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 Malaysia Shut Down 3G Network By The End of TBA, Long life 2G

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azhar75
post Dec 14 2021, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Dec 14 2021, 11:38 PM)
holy…i thought i was the only one with call drops and missed TAC code because no available network at 3G
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Starting 1st January 2022, rest assured all of us will have high BP becoz TAC/MSOS code doesn't come thru...
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post Dec 14 2021, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Dec 14 2021, 11:43 PM)
Starting 1st January 2022, rest assured all of us will have high BP becoz TAC/MSOS code doesn't come thru...
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no wonder maybank no longer support tac, use securetac via their app first lo
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post Dec 14 2021, 11:50 PM

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Stupid Maxshit always fall to 2G it’s really headache during QR payments in counter just embarrassing us. TnG Mae load in 2G🤦🏻 Maxis is failure in Jendela


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post Dec 14 2021, 11:51 PM

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Ranking from best to worst JENDELA experience between
1st Jan to 31st March 2022:
1. DiGi DUP35
2. Hotlink H365
3. P1 webe #BEBAS
4. Axiata XOX non-Black
5. YES Kasi Up
6. Axiata TuneTalk BUDDIES

Location: Shah Alam "mis-configuration" cell towers
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post Dec 14 2021, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(NagaK @ Dec 14 2021, 11:50 PM)
Stupid Maxshit always fall to 2G it’s really headache during QR payments in counter just embarrassing us. TnG Mae load in 2G🤦🏻 Maxis is failure in Jendela
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Please subscribe to other telcos for SIM 2 slot as backup ... After 31st March 2022, can stop this backup subscription...

Hints : Don't subscribe to Axiata as backup line. For other telcos, pick the cheapest plan (monthly or weekly)...

This post has been edited by azhar75: Dec 15 2021, 07:56 AM
NagaK
post Dec 15 2021, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Dec 14 2021, 11:55 PM)
Please subscribe to other telcos for SIM 2 slot as backup ... After 31st March 2022, can stop this backup subscription...

Hints : Don't subscribe to Axiata as backup line. For other telcos, pick the cheapest plan (monthly or weekly)...
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Had secondary phone running on Digi family line rm38 for 100GB😅 so kinda safe for me. But sometimes I won’t bring 2 phones while riding motorcycle that’s where I’m struggle.

Another point is: 7 Plus doesn’t has dual sim support hahaha
Is that Axiata so bad?🙄
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post Dec 15 2021, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Dec 14 2021, 11:55 PM)
Please subscribe to other telcos for SIM 2 slot as backup ... After 31st March 2022, can stop this backup subscription...

Hints : Don't subscribe to Axiata as backup line. For other telcos, pick the cheapest plan (monthly or weekly)...
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I now have Digi and Yes in both sim slots

Yes is given for free (for second time , after i claimed first time last year before but soon abandoned)

Yes 4g coverage is quite spotty in certain places, at Masjid jamek underground LRT Station, yes outright no line, but digi got line

I don't have 5g semakfon and will miss the 5g "trial" by yes anyway. As always "5g is fake" for me lol

This post has been edited by MyProLife: Dec 15 2021, 08:25 AM
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post Dec 15 2021, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Dec 14 2021, 11:51 PM)
Ranking from best to worst JENDELA experience between
1st Jan to 31st March 2022:
1. DiGi DUP35
2. Hotlink H365
3. P1 webe #BEBAS
4. Axiata XOX non-Black
5. YES Kasi Up
6. Axiata TuneTalk BUDDIES

Location: Shah Alam "mis-configuration" cell towers
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Are u came from the future or have time machine ?
Last time i check Time is now: 15th December 2021 - 09:40 AM

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post Dec 15 2021, 09:42 AM

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Why would telcos invest and improve the soon outdated 4G network, when the whole world is moving to 5G?

I can understand the reluctance to improve 4G network, as they would rather use the money to invest in technology that would last 10 years, that is 5G.

This post has been edited by Chrono-Trigger: Dec 15 2021, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Dec 15 2021, 09:42 AM)
Why would telcos invest and improve the soon outdated 4G network, when the whole world is moving to 5G?

