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TSBarricade
post May 31 2020, 04:57 PM, updated 6y ago

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The app is available to download and register.

https://raiz.com.my/

Three risk for you to choose from.


Fees:

RM1.50 per month for RM6000 and under
0.3% pa for above RM6000

https://apps.apple.com/my/app/raiz/id1501139628

This post has been edited by Barricade: May 31 2020, 07:31 PM
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post May 31 2020, 05:02 PM

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Dead market buy fund? Good luck to u
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post May 31 2020, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(Lucas0323 @ May 31 2020, 05:02 PM)
Dead market buy fund? Good luck to u
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post May 31 2020, 05:50 PM

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The concept is pretty interesting. They invest the difference in your spending. Example - you buy coffee at RM3.10, 90 cents will be invested. If RM 3.40, 60 cents will be invested.

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post May 31 2020, 06:03 PM

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Hm... avoid dude. Avoid.

The whole port will be Malaysia base.

Just avoid... unless they change to etf or what... mutual fund does not need robo.
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post May 31 2020, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ May 31 2020, 06:03 PM)
Hm... avoid dude. Avoid.

The whole port will be Malaysia base.

Just avoid... unless they change to etf or what... mutual fund does not need robo.
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I think the idea is to invest your pocket change, that’s all.
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post May 31 2020, 06:16 PM

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How is the Riaz platform function? Anyone can explain?
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post May 31 2020, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ May 31 2020, 06:07 PM)
I think the idea is to invest your pocket change, that’s all.
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post May 31 2020, 07:17 PM

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Literally makes no sense. Just cut out the middleman and invest in ASN yourself.
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post May 31 2020, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ May 31 2020, 06:03 PM)
Hm... avoid dude. Avoid.

The whole port will be Malaysia base.

Just avoid... unless they change to etf or what... mutual fund does not need robo.
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Agreed. Just avoid at all course.

QUOTE(Barricade @ May 31 2020, 06:07 PM)
I think the idea is to invest your pocket change, that’s all.
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If you want to invest your pocket change, keep until you have significant amount then invest into stashaway. Better option.
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post May 31 2020, 08:55 PM

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Already registered. Let’s see how it’s work
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post May 31 2020, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(Lucas0323 @ May 31 2020, 04:02 PM)
Dead market buy fund? Good luck to u
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post May 31 2020, 09:44 PM

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Dissapointing i would say shakehead.gif
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post May 31 2020, 10:17 PM

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Investing in pnb variable price fund, which doesnt make much sense but I wonder if the sales charge is removed and replaced by the annual fee.
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post May 31 2020, 10:21 PM

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How do Raiz make money?

Raiz is completely free to download. Once an account is opened, there are no fees on RM0 balances and after that we only charge RM1.50 per month for accounts with a balance under RM6,000 and 0.30% per year (charged monthly, computed daily), for accounts with a balance of RM6,000 and over.
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post May 31 2020, 10:26 PM

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0.30% per year consider high ?
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post May 31 2020, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Juan86 @ May 31 2020, 10:26 PM)
0.30% per year consider high ?
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Maybe on top of existing sales charge for those fund. Might as well invest in it yourself, then again i could be wrong, maybe the sales charge is no longer there or capped to a much lower value.

This pnb variable price fund, i wont even touch with a 10 feet pole.

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post May 31 2020, 10:32 PM

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Maybe it's a cheaper alternative to BIMB BEST:

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https://bimbinvestment.com.my/
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QUOTE(red streak @ May 31 2020, 08:17 PM)
Literally makes no sense. Just cut out the middleman and invest in ASN yourself.
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Nothing more needs to be said. 0.3% fee + sales charge for the unit trust + management fee taken by the funds company, you can save alot by putting the change in a big glass at home and then buy the stuff by yourself.
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QUOTE(Barricade @ May 31 2020, 04:57 PM)
The app is available to download and register.

https://raiz.com.my/

Three risk for you to choose from.
Fees:

RM1.50 per month for RM6000 and under
0.3% pa for above RM6000

https://apps.apple.com/my/app/raiz/id1501139628
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Never ever buy ASN variable funds. Their returns are not good. Avoid at all cost.
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post Jun 1 2020, 09:52 AM

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tried searching their website but can't pinpoint what funds are in their portfolio.

any kinds souls here who have signed up for the app wanna share the exact funds they invest in? preferably the 'aggressive' portfolio biggrin.gif

i see some forumers say they invest in ASN Variable Price Fund. so that's 100% in that fund?

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lolz at first I thought is kind of ewallet that help to invest spare change from every purchases....
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post Jun 1 2020, 10:36 AM

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Get yourself a piggy bank and keep the change. There you go, you get to save the fees and DIY your investment!
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QUOTE(encikbuta @ Jun 1 2020, 09:52 AM)
tried searching their website but can't pinpoint what funds are in their portfolio.

any kinds souls here who have signed up for the app wanna share the exact funds they invest in? preferably the 'aggressive' portfolio  biggrin.gif

i see some forumers say they invest in ASN Variable Price Fund. so that's 100% in that fund?
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All Raiz investment portfolios are investing in unit trust funds managed by Amanah Saham Nasional Berhad (ASNB), a wholly-owned subsidiary company of Permodalan Nasional Berhad (PNB).
https://raiz.com.my/blog/


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post Jun 1 2020, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 1 2020, 12:17 PM)
All Raiz investment portfolios are investing in unit trust funds managed by Amanah Saham Nasional Berhad (ASNB), a wholly-owned subsidiary company of Permodalan Nasional Berhad (PNB).
https://raiz.com.my/blog/
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Any advantage of investing via Raiz vs investing divertly with ASNB?
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 1 2020, 12:18 PM)
Any advantage of investing via Raiz vs investing divertly with ASNB?
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most probably I think the main advantage is helping one with limited amount of money to form a UT portfolio that are consisted of various funds

for that help, one has to fork out the "extra" charges .... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 1 2020, 01:15 PM)
most probably I think the main advantage is helping one with limited amount of money to form a UT portfolio that are consisted of various funds

for that help, one has to fork out the "extra" charges .... biggrin.gif
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The scope is only for ASX VP funds not ASX FP funds right? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 1 2020, 01:18 PM)
The scope is only for ASX VP funds not ASX FP funds right?  hmm.gif
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no idea, but most probably YES....due to FP limitations
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post Jun 1 2020, 01:55 PM

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Concept are interesting
But
<6k charges rm1.50 per month
All investment are in PNB

Most of those are not performing well, despite during good market.

