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post Oct 10 2020, 09:58 PM, updated 6y ago

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I go gym twice a week, swimming too... Height is 175cm,65-66kg. Body fat 15%+-

other part of body quite firm... But, the chest area is soft & got extra fat... Even I do a lot of chest exercises

Any solution? Checked wit doctor, not gynecomastia.

Even got, is also mild one. (I felt)

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My chest workout bench press 10-12rep X 3/4 times wit 10kg - 12.5kg dumbbell each side.
Machine one, is 32 - 36kg.

Flying chest, same... But, 10kg each dumbbell.

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post Oct 10 2020, 10:03 PM

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Looks like you are lacking in testosterone. Having man boobs is a symptom of this condition.

Go consume tongkat ali for a few weeks and notice the changes in your tits.
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post Oct 10 2020, 10:06 PM

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what kinda chest exercise do you do? share your chest routine and how often.. what program are you on?
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post Oct 10 2020, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(eksk @ Oct 10 2020, 10:06 PM)
what kinda chest exercise do you do? share your chest routine and how often.. what program are you on?
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I done simple push up, flying chest everyday...

When gym, mainly bench press wit dumbell or machine twice a week.
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post Oct 10 2020, 10:40 PM

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post Oct 11 2020, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Oct 10 2020, 10:40 PM)
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This. Because it's hard to tell if your chest is really 'soft' since chest muscles are supposed to be soft when they're relaxed, not to mention soft is a subjective word.
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post Oct 11 2020, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Oct 10 2020, 10:40 PM)
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QUOTE(Yenactiet @ Oct 11 2020, 01:45 AM)
This. Because it's hard to tell if your chest is really 'soft' since chest muscles are supposed to be soft when they're relaxed, not to mention soft is a subjective word.
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post Oct 11 2020, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Oct 11 2020, 09:27 AM)
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Would you mind sharing your chest workouts? Do you think you eat enough protein? To be frank, I don't really see you have a good amount of muscles, of course it could be angle and lighting problem.
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post Oct 11 2020, 04:04 PM

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Maybe upload video of your chest workout at the gym. Maybe incorrect form and not hitting the right muscle group.
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post Oct 11 2020, 09:11 PM

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Fr pic, didn't see much problem.

For me, already better than many guys... Certainly, u still far away fr those muscular or fit guy
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post Oct 11 2020, 09:17 PM

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Proper workout program. Are you lifting heavy enough?
Diet. Insufficient protein to sustain any sort of chest mass.

Check one or these two, or both.
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post Oct 11 2020, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Yenactiet @ Oct 11 2020, 03:44 PM)
Would you mind sharing your chest workouts? Do you think you eat enough protein? To be frank, I don't really see you have a good amount of muscles, of course it could be angle and lighting problem.
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Didn't take protein.... My chest workout r bench press & chest fly & push up...

Do advice... U can criticize.. Yup, I lost some muscle during tis mco.


QUOTE(gohkokho @ Oct 11 2020, 04:04 PM)
Maybe upload video of your chest workout at the gym. Maybe incorrect form and not hitting the right muscle group.
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Maybe... Do advice

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post Oct 11 2020, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Oct 11 2020, 09:22 PM)
Didn't take protein.... My chest workout r bench press & chest fly & push up...

Do advice... U can criticize.. Yup, I lost some muscle during tis mco.
Maybe... Do advice
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maybe its better for you to list your workout routine?

weight X rep X times

Personally i dont see anything wrong with your chest, as many had pointed out. It only lacks muscle and mass, obviously you need to tweak your routine
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Oct 11 2020, 09:26 PM)
maybe its better for you to list your workout routine?

weight X rep X times

Personally i dont see anything wrong with your chest, as many had pointed out. It only lacks muscle and mass, obviously you need to tweak your routine
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My chest workout bench press 10-12rep X 3/4 times wit 10kg - 12.5kg dumbbell each side.
Machine one, is 32 - 36kg.

Flying chest, same... But, 10kg each dumbbell max.
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post Oct 11 2020, 10:29 PM

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Try stepping up your lifting game abit. 12.5kg db presses will hardly build any significant muscle tbh. Youll see the difference when youre able to press 25kg for 10-15reps as compared to 12.5kg for the same.

I wouldn't worry to much about the bf%, since 15% is decent.
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post Oct 11 2020, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(axtray @ Oct 11 2020, 10:29 PM)
Try stepping up your lifting game abit. 12.5kg db presses will hardly build any significant muscle tbh. Youll see the difference when youre able to press 25kg for 10-15reps as compared to 12.5kg for the same.

I wouldn't worry to much about the bf%, since 15% is decent.
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U mean 25kg per dumbell? So, total is 50kg one pair of dumbells....

