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 Proton X50 2020 v1, B-Segment killer

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SKYjack
post Sep 20 2020, 09:54 AM

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I'm targeting the Premium. Not infavor of these upgrades:

1. TGDi engine - DI engine tends to buildup premature carbon. This will need additional maintenance

2 .Panoramic sunroof - Dont find this useful in our weather

3. Driver assist - Dont think it will be useful for my driving




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post Oct 11 2020, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(exdtan @ Oct 11 2020, 08:56 AM)
Guys if you look at it carefully, it is the transmission that make up the difference. CVT fluid only cost 124 something, while DCT fluid cost 500.
I wonder if dual-clutch really mean to be expensive to maintain ?
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Tq for this feedback. I'm interested in this vehicle & started researching details before I plunge in. The info you put is certainly of concern!

I find the spec questionable. IMO I feel the vehicle has not got the power (177hp 256nm ) Proton claims. When it struggles against 140hp vehicles, I find this alarming. I dont believe the claimed FC. At the moment dont have any proof on this issue!




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post Oct 15 2020, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(heihei @ Oct 11 2020, 02:39 PM)
in some video it seem hrv even beaten the x50 ....

worst of all , Honda hrv and Bmw x1 use the same car while x50 change car twice still fail to secure 100% win  doh.gif
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QUOTE(exdtan @ Oct 11 2020, 11:48 AM)
Yea it’s fishy and suspicious the way proton ‘claim’ so proudly but failed to demonstrate or rather an overstatement.

I can’t wait to get my car and do a sprint run without ‘launch control’ to see if it’s anywhere near 8 seconds
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I think this is due to poor transmission design. Transmission on this vehicle is Geely inhouse design. It struggles against HRV with 40hp less!

Paul Tan claims 9s+ on sprint. I tend to believe this.
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post Oct 25 2020, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(otai_g @ Oct 22 2020, 05:26 PM)
waste time this car.

nak jual, jual je lah. y need to booking 1st before launch and announce price.

waste people time when u collect booking before announce price.
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All the hype to get more sales!

Those who booked flagship are going to be disapointed the vehicle is much slower than claimed. When it struggles to beat another SUV which has 40hp less, performance figures are questionable. I believe FC too will not be as claimed!

This could be due to dual clutch transmission design not up to par with western designs. Understand transmission is inhouse Geely design.
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post Oct 26 2020, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Trinax @ Oct 25 2020, 12:34 PM)
Most of the cars being sold have higher FC than claimed. Those advertised FC are always in optimum driving condition under a steady speed. Even Volkswagen have its own share of controversy. As for the horse power, as much as Proton uses it as one of their selling point, I don't think anyone in their right mind is going to buy X50 for their speed.
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Well that's the fact. There's whole load of guys who are not in the right mind! what u expect when Myvi fellows drive like crazy!
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post Oct 27 2020, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(clarkblitz @ Oct 26 2020, 06:19 PM)
Wah. The citric orange 😍. Damn it looks good irl.
I made the right color choice. Hehe
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What color is the dashbord? If its pink, is it a mismatch with orange outside?
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post Oct 29 2020, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(clarkblitz @ Oct 28 2020, 10:19 AM)
Exec dashboard is grey, so OK la
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Yeah grey looks good. I wonder how pink will match orange on Flagship or Premium? I am considering orange Premium, but prefer grey dashbord!

2nd option is Metalic silver exterior.

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post Jan 14 2021, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jan 11 2021, 11:12 PM)

Not sure if you all know, the piston used on this X50 is flat top which should be the most efficient design compared to doom/dish and this may also explain why Carbon Build up don't seems like a thing to this car due to more efficient combustion
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I'm very interested to know this higher combustion efficiency by flat doom piston. Is it a Geely patent? Tq.
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post Feb 21 2021, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Feb 21 2021, 03:08 AM)
Tempted by the Honda HRV 2022 actually which I think has a much nicer exterior...
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For me HRV interior is too basic & a let down for the price. Will look at the new model.
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post Feb 23 2021, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(David_Yang @ Feb 21 2021, 04:18 PM)
Yes, rather unsexy. Ativa samesame.

That is a big plus for the X50, Geely really knows how to make the interior look luxury. With not even the flagship having leather seats.
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I tend to agree here. After looking at all the suggested vehicles, X50 is top on my list. The orange is very pretty. Most likely to get the Premium in this color.

