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laobeh
post Feb 9 2021, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(shinichi88 @ Feb 9 2021, 05:10 PM)
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Some kind Sifu, please recommend me team for Spiral Abyss.
I didn't try Level 9 - 12 yet. My playstyle is more toward close range as I'm using mobile. Bow aiming is very difficult.

I'm still farming good artifact with Atk + Crit Rate/Dmg.
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Haha I can see that you're an eletro diehard fans, all 4 electro DPS ya biggrin.gif

You can try:

Floor 9 Team 1 - Shouldn't be too hard, just remember to occasionally go back to Seelie/warming tower
- Razor, Fischl, Xingqiu, Qiqi
Razor main carry, Fischl for Oz turret damage and generating energy for Razor, Xingqiu to provide electro-charged and + resistance as well as heal, Qiqi for superconduct and healing.

Floor 9 Team 2
- Keqing, Bennet, ZL, Chongyun
Keqing main carry, Bennet for melt ice shield and heal, ZL for shield and -RES, Chongyun to break Electro hammer shield.

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Floor 10 Team 1 - Shouldn't be too hard, just remember to occasionally go back to Seelie/warming tower
- Razor, Fischl, Xiangling, Qiqi
Razor main carry, Fischl for Oz turret damage and generating energy for Razor, Xiangling to melt ice, Qiqi fo healing.

Floor 10 Team 2
- Keqing, Bennet, ZL, Flexible
Keqing main carry, Bennet for melt ice shield and heal, ZL for shield and -RES, last slot is flexible, use whoever you see fit.

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Floor 11 Team 1 - Focus on removing debuffs so that your team can use ult like normal
- Keqing, Chongyun, Xingqiu, Bennet,
Keqing main carry, Chongyun to provide ice infusion and take down electro slimes, Xingqiu for electro-charge/freeze and energy recharge, Bennet to provide enough DPS to clear chamber 3 and remove debuffs. If you find that you have trouble generating enough energy to spam Bennet and Xingqiu's ult, try replacing one of the members to Xinyan, she can help remove debuff with her elemental skill.

Floor 11 Team 2
- Razor, Fischl, ZL, Diona
Razor main carry, Fischl for Oz turret damage and generating energy for Razor, ZL for shield and -RES, Diona for remove field debuff and healing. Level Diona to 40 or 60 will do, use either 4x maiden set for more healing power, stats focus on energy recharge and HP%. Or for budget build pair her with 2x Exile and 2x Scholar.

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Floor 12 Team 1 - Focus on DMG and less healing so that you can clear them fast enough
- Keqing, Zhongli, Xingqiu, flexible
Keqing main carry, Xingqiu for electro-charge, ZL to break geo shield, last slot can be any claymore users if you find you too slow breaking down geo shield, or healer if you keep dying.

Floor 12 Team 2
- Razor, Fischl, Xiangling, Bennet/Diona
Razor main carry, Fischl for Chamber 1, Xiangling for overload breaking geo shield, Bennet to provide ult +atk or Diona for Superconduct.


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Good luck and have fun thumbsup.gif

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post Feb 11 2021, 01:40 AM

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My transmutation result with 38x purple Cincin Mages drops, full cryo element reaction. Macam not bad.

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laobeh
post Feb 12 2021, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(happy_berry @ Feb 12 2021, 09:21 AM)
reduce the cost, not remove the farming, dumb2

it's frustrating to spend your whole day's worth of resin and in the end get shitty artifacts

i'd rather they reduce the cost so i can get more shitty artifacts as fodder
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The thing is you don't need perfect substats artifacts, at least for now. Game is easy and perfect artifacts farming is just to serve as a money and time sink for the min-maxing people.

The resin cost is fine. I only start farming artifacts at AR45, then stopped at AR50 after managed to scrap some shitty sets for all 8 chars. Then reliase that I unable to 3* abyss 11-3 and 12-3 so focus on char levels and talents instead. Finally full stars all abyss floors then start boss farming for glad & wanderer set at AR55. Now drops are so much that I wish they increase the inventory slots for artifacts to 9999, too afraid to feed those DEF & HP artifacts with the fears that future chars might need it tongue.gif
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post Feb 15 2021, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Feb 15 2021, 06:12 PM)
Guys, need some advice. I got Jean from the standard wish. Here is my team composition now.

Diluc, Xiao, Diona, Sucrose
Childe,  Zhongli, Bennet, Fischl

Main DPS is Diluc and Childe, second DPS is Xiao and Zhongli. Should I replace Jean with Sucrose and replace Fischl with Sucrose instead?
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Xiao, Diluc and Childe are selfish DPS. Having them in the same team is okay but not efficient, that spot could have gone for another enabler/support.