Even 12.5kg per dumbell, I felt a bit heavy
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post Oct 11 2020, 10:38 PM

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use a barbell. it's better and u can load more weight. use barbell fly to finish
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post Oct 11 2020, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Oct 11 2020, 10:36 PM)
U mean 25kg per dumbell? So, total is 50kg one pair of dumbells....

Even 12.5kg per dumbell, I felt a bit heavy
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Yes. Of course. The idea is to always make it harder. Not saying to increase straight to 25. Start 15 and work to 10. Then repeat. You gotta give a reason for the muscle to grow. Doing the same weight all the time will yield little to no result.

Try mixing barbell bench and db. Focus on low reps on the barbell and high reps for the db as accessories. I had good results (increasing db presses) doing it this way then just focusing db alone.

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post Oct 11 2020, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Oct 11 2020, 09:22 PM)
Didn't take protein.... My chest workout r bench press & chest fly & push up...

Do advice... U can criticize.. Yup, I lost some muscle during tis mco.
Maybe... Do advice
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Protein as in protein from food sources, not those protein powder. I don't recommend eating them either unless you're a gym freak, but you have to make sure you eat enough protein to let your muscles grow. I believe you have grasped the reason behind the problem you're facing already. Cheers.
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post Oct 12 2020, 10:46 AM

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If you get already the proper stimulation on your chest muscle when bench pressing and having enough protein intake, I would suggest add more weights to your workout.

From the picture does not look like a big deal, just that the muscle is not prominent enough to "overpower"/"cover" the little fats around that area.

Stay consistent and you will notice a fuller chest soon!
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post Oct 12 2020, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Oct 11 2020, 09:22 PM)
Didn't take protein.... My chest workout r bench press & chest fly & push up...

Do advice... U can criticize.. Yup, I lost some muscle during tis mco.
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Do you feel muscle sore after gym? For example, when change clothes also feel sore and cannot take off tshift fast fast.
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post Oct 12 2020, 02:58 PM

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How long have you been training?
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post Oct 12 2020, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(gohkokho @ Oct 12 2020, 12:32 PM)
Do you feel muscle sore after gym? For example, when change clothes also feel sore and cannot take off tshift fast fast.
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Sore a bit only.... Not tht sore, as what u said...

U means my training not intense enough? I m fine wit any opinion & criticism.

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post Oct 12 2020, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Oct 12 2020, 08:20 PM)
Sore a bit only.... Not tht sore, as what u said...

U means my training not intense enough? I m fine wit any opinion & criticism.
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You are not training hard enough.

A couple of points:

- You should feel like you are freaking dying, not feel a bit heavy
- Since you go to a gym, get someone to spot for you if you are using barbells. If your gym allows you to drop the DBs, just drop em
- In terms of difficulty, Dumb Bell is the hardest, Barbells is 2nd hardest, Machine is the easiest
- Therefore, I would suggest you go up to DB 15kg (each), BB (if available at your gym) 35kg and machine at least 40kg
- IT NEEDS TO FEEL REALLY HARD. By rep 5 of your first set, you are already sweating like crazy
- You probably have form issues with your DB press. You may be using too much shoulders (front delts) instead of chest (pects)
- If you feel the above point is your bottleneck, check back with us
- (Controversial point) I would suggest skipping the benched chest fly, can lead the long term shoulder issues. Instead, use the machine version or cabled ones. I also dislike the smith machine version, the form feels yuck

G'luck with growing the cup size biggrin.gif

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post Oct 12 2020, 09:56 PM

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A bit out of topic, is TS chest square shape type? Despite he still lack of muscle mass...

his chest doesn't look soft and saggy.
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post Oct 12 2020, 10:18 PM

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Sounds like you need a proper program and good nutrition.
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QUOTE(hotguuy @ Oct 12 2020, 09:56 PM)
A bit out of topic, is TS chest square shape type? Despite he still lack of muscle mass...

his chest doesn't look soft and saggy.
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Thanks... I wish mine is square shape... Don't think so.

Pic look better than real one. I guess China phone '.'
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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Oct 12 2020, 08:58 PM)
You are not training hard enough.

A couple of points:

- You should feel like you are freaking dying, not feel a bit heavy
- Since you go to a gym, get someone to spot for you if you are using barbells. If your gym allows you to drop the DBs, just drop em
- In terms of difficulty, Dumb Bell is the hardest, Barbells is 2nd hardest, Machine is the easiest
- Therefore, I would suggest you go up to DB 15kg (each), BB (if available at your gym) 35kg and machine at least 40kg
- IT NEEDS TO FEEL REALLY HARD. By rep 5 of your first set, you are already sweating like crazy
- You probably have form issues with your DB press. You may be using too much shoulders (front delts) instead of chest (pects)
- If you feel the above point is your bottleneck, check back with us
- (Controversial point) I would suggest skipping the benched chest fly, can lead the long term shoulder issues. Instead, use the machine version or cabled ones. I also dislike the smith machine version, the form feels yuck

G'luck with growing the cup size  biggrin.gif
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great advice. but if TS is new i don't think he should train so heavy until he gets the form and muscle activation right. if not just looking for injury
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QUOTE(eyerule @ Oct 12 2020, 11:00 PM)
great advice. but if TS is new i don't think he should train so heavy until he gets the form and muscle activation right. if not just looking for injury
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Yeah I asked trained how long, but no answer. I saw TS's thread regarding muscle soreness 2 years ago, so I take it for granted its about that long.

