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post Jan 25 2021, 02:14 PM

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Is this your only source of income and have worked with the same employer in this same tax year? Then go google MTD as final tax
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post Jan 25 2021, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 25 2021, 01:09 PM)
What is my penalty?

And seriously I am such a small fish. Earn also barely. And I want to make things right. Not like I hiding also
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Late filing also charged 500 MYR already.
And don't think u small fish they will forget.
If 500myr for late charge, if 20k ppl file it late, easy get 10mil MYR.

Can get fined from 200-2k with jail penalty.
You honestly say I lazy to file taxes. But when you going to court you will be labelled as avoiding tax.

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post Jan 25 2021, 03:10 PM

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How can be avoiding tax? I have legally paid my tax. I have not legally filed my tax returns. Is different If I never pay at all. That is bad
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post Jan 25 2021, 03:49 PM

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Doesnt matter you pay or not, youre compulsory to do the filing, definitely gonna kena penalty, around 40% I think
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post Jan 25 2021, 03:55 PM

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Why everyone say different number for penalty?
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post Jan 25 2021, 03:59 PM

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There is a page for undeclared tax of previous year.just fill in your 2020 b form. Then the IR will get back to you to ask you for clarification.
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post Jan 26 2021, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 25 2021, 01:58 PM)
I’m salaried. So far no issue. Got cc and house loan. Car loan also will be approved soon. Usually they need payslip, epf, bank statement is enough.
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they will query you how u are able to buy all these and why didnt you declare your income. its not so simple
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post Jan 26 2021, 08:43 AM

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Just file your 2020 income this year. If LHDN wants you to file your 2019 income then do it. At most there will be a small fine for late filing. It's no big deal. Stop worrying about it.
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post Jan 26 2021, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 25 2021, 12:41 PM)
I start working in 2018. That year, no PCB tax deduction as my income just below the threshold to need pay tax.

In 2019, after increment, PCB deduction start. But I never filed returns for 2018 thinking I didn’t need to as I didn’t need to pay taxes.

In 2020, PCB deductions increase Liao. I wanted to file returns for YA 2019, but then I realised even if I file and claim some relief, I will get a couple of hundred only refund and was not worth the hassle.

In 2021, this year, I will definitely file returns for YA 2020. I have my efiling pin all sorted.

Question is, can I only start filing for 2020 and ignore previous years? It is not a case of cheating or anything. If anything LHDN would owe me money for refund due to relief claimed.

I didn’t have malicious intent, just the system seem too complicated in my initial years of working and I took things lightly.

Pls advise guys.
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TS, if u choose to declare previous years other than YA2020, u will have penalty for late submission. Think twice icon_idea.gif
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post Jan 26 2021, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 25 2021, 03:10 PM)
How can be avoiding tax? I have legally paid my tax. I have not legally filed my tax returns. Is different If I never pay at all. That is bad
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maybe someone can report this thread to lhdn and lhdn rep will show you how you're going to be punished?


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post Jan 26 2021, 11:32 AM

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I have not declare my income for more than 10 years! and i didnt submit my BE Tax form to LHDN as well. My job was not stable ( changed about 10 jobs ! ) for the past 15 years, and my salary was like 3k per month.
My last job ( about 2 years ), company paid EPF under my name.

Now i am jobless again and thinking of register a company for some small side income. ( repairing electrical goods ).

Anyone can advise will i go into trouble for the above situation ?
BTW, i am now 57 yo and considered retired now.
TQ bro, sis....
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post Jan 26 2021, 11:56 AM

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2025 then they will ask about 2019 filing. Have to spend few thou to settle it. Good luck

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post Jan 26 2021, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(yycclin @ Jan 26 2021, 11:32 AM)
I have not declare my income for more than 10 years!  and i didnt submit my BE Tax form to LHDN as well. My job was not stable ( changed about 10 jobs ! ) for the past 15 years, and my salary was like 3k per month.
My last job ( about 2 years ), company paid EPF under my name.

Now i am jobless again and thinking of register a company for some small side income. ( repairing electrical goods ).

Anyone can advise will i go into trouble for the above situation ?
BTW, i am now 57 yo and considered retired now.
TQ bro, sis....
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No problem taking out epf?
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post Jan 26 2021, 12:02 PM

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Even if you your income does not need to pay income tax, just file it.... it is good for documentation purposes... save you a lot of hassle and also make you money savvy....
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post Jan 26 2021, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(yycclin @ Jan 26 2021, 11:32 AM)
I have not declare my income for more than 10 years!  and i didnt submit my BE Tax form to LHDN as well. My job was not stable ( changed about 10 jobs ! ) for the past 15 years, and my salary was like 3k per month.
My last job ( about 2 years ), company paid EPF under my name.

Now i am jobless again and thinking of register a company for some small side income. ( repairing electrical goods ).

Anyone can advise will i go into trouble for the above situation ?
BTW, i am now 57 yo and considered retired now.
TQ bro, sis....
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As long as you remain poor, lhdn got no time for you. It takes some red flags for them to even take notice of you. For example if your new business suddenly boom and makes alot money then they will take interest because you now have money to pay. Otherwise they won't be bothered to put manpower on someone who's penalty and collection can't even cover time and resources spent.
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post Jan 26 2021, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(Noryume @ Jan 26 2021, 11:58 AM)
No problem taking out epf?
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EPF and LHDN have nothing to do with each other.

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post Jan 26 2021, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(Cmyong88 @ Jan 26 2021, 12:04 PM)
As long as you remain poor, lhdn got no time for you. It takes some red flags for them to even take notice of you. For example if your new business suddenly boom and makes alot money then they will take interest because you now have money to pay. Otherwise they won't be bothered to put manpower on someone who's penalty and collection can't even cover time and resources spent.
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If i perform an e filling this year, will LHDN backcharge me or penalty me ?

Do i need to update my account back to normal ?

Any idea ? Tks..
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post Jan 26 2021, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Jan 26 2021, 12:09 PM)
EPF and LHDN have nothing to do with each other.
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Didn't kwspnneed the tax clearance for withdrawing at 55?
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post Jan 26 2021, 12:31 PM

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Better file it now. If they found out that time too late.
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post Jan 26 2021, 01:29 PM

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In my case, what difference does it make if I file or don’t file previous years?

Either way, I kena penalty right? Doesn’t look I can escape that.

This post has been edited by contestchris: Jan 26 2021, 01:29 PM

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