My suggestion:
- Xiao, Jean, Zhongli, Another Geo
- Childe, Diluc, Fischl, Bennet
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post Feb 15 2021, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Feb 15 2021, 06:50 PM)
Another Geo... Hmmm. So its either Ningguang or Traveler Geo. If I put Ningguang, will the team have too many DPS heroes instead and lack support unless I convert Zhongli to be support? I do have Skyward Atlas ( The only 5 star weapon I have from standard wish ).
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Sorry, any support based Geo char, eg Albedo, Geo MC. DONT level up ningguang, don't me wrong, she is good but still far away from Diluc/Childe/Xiao level.

You can try:
- Xiao, Jean, Zhongli, Sucrose/Barbara with R5 3* Thrilling Book
- Childe, Diluc, Fischl, Bennet

I don't favor Sucrose over others cause her Elemental Mastery potential cannot be fully utilised with your current team comp of Anemo, Geo, Electro-charge and Overload. She is better with Melt/Vaporise team.
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post Feb 16 2021, 09:17 AM

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post Feb 16 2021, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(johnsdoes @ Feb 16 2021, 09:57 AM)
Congratz.

got all 9 star but floor 11 floor 2 sad.gif. freakin monolith defend
looking forward for new rotation
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This is the new reset, floor 9 to 11 are still the same, while new floor 12(chamber 3) is a lot easier than the previous one.
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post Feb 16 2021, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Feb 16 2021, 10:16 AM)
Abyss challenges / perks change on every reset?
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Floor 9-12 will have this 'Blessing of Abyssal Moon' buffs that will change on every reset, example previously it's pick up geo/cryo crystal and it will give you CRIT, current buff is the lesser your HP the higher your ATK and CRIT.

The enemies loadout and Ley Line Disorder(debuffs) are different as well.
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post Feb 16 2021, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(zilch28 @ Feb 16 2021, 07:29 PM)
yep i just tried, its actually harder for me now that they remove geo buff and put geovishap in there, my ning is not hitting hard enough

sigh everytime a new banner character comes out they change the stage to fit them
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Hmm, for me it's a lot easier because new floor 12 the enemies are huge and always stay together side by side, unlike previously where geo shield mitachurls and pyro agents keeps straying away from each others, wasting our time chasing after them one by one. Before this best time 7:00~7:20(had to retry 20+ times), new update managed to clear it in 8:00 in first try with same team comp(Diluc Xingqiu/Ganyu Diona).
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post Feb 17 2021, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(pekkauwer @ Feb 17 2021, 09:01 PM)
any tips for tower def level 6?
my tower all 8 but sadly sometimes 5-10 mobs quick
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I used 1 Hydro at front, follow by 2 Electro, then 1 Pyro at a distance. Total 12 towers, can AFK and 1k point each round.

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post Feb 23 2021, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Feb 23 2021, 02:08 PM)
I x mahu draw 1st. Wait Tu Hao banner out 1st. If they put Rosaria in it I draw. Otherwise I skip them all. biggrin.gif

But still slim chance la because I saw Tu Hao namecard no see Rosaria namecard. cry.gif
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Rosaria namecard leaked yesterday but I don't think Mihoyo will put her in Venti banner. More likely on the second banner with less popular 5* like Jean/Albedo/Mona instead.
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post Feb 26 2021, 10:09 PM

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Wut wtf, 108 here. All 5 lanterns, missed 1 day.
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post Mar 1 2021, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(dennis008 @ Mar 1 2021, 05:52 PM)
who is excited for hutao..hopefully i can get her on my 50/50 pity...
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Am gonna get her so that can finally backbench current meta male characters like Diluc, Bennet and Venti.
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post Mar 2 2021, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Mar 2 2021, 04:13 PM)
How many characters you trained? I leveled 14 characters including their weapons all to lv80 and talents to lv6. With some to lv7 and mora was never not enough for me.
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Because talent 7 to 10 is expensive.

As an example raising talent 7 to 9 is 800k+ mora, normally you focus on 2 talents each char, that's 1.6M per char. 4 chars and that's 6.4M solely for talents.

Am having around 14 million now and I still feel not enough, it will be depleted back to less than 10M once spend on new char like Hu Tao+weapon+artifacts, then if Rosaria out in next banner, that would be another 2-4 millions.
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post Mar 2 2021, 06:07 PM

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Pui, Hu Tao test trial is with Staff of Homa & full Witch Set.

They don't even dare to demonstrate her like the others featured 5 stars with Favonius weapon and Brave Heart artifacts.
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post Mar 3 2021, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Mar 3 2021, 08:18 AM)
Managed to pull hutao last night as off banner soft pity pull.

