Folks, anybody installed the solar panel for home? how much is the cost like? and maintenance ? got lubang?

Got. Solar water heater. Can mandi air panas.

I read somewhere the ROI is between 9-10 years.

i'm thinking on the solar panel to reduce your electricity bill, coz my house usage abit higher than i would like

i'm worry about maintenance also, later after 10years rosak, gham gham cover the ROI only, like waste of effort

Unless yr house got a power wall to store extra electric, solar panel is a scam. In theory it will take 10 yr to pay for it self, but ask yr self this question when yr house hold use more electric day time or night time? Night time solar panel working? Morning extra electric go to where?

How much higher is your tnb bill? solar panel only worth it if you monthly usage is over 600kwh

SOLAR PANELS deteriorate after a few years. Dont expect the solar panels to be as efficient as it is like on the first day after 4-5 years.
The Battery also deteriorates after a few years...and they wont be able to hold the charge long.

It is an expensive route to take. Dont bother.

Problem is nobody invent lunar panel yet... otherwise it can cut to 5 yrs ROI only...

In aus ppl just use power wall to store electric during day time then use it at night time cos they have 2 rate on electric .

It’s only useful to power small stuffs. Battery is the worst part of it. Low efficiency in generating electricity. Hard to store.

What battery?

Installed solar panel for my house.

For warranty:
Panel - 20 years
Inverter - 5 + 2 years
Workmanship - 3 years

Cost me around RM 24K for the whole package. Using Maybank 0 interest 24 month installment.
So far so good. Can even monitor power panel from apps.

Nuke energy je

how the radiator effect ?

If power consumption is low and the solar is able to offset the power bill entirely the solar power is not fully utilised and selling back electricity to TNB is usually at a lower rate, it will have longer ROI.

If power consumption is high, then the solar power can be fully utilise, provided the panels are facing the correct direction and scrub wash every 2-3 months for maximum generation efficiency. Without batteries, only power consumption during the day can be offset while residential power consumption are usually higher at night with the A/C switched on. Having batteries will help offset daytime generation to night time consumption, with added cost of course but it will allows better utilisation of power.

Which part deteriorate?

Data sheet stated long life as long as the glass isnt broken.

This sounds cheap. May I know what is the capacity and rating?

I was told 8kw around 42k cost and takes roungly 7yrs for ROI

did consider, but risk is too high, not worth the effort.

if everything according to plan, it takes 10 years to ROI. and there is no perfect guarantee it will last 10 years, and how much longer it can last after 10 years. cost of the solar panel will keep decreasing and efficiency of panels will keep increasing, in short, the later you install the faster you cover your investment. like maybe 5 years from now, it only take you 2 years to recover your investment(just blindly guess).

major part of the investment is the storage, aka batteries, if you able to strike a deal with tnb, allowing you to connect your solar into tnb(reverse the meter when your solar generate more than your usage) and without batteries, it can be alot cheaper, lesser problems, and more worth it.

technically still not a good investment for money, unless you have so much money and no where else to spend, better dont do it, price of electricity in malaysia isnt that high yet until you need to do that, if 1 day our electricity cost double, then your ROI will shorten, then you can reconsider.

i'm actually using more in the day, coz me and wife working from home, but i heard that we can even sell it back if underutilize, of can sort of get a discount, i don't think it have any battery pack kuah, coz i remember they say can sell extra to TNB if underutilised, so no need headache

now trying to cut down also 1 month around 450, if not gonna be slightly outside of 500

20k give and take
22k or 48k also got

A lot of people talking about something they don't even know.

All of the excess solar power during daytime will go the TNB grid. The inverter only works during daytime. You will use the power from the grid at night. This excess power can be rolled over for the next 2 years.

It is definitely good for long term. Bulan bulan bayar tak sampai RM 20.

Tak tau tanya. Kalau bodo sila simpan sendiri.

macam not too bad, whats the company name?

It is like the electricity generated today will not be the same as the amount of electricity generated a year later. The longer it goes, the lesser electricity it generate.

They stopped that a while ago. You can refer my previous post on how they work. Better install it lah.

kind of want to do it now for future lah, electricity also keep increasing in price now, and i'm planning to move to a new house, so want to do it now, as don't plan to move soon, initially wanted to do it on the current house, lucky didn't else, wasted.

Install before in 1 of my previous house, cost around rm35k. But not easy to install, as u need to apply for permit/license kinda of thing. Every year only few ppl can get.

Its not like i wan to install, then u can install straight. This was >5 years ago though. Not sure whats the current situation now.

It's called ERS. One of the big fish.

save ur moneh lah

bad times ahead

Google net energy metering (NEM) and SEDA. Lots of information online. Last i talked with a solar provider, it will only make sense to install if your monthly bill is more than RM500.

how much ROI to date?

That is different for what I have. It takes around 3-4 years for ROI. You don't need battery if you don't want to. The installer company will apply the license for you. i literally doing nothing on that part. The power will go to the TNB grid. In fact, TNB will come and install new meter for you. The solar panel is cheap and most company provide warranty around 20 years.

