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 Proton X50 2020 v1, B-Segment killer

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post Apr 6 2021, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(MNF0 @ Apr 6 2021, 09:25 PM)
For those who want to only service their cars through the official channel, what options (offer by the manufacturer) do they have with regard to this carbon build up?
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replace new valve lol.
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post Apr 7 2021, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 6 2021, 11:17 PM)
replace new valve lol.
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What about carbon deposit cleaners?

Does that work? Walnut blasting?
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post Apr 7 2021, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(MNF0 @ Apr 6 2021, 09:25 PM)
For those who want to only service their cars through the official channel, what options (offer by the manufacturer) do they have with regard to this carbon build up?
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Wait them change back to port injection or make it dual gdi + port as Toyota, Lexus, latest vw engine
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post Apr 7 2021, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Apr 7 2021, 08:28 AM)
What about carbon deposit cleaners?

Does that work? Walnut blasting?
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Non work unless send carbon cleaning via walnut. Fuel not shoot at valve
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post Apr 7 2021, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Apr 7 2021, 08:28 AM)
What about carbon deposit cleaners?

Does that work? Walnut blasting?
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official sc where got
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post Apr 7 2021, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 6 2021, 10:01 AM)
agreed on carbon build-up issues. but it happens per 60k km interval and costs about rm500-700 per cleaning outside. no manufacturer offers walnut cleaning as service interval including proton. for me rm700 per 60k km is ok
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That is a good way of lookin at it,just add $700 to maintenance budjet. As you said it is need a deccarb only around 60K which in my case is 3 years. Good input bro!
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post Apr 7 2021, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 7 2021, 08:32 AM)
Non work unless send carbon cleaning via walnut. Fuel not shoot at valve
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what happens with carbon buildup? worse fc?
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post Apr 7 2021, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Apr 7 2021, 09:17 AM)
what happens with carbon buildup? worse fc?
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Yes. Feel laggy and less power for some engine.
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post Apr 7 2021, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 6 2021, 11:17 PM)
replace new valve lol.
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Serious answer please.

QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 7 2021, 08:31 AM)
Wait them change back to port injection or make it dual gdi + port as Toyota, Lexus, latest vw engine
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I'm talking about those who already bought the current DI model, not some future engine options.
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QUOTE(MNF0 @ Apr 7 2021, 11:52 AM)
Serious answer please.
I'm talking about those who already bought the current DI model, not some future engine options.
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Then spend rm700 per 60k km. Its a known issues for GDI from all car manufacturers.
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post Apr 7 2021, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(MNF0 @ Apr 6 2021, 09:25 PM)
For those who want to only service their cars through the official channel, what options (offer by the manufacturer) do they have with regard to this carbon build up?
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No offer from Proton on removing the carbon build up. You need to send outside for walnut blasting. If I remember correctly, during X50 launch at Sepang, there was Q&A session and one of the attendees raised this issue on DI -> carbon build up issue. Proton response on the spot was that they have observed in other DI cars (I can't remember which car) and no significant carbon built up. So yeah, standby to send outside for blasting unless Proton offer this service in the future.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 7 2021, 11:54 AM)
Then spend rm700 per 60k km. Its a known issues for GDI from all car manufacturers.
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If you're talking about walnut blasting.

It could be cheaper at about RM500, & can delay up to 100k km intervals.
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QUOTE(idkihavenoidealol @ Apr 7 2021, 01:41 PM)
No offer from Proton on removing the carbon build up. You need to send outside for walnut blasting. If I remember correctly, during X50 launch at Sepang, there was Q&A session and one of the attendees raised this issue on DI -> carbon build up issue. Proton response on the spot was that they have observed in other DI cars (I can't remember which car) and no significant carbon built up. So yeah, standby to send outside for blasting unless Proton offer this service in the future.
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iinm even Mazda also say their car GDI is less susceptible to carbon built up. But saw one FB shop shown Mazda 3 GDI carbon walnut cleaning b4 and after clean. Basically carbon built up is there even with Mazda statement. so agreed, standby for walnut cleaning in future
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QUOTE(idkihavenoidealol @ Apr 7 2021, 01:41 PM)
No offer from Proton on removing the carbon build up. You need to send outside for walnut blasting. If I remember correctly, during X50 launch at Sepang, there was Q&A session and one of the attendees raised this issue on DI -> carbon build up issue. Proton response on the spot was that they have observed in other DI cars (I can't remember which car) and no significant carbon built up. So yeah, standby to send outside for blasting unless Proton offer this service in the future.
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I'd say Proton reps simply don't understand DI concepts!
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 7 2021, 01:52 PM)
iinm even Mazda also say their car GDI is less susceptible to carbon built up. But saw one FB shop shown Mazda 3 GDI carbon walnut cleaning b4 and after clean. Basically carbon built up is there even with Mazda statement. so agreed, standby for walnut cleaning in future
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Typical sales pitch. This should never be a question,unless pigs can fly!
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post Apr 7 2021, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 7 2021, 11:54 AM)
Then spend rm700 per 60k km. Its a known issues for GDI from all car manufacturers.
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Money is not an issue here, servicing outside is.
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QUOTE(MNF0 @ Apr 7 2021, 02:33 PM)
Money is not an issue here,  servicing outside is.
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service outside for walnut cleaning. no manufacturer offers this service under their service guideline. so fast2 survey fb walnut cleaning service

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post Apr 7 2021, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(MNF0 @ Apr 7 2021, 02:33 PM)
Money is not an issue here,  servicing outside is.
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If you worry about walnut blasting that requires the engine to be dismantled,

You can try Liqui Moly Jet Clean Tronic service. If you go to their malaysian website, there is a list of service partners that provides this.

The service cost about RM550.

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post Apr 7 2021, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(MNF0 @ Apr 7 2021, 11:52 AM)
Serious answer please.
I'm talking about those who already bought the current DI model, not some future engine options.
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u may find funny (metoo)
tapi official sc able do this only. yang lain they send ur car outside so haha
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do the current waiting list still need wait ~6months to get the unit?

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