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imperialrealcs
post Aug 19 2007, 01:53 AM

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motul n redline is juz too expensive lol
i use Castrol EDGE Sport Fully Synthetic 10W60 on my MIVEC
before that 10W50 from LUBRIMAXX
u can see that the castrol is actually heavier grade but eventually, i can rev much smoother than lubrimaxx
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post Aug 19 2007, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Aug 19 2007, 07:19 AM)
U changed already?
How did the oil perform compared to your old one?


Added on August 19, 2007, 7:21 am
The Hydroclear Diamond 5W-30 is fully synthetic, no?
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changed, definitely smoother than previous 1

QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 19 2007, 10:55 AM)
10W-60 is too heavy for high reving engines. You should not use anything heavier than 0W-30. The heaviest you should go is 10W-40 to avoid straining the internal engine components at high rev. I guess when you converted your engine you don't get the Mivec manual that says only use 0W-30 engine oil. Same as all the VTEC engines, light oil is best and less stress.
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izzit? maddriver says 10w60 for high revving engine so that the internal got enough protection during high revving which will expand engine lifespan rclxub.gif
yes, 10W40 can give much more acceleration/smoothness but my internal will be fark up in no time if always high revving
i got the MIRAGE CYBORG manual though but never bother to read it coz it is in japanese tongue.gif
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post Aug 19 2007, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 19 2007, 08:00 PM)
The protection properties of the engine oil is not directly related with its viscosity. Honda recommends it's own 0W30 or 10W30 engine oil for VTEC. Mitsubishi recommends the same for all of its engines, including the EVO. Subaru recommends 0W-30 too. Only time to use a slightly thicker engine oil like 10W-40 is when the car is used in very hot enviroment like deserts.
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Castrol EDGE which is 5W40
Castrol EDGE Sport which is 10W60

i wonder why the later 1 got the name 'sport' behind?


Added on August 19, 2007, 8:25 pmthat is 1 of the main reason i decided to get 10W60 laugh.gif
really curious

This post has been edited by imperialrealcs: Aug 19 2007, 08:25 PM
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post Aug 20 2007, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Aug 20 2007, 01:01 AM)
Is Shell Helix good?

Which 1 better? Helix Plus? Helix Super?
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as far as i concern, shell oil is 1 of the worst in malaysia sweat.gif
correct me if im wrong but last time i use shell helix on perdana SEi (from proton SC lah)
throttle feels heavy n hard to climb rpm ladder lol
once tested Vaico (german), ELF, Castrol GTX
damn 9 powerful doh.gif than shell helix
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post Aug 20 2007, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Aug 20 2007, 04:40 PM)
Wat engine oil r u using now?

How about Mobil? try b4?
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im using Castrol 10W60, heavy, but rev hapily laugh.gif
mobil expensive loh
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post Aug 20 2007, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 20 2007, 06:58 PM)
There is a reason for the price difference. Try lighter engine oils and it will even be more happy to rev.
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but u sure lighter engine oil xW40 wont damage my internal with rev around 7k? if yes, then i might wana try lighter oil biggrin.gif
btw, from mineral oil changed to fully synthetic, do i really really ned to flush my engine?
coz when i change engine oil to fully synthetic, i dont see my mech flushing my engine oil.. then i ask him n he said forgotten doh.gif
but he claim that it is ok... abit scared now

QUOTE(singchaii @ Aug 20 2007, 07:02 PM)
I'm driving LMST.. I already REV above 4k rpm.. What engine oil is suitable? current I just using 10/40w semi synthetic oil. (bProton SC shop brand).
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4k~5k is normal.. try above 6k~7k since ur engine oil is light
btw, proton SC use Shell if not wrong
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post Aug 21 2007, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Aug 20 2007, 09:18 PM)
Rev above 6k-7k? 4g13p can take this 6k-7k rpm? Hehe..
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why not? 4G13 can take up to 6.5k rpm brows.gif

QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Aug 21 2007, 12:12 AM)
I saw another forum, they all recommend Mobil,

For me, I just don't wan cheap oil, n not heavy....any recommendation?

I rev high once in a while, maybe once a week, or twice a month to maintain the power.....

I prefer better torque...any idea?
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if u got the cash, juz go for redline/motul/Q8 etc
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post Aug 21 2007, 04:00 AM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 21 2007, 12:30 AM)
The brand is called Q8. Top of their line is called Q8 Formula 1. Yes, it is getting difficult to source as it is expensive and not very well known here. My workshop still has a source for it.
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dude, take a look here
http://www.schaefferoil.com/datapdf/705.pdf
this 20W50 which is highest grade among its product line also given the name 'racing', juz like castrol EDGE 'SPORT'
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post Aug 21 2007, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 21 2007, 08:49 AM)
Marketing. Why don't you check the oils from the largest Petroleum companies and they do not need to associate themselves with 'racing' or 'sports'. Well, at least I know that their marketing strategies are working on you.
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i've checked AMSOIL, 20W50 also got 'racing'
https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/SearchRes...px?CategoryID=2

MOTUL.. both 20W60 n 15W50 also got competition/racing name
http://www.motul.com.my/product_line_up/4s.../4stroke01.html

im not sure if this is purely advertising but there must be reason why all of them using the name performance/racing etc on thick oil.. hmmmmm
nontheless, couldnt find any article related
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post Aug 21 2007, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 21 2007, 04:34 PM)
He most probably think that by going full throttle for 20 seconds and shifting at from 2nd to 3rd at 7000 rpm is racing and that he needs to get engine oil that has the word 'Racing' or 'Sports' on it. I guess he's never tried pushing the car all out at 7000 rpm from 2nd gear to 4th gear and repeat that process 15 times in Sepang per lap for 30 laps.


Added on August 21, 2007, 4:40 pm

LIke I said before, if you take your car into the track, your 10W-60 engine oil will feel like 0W30 and will be the same like any other 0W30 engine oil. When you take the dip stick out, oil actually drips like water. So on heavier engine oils you can use it for racing without a problem but when you use it for street, the additional stress actually slows down the engine.

Anyway, go and list all the engine oils you want. I've used Castrol 10W-60 for some years believing that the extra heavy oil will help protect the engine but only to find out that Castrol RS (now Edge Sport) is not the best engine oils around. Its quality is about the same as expensive semi-syn. That was when i stopped using it.
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nope, im definitely not that type of driver n definitely not rich enough to own high end racing car like u do..
but i juz want full protection for my engine be it during low speed, or fast speed..
since u said 10W40 is good enough for my car, maybe i'll try it next change
thankz for all the sarcastic remark btw smile.gif
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post Aug 21 2007, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(ulet @ Aug 21 2007, 06:39 PM)
btw, when it is too heavy also
it will bring harm to the car because the pump need to work extra and the engine oil wont reach the crucial parts of engine.

i suggest u to visit autoworld forum in oil section and bobistheoilguy forum

at the moment, for me
i will use max Xw-30 oil.
for 50% town 30% highway 20% redline driving.

1 more, u have to understand the cert on the oil also
like the   
    * ACEA A3/B4-04
    * MB p. 229.5
    * BMW LL01
    * VW 502.00/505.00
    * GM LL A025 / B025

this cert can give u a lot of info in choosing ur engine oil.
eg: BMW LL01 - LL-01 is only for Group IV or Group V based oils.
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thankz for the informative reply
btw, what car are u using? i think xW30 is toooo light for my engine ler XD

 

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