I can understand the reluctance to improve 4G network, as they would rather use the money to invest in technology that would last 10 years, that is 5G.
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4G (Long Term Evolution) is expected to last for at least another decade, and possibly longer with the help of Dynamic Spectrum Sharing (DSS), which shares available spectrum between 4G LTE and 5G devices. DSS provides improved coverage for 5G devices and greater longevity for 4G LTE devices.

2G 3G IoT device upgrade to 4G LTE-M and NB-IoT
https://www.digi.com/blog/post/4g-to-5g-how...te-be-available
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post Dec 15 2021, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(JLA @ Dec 15 2021, 09:40 AM)
Are u came from the future or have time machine ?
Last time i check Time is now: 15th December 2021 - 09:40 AM
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Time machine = Marvel & DC alternate universe... LOL...
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post Dec 15 2021, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Dec 15 2021, 09:42 AM)
Why would telcos invest and improve the soon outdated 4G network, when the whole world is moving to 5G?

I can understand the reluctance to improve 4G network, as they would rather use the money to invest in technology that would last 10 years, that is 5G.
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4G would last longer it’s would be for over decade from now. It’s only choice for telco to reach connectivity on rural areas where 3G was only connection those area’s. I don’t think 5G would be available in most state by 2022/23 unless we believe some miracles since Telco and DNB still having negotiations in 5G

So 4G is safe bet . Only thing they need to fix it reliability and connectivity speeds. And also indoor 4G coverages

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Dec 15 2021, 08:24 AM)
I now have Digi and Yes in both sim slots

Yes is given for free (for second time , after i claimed first time last year before but soon abandoned)

Yes 4g coverage is quite spotty in certain places, at Masjid jamek underground LRT Station, yes outright no line, but digi got line

I don't have 5g semakfon and will miss the 5g "trial" by yes anyway. As always "5g is fake" for me lol
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5G is not fake only thing is we turtle slow to bring it. Till now Telco DNB haven’t signed wholesale agreement instead now Maxis Digi Celcom demanding separate infrastructure from DNB as dual infrastructure to run 5G services as per current news.

DNB 5G news is more fun to watch than political scenario’s 🤣😂
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QUOTE(NagaK @ Dec 15 2021, 10:32 AM)
5G is not fake only thing is we turtle slow to bring it. Till now Telco DNB haven’t signed wholesale agreement instead now Maxis Digi Celcom demanding separate infrastructure from DNB as dual infrastructure to run 5G services as per current news.

DNB 5G news is more fun to watch than political scenario’s 🤣😂
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DNB itself is a mistake TBH

DNB monopoly will end up like TM HSBB project about a decade ago. You already know how HSBB ends up

DNB also negates the investment of major telcos in 5g infra these two years (they even boost about their network being "5g ready" lol)
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post Dec 15 2021, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Dec 15 2021, 10:36 AM)
DNB itself is a mistake TBH

DNB monopoly will end up like TM HSBB project about a decade ago. You already know how HSBB ends up

DNB also negates the investment of major telcos in 5g infra these two years (they even boost about their network being "5g ready" lol)
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In this country, when it's behind political move, it's doom to fail or won't succeed as it supposed to. Too many example. sad.gif
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post Dec 15 2021, 11:17 AM

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Malaysian government is planning to use Digital Nasional Berhad (DNB) as a single wholesale model to distribute 5G services. At the same time, they are having second thoughts of that to allow competition and now according to Reuters, our local telcos have recommended allowing a second 5G service.

As you can guess, the local telcos are none other than Celcom, Digi, Maxis and U Mobile. A private discussion was held recently and from Reuters' sources, the reason for setting up two whole 5G services is "giving Malaysia fast initial deployment and then the security of dual competing networks going forward". If operated by a consortium, of carriers, this will allow the telcos to "coordinate rollout and collaborate in the first 12-18 months to achieve faster rollout of 5G across Malaysia than any one party".

