I dont have problem to wait but the sst exemption!!!
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Honda City GN 2, IMMD + Honda Sensing = RM106k
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Just being confirmed by SA, RS next year confirm 2021.
I dont have problem to wait but the sst exemption!!! zzzzz This post has been edited by MalekChua: Oct 7 2020, 01:46 PM |
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Oct 7 2020, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Oct 7 2020, 12:19 PM) Honda sensing include Adaptive cruise control collision mitigation braking system (AEB) Lane keeping assist road departure mitigation lane departure warning (with steering vibration), auto high-beam function. forward collision warning with nighttime pedestrian and cyclist detection thats much more than Almera AEB which utilize radar only and sole function is AEB |
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QUOTE(caviars @ Oct 7 2020, 09:00 PM) No concreate info on this I was told it will be 5k ++ more than V which made RS very very tempting but now with 1) no stock in 2020 2) smaller boots space by at least 100L 3) unknown price i dont think RS is a good choice now |
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Oct 7 2020, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Oct 6 2020, 10:33 PM) 1.5 comes with new engine. The new City comes with more welding points (increased chasis regidity), 6 layers of paint process. Better NVH. RS only available in 2021. Yes, notice the new DOHC engine. Overall I do feel the car is a bit more "solid" feeling (it could be placebo effect). Waiting to test drive the car to see how the NVH compare to my 2015 GM6 city.So its true there is no RS in 2020 like my SA said QUOTE(caviars @ Oct 6 2020, 10:52 PM) I test driven the almera, it is miles better than it's predecessor like those car reviewer had said on youtube. I like the almera semi-digital instrument clusterSpec wise, almera are much compelling to me compare to the city, but when the moment I sat in the almera, I can feel the typical 3 potter engine vibration when idling, slowing down till standstill on traffic light (it's a very minimal vibration, maybe I'm too sensitive) when I floor the throttle, the torque comes which is good but right after it shifts up, it need sometime for the boost to come (turbo characteristic) and before the boost come the car feel a little bit sluggish as it behaves like 1 liter NA on that moment (just my opinion, I'm not a professional car guy) For me, given the price is same for both, I might still consider V spec as much as I hate the analog instrument cluster. my reason as follows 1. I prefer the space of the city, when I saw the upcoming city in metal. It's silhouette makes me feel it is a larger car than the almera it feels more like a B+ segment sedan. and I feel the interior space is spacious than the almera 2. Although City only comes with 1.5NA, but if compares to the almera the tradeoff of losing the turbocharger isn't that much of an difference (my opinion), 145NM (city) vs 152NM(almera), 120ps(city) vs 100ps (almera) although the peak torque might be much earlier on the almera, but the city would not have the typical 3 cylinder vibration (I presume) since its a 4 cylinder 3. I like the LED headlight design than the almera (personal preferences) 4. I like the steering in the city than the almera (flat bottom steering is cool-though) but having said that, I will still need to test drive the city before I make any conclusion which to get.. who knows I might encounter some unforeseen deal-breaker factor The question now lingers on my mind is not really between City or Almera , is City or X50 QUOTE(heihei @ Oct 7 2020, 01:29 AM) Nope ... My SA make it clear that there is no Rs being build in 2020 I see. so indeed there is no RS this year. I wonder what's holding honda to release the RS and causing confusion to the potential customers, bad strategy to release on 2021 in my opinion..and worst thing is i ask if pricelocking applicable he say nope , honda might reveal pricing that u cant even get then when 2021 come, sst come then honda might compensate with some service voucher .... change booking to V after that but still hurts as RS have honda sensing and V is basically a E spec now ![]() this is how the V interior Look.... 8 inch screen, with WHITE insert on dashboard and door handle............................................... I can totally get your frustration as I am so frustrated as well. I agree that it is basically an E spec with addition LED headlamps if compares to previous model V spec, the only difference is the lane watch camera.....heck they "downgrade" the alloy wheels to single tone now compare to previous gen dual tone I still can accept honda sensing is absent on the V spec..disappointed with no EPB...but for me the ANALOG DIALS is the elephant in the room.. that dials is the low spec instrument cluster on overseas market...my 2015 city instrument cluster is prettier I think ParkBoGum liked this post