Question is.
Witch set or lavawalker set?
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Witch set for reaction team(Melt & Vaporise), Lavawalker set for Pyro+Geo Resonance.

Highly recommend witch set, it's a waste not utilising pyro reaction.
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post Mar 3 2021, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Mar 3 2021, 01:06 PM)
I don't think Fantastic Voyage or Pyro Resonance helps for HuTao's damage. Her damage scales from her HP.
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QUOTE(dennis008 @ Mar 3 2021, 01:07 PM)
ya ka, then i change to

hutao,
xingqiu
chongyun
noelle lo or xiangling for pyro resonance
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Xiangling if she is C6(Pyro RES + Pyro DMG bonus), else Noelle for the auto breast plate protection talent when Hu Tao below 30% HP.

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My test:

No Pyro Resonance, just Hu Tao alone. 3.4k ATK with E activated.

With Bennet for Pyro Resonance, Noblesse set without HP main and substats, Hu Tao is at 4.6k ATK with Bennet Ult while E is activated, heals at 2k per tick.

But I don't like this playstyle cause Bennet is not the ideal sub-dps during Hu Tao CD. Would much prefer vape/melt reaction. Hence my current team comp is:

Hu Tao | Ganyu | Albedo | ZhongLi
- ZL shield up from a distance(to avoid pillar stealing the element), dash up, Aldebo cast E, Ganyu ult and flower, Ganyu icicle drops will trigger Albedo's blossom, then Hu Tao E and spam charge on different enemies triggering melt, switch back to Ganyu to clear out the remaining with charge shots.
- The downside is no claymore type, no water element, and sometimes Ganyu cannot keep up with her ult recharge on CD

Hu Tao | Ganyu | Xingqiu | ZhongLi
- ZL shield up from a distance(to avoid pillar stealing the element), dash up, Xingqiu cast E then Ult, Hu Tao E and spam charge on different enemies triggering vaporise, Hu Tao on CD and switch to Ganyu, Ganyu charge shot tagged monster and deal reverse melt.
- Very good rotation, no downtime at all since we can build Xingqiu with full energy recharge build, making sure all other teammates also have their ult available on CD.
- The downside is Xingqiu will mess up Hu Tao health management a little. But still manageable since it's very low.

I tested Abyss Floor 12 Chamber 1 first half with this team comp, managed to clear in around 35 seconds.
Replacing Hu Tao with Diluc and it's 1 minute long.

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post Mar 3 2021, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(soket @ Mar 3 2021, 02:36 PM)
all these hutao  dmg is based on her HP @ 100% or 50%?
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Level 80/90 (31k HP)
Talents 9/7/6

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Level 90 Staff of Homa R1:

3.4k ATK with E activated at 50% HP.
4.6k ATK with E activated at 50% HP along with Bennet's ult.

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Level 80 Staff of Homa R1:

3.3k ATK with E activated at 50% HP.
4.5k ATK with E activated at 50% HP along with Bennet's ult.

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Level 80 Deathmatch R1:

2.5k ATK with E activated at 50% HP.
3.6k ATK with E activated at 50% HP along with Bennet's ult.
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post Mar 3 2021, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Mar 3 2021, 03:28 PM)
Good point. Originally I wanted benette with hutao for pyro resonance. But given her horrible attack...

I think I’ll go with
Zhongli. Hutao. Xingqiu and Jean/venti.
Anemo with full VV set to reduce res.
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You don't want a healer in the team with Hu Tao, especially with a shield bot like ZL.

Jean brings no DPS, Hu Tao can't reach the enemies during Venti's ult.

Your best bet will be Xiangling(C6) or Sucrose with VV set.

For me I will try fit in a cyro or bow character(Diona, Ganyu, Kaeye) for better gameplay experience(to counter hammer fatui, electro cincin, flying ruin hunter etc). Hutao Xingqiu ZL combo is already deleting everything, not much incentive to add more burst damage to the team.
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post Mar 3 2021, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Mar 3 2021, 04:08 PM)
Yeah. Maybe I’ll just put ganyu in.

I’ve already stripped all the artifacts from Xiang Ling to put on hutao haha. Unless I strip artifacts from diluc to xiangling... I’ll need to build XL artifacts from scratch again haha.

I’ve a c3 sucrose. Would that be better than a venti?
Edit: noted on the reach issue. Maybe time to try a new character haha.
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Yea Sucrose is good even at C0, she is only there for VV set Res passive bonus.

Alamak got Ganyu then make use of her lar, no need to up Sucrose just for Hu Tao.

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