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carloz28
post Nov 8 2020, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Nov 8 2020, 07:44 AM)
thats a childish thinking.
in the nutshell it's alright

but the country is going into deficit, spending more and more future money.
when spend too much of future money, then there wont be any future
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It’s ok. Some people only wake up from their sleep when they smell the smoke of their burning houses

Just hope u r not in the house when that happens
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post Nov 8 2020, 07:54 AM

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post Nov 8 2020, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Nov 8 2020, 07:46 AM)
It’s ok. Some people only wake up from their sleep when they smell the smoke of their burning houses

Just hope u r not in the house when that happens
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How can a majority of 70% have special privilege run forever ??

Special rights all require lots of money to maintain.

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post Nov 8 2020, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Nov 8 2020, 08:04 AM)
How can a majority of 70% have special privilege run forever ??

Special rights all require lots of money to maintain.
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The cake will eventually run out one day. I have said many times, it’s never big enough to feed everyone...

And while these nimcompoops are harping about Race and religion to maintain their political edge, the competitive edge of Malaysia is slowly being eroded every year compared to the rest of the world.

Keep on comparing to Zimbabwe and continue to stroke that worthless ego to feel good about themselves
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post Nov 8 2020, 08:13 AM

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I've been doing business for 5years. Whenever i want to apply for bumi loan/grant, the bank will say finish. Even at SME Bank. Dont know where all the money gone.
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QUOTE(Donphatz @ Nov 8 2020, 08:13 AM)
I've been doing business for 5years. Whenever i want to apply for bumi loan/grant, the bank will say finish. Even at SME Bank. Dont know where all the money gone.
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Try joining umno
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post Nov 8 2020, 08:27 AM

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Not a scam. It memang to benefit bumiputeras albeit only certain ones tongue.gif
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post Nov 8 2020, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Nov 8 2020, 08:27 AM)
Not a scam. It memang to benefit bumiputeras albeit only certain ones tongue.gif
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Yes, the "bumiputeras" in d real sense of d word.
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post Nov 8 2020, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Nov 8 2020, 08:11 AM)
The cake will eventually run out one day. I have said many times, it’s never big enough to feed everyone...

And while these nimcompoops are harping about Race and religion to maintain their political edge, the competitive edge of Malaysia is slowly being eroded every year compared to the rest of the world.

Keep on comparing to Zimbabwe and continue to stroke that worthless ego to feel good about themselves
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already run out.
all the malay wealth is parked at GLC.
look at how well GLCs perform

all need bailout, kana sapu by perompak gang, GLCs sell assets to raise cash
Petronas income is slowly dwindling.
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post Nov 8 2020, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(Donphatz @ Nov 8 2020, 08:13 AM)
I've been doing business for 5years. Whenever i want to apply for bumi loan/grant, the bank will say finish. Even at SME Bank. Dont know where all the money gone.
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do you know that MITI has shares below market price for BUMIPUTRA ONLY ?
for IPOs like FELDA FGV that sort

but sorry you wont cuz all was given to UMNOPUTRA laugh.gif

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post Nov 8 2020, 08:57 AM

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The butt hurtness of this thread is overwhelming
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post Nov 8 2020, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Nov 7 2020, 02:46 PM)
I've said it before:
Prove me wrong, change my mind
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You are confusing between Bumiputera and Malays. I am from Sarawak.
We have more Bumiputera Christians here than Muslim Malays.
Most of them are being help to progress with these policy you are trying to abolished.

Have you been to the rural areas and see how rural people lives. How many are they are non Bumi?
Race based policies is better than targeted social policies because we live according to our races,
We self segregated ourselves, as a mini society within a much broader hierarchy.

We rarely conduct business, marriage, social gatherings etc outside our own kind.
Wealth distributes within races whether you agree or not.
When a poor person marries a rich person, the poor family status is positively affected.
When someone wanna organize a social event like weddings or birthdays, they uses their own kind for services like caterings, event planners and such.
This distributes wealth within the society which is commonly under the same race.

If you say we should only help the poor regardless of the race. It is like giving fish to a cat.
Instead teaching the cat to fish works better because cats will teach other cats.

Have you ever been in school where you sometimes need to copy your homework or assignments because you somehow forgot or lazy to do?
Tell me who will help you? Your own kind or the opposite?
That is how our society works.

Bumi policy does not cover everything except certain economics, education and housing policies.

I don't believe equality but i believe in fairness.
If you preach equality, then every person should be given for example RM100 each regardless of their wealth.
If you believe in fairness, then the lesser should get more.


Until there is balance in wealth distribution between races, these policies will be needed.
I do believe one day, we will not need this policies anymore.
Unbalanced wealth distribution is the reason for race and religious divide in Malaysia

This post has been edited by seriosekitt3h: Nov 8 2020, 09:23 AM
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post Nov 8 2020, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(PortgasDerekAce @ Nov 8 2020, 06:51 AM)
so? All you can do is bitching at /k
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so? You butthurt about my thread? rclxms.gif Then fuck off and go back to worshipping your sohai ccp list lo, diu liddat oso have to teach you meh rclxs0.gif
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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ Nov 8 2020, 09:22 AM)
You are confusing between Bumiputera and Malays. I am from Sarawak.
We have more Bumiputera Christians here than Muslim Malays.
Most of them are being help to progress with these policy you are trying to abolished.

