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post Jan 7 2021, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(onepack @ Jan 7 2021, 01:45 PM)
ole back to late subs

seriously wat he expect put VDB wt 2 min left
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post Jan 7 2021, 02:13 PM

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It is not time to be Ole out. On the back of one game, just no. Ole until the end of the season. We give our managers a chance.
At the same time, it is not the time to be giving Ole a new contract. Wait until the end of the season.
This is Woodward and management being retarded by talking about Ole's contract. It was like Mou's last season where we didn't back him in transfers, gave him a new contract and then fired him later in the season.

The loss belongs squarely on Ole. I hope he learns.

The Maguire - Lindelof pairing means our defence line was going to be sitting deep. Look at the distance between our CBs and our striker. It is shorter and more compact when Bailly is playing because he is quick, it is deeper this game because our CBs are terrified of a ball over the top and starting a foot race. Don't blame the Mc-Fred combo. They got pulled all over the park. The CBs sat so deep with nobody to mark meant that City had lots of space to play in front of the defence. That meant a lof of space behind Mc-Fred, and a lot of space in front of them. They got played with triangles all game long. Don't blame our attackers, they barely got any supply. Bruno looked tired.

Let me just say the first goal is on f*cking Maguire. It may be Luke Shaw's man scoring, but Shaw was just as shocked as all of us that Maguire just let that ball go. The ball literally bounced in front of Maguire's foot and he was terrified to touch it. Like if he does and risks an own goal, he will be the new Phil Jones.

Ole's poorest atttribute is match management. He doesn't know what to do if things goes south.
We saw it against RB Leipzig where he started a back 5 protected with a double pivot. We conceded 2 goals in under 15 minutes, and he does nothing to change either the defensive setup nor the positioning until deep into the 2nd half. Ultimately, we ran out of time because the change came too late.

We see it again here. Our midfield has no hold on the game, and City scores in the 50th minute. We have 40 minutes to try get a result. What does Ole do? He waits until the 75th minute to make his first change. And only uses sub 2 out of 5 in the 88th minute, that's it. Our midfield could not hold on to the ball, he could've put VDB in there to rectify that. But he goes and plays VDB for the last 2 minutes. 2 minutes, is he taking the piss?

We lost here because of the tactics put by Ole. He chose 2 slow CBs again, and this made Mc-Fred's task impossible. When we go down, he has no answers.
He needs to learn.

Again, not Ole out. But we need to recognize the source of a bad performance when we see one, and this one is all Ole.

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post Jan 7 2021, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 7 2021, 02:13 PM)
It is not time to be Ole out. On the back of one game, just no. Ole until the end of the season. We give our managers a chance.
At the same time, it is not the time to be giving Ole a new contract. Wait until the end of the season.
This is Woodward and management being retarded by talking about Ole's contract. It was like Mou's last season where we didn't back him in transfers, gave him a new contract and then fired him later in the season.

The loss belongs squarely on Ole. I hope he learns.

The Maguire - Lindelof pairing means our defence line was going to be sitting deep. Look at the distance between our CBs and our striker. It is shorter and more compact when Bailly is playing because he is quick, it is deeper this game because our CBs are terrified of a ball over the top and starting a foot race. Don't blame the Mc-Fred combo. They got pulled all over the park. The CBs sat so deep with nobody to mark meant that City had lots of space to play in front of the defence. That meant a lof of space behind Mc-Fred, and a lot of space in front of them. They got played with triangles all game long. Don't blame our attackers, they barely got any supply. Bruno looked tired.

Let me just say the first goal is on f*cking Maguire. It may be Luke Shaw's man scoring, but Shaw was just as shocked as all of us that Maguire just let that ball go. The ball literally bounced in front of Maguire's foot and he was terrified to touch it. Like if he does and risks an own goal, he will be the new Phil Jones.

Ole's poorest atttribute is match management. He doesn't know what to do if things goes south.
We saw it against RB Leipzig where he started a back 5 protected with a double pivot. We conceded 2 goals in under 15 minutes, and he does nothing to change either the defensive setup nor the positioning until deep into the 2nd half. Ultimately, we ran out of time because the change came too late.

We see it again here. Our midfield has no hold on the game, and City scores in the 50th minute. We have 40 minutes to try get a result. What does Ole do? He waits until the 75th minute to make his first change. And only uses sub 2 out of 5 in the 88th minute, that's it. Our midfield could not hold on to the ball, he could've put VDB in there to rectify that. But he goes and plays VDB for the last 2 minutes. 2 minutes, is he taking the piss?

We lost here because of the tactics put by Ole. He chose 2 slow CBs again, and this made Mc-Fred's task impossible. When we go down, he has no answers.
He needs to learn.

