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post Dec 4 2020, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(taf89 @ Dec 4 2020, 03:23 PM)
can`t decide between GMK Yuri or GMK Serika 2. both are nice but my wallet only can afford 1 set  doh.gif
any input from my fellow friends here? thanks smile.gif
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it's really up to you. just get the one you like more.

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post Dec 4 2020, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Dec 2 2020, 04:08 AM)
Just change to wireless. biggrin.gif

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many go wireless. i still like wired more lol

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post Dec 4 2020, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Dec 4 2020, 08:06 PM)
I decide wireless as sometimes I can use when screen is TV. smile.gif
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right; to each their own smile.gif

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post Dec 4 2020, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Dec 4 2020, 10:11 PM)
Does anyone know where can I test a Leopold in KL/Selangor? Went to a few stores recently, but all Logitech, Razer and Corsair. Even HyperX also in box, no display unit.
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you should try your luck at lyp. previously i saw some at gadgetzone, digital mall also.
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post Dec 4 2020, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Dec 4 2020, 10:31 PM)
Thanks! I'll give it a visit soon. Want to try first rather than order blindly like last time. laugh.gif
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right. if you have tried units from logitech, razer, and corsair, i think you will tell the differences immediately.

alternatively, you should try out varmilo or filco also, if you can find one on display. however, i think leopold has more values than varmilo the last time i checked. (leopold's pd edition have the thick 1.5mm double-shot pbt)
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post Dec 4 2020, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Dec 4 2020, 10:58 PM)
After try all the Logitech/Razer/Corsair, I can see why Filco is(or was) revered among the mkb community.

Surprisingly the majority of the gaming kb on display are using blue switches, so it was easier to compare with my blue switch filco.

I've heard good things about Varmilo, but I'm looking for the 1800 layout, which only Leopold has as far as Im aware.
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oh 1800 layout. afaik yes only leopold has it. good luck hunting for it smile.gif
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post Dec 4 2020, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Dec 4 2020, 11:18 PM)
Actually I still not get use to this Logitech mechanical keyboard. I think it is too slim, even though nicer look but I find my previous Corsair is much nicer to use.

Another reason probably due to I change the switch. I want something lower sound, so I pick GL Tactile this time.
Previously was Cherry MX Speed for Corsair RGB K70, Logitech closer to this should be GL Clicky but I didn't pick this.
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oh low profile tactile switches. i guess you just need time to get used to it. maybe some day i will try out low-pro switches also. not now. i still have plenty to play with in terms of linear options haha

cherry mx speed is a linear switch. it should be similar to gl-linear.



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post Dec 4 2020, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Dec 4 2020, 11:35 PM)
Oh ok, my mistake, thanks for correction.

Ya I need to get use to it, after nearly a day usage, now is much better but still not yet 100% get use to it. Haha!
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uh? it's fine; just have fun haha

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post Dec 4 2020, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(krayden @ Dec 4 2020, 11:25 PM)
Here got. Looks ok for the price but I doubt is Leopold level.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/epomak...y&term=Epomaker
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right. based on what i did to my gk64 (they are from the same manufacturer, if i'm not wrong), this will need tuning. at stock, they are not optimal.
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post Dec 5 2020, 12:16 AM

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a small update about switch film vendors.

1. tx, https://txkeyboard.com/ (2 types of thickness, the usual 0.15mm and the new 0.125mm)
2. kebo, https://kebo.store/products/switch-films
3. deskey, https://deskeys.io/
4. thicc, https://maartenwut.com/product/thicc-films/
5. kelowna, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=620073366941 (2 types; thickness: its double-layer HTV film is 0.15mm; the MDI film is 0.3mm, similar to deskey's, but relatively cheaper)
6. kbdfans, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=627414114157 (2 types; thickness: 0.15mm)
7. durock, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=633069338401 (double-layer HTV film is 0.15mm; similar to kelowna's)

the cheapest is still from kelowna, and they are really not bad.

in general, PC films are hard, hence producing crispier sound; HTV is slightly softer than PC; and finally, MDI films are the softest, hence producing dampened sound.
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post Dec 9 2020, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Dec 9 2020, 03:39 PM)
Hey Horns. Is this the mod you did on the C3 Equalz V2?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmOSSqpHAws&feature=youtu.be
I did that mod on my Cherry plate mounts and I love it, but the C3 is significantly better quality in terms of fit IMO. Did you feel this mod was actually necessary with the C3 or you did it just because you felt like it?

I want to know before I lube my C3 as the tape doesn't stick well if there's already lube on the plastic.
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yes, this is the mod. it's a precautionary mod to me, in case wire tips are still uneven after tuned.

right, always tape it first, then lube it.

