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 TNB Allo Nationwide Open Fibre Expansion, CBJ,Malacca,Perak,Penang,Johor & Kedah

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post Jul 7 2020, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(MysticShadow @ Jul 3 2020, 04:44 PM)
@Candy12 I tried to apply for Maxis Fibre but their Customer Service called to say that after checking with their Maxperts, even though my area has fibre cables, because I’m in a low-rise building the management needs to contract them or Unifi to install the cables first. sad.gif There’s already someone holding the rights to do the installation cos she said Maxis is blocked from checking further - not sure what she means by this.
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It means your building JMB or management hasn't signup with either telco provider yet for service commencement. You have to chase or advise your building management/JMB to contact the interested fibre provider to hook up your building first before they can start servicing your building.

The hold up is your building management board which is delaying the whole process because of being indecisive.
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post Jul 7 2020, 06:42 PM

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Maybe this is good news, maybe... City broadband FB official page, some of the post got #ipoh

https://pictr.com/images/2020/07/07/7gVmi2.md.jpg

maybe city broadband coming to ipoh area?
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post Jul 7 2020, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Jul 7 2020, 06:42 PM)
Maybe this is good news, maybe... City broadband FB official page, some of the post got #ipoh
<a href='https://pictr.com/images/2020/07/07/7gVmi2.md.jpg' target='_blank'>https://pictr.com/images/2020/07/07/7gVmi2.md.jpg </a>
maybe city broadband coming to ipoh area?
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Yeah can try contacting Allo/City Broadband HQ at Cyberjaya to enquire about their service expansion to Ipoh.

1-300-38-8000

https://allo.my/contact-us/

QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Jun 30 2020, 11:20 PM)
yup,basically you are right⋯ but until now, we not sure hv any other ISP or not and what is the deal between allo and astro? maybe contract only allow Astro ISP in Menglembu? So we need to wait the official announcement ...
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There are already 4 or more ISPs servicing TNB Allo covered areas in Cyberjaya, and Jasin, Malacca at the moment as announced in the latest news:

Astro Broadband
City Broadband
DiGi
Maxis

The reference pricing is based on City Broadband's pricing model which is a subsidiary of TNB for all participating telcos in the open infra.

They are ON PAR if not even better than Time Home Fibre's pricing. All plans have symmetrical speed.

50M/50M - RM79/mth
100M/100M - RM99/mth
500M/500M - RM139/mth
1Gbps/1Gbps - RM199/mth


It is even more attractive than Time Fibre.

OLT/ONT equipment provider is by Calix who completed full acquisition of Ericsson Fiber Access Solutions.

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post Jul 7 2020, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jul 7 2020, 06:52 PM)
Yeah can try contacting Allo/City Broadband HQ at Cyberjaya to enquire about their service expansion to Ipoh.

1-300-38-8000

https://allo.my/contact-us/
There are already 4 or more ISPs servicing TNB Allo covered areas in Cyberjaya, and Jasin, Malacca at the moment as announced in the latest news:

Astro Broadband
City Broadband
DiGi
Maxis

The reference pricing is based on City Broadband's pricing model which is a subsidiary of TNB for all participating telcos in the open infra.

May I know this router can support mesh wifi modem or no t?

They are ON PAR if not even better than Time Home Fibre's pricing. All plans have symmetrical speed.

50M/50M - RM79/mth
100M/100M - RM99/mth
500M/500M - RM139/mth
1Gbps/1Gbps - RM199/mth
It is even more attractive than Time Fibre.

OLT/ONT equipment provider is by Calix who completed full acquisition of Ericsson Fiber Access Solutions.

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post Jul 7 2020, 11:51 PM

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May I know this router can support mesh wifi modem or not?
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jul 7 2020, 06:52 PM)

Yeah can try contacting Allo/City Broadband HQ at Cyberjaya to enquire about their service expansion to Ipoh.

1-300-38-8000

https://allo.my/contact-us/
There are already 4 or more ISPs servicing TNB Allo covered areas in Cyberjaya, and Jasin, Malacca at the moment as announced in the latest news:

Astro Broadband
City Broadband
DiGi
Maxis

The reference pricing is based on City Broadband's pricing model which is a subsidiary of TNB for all participating telcos in the open infra.

They are ON PAR if not even better than Time Home Fibre's pricing. All plans have symmetrical speed.

50M/50M - RM79/mth
100M/100M - RM99/mth
500M/500M - RM139/mth
1Gbps/1Gbps - RM199/mth
It is even more attractive than Time Fibre.

OLT/ONT equipment provider is by Calix who completed full acquisition of Ericsson Fiber Access Solutions.

https://imagehost.imageupload.net/2020/06/26/city.jpg 
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post Jul 8 2020, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Jul 7 2020, 11:51 PM)
May I know this router can support mesh wifi modem or not?
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Ah yes, I just read through this thread about City Broadband:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4324810

Here is what I discovered from users in Cyberjaya:

1) City Broadband uses an all in one router ONT supplied by Calix(formerly known as Ericsson Fiber Division)

2) You can opt to supply your own GPON transceiver stick by informing them the MAC ID to include in their greenlist. They allow this option.