Have you been to the rural areas and see how rural people lives. How many are they are non Bumi?
Race based policies is better than targeted social policies because we live according to our races,
We self segregated ourselves, as a mini society within a much broader hierarchy.

We rarely conduct business, marriage, social gatherings etc outside our own kind.
Wealth distributes within races whether you agree or not.
When a poor person marries a rich person, the poor family status is positively affected.
When someone wanna organize a social event like weddings or birthdays, they uses their own kind for services like caterings, event planners and such.
This distributes wealth within the society which is commonly under the same race.

If you say we should only help the poor regardless of the race. It is like giving fish to a cat.
Instead teaching the cat to fish works better because cats will teach other cats.

Have you ever been in school where you sometimes need to copy your homework or assignments because you somehow forgot or lazy to do?
Tell me who will help you? Your own kind or the opposite?
That is how our society works.

Bumi policy does not cover everything except certain economics, education and housing policies.

I don't believe equality but i believe in fairness.
If you preach equality, then every person should be given for example RM100 each regardless of their wealth.
If you believe in fairness, then the lesser should get more.
Until there is balance in wealth distribution between races, these policies will be needed.
I do believe one day, we will not need this policies anymore.
Unbalanced wealth distribution is the reason for race and religious divide in Malaysia
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You're not getting it, try reading the opening post again. Or is it you did not read, just see the title and straight comment?

I do believe in fairness and the lesser should get more, did you even read the opening post? How is it fair when the present bumi policies are abused to benefit the rich and connected malays and not the poor malays?

Under needs based policy as per the example that I listed, all the poor (5 malays, 3 indians, 2 chinese) gets help. How is that not balance in wealth distribution between races? Or is it only fair to you when the 10 resources all goes to the 5 malays, the others can go dai?

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If you say we should only help the poor regardless of the race. It is like giving fish to a cat.
Instead teaching the cat to fish works better because cats will teach other cats.
How does helping the poor irregardless of race equates to giving fish to cat? Are you saying helping 1 race irregardless whether they poor or not is correct and does not equate not giving fish to cat?

This post has been edited by bigwolf: Nov 8 2020, 12:02 PM
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post Nov 8 2020, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Nov 8 2020, 11:55 AM)
You're not getting it, try reading the opening post again. Or is it you did not read, just see the title and straight comment?

I do believe in fairness and the lesser should get more, did you even read the opening post?  How is it fair when the present bumi policies are abused to benefit the rich and connected malays and not the poor malays?

Under needs based policy as per the example that I listed, all the poor (5 malays, 3 indians, 2 chinese) gets help. How is that not balance in wealth distribution between races? Or is it only fair to you when the 10 resources all goes to the 5 malays, the others can go dai?
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read my first sentence again, the core of my argument.
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post Nov 8 2020, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ Nov 8 2020, 12:01 PM)
read my first sentence again, the core of my argument.
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My reply still relevant to your first sentence core argument. Read again and try to understand.

You don't think under needs based policies the bumi christians would get more help that what they're getting presently?

QUOTE(bigwolf @ Nov 7 2020, 02:54 PM)
QUOTE(drug5 @ Nov 7 2020, 02:49 PM)
Bumi is not only Malays. There r even more poorer loca natives
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yeah, see sabah/sarawak. And see sabahan/sarawakian politicians and their cronies
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This post has been edited by bigwolf: Nov 8 2020, 12:10 PM
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post Nov 8 2020, 12:20 PM

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They don't even get crumb. Leftover go to tongsan master to maximize profit while oreng kito master goyang telor laugh at these poor fags.
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post Nov 8 2020, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(Current Events guy @ Nov 8 2020, 07:32 AM)
Bumi get monetary assistance, sometimes directly like zakat or bantuan other times indirectly like job opportunity
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You don't think the poor bumi will get more in needs based policy (10 resources goes to all 5 bumi, 3 indians, 2 chinese poors)? And the present policy is still better (10 resources, 9 goes to the rich & connected while only 1 goes to 5 bumi poors and the others can go dai)?
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post Nov 8 2020, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(Current Events guy @ Nov 8 2020, 07:32 AM)
Bumi development is good for all.

Bumi get monetary assistance, sometimes directly like zakat or bantuan other times indirectly like job opportunity

Bumi then go shop to spend money

At shop operated by non-bumi, bumi got bumi-special price kena markup

in the end, non-bumi get to enjoice bumi money

As what happened to my neighbour who went to pasar and got chop RM20 while my wife got the same thing and paid RM10
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The fund allocated for bumi majoritygo to the rich bumis and only a small go to the poor bumis via zakat etc la. Those rich bumis mostly go and enjoice most of their money overseas or buying imported stuff la only the poor bumis will spend most of their money locally. So in the end even if you are one of those jibai racist sellers who have special price for bumi only get to profit from the crumbs la. (most sellers nowadays already sell same price regardless of race except for stupid racist ones)
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post Nov 8 2020, 12:29 PM

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It made millionaires out of 0.01% of bumis.

Not a scam. Sekian

To ensure the other 99.9% of bumis become millionaire..just pump in myr 10 trillions more .





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