4G rollout left to private. 5 years now coverage still very poor at certain area. Big telcos only think of profit and they would underinvest in low yield area.
Malaysia Shut Down 3G Network By The End of TBA, Long life 2G
Malaysia Shut Down 3G Network By The End of TBA, Long life 2G
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Dec 20 2021, 08:16 AM
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4G rollout left to private. 5 years now coverage still very poor at certain area. Big telcos only think of profit and they would underinvest in low yield area.
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Dec 20 2021, 02:00 PM
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Dec 20 2021, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(lowkelvin @ Dec 19 2021, 11:19 PM) Just my two-cents. (Correct me if I'm wrong) Exactly of what I suggested a few months back on the same thread, but some other people thought it was a monopoly and it shouldn’t be allowed. I replied by asking what was their opinion about the DNB’s SWN on national 5G and semua diam diam jer…I dont know if DNB to be the single wholesale 5G network operator is a good idea, but I think DNB to be the single wholesale for 2G should be a good idea ... 1. Reduce cost for MNO to maintain 2G network, as we only use 2G network for calling 2. Recall bandwidth hold by multiple telco so that those bandwidth can be use as 4G, MNO can focus on 4G network 3. Nobody will complain DNB monopoly on 5G network 4. IOT / TNB Smart meter can easily get wholesale agreement lowkelvin liked this post
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Dec 20 2021, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Dec 15 2021, 10:36 AM) DNB itself is a mistake TBH Precisely. HSBB, HSBB2 or SUBB or whatever are just the perfect example of how DNB will likely to end up with. If not because of the intervention of the then minister Mr. Gobind, most of us would be still using 8mbps or 10mbps fibre broadband with the price of at least RM130+.DNB monopoly will end up like TM HSBB project about a decade ago. You already know how HSBB ends up DNB also negates the investment of major telcos in 5g infra these two years (they even boost about their network being "5g ready" lol) jsnhoh liked this post
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Dec 21 2021, 12:49 AM
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QUOTE(lowkelvin @ Dec 19 2021, 11:19 PM) Just my two-cents. (Correct me if I'm wrong) dont make sense.I dont know if DNB to be the single wholesale 5G network operator is a good idea, but I think DNB to be the single wholesale for 2G should be a good idea ... 1. Reduce cost for MNO to maintain 2G network, as we only use 2G network for calling 2. Recall bandwidth hold by multiple telco so that those bandwidth can be use as 4G, MNO can focus on 4G network 3. Nobody will complain DNB monopoly on 5G network 4. IOT / TNB Smart meter can easily get wholesale agreement /k will said good idea for songlap DNB dont have 2G licence GSM spectrum band 3 and 8 already used by big 4 so DNB paid big 3 to become 2G MVNO then telco except yes paid DNB for 2G roaming |
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Dec 21 2021, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(JLA @ Dec 21 2021, 12:49 AM) dont make sense. Yes, I understand DNB dont have 2G license/k will said good idea for songlap DNB dont have 2G licence GSM spectrum band 3 and 8 already used by big 4 so DNB paid big 3 to become 2G MVNO then telco except yes paid DNB for 2G roaming Just an idea brainstorming Gov can ask telco to shut down 3G Of course Gov can ask telco to shut down their 2G too After this, Telco can reband their 2G and 3G into 4G/5G Then Gov can re-assigning some GSM900/GSM1800 to DNB to run 2G network |
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Dec 21 2021, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(lowkelvin @ Dec 21 2021, 01:20 PM) Yes, I understand DNB dont have 2G license I don't think 2G will be closed within 1 / 2 years because many IoT devices especially POS terminal still using 2G (I saw many POS terminal that accept credit / debit card still using 2G showing EDGE with some carrier , normally Digi / Maxis)Just an idea brainstorming Gov can ask telco to shut down 3G Of course Gov can ask telco to shut down their 2G too After this, Telco can reband their 2G and 3G into 4G/5G Then Gov can re-assigning some GSM900/GSM1800 to DNB to run 2G network and if 2G closed means Malaysia only have 4G / 5G , i don't think telco want to build tower in places thats doesn't bring profit then many places especially rural areas get No Service |