If you are bumi
Straight go buy yourself

If you not bumi
Considering there's charges, might as well take time and efforts to learn more and venture into other form of investment
Or just wahed and stashaway

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post Jun 1 2020, 02:22 PM

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user posted image

taken from myasnb website

so ya. the ASN Equiti Tiga is.. ok la i guess
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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Jun 1 2020, 02:22 PM)
user posted image

taken from myasnb website

so ya. the ASN Equiti Tiga is.. ok la i guess
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Are my eyes not OK?
I see the prices for almost all the funds are on the downward trend (sliding down).
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 1 2020, 02:25 PM)
Are my eyes not OK?
I see the prices for almost all the funds are on the downward trend (sliding down).
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hahaha cannot be more than the God funds (ASB1 and 2)

so guys, move along, wahed and stashaway it is. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Jun 1 2020, 02:33 PM)
hahaha cannot be more than the God funds (ASB1 and 2)

so guys, move along, wahed and stashaway it is.  tongue.gif
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Got that huge difference or not? hmm.gif

It's like heaven and earth (or even hell) difference! dry.gif
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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Jun 1 2020, 02:22 PM)
user posted image

taken from myasnb website

so ya. the ASN Equiti Tiga is.. ok la i guess
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This is just the distribution rate. Ought to look at the total return % as well 😅😅
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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Jun 1 2020, 02:22 PM)
user posted image

taken from myasnb website

so ya. the ASN Equiti Tiga is.. ok la i guess
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ASN Equity 3 fund performance as at 29 Feb 2020
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 1 2020, 03:38 PM)
ASN Equity 3 fund performance as at 29 Feb 2020
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https://www.asnb.com.my/pdf/produk/FUNDFACT...ac/ASN%20E3.pdf
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wah..annualized only 4.3% for 10 years. put in fb better..haha
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post Jun 1 2020, 04:24 PM

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If only the Malaysia app work like Australia app.

https://raizinvest.com.au/
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Maybe jalal rashid can make some magic, nobody knows. This guy is suppose to be a game changer for pnb. Still, there is no info in the sales charge from the fund, is it waived or reduced signifcantly compared to investing in those fund by yourself.

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jun 1 2020, 05:00 PM)
Maybe jalal rashid can make some magic, nobody knows. This guy is suppose to be a game changer for pnb. Still, there is no info in the sales charge from the fund, is it waived or reduced signifcantly compared to investing in those fund by yourself.
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Who is he?
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 1 2020, 05:09 PM)
Who is he?
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New PNB ceo

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/spec...done-not-my-age
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jun 1 2020, 05:15 PM)
The Ex-BNM governor is what position in PNB?
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 1 2020, 05:16 PM)
The Ex-BNM governor is what position in PNB?
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chairman i guess. Not sure if it matters, since she is not from investment background
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Lol the previous government wrecked PNB nicely. Gonna give this a skip then.
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Was going to try it but reading thru here, seems like response is not very favorable. Maybe i wait and see
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I thought it can open access to AUS equity market and also BTC like Raiz AU.

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 1 2020, 06:43 PM)
I thought it can open access to AUS equity market and also BTC like Raiz AU.
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i was initially excited coz i thought the same! why can't we have nice things sad.gif
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This reminds me of a fairly successful app using the exact concept in the UK. It's called Moneybox and it also invests spare change for you.
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QUOTE(encikbuta @ Jun 1 2020, 09:11 PM)
i was initially excited coz i thought the same! why can't we have nice things  sad.gif
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Maybe after few months later, they realize that it was a mistake like Wahed MY. dry.gif
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any sign up bonuz for raiz?
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 1 2020, 11:38 PM)
Maybe after few months later, they realize that it was a mistake like Wahed MY.  dry.gif
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Why Wahed is a mistake?
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Why Wahed is a mistake?
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If it's not a mistake, why are they doing the realignment exercise?
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Will they add in more funds or wholly into ASN? 🤔

Was excited when they announced they will launch in msia with so much hoohaa in Aussie. Guess it kinda disappoints if its only investing in AAN.

Might as well just invest in FSM or Stashaway as some has said
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Why not ppl direct buy ASN?
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QUOTE(MNet @ Jun 2 2020, 10:59 PM)
Why not ppl direct buy ASN?
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using Raiz can start smaller amount. ASN require min RM150
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post Jun 3 2020, 11:12 AM

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I invest RM100 on Monday and today value RM100.43

Does it mean no sales charge from ASN?

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Taxes and Fees

Do I have to pay taxes on money I make through my Raiz account?
Yes, you need to pay taxes on all realised capital gains. You can also deduct any realised capital losses.

How do Raiz make money?
Raiz is completely free to download. Once an account is opened, there are no fees on RM0 balances and after that we only charge RM1.50 per month for accounts with a balance under RM6,000 and 0.30% per year (charged monthly, computed daily), for accounts with a balance of RM6,000 and over.