Again, not Ole out. But we need to recognize the source of a bad performance when we see one, and this one is all Ole.
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his tactic and player selection. but obviously something wrong with the defending coach... not the first time we see the ball slip past maguire and he just ball watching.
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post Jan 7 2021, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 7 2021, 02:13 PM)
It is not time to be Ole out. On the back of one game, just no. Ole until the end of the season. We give our managers a chance.
At the same time, it is not the time to be giving Ole a new contract. Wait until the end of the season.
This is Woodward and management being retarded by talking about Ole's contract. It was like Mou's last season where we didn't back him in transfers, gave him a new contract and then fired him later in the season.

The loss belongs squarely on Ole. I hope he learns.

The Maguire - Lindelof pairing means our defence line was going to be sitting deep. Look at the distance between our CBs and our striker. It is shorter and more compact when Bailly is playing because he is quick, it is deeper this game because our CBs are terrified of a ball over the top and starting a foot race. Don't blame the Mc-Fred combo. They got pulled all over the park. The CBs sat so deep with nobody to mark meant that City had lots of space to play in front of the defence. That meant a lof of space behind Mc-Fred, and a lot of space in front of them. They got played with triangles all game long. Don't blame our attackers, they barely got any supply. Bruno looked tired.

Let me just say the first goal is on f*cking Maguire. It may be Luke Shaw's man scoring, but Shaw was just as shocked as all of us that Maguire just let that ball go. The ball literally bounced in front of Maguire's foot and he was terrified to touch it. Like if he does and risks an own goal, he will be the new Phil Jones.

Ole's poorest atttribute is match management. He doesn't know what to do if things goes south.
We saw it against RB Leipzig where he started a back 5 protected with a double pivot. We conceded 2 goals in under 15 minutes, and he does nothing to change either the defensive setup nor the positioning until deep into the 2nd half. Ultimately, we ran out of time because the change came too late.

We see it again here. Our midfield has no hold on the game, and City scores in the 50th minute. We have 40 minutes to try get a result. What does Ole do? He waits until the 75th minute to make his first change. And only uses sub 2 out of 5 in the 88th minute, that's it. Our midfield could not hold on to the ball, he could've put VDB in there to rectify that. But he goes and plays VDB for the last 2 minutes. 2 minutes, is he taking the piss?

We lost here because of the tactics put by Ole. He chose 2 slow CBs again, and this made Mc-Fred's task impossible. When we go down, he has no answers.
He needs to learn.

Again, not Ole out. But we need to recognize the source of a bad performance when we see one, and this one is all Ole.
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"Following club policies, the contract will be up for negotiations Feb/March latest unless declined by the boss in which the club has an obligation to have a fall back plan to negotiate with other potential candidates. There will not be a repeat of past contract lapse issue where the club is not prepared. This applies to all playing and management staff."

This was what was told.
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post Jan 7 2021, 03:16 PM

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Pogba tak patut ada..that’s all..maguire?rehat kan je 2-3-4-5 game..

Pogba biggest problem is attitude..hurrmmmm..great player tapi cancer..

It’s better with vdb and Bruno imo

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post Jan 7 2021, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 7 2021, 01:31 PM)
Look at the replay. Maguire just watches the ball fizz past him, like he's afraid to touch it and score an own goal. Maguire does not like touching crosses if it comes in between him and the goal. Not the first time.

Both fullbacks tucking in again because of the slow Maguire - Lindelof pairing.

Don't blame the players. No excuses.
This one is squarely on Ole.
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yeah, it's like he afraid of own goal. can't blame lindeloft, he tried clear but fail. judging from this season, lindeloft is better than maguire. again another 80M pressure to play him just like jogba. there's a time maguire venture until rashford position, while all the mids behind him. really what he thinking ah.

first half is kinda balance though city hold the upper hand. if jogba and bruno more slick final passing, we can create a few clear cut chance on our own. bruno off game is acceptable, his off game is like 20% of the time. but jogba? almost like 50-60% of the game he played. we actually supplied nothing to forward once jogba pair with fred and mctominay out and greenwood in.

vdb in last 2 mins is speechless haha. i don't think ole think he can turn it around with this sub, if he things so, he is crazy. but it's just weird for vdb, fans, and himself. but then if 2 mins pun tak ada main, vdb maybe feel worse? lol. something must be wrong in vdb that his minutes is getting less and less. really no idea lol.

suddenly i thought fergie days, we use reserve team to play mickeymouse cup for experience. jlingz. now we need full guns blazing and still fail. kesian.
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post Jan 7 2021, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 7 2021, 10:17 AM)
how can you see if he doesnt play.. 2mins doesnt count... i think his role is more like herrera role. keep the balll moving fast. he has shown that in his previous games for us.. 2 months ago? no need to do all the killer key passes. but keep the ball moving fast and box to box running. a good 8 but we must accomodate the wc winner pogba.
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Next game FA cup against Watford he will have his playing time, i think it is time to rest Bruno and Martial.