But yeah, to TS, go check out videos on correct form and such.

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The weight tranning mention by TS shoud have some decent result if train consistenly for 3 months, but from the pic it look just flat.

I think VictorJ have provide good points in term of trainning.

From my perspective, it seem like you having Ectomorph body type,which require higher food consumption especially protein compare to others body type.
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post Oct 13 2020, 05:27 AM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Oct 12 2020, 11:23 PM)
Yeah I asked trained how long, but no answer. I saw TS's thread regarding muscle soreness 2 years ago, so I take it for granted its about that long.

But yeah, to TS, go check out videos on correct form and such.
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I train on & off from 2019... So, it's 1 yr +.... I m not consistent, maybe Thts d problem. And my form may not be accurare
But, during MCO, I completely off.

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QUOTE(tc167 @ Oct 12 2020, 11:54 PM)
The weight tranning mention by TS shoud have some decent result if train consistenly for 3 months, but from the pic it look just flat.

I think VictorJ have provide good points in term of trainning.

From my perspective, it seem like you having Ectomorph body type,which require higher food consumption especially protein compare to others body type.
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Thanks for ur advice.

Actually, I m in calorie deficit diet. Not ectomorph body... I gain fat pretty easily.

How to said.. My chest is not flat which I would like.. I feel like I got a bit of man boob. It's soft but maybe not tht serious.

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if you want to put on muscle, looking from that pic u need more food. from the pic ur chest is really flat la. unless u show another pic which shows otherwise
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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Oct 13 2020, 05:36 AM)
Thanks for ur advice.

Actually, I m in calorie deficit diet. Not ectomorph body... I gain fat pretty easily.

How to said.. My chest is not flat which I would like.. I feel like I got a bit of man boob. It's soft but maybe not tht serious.
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If you in cutting phase i think u did a pretty well job, but if you are want to bulk up your carlorie need to be surplus or else muscle wont grow. You cant focus on 2 programme at the same time. Usually I skip any cardio activity during bulk up or only do 1X per week.

Do 5X5 on Barbell bench press with your highest load and increase protein consumption (minimum 4 chicken breast per day)
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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Oct 13 2020, 05:36 AM)
Thanks for ur advice.

Actually, I m in calorie deficit diet. Not ectomorph body... I gain fat pretty easily.

How to said.. My chest is not flat which I would like.. I feel like I got a bit of man boob. It's soft but maybe not tht serious.
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Everyone's fat distribution will be slightly different. Your body might store more fats on your chest compared to other people. It's not a big deal TBH since the doctor you met has said your body is normal. Just try to think about people that have low body fat but still have no jawline, it's the same thing except their bodies store fats on their jaws instead of chest.

If you suspect you have mild gyno, you can always try to pinch your areola and check whether its texture is consistent with the texture nearby it or not, if it's not consistent, then there might be a breast tissue, even then it's still not a big deal since it doesn't affect the appearance unlike other cases of gyno.
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QUOTE(Yenactiet @ Oct 13 2020, 12:14 PM)
Everyone's fat distribution will be slightly different. Your body might store more fats on your chest compared to other people. It's not a big deal TBH since the doctor you met has said your body is normal. Just try to think about people that have low body fat but still have no jawline, it's the same thing except their bodies store fats on their jaws instead of chest.

If you suspect you have mild gyno, you can always try to pinch your areola and check whether its texture is consistent with the texture nearby it or not, if it's not consistent, then there might be a breast tissue, even then it's still not a big deal since it doesn't affect the appearance unlike other cases of gyno.
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Actually, already do a scan... Breast tissue is minimal and won't affect appearance.. The doctor claim la
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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Oct 12 2020, 08:20 PM)
Sore a bit only.... Not tht sore, as what u said...

U means my training not intense enough? I m fine wit any opinion & criticism.
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Either your form is not correct and not hitting the correct muscle or you not lifting heavy enough.

Make some friends in the gym especially those buffed guys. I am sure they are friendly and willing to give you some advice.

YouTube got a lot of videos you can review also.

Most important get your form correct first. If your form is not correct, lift very heavy also no use, waste time only. If you form is correct, lift lighter but more reps also very effective for toning up as well.

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