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 [2020]iPhone 12 Pro/Pro Max Discussion Thread | V3, It’s a leap year.

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post Aug 22 2021, 03:56 PM

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post Aug 22 2021, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(meltan @ Aug 22 2021, 04:29 PM)
I suspect it’s the wireless charging as well. I’ve been using the MagSafe Duo charger since launch. Got my 12 PM on launch day as well and my battery health is at 94%. I’ve only been using wired charging for my previous phones.
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Aug 22 2021, 04:46 PM)
I changed to wired charging few months ago when it dropped to 96%. I noticed long term streaming also will further deteriorate it and stop using it for long term streaming (like watching live broadcast) when it was 94%. It helps as it retained a month without dropping, I last checked last week and just checked it becomes 92% now. Holy. shakehead.gif I guess I really don’t want to bother it anymore and hope it drops more so that I can change to a new battery. laugh.gif
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What’s funniest is her phone has never used wireless charging at all, and has never streamed anything be it videos or short clip, it’s a secondary phone used solely for WhatsApp, alarm, and calls (super minimal calls too), never download any social media apps before....biggrin.gif I just suspect the magnetic wireless charging built in is causing the battery deterioration despite using wireless charge or not...but that’s just my suspicion..it could really be anything... google up iPhone 12 pro/ pro max battery health issue and you see tons of people reporting the same issue out there..so I guess we’re not minorities here...

And I don’t think the batt will drop below 80% by Oct to grant us a free replacement haha
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post Aug 22 2021, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Aug 22 2021, 07:27 PM)
My battery health is at 89%. But the battery cycle remains constant. I think it is a possibility the magnetic wireless charging had got to do with it.

FYI, my wife iPhone 11 has been for nearly two years now. Day to day overnight charging, streaming videos and zoom most of the time but her battery health is only at 87%. This is getting ridiculous.

If it is true we should do something about it and demand free battery replacement.
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yes my friends 12 PM since launch also went down to 88% with normal day to day usage...and his wife's 11 PM still have 89% after using it since launch, with maximum usage, she even let her kids play games on her 11 PM and videos day and night.... how ridiculous is this man, im surprise no one actually make a big fuss out of this yet (well they are tons in the forums but nothing big)... and i doubt they will do anything about it until someone burst it out on media..


QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Aug 22 2021, 07:47 PM)
In the 3 months Battery Health drops by 7%. I guess I will be claiming phone battery under warranty.
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yes so many 12 PM have the same issue...and nope they wont let us claim unless its a major concern by most iphone 12 users..
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post Aug 23 2021, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Mrsaitama @ Aug 23 2021, 01:38 AM)
Idk why iphone so concern about their battery health as it sound dumb as an android user, dont get me wrong but its expected to have lower battery health, even your car every 2 years atleast will need to change a new battery.

Just use it and dont bother to check.
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Well it’s because we didn’t get this issue on any older iPhone models, specifically only the 12 model have such issue, and we’re all die hard iPhone fans who’ve used probably more than 10 years of iPhone..so it’s noticeable to us...you may wanna read earlier chats rather than jumping into conclusion, that’d indeed make you sound dumb..

QUOTE(kamikraze @ Aug 23 2021, 02:01 AM)
don't misjudge. many of us iphone users are very particular and care for our phone and we want the best out of our device. and if there's issue we'll sort it out together. if you go to android thread and talk about battery related i bet you'll get less response as android user are more concern about bugs or hardware issue.
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also for the price we have paid, I guess it make sense for us to want the best out of what we’ve paid...Android fans probably won’t feel it as much as they don’t pay a premium on their devices, so can’t be bothered even if their battery health deteriorates right biggrin.gif
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post Aug 23 2021, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(fxgamerbah @ Aug 23 2021, 03:58 PM)
Rich ppl that can afford won’t care about these small stuff

Poor that act rich will care so much even for 1% drop
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Totally don’t see how it links between rich and poor over a battery health issue on a phone...well maybe what you meant was rich people don’t care about phone battery issue coz they’d just dispose and replace a brand new one as they’ve got much better things to worry about? having said that though, you’d be really surprise to see how super rich people care more about petty stuffs than regular people..hashtag truestory biggrin.gif

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post Aug 24 2021, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Aug 24 2021, 06:23 PM)
I work in portable electronics industry and we also have lithium ion packs in our products. What is happening with IPhone batteries are very normal practice, typically the vendor sells us the pack with minimum capacity rating and normal capacity rating. So they will manufacture or deliver with 105 or 107% of the minimum capacity in mAh, and I believe like us, Apple is calculating the internal fuel gauge based on 100%. So what happens is when the battery degrades between 107-105 to 100%, you don’t see it even if it takes a few months. And once a pack has degradation due to various conditions (dendrites etc), you will see it once it drops below 99%. For my case as we are industrial and professional products we have a fuel gauge in mAh as it charges upwards to full (4.2-4.3V) and it recalibrated with every single charge.
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So the battery health depletion is based solely on the charge cycles rather than the usage itself?
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post Aug 25 2021, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Aug 25 2021, 02:23 PM)
Lol... You on 12 Pro Max already right? No need to upgrade la...