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post Dec 9 2020, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Dec 9 2020, 08:33 PM)
Got it. Thanks.
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good and straight wires are rare these days. it's better to learn mods like this one to cope with it haha
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post Dec 10 2020, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Dec 10 2020, 12:08 PM)
I like this statement. I myself am not convinced the C3s need this treatment, so a precautionary mod indeed. I will probably do the same. Anyway, just realised I have a long time left to do it. My switches aren't even here yet.
Anyway, progress pics of my endgame. It actually looks like a keyboard case now lol. Still missing the plate, bottom cover and the 3 top layers that will make it a high profile case.
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Ports just sliiiightly sticking out of the case edge. I'm just stubborn and want to have the bevel as thin as I can make it.
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oh it's a split build. it looks nice indeed smile.gif

right, c3 stabs are ok tbh. but when you're like me, frequently swapping caps, you might wanna consider this, just in case.

unlike plate-mount stabs, fixing pcb-mount stabs are pita for soldered builds. gmk, epbt/kbdfans, etc., all are the same. it's a wear-and-tear kind of situation.

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post Dec 11 2020, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Dec 10 2020, 11:21 PM)
why is this? because pcb-mount needs to desolder all the switch for tuning?
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yes, unless the build is a plate-less.

it's not hard, but it's tedious. for builds with top plate and pcb-mount stabilizers, it's always better to make sure everything is ok first, before you start soldering switches.

it doesn't mean pcb-mount stabilizers are bad. it's just that more efforts are needed for plated builds in terms of maintenance and repairs.
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post Dec 11 2020, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Dec 11 2020, 02:20 AM)
yea, its not hard, its just pita.  icon_idea.gif

nothing in this hobby are bad, just pros n cons of each.
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exactly.

human-made designs are based on give-and-take in general. it's up to us to be creative, and find ways to deal with them.

that's why if spring weights are wrong to us, we swap them; switches are not smooth enough, we lube them; have own ideas about your build? design and make your own; so on and so forth.
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post Dec 11 2020, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Dec 11 2020, 12:23 PM)
Oh dang. I'm thinking if I should redesign my plates to allow stab removal now.

Nice to have but realistically would I ever need to remove my stabs? Rattly? I should have fixed that in the build process. Wire came out? Less likely to happen with C3 stabs, plus my 2nd layer plate actually sits on top of the wire which makes it almost impossible to pop out. Re-lube in X years? Well I'll probably want to relube the switches as well.

The only likely thing I can think off is accidental damage with liquid and food crumbs and the like. Something I have thus far avoided, so hopefully it's a non-issue.
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uh? i don't think it's necessary to do redesign, or for you to maintain stabilizers every once in a while.

i have previous builds with different pcb-mount stabs from common brands. all of them don't have the band-aid mod applied. yes, some have things like slight wire noise and all, mainly due to frequent key cap swapping, but they are still acceptable to me.

as for such accidents, well, just don't eat and drink in front of the board lol

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post Dec 11 2020, 04:44 PM

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it's been a while since i last used mda profile key caps.

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they are relatively comfortable to type on imo.

my preferred profile is still cherry.
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post Dec 12 2020, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 12 2020, 03:02 PM)
some interesting stuff to share
why qwerty.. why the keyboard is laid out as such
https://idealtech.com.my/2019/09/25/how-qwe...eyboard-layout/
later came out dvorak, which is supposedly better for keyboard for faster typing and less strain

So you'd need a dvorak keycap set (although not necessarily if your a don't see keycaps when you type, or you have blank keycaps).


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another read from a dvorak user, https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/17/18223384...peed-ergonomics

to each his own. i mean it's good to learn another skill. personally i can type on qwerty layout without looking at the board, and i don't need to type fast.

QUOTE(Ccw1998 @ Dec 12 2020, 08:04 PM)
I am new to mechanical keyboards. But I would like to find one with cherry red switches and my budget is RM400.

Any recommendations? And where can I get it?
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without more clues about layout and all, i think you should get a tecware phantom elite, and get cherry mx red to replace stock switches.

alternatively, you can also get soldered commercial options, such as those from ikbc with that budget. the better ones are above 400, like leopold, varmilo or filco.

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post Dec 12 2020, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Dec 12 2020, 11:11 PM)
Dang. I should ask PC Byte for a commission.
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lol!
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post Dec 13 2020, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Dec 13 2020, 07:57 AM)
I done lubing and modding my stabs yesterday. There really is a lack of photos of the Holee Bandaid mod out there so I thought I'd contribute mine.
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And in a previous post I mentioned one of the layers of my plate blocks the stab wire from popping out. Some pics.

This is with just the last (3rd) plate that is meant to rest on the PCB.
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And this is with the 2nd plate resting on the 3rd. Now part of the wire is covered.
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nice haha

previously i posted zf links to various stabilizer mods made by others, for cherry and costar style stabilizers, but yeah it's quite some time ago. with good-quality stabs, you just need to do few of them.

for c3 or jwk v2 stabs that have blockers to prevent wires from popping out, i think they solve this issue effectively. (it's based on my tests, by pulling tight key caps from space bar). the key things to do are to tune wires, apply slider band-aid, mod and lube them.



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