How and when does Raiz receive its fee?
Fees will be charged on the last market trading day of the month. For accounts with balance over RM6,000, Raiz will sell fractional unit from your account to cover the fee. For Accounts with balance under RM6,000, fees will be charged to your debit card nominated under your Funding Account

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https://raiz.com.my/support/
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QUOTE(MNet @ Jun 2 2020, 10:59 PM)
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Because always sold out blush.gif
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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Jun 3 2020, 11:51 AM)
Because always sold out  blush.gif
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ASN is always available.
But if you want ASNB fixed Price and you are non bumi then yes.
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another nay factor that just because opened account but never invest, keep receiving email and SMS to ask for funding shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(sybari @ Jun 3 2020, 08:36 AM)
using Raiz can start smaller amount. ASN require min RM150
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Taxes and Fees

Do I have to pay taxes on money I make through my Raiz account?
Yes, you need to pay taxes on all realised capital gains. You can also deduct any realised capital losses.

How do Raiz make money?
Raiz is completely free to download. Once an account is opened, there are no fees on RM0 balances and after that we only charge RM1.50 per month for accounts with a balance under RM6,000 and 0.30% per year (charged monthly, computed daily), for accounts with a balance of RM6,000 and over.

How and when does Raiz receive its fee?
Fees will be charged on the last market trading day of the month. For accounts with balance over RM6,000, Raiz will sell fractional unit from your account to cover the fee. For Accounts with balance under RM6,000, fees will be charged to your debit card nominated under your Funding Account

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https://raiz.com.my/support/
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sybari, look at the fees first only think about smaller amount or what. Anything below RM6,000 will charge RM1.50 per month. Let say u put in RM149? below ASN requirement, it will be 12% p.a. fees. You sure you did your calculation?
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 2 2020, 02:29 PM)
If it's not a mistake, why are they doing the realignment exercise?
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Bro, what alignment did they make? I haven't start with Wahed yet. So far now I put in a bit in Stashaway, FSM, and mainly at Opus Touch due to market conditions.
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QUOTE(funboy555 @ Jun 4 2020, 01:02 PM)
Bro, what alignment did they make? I haven't start with Wahed yet. So far now I put in a bit in Stashaway, FSM, and mainly at Opus Touch due to market conditions.
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This is their alignment:

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We will be upgrading your US Stocks portion of your portfolio with a fund with the following benefits*:

Diversification
Our new fund that we will be adding to your investment portfolio under the US Stocks asset class will provide a wider exposure to more than 200 of the largest shariah-compliant US companies from various industries whilst maintaining a low expense ratio.

Liquidity
Our new fund to replace the current ETF for the US Stocks that you have currently will provide greater liquidity due to the larger exchange where it is listed in. More liquidity means a more timely deposit allocation and withdrawals for you.
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Our clients with portfolios that has a US Stocks allocation*, the upgrading process will lead to the following temporary conditions until the week ending 1st week of June 2020:

US Stocks Allocation
Your portfolio will not be allocated the US Stocks portion. Your funds allocated to US Stocks will remain as cash until the portfolio upgrade has been completed.


US Stocks Price Movements
As your US Stocks holdings are temporarily held in cash there will be no price movements for your US Stocks portion of your portfolio. Other assets in your portfolio will not be affected and it will continue to be invested during this period.


Withdrawal and Deposits
Feel free to make deposits and withdrawals during this period we will process it as per normal.

Once the portfolio upgrade has been completed, you will see a new updated fund under your US stocks holding. Your funds will be automatically invested to match your risk portfolio allocation.


Should be completed by this Saturday (Malaysian time).

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This is their alignment:
Should be completed by Saturday (Malaysian time).
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Thanks Bro.

I thought they are "Robo Advisors". Shouldn't the robo do the auto allocation and why there is "Human" step in and do alignment?
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QUOTE(funboy555 @ Jun 4 2020, 01:19 PM)
Thanks Bro.

I thought they are "Robo Advisors". Shouldn't the robo do the auto allocation and why there is "Human" step in and do alignment?
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The robo advisor thing is on the allocation part.

The re-alignment is same like SAMY re-optimization.
They're changing the US stocks segment from MyETF-US50 to HLAL.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 3 2020, 11:45 AM)
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Taxes and Fees

Do I have to pay taxes on money I make through my Raiz account?
Yes, you need to pay taxes on all realised capital gains. You can also deduct any realised capital losses.

How do Raiz make money?
Raiz is completely free to download. Once an account is opened, there are no fees on RM0 balances and after that we only charge RM1.50 per month for accounts with a balance under RM6,000 and 0.30% per year (charged monthly, computed daily), for accounts with a balance of RM6,000 and over.

How and when does Raiz receive its fee?
Fees will be charged on the last market trading day of the month. For accounts with balance over RM6,000, Raiz will sell fractional unit from your account to cover the fee. For Accounts with balance under RM6,000, fees will be charged to your debit card nominated under your Funding Account

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https://raiz.com.my/support/
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I think they changed the faq cause I just looked at it, it says

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Im guessing that means no need pay tax? also just invested rm100 yesterday n got a 6.71% change in value today
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QUOTE(Kamikaze9393 @ Jun 5 2020, 01:07 PM)
I think they changed the faq cause I just looked at it, it says

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Im guessing that means no need pay tax? also just invested rm100 yesterday n got a 6.71% change in value today
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No tax for capital gain from equity market.
No tax for dividend received under single tier taxation.

6.71% return in 1 day? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 5 2020, 01:09 PM)
No tax for capital gain from equity market.
No tax for dividend received under single tier taxation.

6.71% return in 1 day?  hmm.gif
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tbh I dunno anything bout investments, I only intended to use this as a piggy bank. all I know I'm investing in amanah saham national funds.

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tbh I dunno anything bout investments, I only intended to use this as a piggy bank. all I know I'm investing in amanah saham national funds.

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Yup I just put in 5.9k today bringing my investment to RM6k

My return is the same as yours.

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QUOTE(Kamikaze9393 @ Jun 5 2020, 01:18 PM)
tbh I dunno anything bout investments, I only intended to use this as a piggy bank. all I know I'm investing in amanah saham national funds.

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Is this into ASN EQUITY 3 (Variable Price)?
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Looks tempting....
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 5 2020, 01:35 PM)
Is this into ASN EQUITY 3 (Variable Price)?
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According to app its 100% ASN Imbang 2
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According to app its 100% ASN Imbang 2
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Thanks!