Estimated around 3-4 years based on current bill.
My TNB bill was around RM 300++ before. Last month, it was less than RM 10.

It was more worth it when there was the Feed-in-Tariff (FiT) scheme, that scheme you can sell back to TNB at high margins.
with NEM scheme, sure you can recoup your investment, but on average it is about 7-8 years.
Might as well wait a little longer until 2-3 years from now once battery storage price / kWh becomes way cheaper.
now you install solar at your house(residential), its like catching falling knife in my opinion.
but if you install for capacity at larger than 50kWp, it makes more sense economically, you can ROI quicker on average 5-6 years.
I work in solar EPC company, anything can direct PM ask.

I thought got the scheme where TNB have to buy your extra electricity generated - net energy metering. So no worries about when is your usage, day time you generate extra, TNB buy, night time you use extra, you pay the net usage la...

The sell back scheme long time ago aldy close like 4-5 yr ago, if got extra electric it will discard into ground je. Mal solar seller dont sell battery with it so totally no point getting solar panel.

that sound nice. thus mean that you will take another 3 years to recoup investment?

There a dedicated thread about the scheme last check the scheme not taking in new application since 4-5 yr ago dy.

if for household then ok because extra you sell back to tnb provided u have hybrid inverter. for household you dont need solar battery because night u can use back tnb line.

1 1800w solar battery cost as much as a 345w 2m x 1m solar panel. so if you wanna save half the price then dont need to buy battery lo.

being setting up off grid solar power for my dad with battery. everything DIY so have to make sure read all the specs.

yes solar panel will degrade, but still will maintain 90% capacity after 10 years and 80% after 20 years. you need to do dusting too if solar panel is dirty.

for my dad 1kw off grid solar part cost around 7k+ with 4 solar gel battery 1800w.

useful for off grid and also during zombie apocalypse

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This post has been edited by tahfeikei: Nov 9 2020, 02:02 PM

i'm asking coz i get like FB advert regarding this poping up again, so not sure if it's still applicable, so wanna know first

ya..sangat2 bergantung kepada perbelanjaan electric diri sendiri

yeah did mine.

Electrical - Flat solar poly & mono available.

Water heater - Non pressurized parabolic or pressurized parabolic.

Doesn't really make sense to get ROI in 3-4 years. Average cost to install like 35k, if 4 years ROI means you need not to pay electricity bill for the entire 4 years and you are supposed to pay like 35k/48= rm729 monthly.

Go to buysolar.my free quotation from vendors and other resources for references. It's a market place platform

u mean to tell me that we cant harness the power of moon like sailor moon?

only useful on sunny day. on raining season, power output next to nothing.
for example, a lot of these solar power projects built by state gov in rural Sarawak but end up useless coz the system cant supply enough power for daily use, and end up collect dust during raining season.

Affected by songlap power also

rainny days GG.com

How much? Depends on kWp lor

Rule of thumb is these days it costs rm4-6k for each 1 kWp...to know how much you need you have to calculate your daily usage

Bodo under the NEM scheme, you just sell back the electric day time and contra back whatever you use at night lah.

apartment how to install

Lol

If really keen do it fast, glass shortage, later price will spike!

U aldy fulfil one of the requirements for menteri position

Thx all, have ask for some quotation already, will see how is it, estimation is around 35k currently

What is the capacity do you need?


Model
Description
Quantity

Solar Panel
Mono 390w solar panel
26 pcs

Grid-tied Inverter
10kw
1 pc

Wi-Fi Module
Monitoring device
1 pc

Mounting Support
Roof/Ground
1 set

Cable
4mm² PV cable
200 m

Connector
Solar connector
10 pairs

Tools Bag
Solar Installation tools
1 set

This post has been edited by kswee: Nov 9 2020, 04:10 PM

Go here n chk out

https://www.gsparx.com

Gsparx is tnb subsidiaries

i have no idea, just follow the page from buy solar, gave my monthly usage, and they say the price for installation is going to be around 35k for residential. https://www.buysolar.my/

u can check tnb website, still got gua...
min cost is 9k, household la... so u think u wanna fork out the 9k to install solar panel and hope for roi in 9~10 yrs....

I can qoute for 10,000 watt - 20,000 watt full set.
On grid or hybrid system.

10,000 watt can run approx 3-5 nos of high efficiency 1 hp air conditioner

If maximize usage.
Return on investment 4-5 years onwards.

i have no idea how much is that my usage is around RM450 right now per month i'm technically 0 knowledge on this, just looking for a quote to see how much is the installation as planning to move to a new house

i heard that solar panel efficiency drops drastically if it is dirty or dusty. if you mount if on your roof then obviously it becomes unfeasible to clean it regularly.

am i correct?

