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post Dec 15 2020, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(faizalmzain @ Dec 15 2020, 12:24 PM)
ok but i use my personal laptop only for web browsing occasionally and minor video editing if i feel like it, for work use office laptop biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 15 2020 @ 04:17 PM)
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For such a casual use case, most people do not need to buy the over-priced or price-gouging high-end/specced Apple Mac laptops, ie they only need a budget Intel/AMD laptop or Chromebook.

Macbook Pro laptops are supposed to be for Professionals or power-users, ie not for Casual or non-power or non-Professional users.
....... Imagine an office-worker foolishly buying a 4WD vehicle, eg Isuzu D-Max and Mitsubishi Triton, to commute to work daily in the city.
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QUOTE(faizalmzain @ Dec 15 2020, 05:34 PM)
But screen is very important for me. I'm not into low resolution laptop so surface or MacBook are my only option.
Other than that it has to be able to edit video. I can edit 4k video using iPhone but not surface pro laptop.
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https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-IdeaPa...e.506062.0.html - Lenovo IdeaPad S540 13-inch Laptop Review: Ryzen has turned this small office laptop into a real powerhouse - 26 Nov 2020
Comparable 13-inch laptops usually cost more than the S540's 750 Euro (~$900) price tag. ...

Display = 13.30 inch 16:10, 2560 x 1600 pixel 227 PPI, Chi Mei CMN13B0 (N133GCA-GQ1), IPS, glossy: yes, 60 Hz


https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook...D.508057.0.html - Apple MacBook Air 2020 M1 Entry Review: Apple M1 CPU humbles Intel and AMD - 5 Dec 2020
Price = 1129 Euro ...

Display = 13.30 inch 16:10, 2560 x 1600 pixel 227 PPI, IPS, glossy: yes, 60 Hz

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For a similar Display/screen, the Lenovo AMD x86 Ideapad S540's 750 Euro price is 379 Euro cheaper than the Apple M1 Macbook Air's 1129 Euro.
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post Dec 15 2020, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(sonicmaster @ Dec 15 2020, 06:35 PM)
Which third part brand is good?
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i just bought a normal one from Shopee laugh.gif
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post Dec 15 2020, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(sonicmaster @ Dec 15 2020, 06:35 PM)
When did u place ur order boss
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Same day when it launched
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post Dec 15 2020, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 15 2020, 08:13 PM)
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https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-IdeaPa...e.506062.0.html - Lenovo IdeaPad S540 13-inch Laptop Review: Ryzen has turned this small office laptop into a real powerhouse - 26 Nov 2020
Comparable 13-inch laptops usually cost more than the S540's 750 Euro (~$900) price tag. ...

Display = 13.30 inch 16:10, 2560 x 1600 pixel 227 PPI, Chi Mei CMN13B0 (N133GCA-GQ1), IPS, glossy: yes, 60 Hz


https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook...D.508057.0.html - Apple MacBook Air 2020 M1 Entry Review: Apple M1 CPU humbles Intel and AMD - 5 Dec 2020
Price = 1129 Euro ...

Display = 13.30 inch 16:10, 2560 x 1600 pixel 227 PPI, IPS, glossy: yes, 60 Hz

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For a similar Display/screen, the Lenovo AMD x86 Ideapad S540's 750 Euro price is 379 Euro cheaper than the Apple M1 Macbook Air's 1129 Euro.
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Have you used a Mac before? Just mentioning two things can already win:

- Battery life with M1
- Apple trackpad
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post Dec 15 2020, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(eikozai @ Dec 14 2020, 02:14 AM)
Anybody get this double 12.12 deal from Apple?

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why yours so fast?

mine end jan. and u bought later.
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post Dec 15 2020, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(frostbyte13 @ Dec 15 2020, 05:33 PM)
Received an SMS from Apple. They've shipped out my Macbook Air M1. It will arrive by 17/12.
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Same for me.
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post Dec 16 2020, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Dec 15 2020, 09:39 PM)
Have you used a Mac before? Just mentioning two things can already win:

- Battery life with M1
- Apple trackpad
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Dude, totally agreed with you!! The reasons i stay with Mac for so long.

QUOTE(nonexno @ Dec 15 2020, 09:55 PM)
why yours so fast?

mine end jan. and u bought later.
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No idea bro. its quite random i guessed, or perhaps they factor in geo-location for courier company transportation time required.
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post Dec 16 2020, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(eikozai @ Dec 14 2020, 02:14 AM)
Anybody get this double 12.12 deal from Apple?