I just want to know how's the number being derived from.

Based on ASN VP price from The Star Online: https://www.thestar.com.my/business/unit-trust?d=04-06-2020

Price for ASN Imbang 2 is below:

2/6: 0.8788
3/6: 0.8855
4/6: 0.8913

Return between 4/6 and 3/6 is just 0.65%
Return between 2/6 and 3/6 is 0.76%
Return between 2/6 and 4/6 is 1.42%

Interesting, where does the 6.71% come from? blink.gif

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 5 2020, 02:27 PM)
Thanks!

I just want to know how's the number being derived from.

Based on ASN VP price from The Star Online: https://www.thestar.com.my/business/unit-trust?d=04-06-2020

Price for ASN Imbang 2 is below:

2/6: 0.8788
3/6: 0.8855
4/6: 0.8913

Return between 4/6 and 3/6 is just 0.65%
Return between 2/6 and 3/6 is 0.76%
Return between 2/6 and 4/6 is 1.42%

Interesting, where does the 6.71% come from?  blink.gif
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in the app there's a 'view statement' section but its empty . I'm guessing end of month they'll give breakdown.
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it is better to buy from ASNB apps directly if u already have account?
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Buying directly with ASNB only - there's a sales charge of 2%. There's also annual management fees of 1% p.a. In terms of fees, I think Raiz is cheaper
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Its actually looks like its cheaper to buy ASNB funds via Raiz, esp if you have more than 6k. I have the ASNB app, but the fees are still very significant. For example, if you want to invest in the more conservative ASNB Sara funds, there is a sales charge of 1.5% for each transaction and an annual management fee of 1%. If you invested 6k as a lump sum at the start of the year, you'll give away a total of 2.5% of that 6k by the end of the year.

Raiz appears to only have an annual management fee of just 0.3% and no sales charges. So it looks like a steal! No switching fees also.

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Buying directly with ASNB only - there's a sales charge of 2%. There's also annual management fees of 1% p.a. In terms of fees, I think Raiz is cheaper
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Its actually looks like its cheaper to buy ASNB funds via Raiz, esp if you have more than 6k. I have the ASNB app, but the fees are still very significant. For example, if you want to invest in the more conservative ASNB Sara funds, there is a sales charge of 1.5% for each transaction and an annual management fee of 1%. If you invested 6k as a lump sum at the start of the year, you'll give away a total of 2.5% of that 6k by the end of the year.

Raiz appears to only have an annual management fee of just 0.3% and no sales charges. So it looks like a steal! No switching fees also.
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Ehh, Raiz no need to pay the sales charge meh? If Raiz is paying and not charging us, then not easy for Raiz to earn
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Ehh, Raiz no need to pay the sales charge meh? If Raiz is paying and not charging us, then not easy for Raiz to earn
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I dont see the sales charges in the website so i assumed don't have to pay. After all, the app is a JV with PNB as well.

Hopefully someone who has used the app can enlighten us.
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Jun 6 2020, 11:16 AM)
I dont see the sales charges in the website so i assumed don't have to pay. After all, the app is a JV with PNB as well.

Hopefully someone who has used the app can enlighten us.
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No service charge. No withdrawal fee. Straight to the point RM1.50 fee per month below 6k and 0.3% per annum above 6k

Also withdrawal takes few days so there could be difference in the final withdrawal amount compared to the value you see in the app on the day you withdraw
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QUOTE(Barricade @ Jun 6 2020, 11:27 AM)
No service charge. No withdrawal fee. Straight to the point RM1.50 fee per month below 6k and 0.3% per annum above 6k

Also withdrawal takes few days so there could be difference in the final withdrawal amount compared to the value you see in the app on the day you withdraw
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In that case, i might sell my current holdings in ASNB and put it here instead
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will this Raiz app runaway after they received significant amount? then whatever investment will gone
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will this Raiz app runaway after they received significant amount? then whatever investment will gone
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This website/app, operated by Raiz Malaysia Sdn Bhd (Company No.: 201801021108) (1283127–W ), is licensed by the Securities Commission Malaysia (License eCMSL/A0363/2020).

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I think they changed the faq cause I just looked at it, it says

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Im guessing that means no need pay tax? also just invested rm100 yesterday n got a 6.71% change in value today
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I got this response after asking them many rounds of questions haha. Their first response was got tax then I went Nani?! How you wanna compete then with the other roboadvisors, plus your offerings is ONLY ASNB. They must have scrambled to get their advisory people to give a proper answer haha.

It really does look however that there are no other hidden fees involved. Would really like to hear the rest because I have 6k ready to invest & I believe ASNB will have second life with this new govt in place + economic stimulus.

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Jun 6 2020, 11:27 AM)
No service charge. No withdrawal fee. Straight to the point RM1.50 fee per month below 6k and 0.3% per annum above 6k

Also withdrawal takes few days so there could be difference in the final withdrawal amount compared to the value you see in the app on the day you withdraw
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How about sales charge?
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Jun 6 2020, 11:16 AM)
I dont see the sales charges in the website so i assumed don't have to pay. After all, the app is a JV with PNB as well.

Hopefully someone who has used the app can enlighten us.
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QUOTE(Barricade @ Jun 6 2020, 11:27 AM)
No service charge. No withdrawal fee. Straight to the point RM1.50 fee per month below 6k and 0.3% per annum above 6k

Also withdrawal takes few days so there could be difference in the final withdrawal amount compared to the value you see in the app on the day you withdraw
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No sales charges
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Seems like no sales charge etc. Thanks for all the answers
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Seems like no sales charge etc. Thanks for all the answers
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Can confirm too; this response from Raiz after I keep prodding them for an answer.

Rest assured that the only fees our users will be charge are the account fees at the end of the month, there is no deposit, sales, or withdrawal charge whatsoever. This is what makes Raiz beginner-friendly, we will handle most of the formalities and cost making it easy to invest for our users.