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Oct 7 2020, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(4EveRLonE @ Oct 7 2020, 11:32 PM) Yes, notice the new DOHC engine. Overall I do feel the car is a bit more "solid" feeling (it could be placebo effect). Waiting to test drive the car to see how the NVH compare to my 2015 GM6 city. tested almera too, can feel tiny bit of vibration when just started to move, imagine stuck with traffic and feel this every time u move So its true there is no RS in 2020 like my SA said I test driven the almera, it is miles better than it's predecessor like those car reviewer had said on youtube. I like the almera semi-digital instrument cluster Spec wise, almera are much compelling to me compare to the city, but when the moment I sat in the almera, I can feel the typical 3 potter engine vibration when idling, slowing down till standstill on traffic light (it's a very minimal vibration, maybe I'm too sensitive) when I floor the throttle, the torque comes which is good but right after it shifts up, it need sometime for the boost to come (turbo characteristic) and before the boost come the car feel a little bit sluggish as it behaves like 1 liter NA on that moment (just my opinion, I'm not a professional car guy) For me, given the price is same for both, I might still consider V spec as much as I hate the analog instrument cluster. my reason as follows 1. I prefer the space of the city, when I saw the upcoming city in metal. It's silhouette makes me feel it is a larger car than the almera it feels more like a B+ segment sedan. and I feel the interior space is spacious than the almera 2. Although City only comes with 1.5NA, but if compares to the almera the tradeoff of losing the turbocharger isn't that much of an difference (my opinion), 145NM (city) vs 152NM(almera), 120ps(city) vs 100ps (almera) although the peak torque might be much earlier on the almera, but the city would not have the typical 3 cylinder vibration (I presume) since its a 4 cylinder 3. I like the LED headlight design than the almera (personal preferences) 4. I like the steering in the city than the almera (flat bottom steering is cool-though) but having said that, I will still need to test drive the city before I make any conclusion which to get.. who knows I might encounter some unforeseen deal-breaker factor The question now lingers on my mind is not really between City or Almera , is City or X50 I see. so indeed there is no RS this year. I wonder what's holding honda to release the RS and causing confusion to the potential customers, bad strategy to release on 2021 in my opinion.. I can totally get your frustration as I am so frustrated as well. I agree that it is basically an E spec with addition LED headlamps if compares to previous model V spec, the only difference is the lane watch camera.....heck they "downgrade" the alloy wheels to single tone now compare to previous gen dual tone I still can accept honda sensing is absent on the V spec..disappointed with no EPB...but for me the ANALOG DIALS is the elephant in the room.. that dials is the low spec instrument cluster on overseas market...my 2015 city instrument cluster is prettier I think as for the power, first step on accelerator not bad, torque instantly pushing but the engine run out of power above 80 ?? it need more throttle input once in higher speed ya lah the car isnt far from the old V , and yes 2015 city meter is miles better, better design layout is clear, new one the design is small , tiny screen in the middle look like 20 year ago geh honda.... then found out RS have boot smaller by more than 100L ALL i wanted is V spec with Honda Sensing , why la honda, push RS yet come with tons of downside |
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QUOTE(heihei @ Oct 7 2020, 11:52 PM) tested almera too, can feel tiny bit of vibration when just started to move, imagine stuck with traffic and feel this every time u move Yes the almera feels a little bit runs out of puff once it went above 80...well it is a 1 liter engine after all.. turbocharger was meant to compensate the small displacement to equivalent 1.5 NAas for the power, first step on accelerator not bad, torque instantly pushing but the engine run out of power above 80 ?? it need more throttle input once in higher speed ya lah the car isnt far from the old V , and yes 2015 city meter is miles better, better design layout is clear, new one the design is small , tiny screen in the middle look like 20 year ago geh honda.... then found out RS have boot smaller by more than 100L ALL i wanted is V spec with Honda Sensing , why la honda, push RS yet come with tons of downside The sound insulation on almera is pretty decent, better than what I expected Your description was spot on, the pity tiny screen is so so so dated...directly makes the city feels cheaper than its pricing...imagine spending 90k for a car that feels cut spec I also wanted the honda sensing but too bad the reality slap us hard... the irony they pushing the RS but launching without the RS available for customers to enjoy the SST rebate Because of the way honda spec the city...it pushes me to consider other maker seriously, leaving me on a difficult situation |
