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 Honda City GN 2, IMMD + Honda Sensing = RM106k

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post Oct 7 2020, 01:45 PM

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Just being confirmed by SA, RS next year confirm 2021.
I dont have problem to wait but the sst exemption!!! vmad.gif
zzzzz

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post Oct 7 2020, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Oct 7 2020, 12:19 PM)
Thanks
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Honda sensing include
Adaptive cruise control
collision mitigation braking system (AEB)
Lane keeping assist
road departure mitigation
lane departure warning (with steering vibration),
auto high-beam function.
forward collision warning with nighttime pedestrian and cyclist detection

thats much more than Almera AEB which utilize radar only and sole function is AEB

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post Oct 7 2020, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(MalekChua @ Oct 7 2020, 01:45 PM)
Just being confirmed by SA, RS next year confirm 2021.
I dont have problem to wait but the sst exemption!!!  vmad.gif
zzzzz
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Worst is that HONDA cannot lock the price
they could only compensate with some Promotion ...
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post Oct 7 2020, 08:48 PM

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this is the Normal V spec look doh.gif doh.gif
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post Oct 7 2020, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(zairee2580 @ Oct 7 2020, 10:59 AM)
Normal spec already in production line. Rs spec...
My sa said rs might have a smaller boot space to compensate the battery. Well, it's a hybrid after all
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i get the exact volume in L and its more than 100L smaller bruce.gif bangwall.gif
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post Oct 7 2020, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(heihei @ Oct 7 2020, 08:39 PM)
Worst is that HONDA cannot lock the price
they could only compensate with some Promotion ...
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What is the estimated price for RS? For other variant, is it same as current gen?
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post Oct 7 2020, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(caviars @ Oct 7 2020, 09:00 PM)
What is the estimated price for RS? For other variant, is it same as current gen?
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No concreate info on this

I was told it will be 5k ++ more than V which made RS very very tempting but now with
1) no stock in 2020
2) smaller boots space by at least 100L
3) unknown price

i dont think RS is a good choice now

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post Oct 7 2020, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Oct 6 2020, 10:33 PM)
1.5 comes with new engine. The new City comes with more welding points (increased chasis regidity), 6 layers of paint process. Better NVH. RS only available in 2021.
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Yes, notice the new DOHC engine. Overall I do feel the car is a bit more "solid" feeling (it could be placebo effect). Waiting to test drive the car to see how the NVH compare to my 2015 GM6 city.

So its true there is no RS in 2020 like my SA said

QUOTE(caviars @ Oct 6 2020, 10:52 PM)
Thanks for the info. Would u still consider the V spec if the price is same as Almera VLT?
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I test driven the almera, it is miles better than it's predecessor like those car reviewer had said on youtube. I like the almera semi-digital instrument cluster

Spec wise, almera are much compelling to me compare to the city,

but when the moment I sat in the almera, I can feel the typical 3 potter engine vibration when idling, slowing down till standstill on traffic light (it's a very minimal vibration, maybe I'm too sensitive)

when I floor the throttle, the torque comes which is good but right after it shifts up, it need sometime for the boost to come (turbo characteristic) and before the boost come the car feel a little bit sluggish as it behaves like 1 liter NA on that moment (just my opinion, I'm not a professional car guy)

For me, given the price is same for both, I might still consider V spec as much as I hate the analog instrument cluster. my reason as follows
1. I prefer the space of the city, when I saw the upcoming city in metal. It's silhouette makes me feel it is a larger car than the almera it feels more like a B+ segment sedan. and I feel the interior space is spacious than the almera
2. Although City only comes with 1.5NA, but if compares to the almera the tradeoff of losing the turbocharger isn't that much of an difference (my opinion), 145NM (city) vs 152NM(almera), 120ps(city) vs 100ps (almera) although the peak torque might be much earlier on the almera, but the city would not have the typical 3 cylinder vibration (I presume) since its a 4 cylinder
3. I like the LED headlight design than the almera (personal preferences)
4. I like the steering in the city than the almera (flat bottom steering is cool-though)

but having said that, I will still need to test drive the city before I make any conclusion which to get.. who knows I might encounter some unforeseen deal-breaker factor tongue.gif

The question now lingers on my mind is not really between City or Almera , is City or X50


QUOTE(heihei @ Oct 7 2020, 01:29 AM)
Nope ... My SA make it clear that there is no Rs being build in 2020
and worst thing is i ask if pricelocking applicable he say nope , honda might reveal pricing that u cant even get  doh.gif 
then when 2021 come, sst come then honda might compensate with some service voucher ....

change booking to V after that
but still hurts as RS have honda sensing and V is basically a E spec now  vmad.gif

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this is how the V interior Look.... 8 inch screen, with WHITE insert on dashboard and door handle...............................................
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I see. so indeed there is no RS this year. I wonder what's holding honda to release the RS and causing confusion to the potential customers, bad strategy to release on 2021 in my opinion..