There's one user who managed to supply his own GPON SFP+ transceiver and paired it with a Mikrotik CCR1036 to use the service.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=87747776

3) It is the FIRST ISP in Malaysia to use 3rd party public DNS servers pre-configured in their routers. Instead of maintaining their own DNS server, City Broadband uses Google DNS.

4) If you want to use your own 3rd party router, you can always disable the routing function of the ONT and put it as static bridge to only supply IP only to your own router.

5) They do not use PPPoE as authentication is made by equipment MAC ID? No VLAN involved which is great as it is similar to Time Home Fibre style? Not using PPPoE suggest they're IPoE based?

I'm not surprised that all the issues faced by TM and Time Fibre is improved and resolved by TNB Allo Fibre. They're Malaysia's newest open fibre network so everything is planned more carefully.

5) Ping to Singapore from Cyberjaya can get as low as 4ms.Local server ping rates as shown can go as low as 1ms.

6) By default users get CGNAT(carrier grade NAT) but you can request for public IP from your ISP.

7) The 1Gbps plan is also symmetrical unlike other ISPs such as Time Fibre and TM which can only offer at half rate.

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jul 8 2020, 09:27 PM)
Ah yes, I just read through this thread about City Broadband:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4324810

Here is what I discovered from users in Cyberjaya:

1) City Broadband uses an all in one router ONT supplied by Calix(formerly known as Ericsson Fiber Division)

2) You can opt to supply your own GPON transceiver stick by informing them the MAC ID to include in their greenlist. They allow this option.

There's one user who managed to supply his own GPON SFP+ transceiver and paired it with a Mikrotik CCR1036 to use the service.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=87747776

3) It is the FIRST ISP in Malaysia to use 3rd party public DNS servers pre-configured in their routers. Instead of maintaining their own DNS server, City Broadband uses Google DNS.

4) If you want to use your own 3rd party router, you can always disable the routing function of the ONT and put it as static bridge to only supply IP only to your own router.

5) They do not use PPPoE as authentication is made by equipment MAC ID? No VLAN involved which is great as it is similar to Time Home Fibre style? Not using PPPoE suggest they're IPoE based?

I'm not surprised that all the issues faced by TM and Time Fibre is improved and resolved by TNB Allo Fibre. They're Malaysia's newest open fibre network so everything is planned more carefully.

5) Ping to Singapore from Cyberjaya can get as low as 4ms.Local server ping rates as shown can go as low as 1ms.

6) By default users get CGNAT(carrier grade NAT) but you can request for public IP from your ISP.

7) The 1Gbps plan is also symmetrical unlike other ISPs such as Time Fibre and TM which can only offer at half rate.
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Too much professional word😅,quite cant understand⋯ so can I use their Calix modem and then using TpLink M4 for building the Mesh wifi system?

because from city broadband user opinon,Calix Wi-Fi not good enough compare with other modem, am I right?
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6) By default users get CGNAT(carrier grade NAT) but you can request for public IP from your ISP.

What is that mean ?
By default , give u private ip ?
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post Jul 9 2020, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Jul 9 2020, 09:49 AM)
Too much professional word😅,quite cant understand⋯ so can I use their Calix modem and then using TpLink M4 for building the Mesh wifi system?

because from city broadband user opinon,Calix Wi-Fi not good enough compare with other modem, am I right?
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Yes, you can. Just disable DHCP server, wireless and assign a fixed IP to the Calix router so that it becomes a bridge(modem) gateway. That will relay all the routing and wireless AP function to your 3rd party Mesh router instead.

They even allow to buy your own compatible ONT/GPON transceiver stick to power up your own enterprise router.

QUOTE(cba5566 @ Jul 9 2020, 01:02 PM)
6) By default users get CGNAT(carrier grade NAT) but you can request for public IP from your ISP.

What is that mean ?
By default , give u private ip ?
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Yes, by default they will give private IP. The reason is not because of conserving public IP addresses but also to help secure most subscribers from becoming zombified DDoS machines when getting attacked by viruses.

Major FTTH ISPs are also providing CGNAT(private IPs) by default, you can personally request for public IP if you have need for it.
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jul 9 2020, 03:00 PM)
Yes, you can. Just disable DHCP server, wireless and assign a fixed IP to the Calix router so that it becomes a bridge(modem) gateway. That will relay all the routing and wireless AP function to your 3rd party Mesh router instead.

They even allow to buy your own compatible ONT/GPON transceiver stick to power up your own enterprise router.
Yes, by default they will give private IP. The reason is not because of conserving public IP addresses but also to help secure most subscribers from becoming zombified DDoS machines when getting attacked by viruses.

