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ping325
post Dec 14 2021, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(kdjahhassan @ Dec 14 2021, 05:32 PM)
I found this on twitter.. insurance sifu what's are thought in this matter? It is Allianz fault or the man buy a wrong product? I think the man buy a wrong product because from the email it doesn't match with the flyers.. 😅

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From what i see the flyer information is correct , problem is whether the man is purchasing this perlindunganku or not. If he is purchasing other type of plan then it cannot be relate to this flyer. Unless he is purchasing the exact same plan/rider name as shown in flyer then its different story.

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post Jan 4 2022, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(onthefly @ Jan 4 2022, 12:11 AM)
Just for discussion sake, ILP has adjustment/increment on the premium too when it cannot sustain due to watever reason(medical inflation rising higher then investment portion,etc )

So end up ILP still need to pay higher like standalone.
What your comment?
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This is very case to case basis , as there are too many products nowadays.

Generally , both ILP & standalone , inside the contract insurance company normally put a clause stated " insurance charges *not GUARANTEED*. They got the right to increase your premium but they will notify you 30 days / 60 days in advance or so. "

When insurance company notify you that they will increase your premium , doesn't mean that you do nothing and follow. Customer always have to right to review their policy again and many option is available such as :
Option 1 : do nothing and go ahead with it , means you maintain your coverage but pay higher next month onward.
Option 2 : maintain current premium price by reducing some existing coverage , like removing some rider , reduce coverage period , downgrade medical card and so on

Some ILP or standalone did stated this clause * GUARANTEED INSURANCE CHARGES* but insurance company also smart , these type of guaranteed plan is much much much more expensive in the beginning already.

ILP then split into too many kinds , be it normal ILP with multiple add on like accident, CI , medical , life or legacy ILP similar like MLTA or some other type of ILP. All have different types of repricing possibilities in future. But if you want to compare between MLTA ILP vs Medical ILP , then of course the chances of MLTA ILP to increase is much lower.

Cheers :peace:Hope I answer your doubt.

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post Jan 11 2022, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(shaunsai215 @ Jan 11 2022, 12:59 AM)
Hi, I would like to ask, if my GF have thyroid under treatment for 1 and half year without any serious condition, is she still can buy any medical card insurance in the future?
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you can still apply as usual and declare accordingly and wait for the underwriting result.
It could be

1. Accept without any exclusion
2. Totally rejected & refund
3. Accept you but add in exclusion not covering neck / trachea part / other specific t&c
4. Accept you without exclusion but enforce loading , means you pay much more higher price than normal people

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post Jan 21 2022, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Jan 21 2022, 03:10 PM)
Hello guys

Saw this random agent sharing this coverage, is this a good deal for a RM200 per month?

Medical Card
Ward:RM200 (No claim for 3 years +10%)
Annualy Limit :RM1,500,000
Lifetime Limit:No Limit
Hospitalize MC:RM100/day
Emergency :RM2,000
NCD : 10%, 15%, 20%

36 Diseases:RM100,000
157 sickness:RM50,000
Cancel recovery:RM35,000
Dibeates recovery RM20,000
6 major sickness:RM20,000

Death:RM100,000
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AIA ?

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post Jan 27 2022, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(DwayneD @ Jan 27 2022, 10:39 AM)
Oh no, i'm not trying to beat the system ! I'm just looking for 10-20 years coverage, after which the price will get revised i believe ?
AXA offers 500k coverage at 79 RM a month for example. That's 7 times cheaper AIA's until 70 y.o. policy.

I just want to cover less and less as i grow older.
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When doing comparison try to check for their specific T&C.
Especially those key word such as level premium , step up premium , guaranteed or non guaranteed insurance charges , exclusion...
When you see something cheaper a lot or too good to be true , there must be some hidden things different behind.
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post Feb 9 2022, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(cwk_lowyat @ Feb 9 2022, 09:47 PM)
Hi Guys,

Finally decided to buy insurance after 2 years of working  biggrin.gif
Expert here please help me to review my insurance quotation

Age: 27
Premium: 280/month until 80 years old
Age coverage: 100 years old
Deductible: 300
Life/TPD: 50k
Accident life: 60k
PA: 100k
CI: 100k, 50% at early stage,100% at middle stage
Number of CI: 177
Room & Board: 150
Hospital Allowance: 100/day
Annual Limit: 3mil
Lifetime limit: Unlimited
Pre/Post Hospitalization: 90days
Non-claim Insentive: Non

My montly income is around 4.5k.
Is this a good insurance quotation?
Am I over-insured or under-insured?
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cwk_lowyat
Am I over-insured or under-insured?
Answer : After you purchase this type of normal ILP insurance , as a customer you always have the right to upgrade or downgrade the policy at any time, there is no restriction as you can keep on modify it as long as you are healthy & policy status is still active. At any point of time, where you feel the needs to add more coverage / over worried just add only. Each of the sections like CI / acccident / life can be modify.