I got solar garden light. Not bad. Also got tiny solar light that you can buy at Daiso. Not very strong but the ambient is just nice enough. So far nobody bother to steal it.

My father installed many years ago. Cost is constantly falling, so best for you to just call one of the many installers for a quote. He doesn't clean the panels, so dirt buildup has increased the power degradation. I suggest not to think of it in terms of dollars and cents because the difference is negligible. Best to think of it as doing your bit to save the environment by reducing your carbon footprint. If you got some spare cash lying around, then why not.

Yes lower output for solar by few percent.
Rain water will help to clean.

I don't think you know how this works.

The solar system is grid tied meaning you are connected to TNB. Under the old system, you will have 2 meters. One for how much you use which you pay as usual and another for how much you generate which you sell to TNB for a pre agreed rate for 20 years. So if you ROI in 5 years, you untung for 15.

Under the new system, the meter is 2 way. Whatever you generate you consume. What ever you don't consume is sold back to the grid so your meter will effectively gostan. So end of the month, your electric bill is kWh consumed- kWh generated and then the standard blocking applies.

So why is it worth it if your bill is high? You reduce the number of units in the higher blocks.

1 kWp solar pv installation costs about 5-6k
1 kWp solar pv generate approx 4 kWh per day in average
do your own maths

An added benefit of installing solar panels on roof area that discourage break-in from roof.

System size proposed : 11.7kWP (26panels)
Estimated monthly savings: Around RM600
Estimated annual savings: Around RM7200
Price : RM38,000

Brudder, now so cheap already ......

Isnt yours cheaper only rm3247/kWp?

Its make house more cooler, less heat trap under the roof ceiling

Are you a solar vendor or are you the user? 11.7kWp from the panels. What about the output of the inverter in kW? And also the NEM declare installed capacity kWac?

Thanks

I am a user, you expect a big drop at the inverter output? Are you a vendor?

Now got 20% off for early birds till end of Feb 2021.


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For the same capacity, I was quoted RM44k . . .

tomorrow NEM 3.0 open for application.....

i think about mid-teens return (not cash - set off TNB bill) if your bill > RM250.

Make sure you get at about RM4k per kw or lower.

Ensure its Grade 1 solar panel, and Grade 1 inverter. They'll try short change (curi ayam) you on these two items.

i'm not an installer so don't ask me for price.

This post has been edited by billyboy: Jan 31 2021, 10:32 AM

Energy prep is a GOOD prep but don't rely solely on solar as the alternative energy source. Solar parts are expensive and can be difficult to find further down the road.

Are Solar parts are getting cheaper or expensive? Also getting lesser supply, is that what you are implying?

Hi,
I am a to be user. 6.12kWp I purchased and NEM contract only state 5.0kWac as declared install capacity. I look at the inverter also 5kW. I am confuse on this technical therefore want to know more of existing users. Hope you can share your technical info. Appreciate the help

solar installation now cheaper by 80% compared to 10 years ago.

you...sir.....are talking nonsense......

solar panels are getting cheaper every year. .....google Swanson's Law











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6.12kw purchased ....solar panel ?
5.0kw inverter

ideally the solar panel kw should match the inverter kw.

however sometime SP curi ayam and reduced the inverter sizing a little. Inverter can be over-stressed a little during peak period. however the shelf life will be shorter. by that time the SP will tell you no more warranty. you are on your own.

ask him nicely to give you a 6kw inverter (maybe 2 x 3kw, if lucky can find single piece 6kw) otherwise you might go look for SEDA to report on SP who give bad advice.........same price of course....make sure decent quality inverter too..

aiya...why sell back to tnb and become thier kai_dai,

you already bought the cow, why kiamsiap for the rope!!

just build the power wall slowly and is at a very low cost nowadays.. then can live off-grid and show tnb this

No worries, nonsense or not, we'll see.

Thanks and good info. What the panel able to get peak is 6.12kWp DC, and the inverter output is 5kW AC. They claim technically must be between 1.2 - 1.4 ratio factor for energy lost... i have no clue on this. I do agree with you that if incoming is high to the incerter, it may load it and shorten the lifespan. Should make the future maintenance business for the contractor. .. hmm ...

more practical is look at the contract which you signed.....did the SP deliver what he promised. if yes, you don't have much recourse.....

Mine is will be 11.7 kwp and the inverter is 10kw ..... The ratio shud be 1.0-1.3

how do u clean the panel when it gets dirty? diy

Depends on installed capacity. If only install 3kwp maybe over 5k

I'm about to pull the trigger with GSPARX for a 4kwh system for RM20,500.00. Seems like a good price.

Gonna get a quotation for a 5kwh system to see the price difference. Our monthly bill is about 130-150rm.

Is GSPARX generally reputable? or other providers are recommended?

Going on the TNB/solar site shows a quotation of RM30k for a 5kwh system.

RM38k already can get a 11.7kw system, generally GSPARX is more expensive since they are part of TNB.

Rm150 monthly bill worth to get solar? How long will the roi?