But tartagila atk high wor.... I scare he 1 2 shot I died dy.

need shield character..

Then I think its time for me to include noelle into my roster.

i also headache which teamate.. currently planning

hu tao
xingqiu
bennett
noelle/ sucrose

I don't think Fantastic Voyage or Pyro Resonance helps for HuTao's damage. Her damage scales from her HP.

This post has been edited by NightHeart: Mar 3 2021, 01:06 PM

ya ka, then i change to

hutao,
xingqiu
chongyun
noelle lo or xiangling for pyro resonance

This post has been edited by dennis008: Mar 3 2021, 01:08 PM

From my understanding, HuTao's base ATK is ridiculously low. Her damage primarily comes from her HP. Which is a great concept, I applaud the devs for trying to break away from the usual ATK stats for damage & trying to make our abundant HP artifacts useful. She's so dependant on HP for damage that even a 3* White Tassel is better on her than half of the 4* polearms out there.

But she's still relatively new, most of the advises on her are from theorycrafters. Just wait a week or so first until more reliable data on her is out from the testers.

IMO I'd skip ChongYun as well. Can't see how his E or Q can help her proc melts regularly. ChongYun's only good for the 1 time melt setup for her massive burst. She gets more reliable auto attack vaporize procs from XingQiu.

Chongyun also x boleh. Her E effect wont stack with other elemental infusion.

Xiangling if she is C6(Pyro RES + Pyro DMG bonus), else Noelle for the auto breast plate protection talent when Hu Tao below 30% HP.

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My test:

No Pyro Resonance, just Hu Tao alone. 3.4k ATK with E activated.

With Bennet for Pyro Resonance, Noblesse set without HP main and substats, Hu Tao is at 4.6k ATK with Bennet Ult while E is activated, heals at 2k per tick.

But I don't like this playstyle cause Bennet is not the ideal sub-dps during Hu Tao CD. Would much prefer vape/melt reaction. Hence my current team comp is:

Hu Tao | Ganyu | Albedo | ZhongLi
- ZL shield up from a distance(to avoid pillar stealing the element), dash up, Aldebo cast E, Ganyu ult and flower, Ganyu icicle drops will trigger Albedo's blossom, then Hu Tao E and spam charge on different enemies triggering melt, switch back to Ganyu to clear out the remaining with charge shots.
- The downside is no claymore type, no water element, and sometimes Ganyu cannot keep up with her ult recharge on CD

Hu Tao | Ganyu | Xingqiu | ZhongLi
- ZL shield up from a distance(to avoid pillar stealing the element), dash up, Xingqiu cast E then Ult, Hu Tao E and spam charge on different enemies triggering vaporise, Hu Tao on CD and switch to Ganyu, Ganyu charge shot tagged monster and deal reverse melt.
- Very good rotation, no downtime at all since we can build Xingqiu with full energy recharge build, making sure all other teammates also have their ult available on CD.
- The downside is Xingqiu will mess up Hu Tao health management a little. But still manageable since it's very low.

I tested Abyss Floor 12 Chamber 1 first half with this team comp, managed to clear in around 35 seconds.
Replacing Hu Tao with Diluc and it's 1 minute long.

This post has been edited by laobeh: Mar 3 2021, 02:56 PM

all these hutao dmg is based on her HP @ 100% or 50%?

Level 80/90 (31k HP)
Talents 9/7/6

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Level 90 Staff of Homa R1:

3.4k ATK with E activated at 50% HP.
4.6k ATK with E activated at 50% HP along with Bennet's ult.

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Level 80 Staff of Homa R1:

3.3k ATK with E activated at 50% HP.
4.5k ATK with E activated at 50% HP along with Bennet's ult.

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Level 80 Deathmatch R1:

2.5k ATK with E activated at 50% HP.
3.6k ATK with E activated at 50% HP along with Bennet's ult.

Good point. Originally I wanted benette with hutao for pyro resonance. But given her horrible attack...

I think I’ll go with
Zhongli. Hutao. Xingqiu and Jean/venti.
Anemo with full VV set to reduce res.

if u really wan max dmg then surcrose

You don't want a healer in the team with Hu Tao, especially with a shield bot like ZL.

Jean brings no DPS, Hu Tao can't reach the enemies during Venti's ult.

Your best bet will be Xiangling(C6) or Sucrose with VV set.

For me I will try fit in a cyro or bow character(Diona, Ganyu, Kaeye) for better gameplay experience(to counter hammer fatui, electro cincin, flying ruin hunter etc). Hutao Xingqiu ZL combo is already deleting everything, not much incentive to add more burst damage to the team.

Yeah. Maybe I’ll just put ganyu in.

I’ve already stripped all the artifacts from Xiang Ling to put on hutao haha. Unless I strip artifacts from diluc to xiangling... I’ll need to build XL artifacts from scratch again haha.

I’ve a c3 sucrose. Would that be better than a venti?
Edit: noted on the reach issue. Maybe time to try a new character haha.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Mar 3 2021, 04:09 PM

i don't think should put zhongli cos zhongli itself can be extreme great dps... is kind of waste putting him with hutao even zl shield superb good.... on other hand, tartaglia might suitable cos tartaglia e skill also hv cd. just my point of view... hahaha... even ganyu also superb great with her ult

This post has been edited by eluna: Mar 3 2021, 04:15 PM

Yea Sucrose is good even at C0, she is only there for VV set Res passive bonus.

Alamak got Ganyu then make use of her lar, no need to up Sucrose just for Hu Tao.

Woah, all 5* team lol.

So after replacing Diluc with HuTao, it took you longer to clear the Abyss Floor?

A bit bored of ganyu d.
Too overpowered. I don’t use her when exploring or doing dailies anymore.
Only use her in the abyss haha.

Prefer characters with a bit of gimmick like Xiao or Hutao.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Mar 3 2021, 04:51 PM

No, faster clear with Hu Tao.
Hu Tao took 30s to 60s to clear each round, Diluc took 60s-90s to clear. The gap will probably be a lot smaller once abyss buff rotates.




Change Ganyu to a full support then, stringless and 4x Noblesse