Finally its time to install new SSD to my old laptop.
Will be using USB boot drive created using windows media creation tools to install new windows.
2012 toshiba laptop, satelite L850.

A few questions for dear techy ktards after ayam reading some guides on installation.

1. I understand i need to change the boot order to use USB first (or is there an option to boot from USB only once?), at what point do I pull out the USB stick to prevent PC keep going into first step of installation/booting from USB stick?

2. Do i need to initialise a new Samsung EVO 860 SSD? if yes how do i do it?

The more i read the more problems i scared might pop up...

Edit:
Just realize the 2.5inch ssd is 7mm thickness and my old hdd is 9.5mm, need to buy spacer?

Edit 2
Any idea why my bios no option to select uefi or legacy?
Computer too old?
Last I check my mother board can do uefi one...




This post has been edited by hc7840: Nov 13 2020, 10:47 PM

Try plugging in the usb stick and switch on the laptop. Certain laptops will boot straight to the usb. If it didn't ,try pressing the key shown during bootup to choose boot device. You can pull out the device once it finished installing the os. Safe bet will be when you type in your username password etc.

You don't have to initialise if you're gonna install a new os on a new drive. You can format the drive while installing the os itself. It will detect the drive like normal.

This post has been edited by indran1412: Nov 13 2020, 06:21 PM

I paid rm50 to a computer shop for the same upgrade last mth.

i just worried before get to the stage of username, PC need to restart to finish installation?
Thx

Old pc, better complete download those driver first

boleh tanya k why pay pipu. lol
but i can belanja kopi if got chance after covid

i just found out drivers for my laptop are all in
C:\Program Files\TOSHIBA\TOSAPINS\COMPS1

already made copy in external hard drive

After installation complete, can pull out use

If restart, pc will skip since no drive connected

After you installed the SSD and created a bootable USB windows installation.

Start laptop and spam F12 key to get boot menu.

Choose the USB drive instead of the SSD drive.

Then follow screen instruction.

SSD, HDD all work the same way.

1) Instead of setting the boot order, just check how to enable manual boot device selection when the laptop start up.
2) Follow the on screen instructions to perform the installation.
3) You can initialize the SSD in Windows installation, as you need to create partition for Windows to install into.
4) Once the installation done, it should prompt you that it will reboot (don't remember if it's automatic or need manual intervention, just follow on screen instructions)
5) If remember correctly it will tell you when it's safe to remove the USB. I never remove the USB, as I manually select to boot into USB drive. I just exit out of the installation if it booted into the USB again.

Later tak jadi.... Other problem arise... Padan muka... Lol.

problem is i dont know when the installation complete?
ktard above say when asking me to type user name. i will see later

choose only? no need to move the boot order?

hope its a 7-64 for your sake

1. Now laptops will boot to USB if you plug in USB Drive contain the installation media file.

2. After you install the Windows. Download the Samsung Magician Software to check the details.

I am also using this SSD. You can increase the Write and Speed aka the Turbo Mode.
They do have secure erase in which that you factory reset the SSD.

Most of the time BIOS will auto detect as long as it's a bootable USB created via Windows Creation Tool or Rufus.

Otherwise, you change boot order.

Another way is to boot into advanced start up then select boot from USB

Got plenty of tutorials on YouTube..

seems like i can get it to boot from USB only once from boot menu instead of changing the order.

already on windows 10.
first upgraded from 7 to 8 then 10.

Windows 10 only one restart after first install (I think). So after you install, restart and quickly disconnect your USB so it doesn't run the installation process again. If however you get into the installation process again, just force shutdown by holding the power button, no problem since the OS already installed in your SSD.

looks like i just need to plug in bootable USB drive and the new empty SSD, might not need to kacau the boot setting.
thank you sirs

thanks

use win10, then install on SSD boot drive.

drivers can auto download later once windows installation completed.. that's how I install on my old 2012 lenovo z430

That's correct!

For Thinkpad (or most Lenovo models), just press F12 for Boot Menu.

For Latitude (or most Dell models), press F12 for Boot Menu.

Just realize the 2.5inch ssd is 7mm thickness and my old hdd is 9.5mm. Looks like might need spacer? My old hdd is not secured by screws, just the cover to hold it in place, 2 mm thinner might make new ssd wobbly inside?
Everyone say ssd is a lot faster then hdd, don’t think need turbo mode? Lol

Did you have problem with different thickness?

yes, ssd slightly less thick.. u can just screw in only the ssd.. it's just a plastic case anyway

make sure your usb is bootable and some old laptop ..you cant get it bootable with usb 3 port

since your ssd is brand new ...therefore, no need prioritize your boot drive also should fine

Yup, it depends on people using Turbo.
With and Without Turbo almost the same speed but can't really tell.

Wish to use but until my old ASUS Laptop the screen got problem.
When I try to tap on the keyboard and move the screen forward immediately force the computer to sleep mode.

