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post Aug 20 2007, 04:33 PM

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Because he play wishes, he can simply go fetch a Debtor's Kneel and reanimate for the win. Otherwise, he can tutor Scion using the pact, and God forbid, he can actually hard cast the other dragons if he draws them. That deck dies to hard counters though -- the reason why he didn't made it to the top 4 (he lost to omnicord).

As for me, I was lucky enough to beat Project X with MGA -- a damn impossible matchup imo.

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post Aug 20 2007, 04:38 PM

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oh i think u can outrace project X...
first time i see prject x ehre...

ya tend to agree bout the hard counter part due to the high mana...
being rogue helps as well...
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QUOTE(retep @ Aug 20 2007, 04:33 PM)
Because he play wishes, he can simply go fetch a Debtor's Kneel and reanimate for the win. Otherwise, he can tutor Scion using the pact, and God forbid, he can actually hard cast the other dragons if he draws them. That deck dies to hard counters though -- the reason why he didn't made it to the top 4 (he lost to omnicord).

As for me, I was lucky enough to beat Project X with MGA -- a damn impossible matchup imo.
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Yes, i think you are right - it suffers if the scion is countered / killed. That's where his most difficult games were. But as you mentioned, he can wish a scion back out from the board. The debtor's knell is a good idea. But he showed me his entire sideboard =) No debtor's knell there. There were a few slots that I think he could then use for debtor's knell. He had some wall of roots in the sideboard to board in against aggro.

Oh, he had rise/fall! To fetch a dead dragon. If you see him around, you should ask him to show you the sideboard. It's very neatly designed.


Added on August 20, 2007, 11:43 pmCome to think of it - the rise/fall solution is probably better - it's quicker - he just needs to grab that dragon back. Debtor's knell is great but more mana-intensive?

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post Aug 21 2007, 12:16 AM

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I played the G/W/r predator/justice deck in last weekend's PTQ (and GPT after I drop the PTQ, going 1W/1D/2L in the PTQ and 1W/3L in the GPT).

1 thing to note is I really really need more practice in constructed. I suck so bad now.

In the PTQ, my 1 draw came against a R/B Damnation/Void deck, and my 2 losses is against teachings deck, those that plays 3/4 colors with relics and voids. The win was against a W/U blink/pickles deck.

In the GPT, the 1 win is against a mono U pickles, and the 3 losses, one was against U/G/W blink deck. He beat me even with a 4 card/play hand (I was down to 5 myself).

He goes land, land suspend cloudskate, land delay my goyf, land venser, play cloudskate bounce my enforcer, then bounce my enforcer again, then blink and venser my enforcer, then mystic snake my enforcer and I just got pwned. (I had a tiny kavu predator in play, no life gain, and was holding 3 enforcer, 2 of them I drew in the frst 4 turns).

Second loss was against a G/W goyf deck, I took out my anti aggro package and put in anti control for the GPT, as I have not faced any aggro deck and faced a lot of teachings deck, and he pwned me with stone cloaker tricks and thrill of the hunt.

The third loss was against the 4c relic/teachings. In the third game, I was winning, I had 2 Kavu predator in play, a 5/5 and 3/3 (he killed the previous 5/5 predator with teachings/slaughter pact), and he is down to 6 life and no card in hand.

I have 3 lands in play, and holding 2 whirling dervishes (remember the anti control sideboard), 1 serra avenger, 1 temporal isolation, and 1 mystic enforcer. Guess what he top decked? Void! He void for 2, and I failed to draw land for the next 2 games, and his teachings and forsee and careful consideration got him back into the game and match before I can get my 4th land....

Sigh, and next week is the GP San Francisco..... what should I play???






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post Aug 21 2007, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(Playbook @ Aug 20 2007, 11:41 PM)
Yes, i think you are right - it suffers if the scion is countered / killed. That's where his most difficult games were. But as you mentioned, he can wish a scion back out from the board. The debtor's knell is a good idea. But he showed me his entire sideboard =) No debtor's knell there. There were a few slots that I think he could then use for debtor's knell. He had some wall of roots in the sideboard to board in against aggro.

Oh, he had rise/fall! To fetch a dead dragon. If you see him around, you should ask him to show you the sideboard. It's very neatly designed.