Major FTTH ISPs are also providing CGNAT(private IPs) by default, you can personally request for public IP if you have need for it.
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I just ask city broadband dealer, he said 100mbps not enough for mesh wifi, should get the higher speed one, Is that true?
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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Jul 9 2020, 11:26 PM)
I just ask city broadband dealer, he said 100mbps not enough for mesh wifi, should get the higher speed one, Is that true?
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There is no such thing as minimum speed to support mesh wifi, just that it's wasted if you use a powerful router if used with a slower plan.

30M or 50M plans will also work with your mesh system.

Once you disable DHCP, turn off wireless and set a fix ip for your Calix ONT router, it becomes a dumb modem that relays all routing function to your 3rd party router acting only as a gateway.

He's just trying to upsell you with a higher end plan.Maybe they want to see if there's demand for higher end package plans before starting to offer the service in Ipoh.
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jul 9 2020, 11:51 PM)
There is no such thing as minimum speed to support mesh wifi, just that it's wasted if you use a powerful router if used with a slower plan.

30M or 50M plans will also work with your mesh system.

Once you disable DHCP, turn off wireless and set a fix ip for your Calix ONT router, it becomes a dumb modem that relays all routing function to your 3rd party router acting only as a gateway.

He's just trying to upsell you with a higher end plan.Maybe they want to see if there's demand for higher end package plans before starting to offer the service in Ipoh.
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TQ for your advise. I think will try city broadband 100mbps first, see WiFi good enough or not, If not I will buy a new router to use...

Beside that, the dealer inform me city broadband almost ready services in Menglembu, just wait Allo to announce actual date.
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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Jul 10 2020, 09:49 AM)
TQ for your advise. I think will try city broadband 100mbps first, see WiFi good enough or not, If not I will buy a new router to use...

Beside that, the dealer inform me city broadband almost ready services in Menglembu, just wait Allo to announce actual date.
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Great news! Hope it won't take long to come to my area(Ipoh Garden) biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ivanfwc @ Jul 10 2020, 11:56 AM)
Great news! Hope it won't take long to come to my area(Ipoh Garden)  biggrin.gif
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Unfortunately, the next target will extend to silibin,papan, botani and ampang, you may go to city broadband and leave down a message to them regrading Request demands from Ipoh garden (if can collect more people request from Ipoh garden will be great)
And also need to find out your area got unifi or not, If got, I think Allo won’t extend to your area
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City broadband is for high rise apartment , right ?
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QUOTE(Jasilu90 @ Jul 10 2020, 09:49 AM)
TQ for your advise. I think will try city broadband 100mbps first, see WiFi good enough or not, If not I will buy a new router to use...

Beside that, the dealer inform me city broadband almost ready services in Menglembu, just wait Allo to announce actual date.
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To be frank, if you're just subscribing to 100M plan, don't waste your money buying an expensive MESH system just to extend wireless coverage in your home. It's a pure waste. A 2.4GHz 40MHz channel WiFi with a few cheap extenders placed at blindspots around your home is more than enough.

Just days back I saw the Xiaomi 300Mbps Wireless extenders only costs below RM40 a unit.

I've also checked that the advanced Calix GigaCenter ONT router they supplied for the higher end package has a drawback of not being able to set bridge mode to pass on the routing function to your 3rd party router should you need to provide your own.

There are a few workaround methods for it.

1) You can disable the WiFi function on the ISP GigaCenter router itself, provide a static IP for your 3rd party router then place the your 3rd party router's IP on DMZ mode.

2) You can disable the WiFi function on the ISP GigaCenter router itself, disable the DHCP server in your 3rd party router/Mesh system settings turning it into a plain wireless AP mode.

3) Provide your own router and GPON transceiver stick with an appointed installer/technician to configure it by the hour rate or the lower end plans below 500M are given Calix GigaHubs ONT fibre modems to which allow bridge mode for partner ISPs to supply their own routers. Also Calix has compatible Mesh adapters to work specifically for the GigaCenter model.

The taller and bigger sized all-in-1 GigaCenter model is for the higher end plans which does not have bridge mode. So you need to use either Method 1 or 2 or supply your own router with SFP+ GPON stick.

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QUOTE(cba5566 @ Jul 10 2020, 12:18 PM)
City broadband is for high rise apartment , right ?
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For landed using fibre running on TNB(Tenaga) electricity poles.

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city broadband have its own network for fiber service?

ping 4ms to sg is incredible
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QUOTE(heLL_bOy @ Jul 10 2020, 01:25 PM)
city broadband have its own network for fiber service?

ping 4ms to sg is incredible
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Acquired by Tenaga(TNB) and renamed to Allo Technology as its telco division.

Local server ping as low as only 1ms. That is Cyberjaya users to a Cyberjaya based server using a 1Gbps symmetrical line.

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