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 TNB Allo Nationwide Open Fibre Expansion, CBJ,Malacca,Perak,Penang,Johor & Kedah

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post Mar 3 2021, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(wchsam92 @ Mar 3 2021, 02:35 PM)
I don't have Time experience, came from shytmix. Services so far so good. Almost 2 weeks since installation. As for P2P me personally don't use it, but a user above posted P2P results and it seems pretty good.
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Allo CBB and Maxis both uses NTT as its major upstream carrier provider(wholesale).

So their routing paths are similar.
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post Mar 3 2021, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(oimeng @ Mar 3 2021, 02:55 PM)
hi, anyone knows if taman cempaka ipoh already in service?
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Are the FDP boxes up on the poles and labelled? If labelled already can start registering your interests. You can find the contact details on the first page or Allo Facebook pages.
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post Mar 5 2021, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Mar 5 2021, 03:12 PM)
ntg wrong. tnb and telekom are from the same parent company. it makes no difference. profit still end up in the same pocket. its too expensive to build fiber in msia. only gov has the resources. other private companies only can pinjam the backbone like maxis celcom allo.
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If you're saying the same pockets of a circle of faces and major shareholders, there's truth to it.

Like ex-Maxis and ex-Axiata Group CEO Tan Sri Jamaluddin now can become chairman of QSR Brands chairman and board of director in Sunway.

TM's ex CEO Datuk Seri Shazalli Ramlyi can now become Boustead Holdings new group MD.
https://www.nst.com.my/business/2020/11/644...ousteads-new-md

It's always the same circle of faces and major stakeholders in almost every telco in Malaysia making musical chair moves changing seats.
PNB, EPF-KWSP, KWAP, Khazanah, Blackstone, financial/insurance investment funds inside all of them.

However for infra I don't agree. You might be confused between TNB and TM.
One is a power utility company the other is a telco.


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post Mar 11 2021, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(muhammadnajmi96 @ Mar 11 2021, 07:09 PM)
Hello there, i just want to know whether City Broadband in Cyberjaya has the same backbone as Ipoh etc. Since i noticed many user in Cyberjaya complaint many downtime for the connection.
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They use old Calix equipment in Cyberjaya during early days.

Recent newer places they using Huawei Universal PON equipment already. Also implemented VLAN to allow other ISPs to buy wholesale from them.
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post Mar 13 2021, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(apekpro96 @ Mar 12 2021, 11:18 AM)
hi, i need help , i have asked them to change from private to public ip address by email and they already did that,
but after that, i cant connect to internet, already reboot the router but problem still remain
anyone know what might cause that prob?
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Where is your location?

In newer areas where wholesale retail ISPs are allowed to operate, they will have to use VLAN to separate their traffics on Layer 3 approach for each ISP.

Noticed that some of you mentioned about DHCP IPoE allocation which doesn't required PPPoE account setup.

For those who are on this setup may I confirm that you're based in Klang Valley and Cyberjaya which uses this older method where Allo CBB is the only provider there?
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QUOTE(apekpro96 @ Mar 13 2021, 05:14 PM)
in Sungai petani,kedah bro,
been emailing them since yesterday but still dont know how to reply , before this i have reset the router because need to change wifi password and set up again, it worked just fine. now since  they managed to change to public ip, already 2 days, no more internet, should i  make a report to skmm?
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You got no local agent or sales office where you subscribed the internet from?
Just pay them a visit lah if you can't get things solved over the phone.

Where is the installer contact? Ask him for your connection details or WAN type protocol used: PPPoE or DHCP based IP.

Never heard of such thing in Perak or Malacca here with the bad support.


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QUOTE(Khooben0109 @ Mar 13 2021, 03:31 PM)
I wanna ask if can the port be full because some agent in FB says register before port full .But I saw 4 DP box along the street ,so 4*8 port will get 32 ports  but only 16 houses along the street.
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Using the psychology of fear to do sales. Bad ethics.

Your housing row got more than 32 houses a not?
In fact I'm sure they have already planned out to provide more than enough ports there at your place for future needs.
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QUOTE(Khooben0109 @ Mar 13 2021, 07:02 PM)
Oh I see. My housing row only got 16 house.That means I can still wait till end of the year because u**** air contract until year end😀. If terminate contract ,penalty for remaining months😭😭😭.
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16 houses? Maybe enough to reserve 2 ports per house already..
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QUOTE(Khooben0109 @ Mar 13 2021, 08:12 PM)
Haha lol 😂😂 2 ports per house for people who is too rich..last time I saw one forum saying one rich family uses 4 ports for each family member.
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Yes and some properties are rented to multi tenants. Each room tenant may want a line of his/her own so they pull separate lines(ports) for each room.

Possible with good planning and future sight.

Like Switzerland, law is each home is reserved with 4 ports (fibre strands). In Singapore, each home has 2 ports allocated during plan-outs.
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Bumping this thread.

So has Allo halted expansion in Perak already?

Seems quiet down already. They already moved on to other states now such as Kedah and Johor now?


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QUOTE(notyloki @ Mar 15 2021, 09:00 AM)
mine is NAT type 3
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NAT private IPs have their own advantages and disadvantages compared to public IPs.

If you don't need to host servers via DDNS, don't have CCTVs at home or require exposure directly to the internet, NAT can be more stable if implemented properly.

With public IP you can have a situation like TM where a random IP is assigned to you everytime you disconnect, it's your luck to get a good or bad one every time you reset your modem/power cycle it.

For private IP where they exit though a shared public gateway, the IP is always assigned a good one and managed by the ISP directly so it can provide more stable experience.

Also by hiding behind a NAT, security is also higher you're not directly exposed to outside unless you know what you're doing. Most regular users won't see much difference if they're just doing regular browsing, watching videos and downloading.


