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TScontestchris
post Jan 25 2021, 12:41 PM, updated 5y ago

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I start working in 2018. That year, no PCB tax deduction as my income just below the threshold to need pay tax.

In 2019, after increment, PCB deduction start. But I never filed returns for 2018 thinking I didn’t need to as I didn’t need to pay taxes.

In 2020, PCB deductions increase Liao. I wanted to file returns for YA 2019, but then I realised even if I file and claim some relief, I will get a couple of hundred only refund and was not worth the hassle.

In 2021, this year, I will definitely file returns for YA 2020. I have my efiling pin all sorted.

Question is, can I only start filing for 2020 and ignore previous years? It is not a case of cheating or anything. If anything LHDN would owe me money for refund due to relief claimed.

I didn’t have malicious intent, just the system seem too complicated in my initial years of working and I took things lightly.

Pls advise guys.

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post Jan 25 2021, 12:54 PM

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> I realised even if I file and claim some relief, I will get a couple of hundred only refund and was not worth the hassle.


what kind of statement is that.

2020 filing can still declare previous undeclared year. just declare 2019 there.

you really don't wanna mess with lhdn
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post Jan 25 2021, 12:59 PM

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i think 2019.. u need to declare with physical form..
the eLHDN is only for 2020 if i am not mistaken.

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post Jan 25 2021, 01:01 PM

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its your duty to declare every year the moment you are require to declare. If you dont even want to claim the relief you still need to declare. You better go to lhdn and check with them which year before you need to declare if not later when they check you, then you get fine kaw kaw.
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post Jan 25 2021, 01:06 PM

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declare je.....seriously, dont wait until they come korek and saman you
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post Jan 25 2021, 01:08 PM

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the onus is on the individual to declare his/her income. you are given a chance to declare yourself but you didnt take it up. you can be penalised for not filing/filling incorrectly and so on, so you took the chances.

like what siewlee mentioned, do not mess with LHDN, you will end up in more pain than you do now (figuring out on how to declare your precedent income).

Thats why, whether or not you are or you will be paying taxes or not, you should start filing the moment you started working, this way, you reduce the chance of getting audit as you have come clean since day one.
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post Jan 25 2021, 01:09 PM

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What is my penalty?

And seriously I am such a small fish. Earn also barely. And I want to make things right. Not like I hiding also
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post Jan 25 2021, 01:19 PM

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As what other had advise. You don’t want to mess with lhdn.

Go to the branch you are assigned and check with the officer there and do bring all your paperwork. Ea forms, pay slips and such.
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post Jan 25 2021, 01:23 PM

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My question is, can I file for YA2020?

Will system force me to fill for previous years?

If I get questioned I will answer honestly. That I’m not worried.
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post Jan 25 2021, 01:29 PM

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Just remember that there are 2 things in life you cannot escape.

1 is TAX

2 is DEATH

It is not your rights to say not worth the hassle. It is something you need to do as a citizen.
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post Jan 25 2021, 01:30 PM

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as long as your salary is low, no worry

just will get warning from LHDN because didnt open account
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post Jan 25 2021, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 25 2021, 12:41 PM)

Question is, can I only start filing for 2020 and ignore previous years? It is not a case of cheating or anything. If anything LHDN would owe me money for refund due to relief claimed.

Pls advise guys.
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Of course you can start filing for 2020 and ignore previous years. Its your choice. But the correct question is would LHDN ignore your previous years? The answer is no.

Fret not, LHDN won't trouble you much as they probably think you are not worth the hassle as well. They probably just calculate whatever your previous years amount would be, slapped you with whatever penalty for not paying on time and demand for payment within a stipulated timeframe. As simple as that.


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post Jan 25 2021, 01:49 PM

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If I file for 2019 now, will they provide me a refund for the relief?


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post Jan 25 2021, 01:49 PM

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2019 sudah tutup la.. Just declare for 2020. Even if they kacau you, which I doubt because you're small fish, it will be penalty only. Low income is LHDN worst enemy
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post Jan 25 2021, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 25 2021, 01:49 PM)
If I file for 2019 now, will they provide me a refund for the relief?
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It depends on the amount of the relief and the penalty imposed on you. LHDN will offset it. If the relief amount is higher than the penalty, yes, they will provide the refund.
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post Jan 25 2021, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 25 2021, 01:09 PM)
What is my penalty?

And seriously I am such a small fish. Earn also barely. And I want to make things right. Not like I hiding also
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Its troublesome later on when u want to purchase home, credit cards or get loans for business. u have no track of records
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post Jan 25 2021, 01:57 PM

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What’s the current penalty like? Any idea?

And if I file for 2019 now, how long before I get my refund and pay my penalty?
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post Jan 25 2021, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(jyll92 @ Jan 25 2021, 01:56 PM)
Its troublesome later on when u want to purchase home, credit cards or get loans for business. u have no track of records
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I’m salaried. So far no issue. Got cc and house loan. Car loan also will be approved soon. Usually they need payslip, epf, bank statement is enough.
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post Jan 25 2021, 02:02 PM

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GG la

300% penalty.

2019 and 2018 ada SVDP, and discount lagi
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post Jan 25 2021, 02:05 PM

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I think there's a 10% penalty for late submission and additional 5% if still not paid after 2 months.

Call LHDN or check their website.

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