But then again, hopefully they will give the damn charging brick this round. ranting.gif  laugh.gif
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hoho i doubt they will ever bring its brick back bro, now that everyone's following their steps its even harder to have such hope... i might be skipping the next iphone as well, too many new stuffs coming out, ipad mini, macbook pro new design, s7 watch.... if the new iphone's gonna be the same look then im definitely skipping.. despite 120hz or bigger battery... wfh dont need so much battery tongue.gif
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post Sep 4 2021, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 3 2021, 05:25 PM)
Is there anyone officially complained to Apple? I think we need more Americans to make noise. laugh.gif
Yes, 1 week 1%. laugh.gif My case was it stopped quite long at 94% almost a month then suddenly dropped to 92% in one week. doh.gif
And now another 1% in almost two weeks. I'm giving up already. laugh.gif

You have better practice compared to me, I don't care anymore now. laugh.gif
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Same as my wife’s 12Promax, she also give up...her case should be more critical as she rarely use the phone and the batt health continue to drop..and rarely use means she only check on WhatsApp maybe 2–3 times a day..morning once, afternoon once, and night...only WhatsApp not even any social media or safari lol..coz it’s not her primary phone....yet batt health still drop about 1% per 1-2 weeks... doh.gif she sort of gave up already coz there’s no answer/solution to it.. biggrin.gif can’t imagine if that’s her primary phone lol

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 4 2021, 05:25 PM)
Mine not though. Not sure if those apps also did some changes and caused they can’t read from SMS. hmm.gif
Yeah, your wife’s situation is really unexplainable. rclxub.gif At least I still use it and it’s my primary phone.
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Now she gave up checking her batt health already, heartache to see it haha

QUOTE(fxgamerbah @ Sep 4 2021, 06:33 PM)
If it's her primary phone, battery health can maintain high %.  Cuz battery only can maintain strong if u keep using it.
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Hmmm I’ve never heard of battery of any sort that will maintain its life stronger the more you use it..they only wear and degrades the more you use right? don’t think it works like car engine where you maintain its life span the more your use it? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(RDoe @ Sep 6 2021, 02:32 PM)
I've a feeling 13PM is going to be quite similar to 12PM, and there's no guarantee the battery life will be good enough for whatever new functions. I'd adopt a wait-and-see before deciding whether to change or fixing a resale price for the 12PM.  nod.gif
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QUOTE(YS3nsatiOn @ Sep 6 2021, 04:01 PM)
Yes, same here actually. I don't think it's worth it for 12PM to upgrade to 13PM if it's just for the 120hz display....so far I think that's the only major difference that concerns me. However, it's not enough to convince me to change from my 12PM to 13PM.

Will definitely wait for 14 or 15  icon_idea.gif
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The fact that most people are wfh now even makes it less push factor for upgrade, especially if identical...but still have to see what else do they have to offer in the new upcoming ip13.. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 6 2021, 11:02 AM)
With this kind of battery health, I don't think my iPhone can fetch high price if I'm selling it off. laugh.gif
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Well I think you’re not the only one who’ll be selling a low battery health iPhone 12 this year, since this issue affected so many people, I think most ip12 sellers will be about the same health %, only very few lucky people have high batt %...we will see smile.gif

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post Sep 15 2021, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(shazmiey @ Sep 15 2021, 11:29 AM)
Iphone 13 is not as exciting as iphone 12. Was thinking to upgrade to watch 7 since rumors saying it would have flat design. Frustrating to see same design, only bigger screen. Atleast aw6 got oxygen meter, this one nothing interesting! The only exciting thing is ipad mini.
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ipad mini 6 is exciting but again for the price bump, i'd rather get the ipad air 4 despite 1 year older model and only a14 bionic chip.... 10.9" vs 8.3" and bigger battery, just nice for pandemic use... but again if you need the palm size then the mini is nice..only rm300 difference though..
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QUOTE(lazyman@home @ Oct 2 2021, 11:46 AM)
Yes I aware of that. Now I not sure if a 12 pro still a good buy when 13 is very good
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I think they are both pretty solid phones, the 12 pro is still an overkill phone, so depends on how much price difference you can get off the 12’s..if you get 1k cheaper I think its good, otherwise just get the new ones if you’re not budget constraint, newer is always better after all. IMO though, if I’m going for the pro version 6.1’ then i’ll get the 13 as they it’s a massive upgrade this year, much bigger camera bump, and battery and screen...
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post Oct 8 2021, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(spiderwick @ Oct 8 2021, 01:44 PM)
Hello guys, need some help here.