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wow not bad, i just realised the price is damn cheap
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post Dec 16 2020, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(persona93 @ Dec 16 2020, 08:35 AM)
wow not bad, i just realised the price is damn cheap
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Right?! Its hardly noticeable!

I don’t recall the right numbers reflected on Apple Online page prior to payment steps is same as this that they emailed to me. Placed the order on 12th, but I only realised this on 13th upon recheck back the email out of excitements.
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QUOTE(eikozai @ Dec 16 2020, 09:16 AM)
Right?! Its hardly noticeable!

I don’t recall the right numbers reflected on Apple Online page prior to payment steps is same as this that they emailed to me. Placed the order on 12th, but I only realised this on 13th upon recheck back the email out of excitements.
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post Dec 16 2020, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(faizalmzain @ Dec 15 2020, 08:45 PM)
I just bought MacBook air 512gb at switch low yat plaza.

Anybody wants MacBook air 256gb i pre ordered with itworld do let me know but you need to pick up at cyberjaya outlet.
Otherwise i will cancel the pre order

Macbook air 512gb only available at lowyat outlet. Bb park and mytown only MacBook pro.
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Already shipped? How much u wantto let go?
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post Dec 16 2020, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 16 2020, 09:38 AM)
Already shipped? How much u wantto let go?
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nevermind i already cancelled the pre order, i didn't plan to sell, just that you take my pre order unit and reimburse RM200 that i have paid to itworld.
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QUOTE(faizalmzain @ Dec 16 2020, 10:51 AM)
nevermind i already cancelled the pre order, i didn't plan to sell, just that you take my pre order unit and reimburse RM200 that i have paid to itworld.
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post Dec 16 2020, 11:14 AM

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Wait. If the M1 Chip is 8-core, how is there a 7-core version of the new MacBook Air?

By now, you’re probably wondering why there is a 7-core MacBook Air with an M1 chip if the M1 is specifically an 8-core SoC. That’s a great question with a fairly simple answer.

In manufacturing, companies sometimes practice what’s called “product binning.” Essentially, product binning is when you’re able to re-use a component that may be defective to a certain degree, but one that does not contradict manufacturer claims or sacrifice overall quality.

In other words, companies use it to create another (or lesser) product than the one the component was originally intended for. The name refers to these parts being placed aside in a bin that is then used later for another product line. When this process involves computer chips, we call it “chip binning.”

What is chip binning?

When it comes to chips, we’re specifically looking at cores. Sometimes in chip manufacturing, some cores may fail or not meet expectations. Rather than waste the entire chip, the faulty core is disabled and the chip is underclocked. In the case of the 8-core M1 chip, if one of the cores fail testing, it then becomes a 7-core M1 chip. The chip is essentially added to a bin and then these chips are used to create the less-expensive, 7-core MacBook Air.

It’s not in any way a broken chip But it is now a 7-core device, rather than an 8-core device, so they sell it for a lower price point making it easier to obtain an M1 MacBook Air; albeit one with less performance power.

Ben Lovejoy, 9to5Mac, has a great explainer:

"No chip fabrication process is perfect and as the process gets smaller, the challenges of producing a perfect chip increase. When you’re operating at nanometer levels of precision, even the cleanest of clean rooms will still contain some microscopic elements of contamination. So what companies often do is aim for a particular spec, then separate out those chips which fall short and sell those as a lower-spec version. The chips are, in the parlance, placed in a different sorting bin.

So it’s all about cost savings.

"Apple isn’t asking TSMC to produce a version of the M1 chip with a 7-core GPU instead of an 8-core one. Rather, it is taking those chips which suffered a tiny amount of damage to the GPU such that only 7 of the 8 cores work properly. Those are designated 7-core versions and allocated to the base model MacBook Air.

Should I upgrade to an 8-core model instead?

In a word: probably. It really comes down to your budget and your needs; but, to get the full M1 experience, you’ll want to get the 8-core model. It’s a matter of opinion, but I think if you’re buying an M1 device, you should really experience it the way it’s meant to be experienced.

Again, at the end of the day, it’s up to you. It’s what you need or want, and what you can afford. Maybe 7-cores is all you need. Either way, it’s a major improvement over Apple’s previous MacBook Airs, and the 7-core version starts at just $999. So choose one that works best for you.