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QUOTE(4EveRLonE @ Oct 8 2020, 12:20 AM) Yes the almera feels a little bit runs out of puff once it went above 80...well it is a 1 liter engine after all.. turbocharger was meant to compensate the small displacement to equivalent 1.5 NA actually the best B seg jap car soundproof is Vios but its fail in too many area and a facelift coming this year too The sound insulation on almera is pretty decent, better than what I expected Your description was spot on, the pity tiny screen is so so so dated...directly makes the city feels cheaper than its pricing...imagine spending 90k for a car that feels cut spec I also wanted the honda sensing but too bad the reality slap us hard... the irony they pushing the RS but launching without the RS available for customers to enjoy the SST rebate Because of the way honda spec the city...it pushes me to consider other maker seriously, leaving me on a difficult situation your next choice x50 ? price projected to be even higher than city and a very limited production capacity will certainly hamper the buyer looking for sst exemption from launching date x50 internal memo stated sst exemption will not be applicable for car register post 1 Jan 2021 |
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Oct 8 2020, 08:38 AM
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For me unfortunately i wont go anything lower than the RS. So got to sulk it up and pay the extra for 2021. On the bright side, at least the car is year 2021. Maybe a better resale value.
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QUOTE(heihei @ Oct 8 2020, 01:29 AM) actually the best B seg jap car soundproof is Vios but its fail in too many area and a facelift coming this year too Will need to test drive the x50 to see how that 3-potter fares...if it's like the almera maybe it's a no go for me tooyour next choice x50 ? price projected to be even higher than city and a very limited production capacity will certainly hamper the buyer looking for sst exemption from launching date x50 internal memo stated sst exemption will not be applicable for car register post 1 Jan 2021 Yes the bookings are overwhelming for x50 given its limited production capacity, given 50% of booking didn't make through, there is still 10K order for proton to fulfill I've placed my booking on the city and x50 as well, will see which car available to get within this year first and see what is the pricing for the RS on upcoming launch If RS pricing is attractive enough, will consider the possibility to get the RS instead next year |
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QUOTE(MalekChua @ Oct 8 2020, 08:38 AM) For me unfortunately i wont go anything lower than the RS. So got to sulk it up and pay the extra for 2021. On the bright side, at least the car is year 2021. Maybe a better resale value. RS spec is way more attractive than the V spec (and feels more like a 2020 car), if one can accept the immd and the pricing, should go for RS in my opinion |
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Just bought GM6 V spec last month... does not regret after seeing the latest GM7 V spec...
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QUOTE(MalekChua @ Oct 8 2020, 08:38 AM) For me unfortunately i wont go anything lower than the RS. So got to sulk it up and pay the extra for 2021. On the bright side, at least the car is year 2021. Maybe a better resale value. but RS boot is 100L ++ smaller than other variant even smaller than a proton saga |
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QUOTE(4EveRLonE @ Oct 8 2020, 10:15 AM) Will need to test drive the x50 to see how that 3-potter fares...if it's like the almera maybe it's a no go for me too same thing one , 3 potter will have slight jerk here n there , couple with dual clutch meaning low speed driving will not be as easyYes the bookings are overwhelming for x50 given its limited production capacity, given 50% of booking didn't make through, there is still 10K order for proton to fulfill I've placed my booking on the city and x50 as well, will see which car available to get within this year first and see what is the pricing for the RS on upcoming launch If RS pricing is attractive enough, will consider the possibility to get the RS instead next year |
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Anyone here who has seen the new car managed to ask Honda SA why the 1.0 turbo engine was not offered in our market ?
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QUOTE(heihei @ Oct 8 2020, 02:03 PM) For me, City it is replacing my secondary car. Since my car now also the boot is empty as always as use for working only. So yeah, boot doesnt matter to me. This post has been edited by MalekChua: Oct 8 2020, 05:26 PM |
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