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post Mar 29 2021, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(Gaara92 @ Mar 29 2021, 05:24 PM)
Get a VPS and connect your network to it through VPN, I suggest using L2TP with IPsec as it is quite fast and does not using too much overhead in the packet. There you can port forward it your private address or port.
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L2TP/PPTP is highly throttled on Maxis network. When I connect using these 2 methods to VPN can only get no more than 4Mbps which is similar only to Streamyx speeds.

Not sure if Allo throttles them similarly?
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QUOTE(supergen3 @ Mar 29 2021, 07:10 PM)
Taman angsana, Kulim.
Allo started to hook up the FDP, but left them lying on the ground. Don't know why, but some FDP are mounted on the poles but the extra length of cabling are not wound as a service loop. some areas, the FDP are lying on the ground after cable hookup.

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Looks like bad handling and engagement of installation works there.

The kind of bad and lazy culture that keeps spreading in our country after a while no matter which business it is.
Starts off well, then slowly and surely the momentum slows down and becomes taken for granted until its abandoned.

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QUOTE(aniq8676 @ Apr 4 2021, 06:22 PM)
not sure if Allo needs to activate VLAN or not?

I am not mistaken, someone says that Allo doesn't need a vlan tag,

and I've also seen people say that the modem connection to the router uses "Dynamic Mode" and some also use "PPPoE Mode"  hmm.gif
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Depends on the service area and the type of technology used.

In the initial rollout and earlier areas such as Cyberjaya and Bangsar South(Kerinchi), their fiber optic lines were exclusively used by City Broadband which doesn't require VLAN switching. For Bangsar South, they used ETTH technology which brings fibre to the building and ethernet switches. Tenants in the business complex/building are wired up via LAN cabling with ViewQwest as the ISP.

The newer build-outs such as those in Malacca, Perak, Kedah, Johor and other states uses the same L3 wholesale level model similar to TM HSBB with participating retail service providers/ISPs sharing their infrastructure. There is no other way to separate the lines in a shared passive optical network unless you pull individual strands to each home via active P2P distribution. That is the reason they have to use VLAN switching. Even TIME has also started to use this methods because they are now selling wholesale bandwidth to other ISPs joining their network such as DiGi Home Fibre.
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QUOTE(aniq8676 @ Apr 10 2021, 04:48 PM)
Areas that are currently in planning/installation

Perak
Menglembu
Silibin
Papan
Sungai Rapat
Kinta
Tasek

Kedah
Mergong
Aman Jaya
Sungai Petani
Kulim
Kuala Ketil

Pulau Pinang
Seberang Jaya
Batu Maung
Jelutong

Johor
Kulai
Pasir Gudang
Masai
Cahaya Baru
Kota Puteri
Kota Tinggi

Negeri Sembilan
Port Dickson
Senawang

Selangor
Kuala Selangor
Bukit Sentosa
Sungai Besar
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From the list you can clearly see that TNB is not targetting CBDs and state capitals. Probably close-by suburbs and outskirt residential areas just outside the city limits.

Alor Setar, Georgetown/Bayan Baru, Ipoh, PJ/Shah Alam, Seremban and JB/Nusajaya not in the list.
Probably TM is already dominant in those areas with many of them covered well with their HSBB infra.
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QUOTE(aniq8676 @ Apr 20 2021, 05:24 PM)
Allo Broadband is also available in several areas in Alor Setar and Ipoh (another name is Kinta).
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Probably not the CBD core and city area itself. Adjacent housing suburbs outside the city area.

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QUOTE(oguraX @ Apr 24 2021, 06:53 AM)
So I need to wait for a few years+ again? sad  doh.gif

Allo's pricing is very tempting tho
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If it doesn't keep up with the expansion pace or keeps targeting low value/low demand suburban areas it's not going to survive.

Just like Google Fiber in US, the hype is to wake up the incumbent telcos such as AT&T, Verizon, Comcast, Centurylink, Frontier, Charter and TDS from their slumbers and get them moving with their fiber rollout expansions before they get kicked out of their protected markets.
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Apr 24 2021, 05:11 PM)
This mean, other ISP (Maxis, Celcom, Digi, ViewQuest, etc...) under Allo will get Symmetrical speed and no bufferblaot right?
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Just an excess of a few megabits, other than that everything such as the supplied router, international routes and data plans are similar.

The ISPs you mentioned Maxis, Celcom and DiGi standardizes all their packages pricing/speed across all networks: TM HSBB, TIME, Celcom Timur and TNB Allo.

Without the buffer bloat the most probably you can get an excess of 1-3Mbps difference which isn't much unless you can get your hands on a account without speed caps to use on your line.
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Apr 24 2021, 05:47 PM)
This mean.... Asymmetrical Speed on any Fiber Line??? oh phuck TM!
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The limits of GPON has always been asymmetrical. 2.4Gbps Down/1.2Gbps Up.

Despite Allo selling symmetrical 1GBps in real time conditions, rarely you can see uploads will ever reach close to download in reaching 1Gbps with consistency.

None of the Malaysian ISPs are selling commercial 10GBps symmetrical XGS-PON yet maybe under trial.

With overheads a GPON line will max out around 1.9Gbps Down and 950Mbps Up.
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QUOTE(supergen3 @ Apr 25 2021, 10:43 PM)
Big demand for skilled fiber optic technicians, job advertisement from allo city broadband FB page.

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The salary rates of RM1200-RM1500 compared to the latest average figure supplied by INDEED & Glassdoor for developed nations is dirt cheap.

INDEED
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Glassdoor
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Cable Splicing Specialist is about US$69k/year which is about US$5.75k/month.





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