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KenM
post Jun 6 2021, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Jan 26 2021, 07:43 AM)
Just file your 2020 income this year. If LHDN wants you to file your 2019 income then do it. At most there will be a small fine for late filing. It's no big deal. Stop worrying about it.
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They also can check your epf contributions to see if you are truthful.
Just fill in the part to declare undeclared income and they will inform you about the amount to pay
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post Jun 7 2021, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jun 6 2021, 01:44 PM)
Creating a pin doesnt auto you qualify for a loan. Banks now look at epf as well as they know income declaration can be forged.

No credit history is not better than bad credit history..

You might need to work locally for few years to qualify as banks wants to see local income.

Work for year and submit your tax and epf. See how it goes from there.
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ok so lets take the loan out of the question.
how about avoiding a letter from LHDN
it seems like most of the time when receiving letter from LHDN.
its not a happy thing.
so i think i just want to avoid paying extra from whatever i required to.

mini orchard
post Jun 7 2021, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(ksoon28 @ Jun 7 2021, 11:25 AM)
ok so lets take the loan out of the question.
how about avoiding a letter from LHDN
it seems like most of the time when receiving letter from LHDN.
its not a happy thing.
so i think i just want to avoid paying extra from whatever i required to.
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You cannot take the loan out of the question. If you dont buy a property and take a loan lhdn wont know you have money.

Only when you start spending on big items like car or property, then you be noticed.

That is why I ask earlier whether you need the property ?
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post Jun 7 2021, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jun 7 2021, 11:55 AM)
You cannot take the loan out of the question. If you dont buy a property and take a loan  lhdn wont know you have money.

Only when you start spending on big items like car or property, then you be noticed.

That is why I ask earlier whether you need the property ?
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ok understood. big items. so if i just put my wife name and buy a house.
then maybe she will be audited.
i think definitely sooner or later i would need a house for my family.
cant be renting all the way.
im not sure about your opinion/idea on owning a house/having a family.

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post Jun 7 2021, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(ksoon28 @ Jun 7 2021, 12:53 PM)
ok understood. big items. so if i just put my wife name and buy a house.
then maybe she will be audited. 
i think definitely sooner or later i would need a house for my family.
cant be renting all the way.
im not sure about your opinion/idea on owning a house/having a family.
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Your situation to own a house is different from many others earning a local income.

If you want to buy using your spouse's name, is no issue if she is currently also earning an income. It also depends on how much is the property and the amount of loan. If she is a housewife, then is no different from your situation.

I am not saying buying property for the family is bad. Is the situation that you are facing. If you can take the bull by the horn, go ahead.

I am just sharing my opinion. Hopefully others will response and have better options.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jun 7 2021, 01:13 PM
josephchan90
post Jul 4 2021, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(ksoon28 @ Jun 6 2021, 12:57 PM)
hi all sifus, hopeful to get an answer for my situation.
i have been working as a seafarer on foreign going ships for the past 10 years.
company is based in Singapore.
haven't declare any income tax since i started working as i was told back dont have to pay income tax when i started.
however now having trouble applying for loans.
was thinking to get a pin number
maybe could ease on loan approval.
how can i explain if LHDN ask where i have been for the past 10 years?
could anyone advice if i should bother creating a pin.
or how should i proceed?
thanks you in advance for your insights.
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Hi, I have the same issue, seafarer as well for the past 9 years and counting. I have been filing income tax for 2 years now and all i do is put 0 on all column as we are not under the taxable group. I heard from my friend that we dont even need to file for it until we started to earn taxable income.

Speaking of house loan for seafarer, I’m also researching on it and come to know that my seafarer friend manage to buy property, and get loan approved with payslip and bank statement. It’s good to TT back money every month so that you have record of “stable income”. They dont have any problem with LHDN.

If you can get a credit card, go get it to prove your credit record, good for future if you need to get a bank loan. I tried to get credit card before but got rejected when they know I don’t have EPF…. Even you throw money to their face also they dont accept. Unless you know some banker or some banker who is knowledgeable of seafarer condition which is very rare in Malaysia.
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post Jul 4 2021, 06:49 AM

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QUOTE(josephchan90 @ Jul 4 2021, 12:18 AM)
Hi, I have the same issue, seafarer as well for the past 9 years and counting. I have been filing income tax for 2 years now and all i do is put 0 on all column as we are not under the taxable group. I heard from my friend that we dont even need to file for it until we started to earn taxable income.

Speaking of house loan for seafarer, I’m also researching on it and come to know that my seafarer friend manage to buy property, and get loan approved with payslip and bank statement. It’s good to TT back money every month so that you have record of “stable income”. They dont have any problem with LHDN.

If you can get a credit card, go get it to prove your credit record, good for future if you need to get a bank loan. I tried to get credit card before but got rejected when they know I don’t have EPF…. Even you throw money to their face also they dont accept. Unless you know some banker or some banker who is knowledgeable of seafarer condition which is very rare in Malaysia.
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As long a tax payer has no income for the assessment year, all he does is similar to you ... write zeros in all boxes.

LHDN wont know is zero income or non taxable group since is self assessment/declaration.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 4 2021, 10:16 AM
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post Jul 4 2021, 02:54 PM

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Can please close this thread. My issue settled earlier this year.

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