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post Aug 19 2007, 05:51 PM

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any price difference between ori and fake oil?
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post Aug 19 2007, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Aug 19 2007, 07:19 AM)
U changed already?
How did the oil perform compared to your old one?


Added on August 19, 2007, 7:21 am
The Hydroclear Diamond 5W-30 is fully synthetic, no?
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changed, definitely smoother than previous 1

QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 19 2007, 10:55 AM)
10W-60 is too heavy for high reving engines. You should not use anything heavier than 0W-30. The heaviest you should go is 10W-40 to avoid straining the internal engine components at high rev. I guess when you converted your engine you don't get the Mivec manual that says only use 0W-30 engine oil. Same as all the VTEC engines, light oil is best and less stress.
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izzit? maddriver says 10w60 for high revving engine so that the internal got enough protection during high revving which will expand engine lifespan rclxub.gif
yes, 10W40 can give much more acceleration/smoothness but my internal will be fark up in no time if always high revving
i got the MIRAGE CYBORG manual though but never bother to read it coz it is in japanese tongue.gif
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Aug 19 2007, 06:55 PM)
changed, definitely smoother than previous 1
izzit? maddriver says 10w60 for high revving engine so that the internal got enough protection during high revving which will expand engine lifespan  rclxub.gif
yes, 10W40 can give much more acceleration/smoothness but my internal will be fark up in no time if always high revving
i got the MIRAGE CYBORG manual though but never bother to read it coz it is in japanese tongue.gif
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The protection properties of the engine oil is not directly related with its viscosity. Honda recommends it's own 0W30 or 10W30 engine oil for VTEC. Mitsubishi recommends the same for all of its engines, including the EVO. Subaru recommends 0W-30 too. Only time to use a slightly thicker engine oil like 10W-40 is when the car is used in very hot enviroment like deserts.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 19 2007, 08:00 PM)
The protection properties of the engine oil is not directly related with its viscosity. Honda recommends it's own 0W30 or 10W30 engine oil for VTEC. Mitsubishi recommends the same for all of its engines, including the EVO. Subaru recommends 0W-30 too. Only time to use a slightly thicker engine oil like 10W-40 is when the car is used in very hot enviroment like deserts.
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Castrol EDGE which is 5W40
Castrol EDGE Sport which is 10W60

i wonder why the later 1 got the name 'sport' behind?


Added on August 19, 2007, 8:25 pmthat is 1 of the main reason i decided to get 10W60 laugh.gif
really curious

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Aug 19 2007, 08:23 PM)
Castrol EDGE which is 5W40
Castrol EDGE Sport which is 10W60

i wonder why the later 1 got the name 'sport' behind?


Added on August 19, 2007, 8:25 pmthat is 1 of the main reason i decided to get 10W60 laugh.gif
really curious
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Next round u can try the Castrol EDGE.
Then you'll know which is best for your engine loh. smile.gif
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post Aug 19 2007, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 19 2007, 08:00 PM)
The protection properties of the engine oil is not directly related with its viscosity. Honda recommends it's own 0W30 or 10W30 engine oil for VTEC. Mitsubishi recommends the same for all of its engines, including the EVO. Subaru recommends 0W-30 too. Only time to use a slightly thicker engine oil like 10W-40 is when the car is used in very hot enviroment like deserts.
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Sleepwalker, until now I'm still not sure which is the best oil for VTEC? According to this website, Honda recommends 15w40 semi-synthetic. Always stress when purchasing engine oil tongue.gif .
Btw, anyone knows where to get Idemitsu?
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Aug 19 2007, 08:23 PM)
Castrol EDGE which is 5W40
Castrol EDGE Sport which is 10W60

i wonder why the later 1 got the name 'sport' behind?


Added on August 19, 2007, 8:25 pmthat is 1 of the main reason i decided to get 10W60 laugh.gif
really curious
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I guess their marketing department is doing their job if they got you to purchase the engine oil just because of the word sports. Castrol Edge cost more than Castrol Edge Sports. Castrol Edge Sports used to be known as Castrol RS and I've used it before. Power lost.. substantial.

Reason for sports use.. simple. When the car is used in the track, the engine temperature goes so high that it does not matter what viscosity you use, they all end up the same. It's so hot that they all end up like water, even with 10W-60, so it works just fine in Sports but not for street applications.

Try changing to a lighter engine oil and feel the difference. Then ask yourself a simple question. Why is does the engine feel heavier with the heavier oil? So much more resistance in the engine that it is felt by the driver.

Well, Edge Sports is good but not the best around. It's one of the cheapest fully synthetics around because it's not Ester based. The best ones around are Ester based. Also because they don't have proper distribution in Malaysia, there is too many fakes in the market. I've personally encountered the fake ones and lost about 1.5L in less in 1000km mileage. Took it out immediately and never use again. Furthermore I've been buying from the same shop without issues previously. Currently I'm using Petronas Syntium 5000 0W-30 and damn it is nice. I also chose it because I can get 5L packs (4+1) and that only their biggest petrol stations stock it. Furthermore it's one of the few companies that make the same grade with different viscosity.