I can afford the flagship, but dislike moonroof. Not in favor of DI engines, prefer port injection.
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post Feb 26 2021, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(exdtan @ Feb 23 2021, 11:39 AM)
If you can wait til end of Dec 2021 then go for HRV 2022. I doubt Malaysia will have it by 2022 though. Avoid getting your hope’s high
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I am intending to get an SUV in 2022. So decided to research the coming HRV.

1st impression , not impressed at all. The front looks aweful! Interior has improved but seems like a lazy attempt, nothing to wow! The Ativa also does not appeal to me!

X50 still leads on my list! Saw an orange X50 yesterday. Really very pretty! I'm prepared to wait for this color as I'm not in a hurry!

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post Feb 27 2021, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(Kappest @ Feb 26 2021, 03:58 PM)
If you think of getting in 2022, booking now, 2022 will get
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Wow.......which means very good response for this model. The more I look at this SUV, the more I like it. Will test drive soon.

Tks bro!
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post Mar 17 2021, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(jaychew90 @ Mar 17 2021, 12:05 AM)
Booked white Flagship on 17th sept...till now SA still don't know when will get mine. Only know there's 3 more ppl Infront of me waiting for the same colout and variant.
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The problem in color choice is waiting period. Paint shop does not do individual request! That's just not possible. Paintshop will bulk paint,meaning paint in batches.

However this should not take more than a couple of months unless your variant is not a popular choice. Flagship would not take this long.

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post Mar 19 2021, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Mar 17 2021, 10:23 AM)
The problem in color choice is waiting period. Paint shop does not do individual request! That's just not possible. Paintshop will bulk paint,meaning paint in batches.

However this should not take more than a couple of months unless your variant is not a popular choice. Flagship would not take this long.
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Yes I think so! Confront your agent, it shouldnot take so long!

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post Apr 6 2021, 09:45 AM

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10K does not make huge dent in the pocket for anyone when spread out on loan for a number of years.

However I'm not keen on the FS for another reason, something no one is looking at! FS is a DI engine, thats the reason for extra horses. The issue with DI egines is premature carbon build up. There is no running away , all DIs suffer from this phenomena. Over the years Manufactures have redesign pistons and a few items to delay this issue.

Although presently this issue is somewhat under control, its proven fact Port injection suffers less on this issue than DI engine.

For this reason & the extras which I dont consider necessary, I've decided to get Executive!Just my 2 cents worth. Welcome opinions,tq!
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post Apr 7 2021, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 6 2021, 10:01 AM)
agreed on carbon build-up issues. but it happens per 60k km interval and costs about rm500-700 per cleaning outside. no manufacturer offers walnut cleaning as service interval including proton. for me rm700 per 60k km is ok
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That is a good way of lookin at it,just add $700 to maintenance budjet. As you said it is need a deccarb only around 60K which in my case is 3 years. Good input bro!
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post Apr 7 2021, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(idkihavenoidealol @ Apr 7 2021, 01:41 PM)
No offer from Proton on removing the carbon build up. You need to send outside for walnut blasting. If I remember correctly, during X50 launch at Sepang, there was Q&A session and one of the attendees raised this issue on DI -> carbon build up issue. Proton response on the spot was that they have observed in other DI cars (I can't remember which car) and no significant carbon built up. So yeah, standby to send outside for blasting unless Proton offer this service in the future.
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I'd say Proton reps simply don't understand DI concepts!
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post Apr 7 2021, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 7 2021, 01:52 PM)
iinm even Mazda also say their car GDI is less susceptible to carbon built up. But saw one FB shop shown Mazda 3 GDI carbon walnut cleaning b4 and after clean. Basically carbon built up is there even with Mazda statement. so agreed, standby for walnut cleaning in future
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Typical sales pitch. This should never be a question,unless pigs can fly!
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post Apr 8 2021, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(MNF0 @ Apr 7 2021, 02:33 PM)
Money is not an issue here,  servicing outside is.
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I'd agree since this would break warranty. This where owner got to play it smart. Don't tell them, no one knows! The whole idea of walnut blasting is to keep the engine running in top shape, a service Proton does not provide.

By doing it quietly, the engine is in top shape & warranty is not void!


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post Aug 27 2021, 10:57 AM

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X50 is small. Anyone wanting space due to new addition to family should consider X70.

I remember packing my Volvo 240 to the brim with baby stuff when we had our 1st son. Some stuff had to go on to the back seat. Those days back seat could not be folded.

SUVs are great. Now that my kids are all living on their own, I'm intending to get X50. The size fits me just fine, occasionally need to carry extra stuff or tag along uncle/aunty!

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