I can totally get your frustration as I am so frustrated as well. I agree that it is basically an E spec with addition LED headlamps

if compares to previous model V spec, the only difference is the lane watch camera.....heck they "downgrade" the alloy wheels to single tone now compare to previous gen dual tone mad.gif mad.gif

I still can accept honda sensing is absent on the V spec..disappointed with no EPB...but for me the ANALOG DIALS is the elephant in the room.. bangwall.gif bangwall.gif

that dials is the low spec instrument cluster on overseas market...my 2015 city instrument cluster is prettier I think
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post Oct 7 2020, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(4EveRLonE @ Oct 7 2020, 11:32 PM)
Yes, notice the new DOHC engine. Overall I do feel the car is a bit more "solid" feeling (it could be placebo effect). Waiting to test drive the car to see how the NVH compare to my 2015 GM6 city.

So its true there is no RS in 2020 like my SA said
I test driven the almera, it is miles better than it's predecessor like those car reviewer had said on youtube. I like the almera semi-digital instrument cluster

Spec wise, almera are much compelling to me compare to the city,

but when the moment I sat in the almera, I can feel the typical 3 potter engine vibration when idling, slowing down till standstill on traffic light (it's a very minimal vibration, maybe I'm too sensitive)

when I floor the throttle, the torque comes which is good but right after it shifts up, it need sometime for the boost to come (turbo characteristic) and before the boost come the car feel a little bit sluggish as it behaves like 1 liter NA on that moment (just my opinion, I'm not a professional car guy)

For me, given the price is same for both, I might still consider V spec as much as I hate the analog instrument cluster. my reason as follows
1. I prefer the space of the city, when I saw the upcoming city in metal. It's silhouette makes me feel it is a larger car than the almera it feels more like a B+ segment sedan. and I feel the interior space is spacious than the almera
2. Although City only comes with 1.5NA, but if compares to the almera the tradeoff of losing the turbocharger isn't that much of an difference (my opinion), 145NM (city) vs 152NM(almera), 120ps(city) vs 100ps (almera) although the peak torque might be much earlier on the almera, but the city would not have the typical 3 cylinder vibration (I presume) since its a 4 cylinder
3. I like the LED headlight design than the almera (personal preferences)
4. I like the steering in the city than the almera (flat bottom steering is cool-though)

but having said that, I will still need to test drive the city before I make any conclusion which to get.. who knows I might encounter some unforeseen deal-breaker factor  tongue.gif

The question now lingers on my mind is not really between City or Almera , is City or X50
I see. so indeed there is no RS this year. I wonder what's holding honda to release the RS and causing confusion to the potential customers, bad strategy to release on 2021 in my opinion..

I can totally get your frustration as I am so frustrated as well. I agree that it is basically an E spec with addition LED headlamps

if compares to previous model V spec, the only difference is the lane watch camera.....heck they "downgrade" the alloy wheels to single tone now compare to previous gen dual tone  mad.gif mad.gif

I still can accept honda sensing is absent on the V spec..disappointed with no EPB...but for me the ANALOG DIALS is the elephant in the room..  bangwall.gif bangwall.gif

that dials is the low spec instrument cluster on overseas market...my 2015 city instrument cluster is prettier I think
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tested almera too, can feel tiny bit of vibration when just started to move, imagine stuck with traffic and feel this every time u move sad.gif sad.gif
as for the power, first step on accelerator not bad, torque instantly pushing but the engine run out of power above 80 ?? it need more throttle input once in higher speed

ya lah the car isnt far from the old V , and yes 2015 city meter is miles better, better design layout is clear, new one the design is small , tiny screen in the middle look like 20 year ago geh honda....

then found out RS have boot smaller by more than 100L

ALL i wanted is V spec with Honda Sensing , why la honda, push RS yet come with tons of downside ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif

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post Oct 8 2020, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(heihei @ Oct 7 2020, 11:52 PM)
tested almera too, can feel tiny bit of vibration when just started to move, imagine stuck with traffic and feel this every time u move  sad.gif  sad.gif
as for the power, first step on accelerator not bad, torque instantly pushing but the engine run out of power above 80 ?? it need more throttle input once in higher speed

ya lah the car isnt far from the old V , and yes 2015 city meter is miles better, better design layout is clear, new one the design is small , tiny screen in the middle look like 20 year ago geh honda....

then found out RS have boot smaller by more than 100L

ALL i wanted is V spec with Honda Sensing , why la honda, push RS yet come with tons of downside  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif
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Yes the almera feels a little bit runs out of puff once it went above 80...well it is a 1 liter engine after all.. turbocharger was meant to compensate the small displacement to equivalent 1.5 NA

The sound insulation on almera is pretty decent, better than what I expected

Your description was spot on, the pity tiny screen is so so so dated...directly makes the city feels cheaper than its pricing...imagine spending 90k for a car that feels cut spec cry.gif