Account got verified this morning, made a request for deposit of RM100 & they already accepted it. Now to see turnaround in investing it. Looks good, 6K dump ahoy. I had an extremely unpleasant & embarrassing experience going to the bank to buy ASNB before. The bank clerk who attended to me did not even put in any effort to enlighten carefully the steps required to get started with ASNB; she was just contented to making me frustrated so that she doesn't wanna file the paperwork. mad.gif

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I emailed them to confirm their fees and what ASNB funds they invest in. Here's their response

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Seems like a steal to me. I'm going to redeem my current ASNB VP holdings sometime this week and put them in here instead.
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No sales fee/charge is a best boost for Raiz platform.

If they offer ASNB FP too, that'll will be heaven!

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Can confirm too; this response from Raiz after I keep prodding them for an answer.

Rest assured that the only fees our users will be charge are the account fees at the end of the month, there is no deposit, sales, or withdrawal charge whatsoever. This is what makes Raiz beginner-friendly, we will handle most of the formalities and cost making it easy to invest for our users.

Account got verified this morning, made a request for deposit of RM100 & they already accepted it. Now to see turnaround in investing it. Looks good, 6K dump ahoy. I had an extremely unpleasant & embarrassing experience going to the bank to buy ASNB before. The bank clerk who attended to me did not even put in any effort to enlighten carefully the steps required to get started with ASNB; she was just contented to making me frustrated so that she doesn't wanna file the paperwork.  mad.gif
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Thanks. Wow, the clerk so lazy. She should be trying to sell to you the funds. Sorry for your bad experience.

QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Jun 9 2020, 02:05 PM)
I emailed them to confirm their fees and what ASNB funds they invest in. Here's their response

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Seems like a steal to me. I'm going to redeem my current ASNB VP holdings sometime this week and put them in here instead.
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Good to have black and white from them

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Thanks. Wow, the clerk so lazy. She should be trying to sell to you the funds. Sorry for your bad experience.
Good to have black and white from them
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I gather because my 1st attempt was trying to buy the limited quantity ASM funds. I'm a self-taught noob, don't know cannot open account without buying units. So I said okay lo, how about buying equity funds? Can you recommend how to get started? She's like eh adik pergi baca sendiri la. Ini nak beli ke tak, bukan untuk Q&A. I got fed-up & left LOL.

The wealth management industry in Malaysia is super-ripe for disruption to take this unpleasant experiences out of the way. BTW, i dumped RM6k in already. Let's see returns after 1 month.

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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Jun 9 2020, 02:05 PM)
I emailed them to confirm their fees and what ASNB funds they invest in. Here's their response

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Seems like a steal to me. I'm going to redeem my current ASNB VP holdings sometime this week and put them in here instead.
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How does the fee compare to if we buy directly from ASN?
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How does the fee compare to if we buy directly from ASN?
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It is much cheaper via Raiz. If you tried to buy from ASNB directly, you'll incur a sales charge and a higher annual management fee. For example, here's the fund fact sheet for ASN Sara 1, one of the funds Raiz invests in.

This fund has a Sales Charge of 3.5% and an annual management fee of 1% p.a. Right off the start, you'll be losing about 4.5% each time you buy units. Even if you bought through the ASNB app, it's still has a Sales Charge of 1.5%.

Raiz mentions no sales charges and a very low management fee of 0.3%p.a if you invest more than 6k. Which is what I'm going to do after redeeming my current holdings



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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Jun 11 2020, 08:08 PM)
It is much cheaper via Raiz. If you tried to buy from ASNB directly, you'll incur a sales charge and a higher annual management fee. For example, here's the fund fact sheet for ASN Sara 1, one of the funds Raiz invests in.

This fund has a Sales Charge of 3.5% and an annual management fee of 1% p.a. Right off the start, you'll be losing about 4.5% each time you buy units. Even if you bought through the ASNB app, it's still has a Sales Charge of 1.5%.

Raiz mentions no sales charges and a very low management fee of 0.3%p.a if you invest more than 6k. Which is what I'm going to do after redeeming my current holdings
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I'm confused! confused.gif

By buying from Raiz, there's no need to pay an annual management fee of 1% p.a for the said fund?

I thought the annual management fee s accrued daily and reflected in the fund daily published fund price.

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 11 2020, 08:17 PM)
I'm confused!  :confused:

By buying from Raiz, there's no need to pay an annual management fee of 1% p.a for the said fund?

I thought the annual management fee s accrued daily and reflected in the fund daily published fund price.
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That's what it seems to say. No where on the their Agreements did it say it will charge anything other than the 0.3%p.a.

Also, i think the funds daily price matters less here since we won't be buying the units directly.

Still, even if the 1% is not waived, I'll still put in Raiz due to the lack the high of sales charges you would incur if you bought units directly
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 11 2020, 08:17 PM)
I'm confused!  confused.gif

By buying from Raiz, there's no need to pay an annual management fee of 1% p.a for the said fund?

I thought the annual management fee s accrued daily and reflected in the fund daily published fund price.
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Believe that to be the case. Raiz is investing on your behalf as an advisor; they absorb whatever fees ASNB would levy traditionally on any prospective buyer. The difference here I believe as to how Raiz can afford to charge such a low management fee (which I suspect for now is predatory to win the market) is because they have a JV through with PNB. This collaboration of technology owner directly with the funds owner allows for a removal of some element of costs that could be attributable to digital optimisation of processes. Who knows (or a sifu can enlighten); maybe the reason why all this while the costs are super high have been due to inefficient practices of fund management.
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Jun 9 2020, 02:05 PM)
I emailed them to confirm their fees and what ASNB funds they invest in. Here's their response

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Seems like a steal to me. I'm going to redeem my current ASNB VP holdings sometime this week and put them in here instead.
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I have ASN sara, honestly, the performance doesn't look good sweat.gif
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jun 11 2020, 08:45 PM)
I have ASN sara, honestly, the performance doesn't look good  sweat.gif
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So far the funds seem to be doing ok for me.