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Dec 21 2021, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(Sam Leong @ Dec 21 2021, 04:32 PM) I don't think 2G will be closed within 1 / 2 years because many IoT devices especially POS terminal still using 2G (I saw many POS terminal that accept credit / debit card still using 2G showing EDGE with some carrier , normally Digi / Maxis) Sounds right, but it sounds F-ed up as progress isnt madeand if 2G closed means Malaysia only have 4G / 5G , i don't think telco want to build tower in places thats doesn't bring profit then many places especially rural areas get No Service |
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Dec 21 2021, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(lowkelvin @ Dec 21 2021, 01:20 PM) Yes, I understand DNB dont have 2G license I think major telco has provided information that some of their spectrum especially 900/1800mhz are doing DSS. dynamic spectrum sharing...Just an idea brainstorming Gov can ask telco to shut down 3G Of course Gov can ask telco to shut down their 2G too After this, Telco can reband their 2G and 3G into 4G/5G Then Gov can re-assigning some GSM900/GSM1800 to DNB to run 2G network meaing.. if the area no ppl use 2G, the spectrum will be used for 4G, otherwise, the shared block will be served as 2G purpose. So basically, all the spectrum 900/1800/2100/2600 at big 4 are all used for 4G now. no such reband or refarm anymore after 3G sunset. The only radio team inside big 4 can do now is adding spectrum to existing site and change 10mhz to 15mhz for their 2100mhz after 3G sunset. BTW just sharing, currently digi only implement 4CC/MIMO/256QAM for their network, tat is y digi result at speedtest/other report has suddenly improved compared to other 3 that ad implement this 3 years ago. This post has been edited by prosibu: Dec 21 2021, 08:24 PM |
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Dec 21 2021, 08:25 PM
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Most of the time 4G giving 2 bars
Stupid dumba$$ move, only bcoz gomen wants to make money from 5G DNB |
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Dec 21 2021, 09:09 PM
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Oh well... kita dah merdeka sejak 1957... so, look at where we are now compared to "similar" country(ies)...
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Dec 22 2021, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(prosibu @ Dec 21 2021, 08:23 PM) I think major telco has provided information that some of their spectrum especially 900/1800mhz are doing DSS. dynamic spectrum sharing... Could you share a bit more on the DIGI thing you had mentioned ? Does this benefit all end users or only those with certain phones? Because I’m using iPhone 11 Pro Max and I already can get 120mbps + when I’m upstairs in my house, but when I go downstairs the speed drops to around 3mbps even when the signal strength shows full barmeaing.. if the area no ppl use 2G, the spectrum will be used for 4G, otherwise, the shared block will be served as 2G purpose. So basically, all the spectrum 900/1800/2100/2600 at big 4 are all used for 4G now. no such reband or refarm anymore after 3G sunset. The only radio team inside big 4 can do now is adding spectrum to existing site and change 10mhz to 15mhz for their 2100mhz after 3G sunset. BTW just sharing, currently digi only implement 4CC/MIMO/256QAM for their network, tat is y digi result at speedtest/other report has suddenly improved compared to other 3 that ad implement this 3 years ago. Is there something going on with the 4cc here? Or do I need to upgrade my phone |
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Dec 22 2021, 02:53 AM
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QUOTE(shaktiv8 @ Dec 22 2021, 12:00 AM) Could you share a bit more on the DIGI thing you had mentioned ? Does this benefit all end users or only those with certain phones? Because I’m using iPhone 11 Pro Max and I already can get 120mbps + when I’m upstairs in my house, but when I go downstairs the speed drops to around 3mbps even when the signal strength shows full bar 11 pro max already can support all these features. So ur issue should be coverage liao Is there something going on with the 4cc here? Or do I need to upgrade my phone Does this benefit all end users or only those with certain phones? It benefit for all users depends on the phones capability. Some phone support 3CC and MIMO and 256QAM some phone support 4CC and MIMO and 256QAM some phone only support MIMO and 256QAm (who knows) shaktiv8 liked this post