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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 7 2021, 04:16 PM)
Next game FA cup against Watford he will have his playing time, i think it is time to rest Bruno and Martial.
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hopefully can see vdb start and play 90 mins... and cavani will complete his 3 games ban?
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 7 2021, 04:42 PM)
hopefully can see vdb start and play 90 mins... and cavani will complete his 3 games ban?
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He will only be back on Burnley
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apparently we just bought a player.. anyone know who's that?
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QUOTE(yvliew @ Jan 8 2021, 12:18 AM)
apparently we just bought a player.. anyone know who's that?
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Amad diallo, 18 YO right winger from atalamta, Italy. Hyped up to be a wonder boy. Don't think he will come to senior squad immediately though.
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post Jan 8 2021, 12:34 PM

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For the FA Cup game against Watford, I really want to see Bruno rested. Give some of the players a chance to play like VDB.

If Bruno starts against Watford, I'm gonna flip.
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Walao. 10 covid positive for aston first team. And we just played with them
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 9 2021, 01:05 AM)
Walao. 10 covid positive for aston first team. And we just played with them
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Players do test twice a week now. It is already a week since AV match, should be okay I think.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/1814863

In the end, it is Pellistri who even not on the bench that day has tested positive.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/spo...listri-19585831

It is a waste, he should had high chance to play as a sub.
If like this VDB also not getting playing time, he really should leave at least on loan, shouldn't let OGS ruin him.

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"It took Jose Mourinho 14 months to get Spurs to a cup final

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has been here for 25 months and still no sign."
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Jan 9 2021, 08:36 PM)
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"It took Jose Mourinho 14 months to get Spurs to a cup final

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has been here for 25 months and still no sign."
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Cup final tapi tak menang sama je

Anyway u seriously want to equate City with Brentford?
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The best plan is to identify the replacement right now, and regardless of position (let’s face it, we ain’t gonna win the league this season), and replace Ole at the end of season. That should give the new manager some time and 1 window to work out an improvement plan. Otherwise we will sing the same transition song, challenge for league song, bla bla bla.

Ole HAS improved the team, since Mou. We are better than when we sacked Mou for sure. And for that we can thank Ole. But we are far from Liverpool and far from MC, right back where we started since Fergie left. And be it tactics, formations or even player selection and player signing, we are still all 2nd grade.

Unless of course that is the plan all along, to just end up in top 4 every year. Which I guarantee you, I will stop watching altogether.
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QUOTE(tohff7 @ Jan 9 2021, 09:18 PM)
Cup final tapi tak menang sama je

Anyway u seriously want to equate City with Brentford?
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Why not, a final is a final. It's getting to the the final game. Crossing the line is another hurdle after that. So it's okay not to get to the final if we meet a strong team?
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jan 9 2021, 10:19 PM)
The best plan is to identify the replacement right now, and regardless of position (let’s face it, we ain’t gonna win the league this season), and replace Ole at the end of season. That should give the new manager some time and 1 window to work out an improvement plan. Otherwise we will sing the same transition song, challenge for league song, bla bla bla.

Ole HAS improved the team, since Mou. We are better than when we sacked Mou for sure. And for that we can thank Ole. But we are far from Liverpool and far from MC, right back where we started since Fergie left. And be it tactics, formations or even player selection and player signing, we are still all 2nd grade.

Unless of course that is the plan all along, to just end up in top 4 every year. Which I guarantee you, I will stop watching altogether.
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If the same support was given to mou in his last window as ole, I'm sure the team would be in a better place.

He even won 2 cups for us and now fans are talking about standing behind managers. Jokers.

The only thing bad about mou is his mouth. He says what he wants to say without caring about the consequences but everyone already knew that way way before. You want trophies, you get the whole package with mou.

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Whenever ole lose a game, sure backlash and negativity lol. If the team is improved as we mostly agree, why can't give more ole more time until end of season at the very least. Replacing with new manager = high chance restart all over. If we win Burnley, we are top of the league when season almost halfway. What more can you ask for? All previous famous managers can't even compete no1 when season halfway.

Somehow pep able to get stones + another cb as solid def. They like clean sheet alot d. The kerbau game major difference is we got 2 joker cb vs their cb

For jm his downfall is his own doing. He lost the dressing room. I don't remember many jmout tagline that time. And many fans support he banish jogba to bench except kayu 😀

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