I suspected mine the hinge not tight. Like suddenly sleep halfway when using.
Now my SSD store as storage as I try to use until it auto sleep by itself.

Obviously pressing F12 is over ride boot sequence. No need to bother going into BIOS to set sequence. Boot once install, take out USB and then it will boot from SSD. Why over think it by changing boot sequence?

And from your model range seems there is capable to do UEFI boot. Even better as you do not need to key in product key.

Just fold 2 pieces of paper and slide it to support the corners. If you afraid it might come off, then tape the sides to the paper. Its not difficult. Done it many times.

U can order a 9.5mm SSD spacer from Shopee. I ordered some for my Thinkpads as many using 9.5mm HDD previously. With the newer 7mm SSD, the spacer helped to make the SSD fit snugly.

can just clone kan?

Maybe can disable the function where it go into sleep if you cover screen?

Because everywhere I read seems to have the instruction that tell me to change the boot sequence. Haha
Ei I tot product key is related to windows part liao? Uefi or legacy, either one should auto detect my activated windows.

This sounds like a good idea to do it. Haaha. I will try.

I will try the cheapo method first.

Can clone but fresh install no need to clone the bloat ware.

Welcome to SSD world

if installed windows 10 before, when setup just skip product key, windows will auto activate

Because a lot of ppl does not know there is a boot override key on their desktop & laptops! The last few years have the capability to detect MBR type installation (key in product key manually) or UEFI (Retrieve product key from BIOS). It is so easy!!

If you create a bootable installation from Microsoft, it will auto assign UEFI or MBR. If you create installation with RUFUS, you could create MBR or UEFI only installation.

This post has been edited by netmatrix: Nov 13 2020, 09:06 PM

Sounds a good idea. I research online and found the same method to disable sleep mode when close the lid...

Will try out one day. Too many laptops on my table already.
Now I have 2 printers + 1 laptop. Need to find a solution to put 2/3 Laptops and 2 printers together.

sudah tutup secure boot tak

1. I just installed win10 3 weeks ago. I set my USB as primary boot drive. Installed win10. When it restarted, I'm surprised the bios bootup screen didn't show "press any key to boot from USB", which I used to see on older machines. The installation was painless.

2. You setup your SSD when you wanna install win10. You still get the typical drive partition setup page.

kesian this kinda attitude.
all the best in life buddy. you will need it.

+1. Its just as simple as this. Very easy.

Yeah. This I know. Many places mention it.

I check at system information, it says unsupported. Does that means my mother board no support uefi?
But last I check with part number, it says my motherboard can do uefi.
Anyway the disabling secure boot is so that I can boot from the usb drive?

Your second statement means the partitions setup page equal to initialization of ssd?

Kasi chance la. Some people just not so tech savy.
It like hair can cut yourself why pay people to cut for you. Haha

since that is new disk, so when install will ask partition it
and windows will make a small partition before C drive, 100MB or 350MB one

I have upgraded the following Thinkpads and others in my collections to SSD.

Lenovo / IBM

X32 - 32GB with PATA to MSATA adapter
R52 - 32GB with PATA to MSATA adapter
R60 - 60GB 2.5 inch SSD
X60s - 60GB 2.5 inch SSD
X61 - 128GB with SATA to M.2 SATA adapter
X61T - 256GB with SATA to M.2 SATA adapter
X220 - 256GB MSATA & 500GB 2.5 inch HDD
X200 - 128GB SATA to M.2 SATA adapter
T540P - 240GB 2.5 inch SSD & 1TB 2.5 inch HDD
T61 - 120GB 2.5 inch SSD

Fujitsu

U1010 - 32GB with ZIP PATA to MSATA adapter

Dell

Latitude E6540 - 240GB inch SSD, 256GB MSATA SSD & 1TB 2.5 inch HDD
Inspiron L502X - 120GB 2.5 inch SSD

HP

Mini 311 - 32GB SATA to MSATA adapter

Apple

Macbook 2010 - 256GB 2.5 inch SSD & 500GB 2.5 inch HDD
Macbook Pro 2012 256GB SATA to M.2 SATA adapter & 500GB 2.5 inch HDD

This post has been edited by acbc: Nov 13 2020, 09:57 PM

At This page I just click next nia right?
But why your drive baru 32gig? Lol

Since SSD offers much much faster read/write speed over magnetic HDD, you have a choice of cloning your existing HDD over to your new SSD. I believe Samsung will have a software to help its SSD user to clone over their old contents from HDD.

Try go this route and save some hours reinstalling legacy software that you have already installed over the years. This has not included copying over data files too, which can be done 1 shot thru cloning.

Cloning saved me hours of work when I upgraded from 240gb to 512gb SSD less than 12hours ago.

i just google search image
click on NEW, a pop up will say windows need crate a partition, accept it

Did you have to use any spacer due to different thickness of 2.5in ssd and hdd?

I know can clone. But I don’t have many software inside also. Mostly files. I already made 2 copies into 2 different external drives.