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This post has been edited by firdauskop_3010: Dec 16 2020, 11:47 AM
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What if you choose 7-core and over time more cores go faulty...? tongue.gif
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post Dec 16 2020, 11:33 AM

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Guys, what connector or cable if I would like to extend or duplicate the MBA to external monitor?
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post Dec 16 2020, 11:41 AM

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Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)
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QUOTE(firdauskop_3010 @ Dec 16 2020, 11:14 AM)
Wait. If the M1 Chip is 8-core, how is there a 7-core version of the new MacBook Air?

By now, you’re probably wondering why there is a 7-core MacBook Air with an M1 chip if the M1 is specifically an 8-core SoC. That’s a great question with a fairly simple answer.

In manufacturing, companies sometimes practice what’s called “product binning.” Essentially, product binning is when you’re able to re-use a component that may be defective to a certain degree, but one that does not contradict manufacturer claims or sacrifice overall quality.

In other words, companies use it to create another (or lesser) product than the one the component was originally intended for. The name refers to these parts being placed aside in a bin that is then used later for another product line. When this process involves computer chips, we call it “chip binning.”

What is chip binning?

When it comes to chips, we’re specifically looking at cores. Sometimes in chip manufacturing, some cores may fail or not meet expectations. Rather than waste the entire chip, the faulty core is disabled and the chip is underclocked. In the case of the 8-core M1 chip, if one of the cores fail testing, it then becomes a 7-core M1 chip. The chip is essentially added to a bin and then these chips are used to create the less-expensive, 7-core MacBook Air.

It’s not in any way a broken chip But it is now a 7-core device, rather than an 8-core device, so they sell it for a lower price point making it easier to obtain an M1 MacBook Air; albeit one with less performance power.

Ben Lovejoy, 9to5Mac, has a great explainer:

"No chip fabrication process is perfect and as the process gets smaller, the challenges of producing a perfect chip increase. When you’re operating at nanometer levels of precision, even the cleanest of clean rooms will still contain some microscopic elements of contamination. So what companies often do is aim for a particular spec, then separate out those chips which fall short and sell those as a lower-spec version. The chips are, in the parlance, placed in a different sorting bin.

So it’s all about cost savings.

"Apple isn’t asking TSMC to produce a version of the M1 chip with a 7-core GPU instead of an 8-core one. Rather, it is taking those chips which suffered a tiny amount of damage to the GPU such that only 7 of the 8 cores work properly. Those are designated 7-core versions and allocated to the base model MacBook Air.

Should I upgrade to an 8-core model instead?

In a word: probably. It really comes down to your budget and your needs; but, to get the full M1 experience, you’ll want to get the 8-core model. It’s a matter of opinion, but I think if you’re buying an M1 device, you should really experience it the way it’s meant to be experienced.

Again, at the end of the day, it’s up to you. It’s what you need or want, and what you can afford. Maybe 7-cores is all you need. Either way, it’s a major improvement over Apple’s previous MacBook Airs, and the 7-core version starts at just $999. So choose one that works best for you.

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QUOTE(firdauskop_3010 @ Dec 16 2020, 11:14 AM)
Rather, it is taking those chips which suffered a tiny amount of damage to the GPU such that only 7 of the 8 cores work properly.
“Tiny amount of damage.” very uncomfortable with this hence I bought the 8-core gpu instead
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QUOTE(maxguy @ Dec 16 2020, 11:41 AM)
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)
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Most monitor is either hdmi or VGA ... So I need a converter from USB-C to HDMI only right?

So, if my monitor is HDMI, getting this would be enough:

https://www.apple.com/my/shop/product/MUF82...3228c5ca3bfff16

Right?
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Dec 16 2020, 01:20 PM)
Most monitor is either hdmi or VGA ... So I need a converter from USB-C to HDMI only right?

So, if my monitor is HDMI, getting this would be enough:

https://www.apple.com/my/shop/product/MUF82...3228c5ca3bfff16

Right?
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Get a USB C / Thunderbolt Dongle / Hub with HDMI / Thunderbolt / VGA ports. Don’t need to buy 1st party Apple dongle, decent brands like UGreen or Hyper works fine too.

This post has been edited by andrewtho: Dec 16 2020, 02:04 PM

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