Thinking to upgrade from iPhone 6 Plus to either iPhone 12 pro 256gb or iPhone 13 pro 256 gb.
I think Iphone 13 pro max 128 gb maybe the storage is a bit low.

Price difference is around 700rm plus (coz contract in Sg) between iPhone 12 pro 256gb vs iPhone 13 pro 256gb.

I’m a bit behind in terms of what the new iPhone could provide nowadays haha so thought best to check with you all.

I know that the camera is different for iPhone 13 pro but not sure is it worth it.

Thanks! smile.gif
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Grab the 13PM for whatever reason it is, unless the 700 bucks will break your bank..which I doubt so..smile.gif

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post Oct 11 2021, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(dreamthief @ Oct 9 2021, 09:09 PM)
Oh gosh, my iPhone 12 PM, one more month to 1st anniversary, battery health down to 91%. Maybe by next month, 90%.

1 year 10% depreciation of battery
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It’s an iPhone 12 problem, not your usage...many has reported drastic drop of battery health despite minimal usage/charges...
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post Oct 11 2021, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(dreamthief @ Oct 11 2021, 02:42 PM)
But to be honest, my usage is also very heavy.  tongue.gif
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I’ve shared previously my wife’s 12PM secondary phone which was used for a maximum of an hour a day (only WhatsApp and nothing else), bought in nov 2020 and her batt health’s already at 92% now despite using so little, which is so abnormal and weird..the phone is literally new and virgin from all the social media or gaming etc and still batt health drop like no tomorrow, so we have concluded it’s an iPhone 12 issue, she’s given up checking her batt health and moved on..biggrin.gif
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post Oct 11 2021, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(dreamthief @ Oct 11 2021, 02:52 PM)
U know what’s Apple policy on battery change while still on warranty?
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Afaik, if your battery health get below 80% within warranty period (within a year) then they will replace the batt for you foc...
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post Oct 12 2021, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Oct 12 2021, 01:51 PM)
i see that i'm not the only one. slightly into 1 year now and the battery dips to 91% - starting to think that the fast charger may have contributed to the premature degradation (heat) so for now, i've switched back to the slow poke 5w charger that came with my iPhone 6S.
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QUOTE(daimon @ Oct 12 2021, 02:31 PM)
im using Pro , and having same situation like you....almost1 year, but battery also at 91% now

i stopped using the casing now, felt iphone casing actually trapped the heat and might causing harm to the batt ?
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From my observation, it’s very much the iPhone 12 line up battery issue..regardless how you charge, or how frequent, or normal/fast charge..the battery health will drop regardless....just the what it was designed...never had this issues on previous model, only the 12’s...
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post Oct 12 2021, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ Oct 12 2021, 03:14 PM)
Let’s hope the batteries on the 13 series is more robust smile.gif

Actually to solve this issue, all Apple has to do is remove that battery health percentage. No other Android phones provide this info.
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Totally agree with this, they should have removed the battery health just like the iPads...having the battery health % causes a lot of unnecessary stress...

QUOTE(dreamthief @ Oct 12 2021, 03:15 PM)
Technically slow charging is worse. Cause of the duration and heat it causes. Where constantly battery is charged.
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Afaik, slow charging at 5w is better than fast charge in terms of wearing off battery lifespan, as the charging heat is minimal..
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QUOTE(LoveSexMagic @ Oct 12 2021, 04:29 PM)
My 11 months old 12PM battery health is at 86% and warranty end on 12 November. Not sure i can claim before it ends  sweat.gif
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can't claim if battery health is above 80% within the first year..and i doubt it'll drop another 6% within a month.. dry.gif
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post Oct 12 2021, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(LoveSexMagic @ Oct 12 2021, 04:38 PM)
Agree, it should drop till at least 82% when warranty ends. The battery on my 12PM been dropping average 1% half a month for me since iOS 14.6 update.
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82% is so close to 80%, either you use it rough and exert its battery to 80% or leave it as it is... though I do not recommend doing anything intentional, or might backfire dry.gif

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