The thing I am a bit worried is the driver part. Some people say windows will auto find the right drivers for hardware.

Yes. Bought 10 pieces from Shopee. Cheap and good.

You see, cloning removes the worry on driver part, no? Why need to look for driver when you don't have to worry about it in the 1st place?

I wiped my driver and performed a clean install recently.
Everything works. Drivers still there.
Just need to update in Windows Update and under Device Manager.

for me clean install is to remove those bloatware

when it say HELLO , PREPARING YOUR PC

if ur ssd is smaller than ur hdd tray, just jam in some paper or tissue. if ur ssd bigger, then ur fucced.

btw, remember to clear ur old os on hdd, using disk cleanup

Easiest is clone the HDD la.

If you don’t want to clone and just want a clean install, then just turn on your laptop with the old HDD, plug in ur SSD through USB as an external, then format and partition ur SSD, then install windows on ur SSD using it as an external, then after it’s installed, swap the HDD for SSD and then boot it up lo.

Ezpz.

1. windows 10 dem easy to use now. just d.l. it from legal source here
https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/software-download/windows10

2. disk management in win

Those drivers probably not for win 10. Download latest drivers from laptop website, safer that way. The most annoying problem will be win 10 cant access network due to driver problem.

Some laptop has disk cage that you can reuse for SSD. Else, you can use double tape, thick double tape, or velcro tape.

Yes. Other than partition and format, what else u wanna initialize? There's nothing else to do. What initialization are you expecting?

Ssd smaller. Intend to keep old hdd as it is. If ssd got problem can Pasang balik. Already got two external hdd to backup files.

Other reason I want fresh install is because I don’t have the usb connector adaptor. Lol
I read Can be difficult to fresh install that way also because windows don’t let you install another system when you are using it.

Chebye toshiba no support my 8yo model anymore. Cannot find on their website.
Will try the tape method also

I don’t know. Some website say if not initialized cannot use la. Bla bla.

funny how you mention haircut. i cut my own hair as well. haha

Keep the old drivers backup for now. It's still possible to track down most of the drivers from the component manufacturers website.



You might need to ask other forums or Reddit on how to get the drivers for your particular laptop. What's the model number anyway?

If you install fresh, no need initialize. The installation will auto initialize it for you.

When you add any disk to an existing windows, need to initialize first time only.

Satellite L850 pskdla 0cc00r

win10 dem flexible one no worries

Installing now. Bobi bobi

really flexi

Ts is replace to SSD
Not install to current disk

Wohoo! Up and running. Thanks everyone.

Time to install back needed program

My neighbourhood is literally having fireworks war now.

Can only find bios drivers. https://support.dynabook.com/support/driver...Text=1200014314. No official support for Windows 10 for this laptop.
You have to use something like DriverView to list out all the driver details. Or HWiNFO. You're going to have to take a leap of faith and hope everything works in Windows 10. Else you really have to hunt the drivers one by one.

full I am flying!!

not many program also
just iTunes, vlc.
thinking to just use the new edge from now on. don't even want to install ram sucker chrome liao.



it actually just work leh. no need install any driver.
i think windows is installing in the background. the touchpad couldn't scroll at first, now can scroll liao.
lets hope don't find other issue later

Open device manager, see any device with !, maybe need some driver
Mouse touch pad if no windows 10, use windows 7 driver see work or not

Normally see graphic, network/wifi, mouspad, chipset, sound driver
May have more option, function after install driver

This post has been edited by PJng: Nov 14 2020, 12:13 AM

Your model has common WHQL hardware la. Very sure 100% of the drivers would be there. Unless they have some proprietary feature like Sony VAIO switch or custom ATK key feature or custom security hardware, then you need to visit the manufacturer for these drivers. Most laptops today would work with Windows Inbox drivers.

thanks
and your f12=boot override also true
don't know why all those website keep telling people to kacao the boot sequence. haha

just that when I was installing didn't get the option to choose uefi installation, maybe just my laptop too old. don't have this function.

UEFI option has to be enabled from the BIOS side. But then again, you will have to reinstall.... hahaha

not much of a problem as you hv just finished installing without much app in it.

If using legacy mode, just have to make sure your SATA controller is running in AHCI mode to get the most out of the SSD in terms of performance.

Cheers TS

I don’t see uefi option in bios setup, no secure boot option but it has option for fast boot.
Samsung magician say is running ahci. So should be good?

I guess it just means my mother board don’t support uefi, and I have been using legacy for years. Should not make too much of a difference?

My current pc year 2012, no uefi, only bios,
When install windows 10 no show uefi or show secure boot is lock

Mine also year 2012.
Last I checked, my motherboard support uefi leh. Maybe is because I didn’t update the latest bios driver (there is a bios update on toshiba website). But then people say computer no problem don’t anyhow go flash bios, later become brick.
I guess for normal usage, legacy bios or uefi should not make any difference. Plus has been using it for past 8 years also no problem.