Some people purchase insurance long long time ago and after covid happen they upgrade their coverage due to feeling under insured.
Some people purchase insurance long long time ago and after covid happen , salary cut and feel burden, instead of cancelling they can reduce coverage --> reduce premium payment.

For more info , you can just google 'insurance endorsement'. rclxms.gif

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post Feb 13 2022, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(sching @ Feb 13 2022, 06:38 PM)
Just for knowledge, is it better to split out 2 different policies - one for life and another for medical? Or better to have in one policy?
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Abit general , have to know how much life you are talking about.
If just 50k-100k then combine with medical card is fine actually , less hassle.
If you take 50k life standalone + medical card standalone , i dont think the price will be different much thou.

If you talking about MLTA kind of level , 300k-1M onwards life , then its better to split it out as its a totally different requirements already.
this is what we called legacy insurance plan.

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post Feb 17 2022, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(JustAskingOnly @ Feb 17 2022, 09:13 AM)
Guys. Anyone received sms from prudential on

1. Extend medical card to 100 years old
2. Covid 19 claim will no longer be an exclusion.
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yeah anything you would like to ask or clarify?
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post Feb 17 2022, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(JustAskingOnly @ Feb 17 2022, 10:20 AM)
What it for us ?

Seems like a nice gesture with no string attached. Sorry if I am cynical.
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1. Extend medical card to 100 years old
This is actually to inform you that prudential auto extend ur medical card expiry date to 100 years old with no question ask.
However the gimmick here is whether they will increase price or not is remain unknown.

2. Covid 19 claim will no longer be an exclusion.
Previously some medical card excluded from covid coverage , now they remove this exclusion. However they request customer to opt in via a link provided.
Not really sure why prudential dont want to implement auto opt in thou. More info can refer Prudential Malaysia Facebook Post.
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post Feb 17 2022, 03:58 PM

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post Feb 18 2022, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(daniel_g888 @ Feb 17 2022, 03:51 PM)
Hello all sifus,

I have a doubt and hope if you could give me some guidance here.

I am 41 years old and non-smoker, and just about to enter into 42 years old soon in coming April. And I have been having one insurance plan with Prudential since Y2010 when I first started to work. The plan is a very basic Pruhealth plan with just about RM188 per month, that covers the following:

Medical card annual limit RM62,500
Lifetime limit RM225,000
Room RM150/day
Life benefit: RM10,000
Critical Illness: RM50,000
Critical Illness type: 36
Hospital benefit/daily allowance: RM100/day
Plan sustainable until age 70

I know the above plan is too old and may not even be able to sustain with today's (and even future) medical cost.

So I rang my agent and just to see if I could opt for upgrade so that I could get something more sustainable, but the quote I get by increasing the annual limit to RM1 million (and no lifetime limit), and RM200/day for Room on above will get me to nearly RM400 per month premium.

But if I get a new plan quoted from GE I could also potentially getting slightly better in terms of overall benefit and coverage, yet with almost identical monthly RM420++ premium amount.

Here is the new GE plan that quoted for me:

Plan: Pruvalue
Medical card annual limit RM1 million
Lifetime limit: no limit
Room RM150/day
Life benefit: RM50,000
Critical Illness: RM50,000
Critical Illness type: 45
Premium waiver
Plan sustainable until age 80

Monthly premium: RM420
So I am a bit puzzled here. Because I was advised by many that usually customer opting for upgrade on their existing insurance plan wouldn't normally have to pay so much of the monthly premium compare to taking any new plan subscribing?? Did I miss anything?
Can sifu here guide me which option should I opt for? Upgrade existing or go with new plan from GE?

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Few factor that determine your pru upgrade price :
Just to double confirm you only upgrade your existing prudential plan by swapping the medical card only ?
Did you adjust the sustainability , CI type ?
Did you perform any cash withdrawal before upgrade ?

If you were to compare GE vs Prudential , the only factor always is medical card & CI , as this two portion price fluctuate a lot depend on the type of coverage chosen. Mind telling type of CI in Prudential and GE ? CI at least 5 types for Prudential like crisis care , crisis guard , total multi crisis care and so on.
Each of the CI have different price and functions. By mentioning 50k CI is too brief.
Some may only cover late stage only , come may cover both ,some have additional payout etc....

For example 50k prudential total multi crisis care CI is definitely much much more expensive than prudential crisis care CI of 100k.

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post Feb 28 2022, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(ICDeadPeople @ Feb 28 2022, 10:38 AM)
Hi all, looking for advise on my financial planning, esp. on insurance part. I really think I overpaid.
Anyone who provide the service can pm me, thanks.
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which insurance company ?
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post Mar 3 2022, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Mar 3 2022, 11:14 AM)
is the annual premium statement for Prudential already issued to policy holder? doesnt seems to be available to be downloaded yet for me.
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If you are referring to statement from prudential for income tax filling.
It will only be available from 18 march onwards.
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post Apr 6 2022, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(Lil.Jiro @ Apr 6 2022, 04:36 PM)
Hi Brothers,

I not very familiar with prudential and would like to inquiry on getting my own medical card for the below purpose.