I also wanted the honda sensing but too bad the reality slap us hard... the irony they pushing the RS but launching without the RS available for customers to enjoy the SST rebate doh.gif

Because of the way honda spec the city...it pushes me to consider other maker seriously, leaving me on a difficult situation sad.gif
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post Oct 8 2020, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(4EveRLonE @ Oct 8 2020, 12:20 AM)
Yes the almera feels a little bit runs out of puff once it went above 80...well it is a 1 liter engine after all.. turbocharger was meant to compensate the small displacement to equivalent 1.5 NA

The sound insulation on almera is pretty decent, better than what I expected

Your description was spot on, the pity tiny screen is so so so dated...directly makes the city feels cheaper than its pricing...imagine spending 90k for a car that feels cut spec  cry.gif

I also wanted the honda sensing but too bad the reality slap us hard... the irony they pushing the RS but launching without the RS available for customers to enjoy the SST rebate  doh.gif

Because of the way honda spec the city...it pushes me to consider other maker seriously, leaving me on a difficult situation  sad.gif
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actually the best B seg jap car soundproof is Vios but its fail in too many area and a facelift coming this year too vmad.gif

your next choice x50 ?

price projected to be even higher than city
and a very limited production capacity will certainly hamper the buyer looking for sst exemption
from launching date x50 internal memo stated sst exemption will not be applicable for car register post 1 Jan 2021 mad.gif
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post Oct 8 2020, 08:38 AM

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For me unfortunately i wont go anything lower than the RS. So got to sulk it up and pay the extra for 2021. On the bright side, at least the car is year 2021. Maybe a better resale value.
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post Oct 8 2020, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(heihei @ Oct 8 2020, 01:29 AM)
actually the best B seg jap car soundproof is Vios but its fail in too many area and a facelift coming this year too vmad.gif

your next choice x50 ?

price projected to be even higher than city
and a very limited production capacity will certainly hamper the buyer looking for sst exemption
from launching date x50 internal memo stated sst exemption will not be applicable for car register post 1 Jan 2021  mad.gif
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Will need to test drive the x50 to see how that 3-potter fares...if it's like the almera maybe it's a no go for me too

Yes the bookings are overwhelming for x50 given its limited production capacity, given 50% of booking didn't make through, there is still 10K order for proton to fulfill sweat.gif

I've placed my booking on the city and x50 as well, will see which car available to get within this year first and see what is the pricing for the RS on upcoming launch

If RS pricing is attractive enough, will consider the possibility to get the RS instead next year
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post Oct 8 2020, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(MalekChua @ Oct 8 2020, 08:38 AM)
For me unfortunately i wont go anything lower than the RS. So got to sulk it up and pay the extra for 2021. On the bright side, at least the car is year 2021. Maybe a better resale value.
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RS spec is way more attractive than the V spec (and feels more like a 2020 car), if one can accept the immd and the pricing, should go for RS in my opinion
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Just bought GM6 V spec last month... does not regret after seeing the latest GM7 V spec...

edit: typo

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post Oct 8 2020, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(MalekChua @ Oct 8 2020, 08:38 AM)
For me unfortunately i wont go anything lower than the RS. So got to sulk it up and pay the extra for 2021. On the bright side, at least the car is year 2021. Maybe a better resale value.
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but RS boot is 100L ++ smaller than other variant
even smaller than a proton saga puke.gif puke.gif
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post Oct 8 2020, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(4EveRLonE @ Oct 8 2020, 10:15 AM)
Will need to test drive the x50 to see how that 3-potter fares...if it's like the almera maybe it's a no go for me too

Yes the bookings are overwhelming for x50 given its limited production capacity, given 50% of booking didn't make through, there is still 10K order for proton to fulfill  sweat.gif

I've placed my booking on the city and x50 as well, will see which car available to get within this year first and see what is the pricing for the RS on upcoming launch

If RS pricing is attractive enough, will consider the possibility to get the RS instead next year
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same thing one , 3 potter will have slight jerk here n there , couple with dual clutch meaning low speed driving will not be as easy
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Anyone here who has seen the new car managed to ask Honda SA why the 1.0 turbo engine was not offered in our market ?

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post Oct 8 2020, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(heihei @ Oct 8 2020, 02:03 PM)
but RS boot is 100L ++ smaller than other variant
even smaller than a proton saga  puke.gif  puke.gif
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For me, City it is replacing my secondary car.
Since my car now also the boot is empty as always as use for working only.
So yeah, boot doesnt matter to me.

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post Oct 8 2020, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Oct 8 2020, 03:11 PM)
Anyone here who has seen the new car managed to ask Honda SA why the 1.0 turbo engine was not offered in our market ?
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Why need to ask? Turbo is ntg to hype about especially 1.0.
I dun even think bout that turbo.

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