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Dec 22 2021, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(prosibu @ Dec 21 2021, 08:23 PM) I think major telco has provided information that some of their spectrum especially 900/1800mhz are doing DSS. dynamic spectrum sharing... Hmm thats why i can get 250+ Mbps on Digi 4G in MRT Bukit Bintang and also Kuantan Indera Mahkotameaing.. if the area no ppl use 2G, the spectrum will be used for 4G, otherwise, the shared block will be served as 2G purpose. So basically, all the spectrum 900/1800/2100/2600 at big 4 are all used for 4G now. no such reband or refarm anymore after 3G sunset. The only radio team inside big 4 can do now is adding spectrum to existing site and change 10mhz to 15mhz for their 2100mhz after 3G sunset. BTW just sharing, currently digi only implement 4CC/MIMO/256QAM for their network, tat is y digi result at speedtest/other report has suddenly improved compared to other 3 that ad implement this 3 years ago. ![]() ![]() prosibu liked this post
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Dec 22 2021, 10:26 AM
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Dec 22 2021, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(prosibu @ Dec 22 2021, 02:53 AM) 11 pro max already can support all these features. So ur issue should be coverage liao Thank you!!Does this benefit all end users or only those with certain phones? It benefit for all users depends on the phones capability. Some phone support 3CC and MIMO and 256QAM some phone support 4CC and MIMO and 256QAM some phone only support MIMO and 256QAm (who knows) |
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Dec 22 2021, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(Sam Leong @ Dec 22 2021, 10:26 AM) And also seems like Digi updated their 3G shutdown schedule I know central is delayed because of ongoing flood, many networks are having issues especially with internet still, and it is not the time to be removing a whole band of internet. Im weird because i tot Perak already got shut down 3G but i still receive 3G signal As for you still able to get 3G, based on the chart perak 3G will only shutdown on the 3rd now. Then you will loose your 3G too |
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Dec 22 2021, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(prosibu @ Dec 22 2021, 02:53 AM) 11 pro max already can support all these features. So ur issue should be coverage liao how to know what QAM I am receiving?Does this benefit all end users or only those with certain phones? It benefit for all users depends on the phones capability. Some phone support 3CC and MIMO and 256QAM some phone support 4CC and MIMO and 256QAM some phone only support MIMO and 256QAm (who knows) I know maxis doing 4CC and MIMO but don't know they have 256QAM or not, speed is a bit slower than Digi in my area |
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QUOTE(shaktiv8 @ Dec 22 2021, 12:00 AM) Could you share a bit more on the DIGI thing you had mentioned ? Does this benefit all end users or only those with certain phones? Because I’m using iPhone 11 Pro Max and I already can get 120mbps + when I’m upstairs in my house, but when I go downstairs the speed drops to around 3mbps even when the signal strength shows full bar full bar does not mean good speed, likely when you go downstairs, you are receiving 900Mhz signal...Is there something going on with the 4cc here? Or do I need to upgrade my phone but which is better than mine, my downstairs only receive Maxis 2G 900Mhz, only sometime got Maxis 4G 900Mhz.... fortunately both telco digi and maxis have vowifi and I got Unifi fiber at home. shaktiv8 liked this post
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QUOTE(shaktiv8 @ Dec 22 2021, 12:57 PM) I know central is delayed because of ongoing flood, many networks are having issues especially with internet still, and it is not the time to be removing a whole band of internet. Just received the sms about 3G shutdown delayed because floodAs for you still able to get 3G, based on the chart perak 3G will only shutdown on the 3rd now. Then you will loose your 3G too Attached thumbnail(s) |
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