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 19 2007, 08:48 PM)
I guess their marketing department is doing their job if they got you to purchase the engine oil just because of the word sports. Castrol Edge cost more than Castrol Edge Sports. Castrol Edge Sports used to be known as Castrol RS and I've used it before. Power lost.. substantial.

Reason for sports use.. simple. When the car is used in the track, the engine temperature goes so high that it does not matter what viscosity you use, they all end up the same. It's so hot that they all end up like water, even with 10W-60, so it works just fine in Sports but not for street applications.

Try changing to a lighter engine oil and feel the difference. Then ask yourself a simple question. Why is does the engine feel heavier with the heavier oil? So much more resistance in the engine that it is felt by the driver.

Well, Edge Sports is good but not the best around. It's one of the cheapest fully synthetics around because it's not Ester based. The best ones around are Ester based. Also because they don't have proper distribution in Malaysia, there is too many fakes in the market. I've personally encountered the fake ones and lost about 1.5L in less in 1000km mileage. Took it out immediately and never use again. Furthermore I've been buying from the same shop without issues previously. Currently I'm using Petronas Syntium 5000 0W-30 and damn it is nice. I also chose it because I can get 5L packs (4+1) and that only their biggest petrol stations stock it. Furthermore it's one of the few companies that make the same grade with different viscosity.
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Thanks sleepwalker for the usual treasure trove of information u share with us. Indeed, ive tried heavier oils and my revs just drag. Currently on a rated oil of 5w-30. Feels good. But that Petronas Syntium 5000 0w-30 sounds verrry tempting nod.gif
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QUOTE(Awan Afuqya @ Aug 19 2007, 08:40 PM)
Sleepwalker, until now I'm still not sure which is the best oil for VTEC? According to this website, Honda recommends 15w40 semi-synthetic. Always stress when purchasing engine oil  tongue.gif .
Btw, anyone knows where to get Idemitsu?
I don't know about your place, but here in Miri... Idemitsu can be found easily.

Honda VTEC oil = Idemitsu semi-synthetic 15W-40 biggrin.gif
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sleepwalker, currently im running on Syntium 800 semi..should i stick with it? plan to upgrade to motul turbolight 4100 semi..im driving 1.6campro btw
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post Aug 19 2007, 10:57 PM

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There's no "BEST" engine oil for all. Regardless of brand or viscosity.

Try & find one which is most suited to your car.
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currently using ELF semi-synth... forgot which one but works fine
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Is Shell Helix good?

Which 1 better? Helix Plus? Helix Super?
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QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Aug 20 2007, 01:01 AM)
Is Shell Helix good?

Which 1 better? Helix Plus? Helix Super?
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as far as i concern, shell oil is 1 of the worst in malaysia sweat.gif
correct me if im wrong but last time i use shell helix on perdana SEi (from proton SC lah)
throttle feels heavy n hard to climb rpm ladder lol
once tested Vaico (german), ELF, Castrol GTX
damn 9 powerful doh.gif than shell helix
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post Aug 20 2007, 09:03 AM

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How about this:
ELF COMPETITION ST 15W-50 (Semi-synthetic).

Also any one know the price in M'sia? May try them out for my 2.0 turbo car. TQ.

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QUOTE(ntlc87 @ Aug 19 2007, 10:57 PM)
sleepwalker, currently im running on Syntium 800 semi..should i stick with it? plan to upgrade to motul turbolight 4100 semi..im driving 1.6campro btw
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Motul Turbolight 4100 is okay. Very similar to Castrol Magnetec. I've not used Syntium 800 so I can't comment on it.
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just get ur engine oil from well known companies and the most is Xw-40.
thay are good enough for normal and some spirited driving.
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Aug 20 2007, 01:10 AM)
as far as i concern, shell oil is 1 of the worst in malaysia sweat.gif
correct me if im wrong but last time i use shell helix on perdana SEi (from proton SC lah)
throttle feels heavy n hard to climb rpm ladder lol
once tested Vaico (german), ELF, Castrol GTX
damn 9 powerful doh.gif than shell helix
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Wat engine oil r u using now?

How about Mobil? try b4?
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 19 2007, 10:41 PM)
I don't know about your place, but here in Miri... Idemitsu can be found easily.

Honda VTEC oil = Idemitsu semi-synthetic 15W-40 biggrin.gif
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I think the Idemitsu Semi Sync = 10W40

Honda's oil is manufactured by Idemitsu. I'm not sure if they did anything extra as in adding extra stuffs into the oil for Honda.

I'm using Honda semi sync and with no problems at all. smile.gif
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How bout mobil M1 engine oil?


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