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post Mar 7 2021, 08:59 PM

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real farking lazy reviewers
example hardwareunbox

they have the cpu nearly a month.. just tested day 1. stopped. will wait till release date to do game benches via intel guideline
because all so stupid to test the cpu

literally lazy .

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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Mar 7 2021, 09:41 PM)
Steve went on holiday as per their video, seems he is the review guy.

I prefer Tim's work with reviewing though, he's less biased than Steve - Steve definitely has a bias towards Radeon cards.
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post Mar 7 2021, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Mar 7 2021, 10:32 PM)
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yawn.

there once was a korean

lol. he doing crazy.

these other fellas garbage bro. their timings etc on turnaround so bad.. wont even beat 4k xmp

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post Mar 8 2021, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Mar 8 2021, 10:09 AM)
air cond wasn't on at the time of playing, but my chassis isn't dust free either  sweat.gif
fun facts:  i was previously a ryzen 5 3600 user, couldn't stand the instability of the system  shakehead.gif

sold it away at higher than purchase price(thanks to the trend) and gotten myself the i7 10700 after 3 month.

intel have it's downside for sure especially with locked ram frequency on non z series board but came with much less issues and more stability.
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go rocketlake.

its epitome of cpu stability. no flaws of skylake etc


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post Mar 8 2021, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(keenie @ Mar 8 2021, 10:30 AM)
Just found out B560 only uncap ram speed on 11gen cpu, not 10gen cpu. As I checked b560 tomahwak spec. Turned down abit due to was gonna pair 10gen and b560.

It’s either 10gen + z490 or 11gen + b560.
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asrock tends to ignore such things and buat oopsy.
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post Mar 8 2021, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(keenie @ Mar 8 2021, 12:04 PM)
I’m so confused with asrock spec sheet lol.
Below is B560 steel legend memory spec.
So can or cannot ah?

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
yeah. but if u wanna bet a board maker than breaks da oc nerf of 10th gen.. it will be as rock.

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post Mar 8 2021, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 8 2021, 04:34 PM)
Manufacturers see everyone talking bad about onboard audio. Just let them have the USB DAC.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 8 2021, 04:45 PM)
Get USB DAC or Creative Sound Blaster X3. Don't need to worry about crap onboard audio.
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asus z590 extreme .. comes with dac
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post Mar 10 2021, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 9 2021, 06:19 PM)
But but.... must.... have.... TVB.....

cstkl1
How is Asus ROG Strix Z590-A and Z590-E?
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octvb on rkl unknown. it is not enabled yet

no idea.
the top of da line M
E is superb
A is awesome for djr oc

intersils are awesome.


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post Mar 11 2021, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 11 2021, 01:08 AM)
Thanks. I think I'll go for E.
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E = extreme
A = apex

not talking about strix

Hero . go for that if u are into ram oc.

of not wait and see on b560 lineup
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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Mar 11 2021, 01:40 AM)
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/...s_running_with/

Anandtech is running their 11700K below Rocket Lake's real world performance... But that is due to Intel's screwed up default settings on non i9 Rocket Lake CPUs where memory is only using synchronous mode at DDR4-3200 on i9, 2933 on everything else.

So real world performance due to latency etc would be better than the review suggests for enthusiasts, but less than knowledgeable builders will be scratching their heads and wondering why the CPU performs worse than Comet Lake in gaming, let alone Zen 3.
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ini bukan fabric garbage.

1:1 vs 1:2 both has its merits.

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 11 2021, 09:11 AM)
Ok. Not going to push extreme RAM OC though. Maybe i'll settle with ROG Z590-A.

Very unlikely i'll get B560 though. Want CPU unlocked.
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asus mobos. other than maximus. i wouldnt buy them.

strix gets nerfed.

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Mar 11 2021, 10:55 AM)
My experience with MSI board so far is great for intel.
how is it for rocket lake?
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TristanX
msi better on mid end. asus nerfs the training of ram etc

QUOTE(terradrive @ Mar 11 2021, 11:03 AM)
what kind of nerf?
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ram normally

QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Mar 11 2021, 11:09 AM)
Higher max mem OC for 1:2 I suppose, that overcomes the latency penalty?
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i ask u dis. z490 10900k most users xmp latency 40s
only ocers known how to do 30s

1:2
rocketlake 79k aida latency 45ns not good enough?? lol

1:1
62k read 38ns not good enough??


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post Mar 16 2021, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Mar 16 2021, 12:48 AM)
It even comes with thermal probes.. whew
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pricing wise cheaper than apex

hmm
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Mar 15 2021, 04:58 PM)
i9 seems to cater for the absolute enthusiast who want to make use of the OCTVB feature.

While for everyone else, the 11400 nonK 11700 nonK is a very capable cpu for its price. We dont know the potential yet but it seems like it will be the best choice if AMD is not gonna drop the prices on 5800x. (And for consumers who has a rational and neutral view, not those 7nm more advanced dufus) Infact even now, I can give alot of reasons why 10400F, 10700F is a better buy than 3600/5600x
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no octvb till today for 11900k

but they introduced something else ATB
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post Mar 16 2021, 08:27 AM

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easy.

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Mar 16 2021, 07:22 PM)
Red team's "fix" is coming soon but you will need wait for other people to validate that it is fixed then you need to flash the mobo bios yourself... However the problem with red team now is blue team is too cheap to ignore. Plus the B560 will change the price/performance game laugh.gif

B560 and Z590 difference is CPU multiplier overclocking and some additional features we rarely use like thunderbolt etc and general component quality. But overall if you not going to buy a "K" series processor. B560 is good enough.
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i dont know how much of da bios will be delivered down the line..

Ah... su terbaik plug and play now

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Mar 16 2021, 07:38 PM)
Thus must really wait for people to validate that the fix works and have no other side effects before jumping onto the bandwagon.
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talking about rkl & z590 bro.

amd all smoke and mirrors.
just think about it. usb needs agesa update. its just a crazy thing ppl are accepting as norm
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Mar 16 2021, 07:54 PM)
Ahh.. I think it will definitely be blocked but perhaps just like B460, at least PL1 and 2 can be set to unlimited and basic bios and ring ratio settings.

Memory maybe will be challenging to push to the limit compared to z590 but from a basic user perspective, 4200mhz cl18 seems to be easily achievable from those china previews and IMO, that's more than enough.
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4200?? go higher.

u be surprise what rm500(16gb)- 700 (32gb) can do


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QUOTE(terradrive @ Mar 16 2021, 08:43 PM)
what ram is that? at what voltage?
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1.6-1.7.. 1.8v is fine btw
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Mar 16 2021, 08:55 PM)
The IMC very solid. Can compensate crap ram with voltage... altho of course good rams can fly.

4200mhz cl18 can be achieved with very modest 1.4v. On very average kits. That's why i mentioned this number. But as ctskl said, It can really fly way above that if youre willing to crank above 1.5v
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go 4400c18 if u must.

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