its PSU problem so I upgraded from 600w to 750w... end up no diff lol. Then when I thought it's the RTX2080 being faulty, I changed to RTX3080 and the problems gotten worse... to the point that the keyboard and mouse will randomly disconnect. Changed to B550 also didnt solve the problem. So I gave up.

personally 10900F become super tempting for RM1.5k. But will wait to see how big the gap between 11700k 11900k and 10900F

was looking at 10700f + b460m mortar. Then RKL incoming, so why not B560, but MSI pulak putting Realtek ALC 897 audio on B560 boards.
The B460 came with ALC 1200. What gives ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/...s_running_with/

Anandtech is running their 11700K below Rocket Lake's real world performance... But that is due to Intel's screwed up default settings on non i9 Rocket Lake CPUs where memory is only using synchronous mode at DDR4-3200 on i9, 2933 on everything else.

So real world performance due to latency etc would be better than the review suggests for enthusiasts, but less than knowledgeable builders will be scratching their heads and wondering why the CPU performs worse than Comet Lake in gaming, let alone Zen 3.

Thanks. I think I'll go for E.

asus mobos. other than maximus. i wouldnt buy them.

strix gets nerfed.

Intel non K CPU clock speed is lower and running 240mm AIO. 11900K will be hot, just like 10900K. Die is 40% bigger.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-rocket-lake-delidded

Mmmm 11700F is only a lil more expensive than 5600x (but cheaper than the currently scalped prices).
if these works flawlessly on z490 and can be purchased without exorbitant markup, I’m game.

Since even on the china early shakedown of the nonK 11700, it seems to be very close to a 5800x in performance but a lot cheaper. (And a lot cooler)

4200?? go higher.

u be surprise what rm500(16gb)-  700 (32gb) can do

Haha i still remember my lynnfield i5 750 reaching 200 bclk for a x21 multiplier 4.2ghz and x8 memory for a 1600mhz ddr3 on dominators.

Those were the days. I guess a change in architecture made messing around with bclk not feasible anymore.

Hi can i seek a suggestion here... can anyone advise what the most best value combination of intel i7 10th + mobo?.... im currently planning to setup my home lab that can support up to 128gb RAM if possible..