Moreover, the telcos also said that they are open to other ideas as long as it allows them to own equity in DNB as well as to be part of the government's 5G rollout plans. However, it seems that YTL Communications (YES) objected to the plan and preferred the single 5G network idea. Telekom Malaysia, on the other hand, said the company will follow whichever decision is made by the government.

So far, YES is the only mobile operator to join DNB's single wholesale 5G network plan and the company will have an official launch today (15th of December 2021). In case you missed it, a single wholesale plan is said to reduce costs, improve efficiency and accelerate infrastructure buildup. DNB has also provided free 5G services to the telcos until 31 March and said it will charge them less than 4G services.

Our minister of communications and multimedia said that the cabinet will decide on whether to scrap the single wholesale 5G network plan by January 2022.
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QUOTE(NagaK @ Dec 14 2021, 11:50 PM)
Stupid Maxshit always fall to 2G it’s really headache during QR payments in counter just embarrassing us. TnG Mae load in 2G🤦🏻 Maxis is failure in Jendela
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Noticed the same too for Maxshit.
Previously always falls to H+ and since they are gone.
Straight falls to E very frequently esp indoor mall and many other areas
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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Dec 15 2021, 10:36 AM)
DNB itself is a mistake TBH

DNB monopoly will end up like TM HSBB project about a decade ago. You already know how HSBB ends up

DNB also negates the investment of major telcos in 5g infra these two years (they even boost about their network being "5g ready" lol)
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The idea behind the DNB is good.

Private telcos are driven by commercial and profit interests. They would invest in areas that give them the good Return of investment (ROI), that would mean Klang valley and the state capitals in malaysia. And places like East Malaysia (oops called Borneo States now), and East Coast will be underinvested.

I come from low yield area , and i can tell you, some telcos never bother to upgrade the network here for years due to perceived low base users and low ROI.

DNB is to get all the local telcos to combine their resources for fast role out nationwide.

Instead of , 5 telcos building 5G network in same city, why not assign 5 of them to build it in 5 different cities, and let them share their network?

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Dec 15 2021, 12:50 PM)
The idea behind the DNB is good.

Private telcos are driven by commercial and profit interests. They would invest in areas that give them the good Return of investment (ROI), that would mean Klang valley and the state capitals in malaysia. And places like East Malaysia (oops called Borneo States now), and East Coast will be underinvested.

I come from low yield area , and i can tell you, some telcos never bother to  upgrade the network here for years due to perceived low base users and low ROI.

DNB is to get all the local telcos to combine their resources for fast role out nationwide.

Instead of Digi and Maxis build 5G network , both in City A, why don't get Digi to build it in City A, Maxis City B, celcom City C, and all of them share their network?
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just wait and see if they are good ...dont be ended up the taxpayers to foot the bill in the end of the day
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Dec 15 2021, 12:50 PM)
The idea behind the DNB is good.

Private telcos are driven by commercial and profit interests. They would invest in areas that give them the good Return of investment (ROI), that would mean Klang valley and the state capitals in malaysia. And places like East Malaysia (oops called Borneo States now), and East Coast will be underinvested.

I come from low yield area , and i can tell you, some telcos never bother to  upgrade the network here for years due to perceived low base users and low ROI.

DNB is to get all the local telcos to combine their resources for fast role out nationwide.

Instead of , 5 telcos building 5G network in same city, why not assign 5 of them to build it in 5 different cities, and let them share their network?
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lets take HSBB for example

in the past few years, HSBB is hard to be covered every place nationwide. chances are some suburbs and rural areas TM say no demand so no fiber for your place and you are stuck with dated copper lines. actually is because TM thinks there is no good ROI to serve fiber for low demand areas. only recently with Jendela (PN) or formerly NFCP (PH) we can see more and more suburbs/rural areas with fiber coverage

TM HSBB was good idea? HSBB was suppose to have low cost to deploy, in the end we still pay expensive fiber service until now


go back to 5G swn, even in the past 4g era none of countries in the world manage to have successful swn as per GSMA data.

https://www.gsma.com/spectrum/resources/woan-report/ download pdf to see full details

will we risk that 5G swn to become just another HSBB in future?

This post has been edited by MyProLife: Dec 15 2021, 01:06 PM

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