I invested about 5k since Jan and made a profit of around RM50. If it weren't for the sales charges, could have doubled my returns
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So far the funds seem to be doing ok for me.

I invested about 5k since Jan and made a profit of around RM50. If it weren't for the sales charges, could have doubled my returns
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QUOTE(frostbyte13 @ Jun 11 2020, 03:53 PM)
I gather because my 1st attempt was trying to buy the limited quantity ASM funds. I'm a self-taught noob, don't know cannot open account without buying units. So I said okay lo, how about buying equity funds? Can you recommend how to get started? She's like eh adik pergi baca sendiri la. Ini nak beli ke tak, bukan untuk Q&A. I got fed-up & left LOL.

The wealth management industry in Malaysia is super-ripe for disruption to take this unpleasant experiences out of the way. BTW, i dumped RM6k in already. Let's see returns after 1 month.
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Bad mentality by the clerk. Its her duty to help customers especially when customer wants to buy. Glad you left
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Bad mentality by the clerk. Its her duty to help customers especially when customer wants to buy. Glad you left
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Of course, buying from Raiz is cheaper; lower annual management fee of just 0.3% pa compared to buying directly from PNB that needs to fork out 1% pa.

Don't quote me. I didn't open any account with Raiz.
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 11 2020, 08:17 PM)
I'm confused!  confused.gif

By buying from Raiz, there's no need to pay an annual management fee of 1% p.a for the said fund?

I thought the annual management fee s accrued daily and reflected in the fund daily published fund price.
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Can someone enlighten me on this as well? Are you sure the 1% p.a. is waived? Because the management fee should be accrued daily like what GrumpyNooby said right?

In that case, isn't it paying 1.3% management fee?
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QUOTE(funboy555 @ Jun 15 2020, 05:03 PM)
Can someone enlighten me on this as well? Are you sure the 1% p.a. is waived? Because the management fee should be accrued daily like what GrumpyNooby said right?

In that case, isn't it paying 1.3% management fee?
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Please enlighten me too, since I'm also just see alot of bad comment before this. But if really a alternative for stashaway I will prepare it as well.
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QUOTE(funboy555 @ Jun 15 2020, 04:03 PM)
Can someone enlighten me on this as well? Are you sure the 1% p.a. is waived? Because the management fee should be accrued daily like what GrumpyNooby said right?

In that case, isn't it paying 1.3% management fee?
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QUOTE(XHunTerx123 @ Jun 15 2020, 04:59 PM)
Please enlighten me too, since I'm also just see alot of bad comment before this. But if really a alternative for stashaway I will prepare it as well.
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QUOTE(frostbyte13 @ Jun 11 2020, 08:33 PM)
Believe that to be the case. Raiz is investing on your behalf as an advisor; they absorb whatever fees ASNB would levy traditionally on any prospective buyer. The difference here I believe as to how Raiz can afford to charge such a low management fee (which I suspect for now is predatory to win the market) is because they have a JV through with PNB. This collaboration of technology owner directly with the funds owner allows for a removal of some element of costs that could be attributable to digital optimisation of processes. Who knows (or a sifu can enlighten); maybe the reason why all this while the costs are super high have been due to inefficient practices of fund management.
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my take is....

Account Fee payable is 0.30% per annum of the Raiz Investment Account
This Account Fee is to cover the cost of administering your Raiz Investment Account.

your Raiz investment account portfolio consisted of various ASNB funds

The mgmt fees of 1% is to manage the holdings inside each ASNB fund...charged by ASN

just like for example...if subscribe to FSM conservative portfolio will have 0% sales charge but will incur Portfolio Management Fee 0.50% per annum, charged on a quarterly basis...this Portfolio Management Fee is charged by FSM for the mgmt of your portfolio

inside the conservative managed portfolio consisted of many funds...the mgmt fees of these individual fund are charge by the individual FHs for the management of those funds and the price has already being reflected in the daily NAVs
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LOL i've been found out i guess? no la not a sifu, also learning everyday via experimenting. anyways guys got any way to easily track daily ASNS1 & ASNE3 funds prices? Already negative right off the bat with 2% loss lol. I sincerely hope with tracking down the price history its due to unit price sliding & not sales charge being hidden xD
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I do register today and try and see, but seem like only have Maybank Debit Card available. Is that Direct Debit or they suppose have TAC for each transaction? I only worried if my Debit Card exposed to hacker or what.
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QUOTE(XHunTerx123 @ Jun 16 2020, 10:07 AM)
I do register today and try and see, but seem like only have Maybank Debit Card available. Is that Direct Debit or they suppose have TAC for each transaction? I only worried if my Debit Card exposed to hacker or what.
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Direct Debit, no TAC
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LOL i've been found out i guess? no la not a sifu, also learning everyday via experimenting. anyways guys got any way to easily track daily ASNS1 & ASNE3 funds prices? Already negative right off the bat with 2% loss lol. I sincerely hope with tracking down the price history its due to unit price sliding & not sales charge being hidden xD
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I still think it is charge 1.3% p.a. because the valuation price is already factored in the accrued charges and published to public, unless they say they rebate and refund it back to our account. What's the point of paying 0.3% additional p.a.? unless it is for short term hit and run purpose which you dont want to pay any sales charge.
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Lol not even <2 weeks in, already bleeding 5% NAV. PNB unit prices are that bad ah? If it's this bad I'm gonna exit now & just reinvest into other Roboadvisors lol
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Lol not even <2 weeks in, already bleeding 5% NAV. PNB unit prices are that bad ah? If it's this bad I'm gonna exit now & just reinvest into other Roboadvisors lol
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the FBM KLCI dropped about 4% - 5% in the last 2 weeks. I guess that's why.
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confirm tak ada
i call them last week ask about referral system - they say no referral system for now
ask them can i maintain 3 different portfolio - they say now is early phase and system still improving only 1 portfolio - i put RM300 inside Aggressive to test test
ask them when can improve - future, no timeline

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confirm tak ada
i call them last week ask about referral system - they say no referral system for now
ask them can i maintain 3 different portfolio - they say now is early phase and system still improving only 1 portfolio - i put RM300 inside Aggressive to test test
ask them when can improve - future, no timeline

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Just put in RM 6k into the app in a Conservative Portfolio which is the closest thing I had before this. 80% in Sara 1 and 20% in Equity 3.