Added on August 20, 2007, 11:43 pmCome to think of it - the rise/fall solution is probably better - it's quicker - he just needs to grab that dragon back. Debtor's knell is great but more mana-intensive?
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knell wouldnt be good due to the mana it need to be casted out makin it dead in oppening hand, and lost of huge tempo if countered...
rise and fall is underrated and i really love the card when u time it right...
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post Aug 21 2007, 03:50 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 21 2007, 01:09 AM)
knell wouldnt be good due to the mana it need to be casted out makin it dead in oppening hand, and lost of huge tempo if countered...
rise and fall is underrated and i really love the card when u time it right...
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High casting cost?? I got hit by a turn 5 Bogardan Hellkite.......
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post Aug 21 2007, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(camlok @ Aug 21 2007, 03:50 AM)
High casting cost?? I got hit by a turn 5 Bogardan Hellkite.......
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imagine u got remanded while casting...
that's wut i mean...

being remand with no mana open is a sucky feeling lol...
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post Aug 21 2007, 03:39 PM

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with relic mana and pact of negation, you can normally beat that remand with a permission of your own, or you can always cast teferi first.
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post Aug 21 2007, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(camlok @ Aug 21 2007, 03:39 PM)
with relic mana and pact of negation, you can normally beat that remand with a permission of your own, or you can always cast teferi first.
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he runs pacts and teferi in his deck?
i eman the dragon deck...
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post Aug 21 2007, 06:19 PM

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Lol, he beat me to it. I too was going to make a deck around Scion. However I was too busy preparing for the plethora of standard tournaments. Although I was going to play Angelfire (my favorite deck as many of you should know by now), I passing all my essential cards to my mates because his playing some innovative March of the Machines deck. Ended up playing Dralnu (Urg ... Boring sial) Still managed to make the finals in one standard tournament and faced the absolutely WORSE match up. The exact one that killed my mate in the semi's .... BW Rack ... Still 2nd, so split the packs with my mates and still got a Shimian Specter. Not a bad day.

Would have prefered to play Angelfire as I won the Gateway tourney in MFest with it.

On a side note ... Pact of Negation is plain Awesome in Dralnu.
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QUOTE(lepakboy @ Aug 21 2007, 06:19 PM)
Lol, he beat me to it. I too was going to make a deck around Scion. However I was too busy preparing for the plethora of standard tournaments. Although I was going to play Angelfire (my favorite deck as many of you should know by now), I passing all my essential cards to my mates because his playing some innovative March of the Machines deck. Ended up playing Dralnu (Urg ... Boring sial) Still managed to make the finals in one standard tournament and faced the absolutely WORSE match up. The exact one that killed my mate in the semi's .... BW Rack ... Still 2nd, so split the packs with my mates and still got a Shimian Specter. Not a bad day.

Would have prefered to play Angelfire as I won the Gateway tourney in MFest with it.

On a side note ... Pact of Negation is plain Awesome in Dralnu.
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haha ya know how u love ur angel fire deck XD...
anyways jz curious the BW rack deck packs any dmanation/ wrath of god in it?
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 21 2007, 07:37 PM)
haha ya know how u love ur angel fire deck XD...
anyways jz curious the BW rack deck packs any dmanation/ wrath of god in it?
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Not really
I didn't see the whole sideboard but he should. Mostly designed to beat control his sideboard mostly consist of anti aggro cards like Deathmark and Terror's and if I'm not mistaken 3x Slaughter Pact. He does play the deck very aggresively so he always mulligans till he gets at least turn 1 rack or turn 2 dark confidant


Added on August 21, 2007, 9:45 pmAlso, if anyone is selling type 1 , or type 1.5 cards please PM me. Currently looking for original duals mostly Volcanic Islands, Underground RIvers, Tundra, Scrubland.

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post Aug 22 2007, 01:28 AM

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wow kinda crazy and yet he won trhough his aggresiveness (respect)...
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 22 2007, 01:28 AM)
wow kinda crazy and yet he won trhough his aggresiveness (respect)...
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Its a good strategy as me being a control player will have to race him. I am forced to counter all his threats alls whiles getting hit by the rack.
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QUOTE(lepakboy @ Aug 22 2007, 01:30 AM)
Its a good strategy as me being a control player will have to race him. I am forced to counter all his threats alls whiles getting hit by the rack.
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ya agreed...
maybe i should muligan when needed and not keeping risky hands oftens...
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Playbook, what happen to your wordpress site?
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QUOTE(camlok @ Aug 22 2007, 05:10 AM)
Playbook, what happen to your wordpress site?
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The reason of what happen to Playbook site ..

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I will pass you a user ID to use for the http://playbook.wordpress.com site (I have made it private until after the Nationals as I am putting up material from a few other paid-subscription sites onto it).
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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ Aug 22 2007, 05:57 AM)
The reason of what happen to Playbook site ..
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I see. Thanks for letting me know.
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post Aug 22 2007, 02:12 PM

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oh so how we access it?
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Hi guys,

anybody can make a precon deck for me at half the price of the norm for Future Shock
Future Sight Theme Deck ?

Please pm me.

thanks.


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