Currently 34 years old, have quited smoking. Health good (everything working)

-Accidental
-income claim (lost of income due to accident)
-hospitalize
-critical illness
-surgery fees if needed
-basically cover all expenses on hospital side (stay wad, doctor fee, surgery, etc)

Wanted to know how much do i need to pay for monthly premium?
kinda low income worker so maybe some brothers can give me a head up on the monthly premium.
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You can go for protection with minimum period of coverage or must have insurance protection first if you are on budget.
Slowly as your income increase you can always upgrade the plan anytime in future. [ refer to standard investment link plan ]
We can modify our plan in future such as editing , removing add on , upgrade add on , change coverage period and so on. [provided healthy]
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post Apr 22 2022, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(chongtiensum @ Apr 22 2022, 09:19 AM)
good day to all Sifus ,

i have 0 knowledge in insurance , i am thinking to buy medical insurance to take care of my medical coverage if incase needed.
which company should i go to?
as of now i had engaged to prudential agent , but haven't got the quotation yet .

age 29
non smoker
office worker

how much i should pay monthly? as i know prudential comes with the extra sort of investment thinggy with their insurance , i read some of the comments here not to have the investment thinggy and just pay for the medical insurance only

how it work? should i go with prudential? or try different brand like GE ?

sorry for the lengthy questions .
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I suggest you can do some simple googling first or visit some of the insurance company to learn a bit more. Or else it will end up you purchased something that is not what you wanted at the first place.

Prudential , AIA , GE , Alianz are equally good, plans or pricing wont have huge differences, Its like you need to travel from A to B and asking our opinion on whether you should buy a perodua or proton biggrin.gif its very hard to give an answer on this

how much i should pay monthly? as i know prudential comes with the extra sort of investment thinggy with their insurance
Not just prudential , in malaysia all insurance plan have to go thru bank negara , all insurance company have this sort of investment thingy , not just prudential alone only.

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post Apr 22 2022, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Apr 22 2022, 06:25 PM)
Anybody know what's the price range of medical card for unborn baby? Not looking for any investment plan, purely for medical purpose.

thanks in advanced
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For prenatal plan , it doesn’t allow you just to purchase the medical card alone only. You must sign up a life investment linked policy and attach medical card into it. 😄 how much the plan cost depend on what other add on you attached into it such as accident , critical illness , parent payor , and so on…how long you want to get insured also plays an important role in calculating the price. Some people paying 200 per month some people paying 1000 per month also got 😄

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post Apr 29 2022, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(Sitting Duck @ Apr 29 2022, 11:45 AM)
Hi All,

Just received an email from Allianz stating that my life + medical premium needs to be increased by 40%. I'm currently paying about RM550/month.
Allianz stated that they need the premium to be top up by RM230/month which come up to about RM780/month.

Options given:
1. Switch your medical plan to a lower plan or product for a more affordable Cost of Insurance (COI).
2. Maintain your current premium. Should you decide on this option, it's important to note that your policy coverage may be impacted.

Feel a bit lost now and disappointed.  sad.gif

Any advice what would be best way forward?

Thanks.
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Adjust according to your budget / commitment.
If RM 780 is way too high for your current commitment , you can downgrade coverage / sustainability period.
Or else do nothing and start paying RM 780 while maintaining current coverage. cry.gif
Since covid happen repricing happen quite frequently. cry.gif
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post May 12 2022, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ May 12 2022, 06:14 PM)
Family Personal Accident Insurance.
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Before this got but nowadays no more already, have to buy life separately , at most only got spouse payor but not joint spouse life.
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post May 19 2022, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(OptimusStar @ May 19 2022, 08:21 PM)
Any suggestions ? So far i only manage to find Gibraltar BSN .
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Your option only on takaful ? Or you are open for both conventional and takaful.
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post May 20 2022, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(OptimusStar @ May 20 2022, 10:41 AM)
Thanks i will check with etiqa then and compare.
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These are some of the direct online purchase sites without going thru agent.
https://etiqa.com.my/v2/life-insurance-family-takaful
https://prudirect.prudential.com.my/prudire...hase/landing.do
https://econnect-my.greateasternlife.com/ec...-prod-catalogue


Some of the key terms that need to take note is guaranteed or non guaranteed insurance charges.
Level or step up premium. [ many non technical customer always miss out this part and only complain later on when payment spike up ]
Cover life only or both life + TPD.
Other hidden terms and condition.

p/s : Life insurance online product vs agent product is very different. It could never be the same.
Policy servicing / endorsement also works differently.


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