Made RM 1.29 so far and will see where this app goes about a month from now
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Just put in RM 6k into the app in a Conservative Portfolio which is the closest thing I had before this. 80% in Sara 1 and 20% in Equity 3.

Made RM 1.29 so far and will see where this app goes about a month from now
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i sohai put in aggressive sudah hilang -0.12% (-RM0.36)
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Got question to ask, is that no matter how much amount in profile, it will keep deduct RM1.50 for every month below RM6k correct?
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Got question to ask, is that no matter how much amount in profile, it will keep deduct RM1.50 for every month below RM6k correct?
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Got question to ask, is that no matter how much amount in profile, it will keep deduct RM1.50 for every month below RM6k correct?
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I put in only RM300 to just test test i guess my mgmt fee will be really expensive as they gonna deduct RM1.50
Thinking of switching to a lower risk portfolio and dump more money then after 1 year come back see result

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I put in only RM300 to just test test i guess my mgmt fee will be really expensive as they gonna deduct RM1.50
Thinking of switching to a lower risk portfolio and dump more money then after 1 year come back see result
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hmm.gif 1.5 out of 300 = 0.5%pm...
1 yr is about 6%pa....
will yr fund generate >6%pa?
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hmm.gif 1.5 out of 300 = 0.5%pm...
1 yr is about 6%pa....
will yr fund generate >6%pa?
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just test test water ma
as off today my fund shrink again RM300 starting now only left with RM298 (1 week performance)
then i go in change portfolio from Aggressive to Conservative as off 10 mins ago
their system really need to improve to allow multi portfolio ma so i can maintain all 3 then try try see which one better

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I sold some today to take a gauge on how long does it take for funds to reach bank account.

Sold 23.06.2020
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I sold some today to take a gauge on how long does it take for funds to reach bank account.

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Believe that to be the case. Raiz is investing on your behalf as an advisor; they absorb whatever fees ASNB would levy traditionally on any prospective buyer. The difference here I believe as to how Raiz can afford to charge such a low management fee (which I suspect for now is predatory to win the market) is because they have a JV through with PNB. This collaboration of technology owner directly with the funds owner allows for a removal of some element of costs that could be attributable to digital optimisation of processes. Who knows (or a sifu can enlighten); maybe the reason why all this while the costs are super high have been due to inefficient practices of fund management.
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Raiz Malaysia is using Special Purpose Vehicle for getting more Malaysian to invest PNB funds via Instreet Investment Limited based in Australia to run their robo investing. Low management fee is due to agreement being signed with PNB with them which is nothing as their main goal is to raise capital to shore up their bonds portfolio which actually investing fixed money instruments like PNB,etc which usually give a returns between 1-8%(market dependant) and cutting down on actual sales management fees hence their predatory strategy to win the markets at the moment.

The reason why super high management is usually imposed is due to market conditions which have inflated when the market is on hawkish and bullish run.

Raiz is good for diversification on smaller and stable investment on the long term more for 3 to 5 yrs gain on smaller portfolio.

It was previously callled Acorn before it was listed in ASX hence the name change to fit in their marketing for the Strawberry generation.

Portfolio diversification would be difficult due to regulatory and compliance laws as it is based in Malaysia. Will be interesting if their are gonna JV with other portfolios like Principal, Eastpring or Amundi Malaysia.
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Raiz Malaysia is using Special Purpose Vehicle for getting more Malaysian to invest PNB funds via Instreet Investment Limited based in Australia to run their robo investing. Low management fee is due to agreement being signed with PNB with them which is nothing as their main goal is to raise capital to shore up their bonds portfolio which actually investing fixed money instruments like PNB,etc which usually give a returns between 1-8%(market dependant) and cutting down on actual sales management fees hence their predatory strategy to win the markets at the moment.

The reason why super high management is usually imposed is due to market conditions which have inflated when the market is on hawkish and bullish run.

Raiz is good for diversification on smaller and stable investment on the long term more for 3 to 5 yrs gain on smaller portfolio.

It was previously callled Acorn before it was listed in ASX hence the name change to fit in their marketing for the Strawberry generation.

Portfolio diversification would be difficult due to regulatory and compliance laws as it is based in Malaysia. Will be interesting if their are gonna JV with other portfolios like Principal, Eastpring or Amundi Malaysia.
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Raiz Invest Ltd.'s joint venture subsidiary Raiz Malaysia Sdn. Bhd. has secured a digital investment management license from the Securities Commission Malaysia.

Following the grant of the license, the Australian financial services company will be able to market its products in the country.

The regulatory approval marked the completion of Raiz Invest's joint venture agreement with Jewel Digital Ventures Sdn. Bhd., a wholly owned subsidiary of Malaysian asset manager PNB Equity Resource Corp. Sdn. Bhd.

By mid-June, Jewel Digital Ventures is expected to complete its share purchase in Raiz Malaysia for 7.2 million Malaysian ringgit, or 30% of the joint venture. The remaining 70% will be owned by Raiz.
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From the apps can we see how many unit and what price we bought the ASN fund?
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From the apps can we see how many unit and what price we bought the ASN fund?
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No apparently. I can only see the rough percentage of which fund I have in my portfolio and value. Can't see the NAV or number of units
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Its same issue like wahed not transparent at all on the unit we hold
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Its same issue like wahed not transparent at all on the unit we hold
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Yes its important.
Else how do u know whether the fluctuation is correct or not
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Yes its important.
Else how do u know whether the fluctuation is correct or not
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right on, else its just basically handing money to someone and hope they tell you it increased...
supposed most people just testing it out then
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When I press at Account value, it shows my total unit X current market value of the UT. Surely it would be great to show daily movement of the UT price
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QUOTE(thecurious @ Jun 29 2020, 09:36 PM)
right on, else its just basically handing money to someone and hope they tell you it increased...
supposed most people just testing it out then
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QUOTE(extinct_83 @ Jun 30 2020, 11:09 AM)
When I press at Account value, it shows my total unit X current market value of the UT. Surely it would be great to show daily movement of the UT price
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Just discovered this. Apparently, it does tell you how many units, value and UT price over time. Didn't realise i had to tap into the name of fund to see this info

Below is my holdings in their conservative portfolio. I have about 6k invested.

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This Robo only can funding using maybank acc?
Can use maybank MAE to funding?
Feel lazy go to Maybank to open the savings acc just bcoz wanna test this Robo.
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This Robo only can funding using maybank acc?
Can use maybank MAE to funding?
Feel lazy go to Maybank to open the savings acc just bcoz wanna test this Robo.
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cannot cause need tie debit card
-----------additional comment--------------
so far i have throw money inside, withdraw money out and i would say slow la
UT always slow la
deposit money is like immediate they will potong your account
but till the money actually get invested is like up to 3 to 4 days le.. sometimes 5 days - really dont know why since i am still new
i also go try switch portfolio and that itself take 7 to 8 days
the only thing i yet to see now is their charges of RM1.50 or their statement
the part on cannot see the number of unit own is not true, we can see it
Go to "today", performance details, go to the bottom can see 2 "dots", scroll to right, then hit the fund name, then again go to the bottom can see 2 dots then scroll to right
you will see shares own, holding value, todays price
i think is very transparent

-------question------------
here in Raiz regardless of amount, number of times you put money in take money out, they charge a flat 0.3% / RM1.50 which ever higher
if we buy this UT from myASNB app, what is their charges?
i dont have ASNB at all



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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 9 2020, 11:08 AM)
cannot cause need tie debit card
-----------additional comment--------------
so far i have throw money inside, withdraw money out and i would say slow la
UT always slow la
deposit money is like immediate they will potong your account
but till the money actually get invested is like up to 3 to 4 days le.. sometimes 5 days - really dont know why since i am still new
i also go try switch portfolio and that itself take 7 to 8 days
the only thing i yet to see now is their charges of RM1.50 or their statement
the part on cannot see the number of unit own is not true, we can see it
Go to "today", performance details, go to the bottom can see 2 "dots", scroll to right, then hit the fund name, then again go to the bottom can see 2 dots then scroll to right
you will see shares own, holding value, todays price
i think is very transparent

-------question------------
here in Raiz regardless of amount, number of times you put money in take money out, they charge a flat 0.3% / RM1.50 which ever higher
if we buy this UT from myASNB app, what is their charges?
i dont have ASNB at all
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 9 2020, 11:08 AM)
cannot cause need tie debit card
-----------additional comment--------------
so far i have throw money inside, withdraw money out and i would say slow la
UT always slow la
deposit money is like immediate they will potong your account
but till the money actually get invested is like up to 3 to 4 days le.. sometimes 5 days - really dont know why since i am still new
i also go try switch portfolio and that itself take 7 to 8 days
the only thing i yet to see now is their charges of RM1.50 or their statement
the part on cannot see the number of unit own is not true, we can see it
Go to "today", performance details, go to the bottom can see 2 "dots", scroll to right, then hit the fund name, then again go to the bottom can see 2 dots then scroll to right
you will see shares own, holding value, todays price
i think is very transparent

-------question------------
here in Raiz regardless of amount, number of times you put money in take money out, they charge a flat 0.3% / RM1.50 which ever higher
if we buy this UT from myASNB app, what is their charges?
i dont have ASNB at all
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If you want fast settlement, I think you can explore Opus Touch. So far they settle back to your account at a T+1 manner. But they only have Bond Funds and Money Market Funds in the platforms, if you are looking for high risk investment, then have to consider Stashaway or FSM.

Now market quite volatile, so I still kiasi a bit, put most at bond funds.
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Interesting.

I've just setup my account and allocated RM1,000 as a start and set my portfolio to conservative and will observe over the following 1 week or so.

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About 2 weeks in, and the app looks like its tracking the market well.

My 6k already returned almost RM200 as Bursa rallied. I'm still waiting to see their charges.
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the more i try to understand Raiz the more confuse i become
here is the question

Raiz said they will charge us 0.3% per annum management fee
Let us just say we invest RM10k into Moderate Risk which is ASN Imbang 2 Fund
From the Fund Fact we can see that management fee is 1% and Trustee Fee is 0.07%
So let us just say after 1 whole year the unit price maintain but we still need to pay 0.3% Raiz Management Fee (pay to raiz), 1% fund management fee (deduct our units to trade off) 0.07% Trustee Fee (deduct our units to trade off)
I dont see any advantage at all on using Raiz other than we save on Sales Charges
Sales Charges is 4% if we do OTC for Imbang 2 meaning we put 10k inside they will actually invest 9.6k and the 400 go into ASN pocket
End of the date the only thing we save is the Sales Charges and we still have to pay the 1% Fund Management Fee and 0.07% trustee fee annually regardless of fund making money or not

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the more i try to understand Raiz the more confuse i become
here is the question

Raiz said they will charge us 0.3% per annum management fee
Let us just say we invest RM10k into Moderate Risk which is ASN Imbang 2 Fund
From the Fund Fact we can see that management fee is 1% and Trustee Fee is 0.07%
So let us just say after 1 whole year the unit price maintain but we still need to pay 0.3% Raiz Management Fee (pay to raiz), 1% fund management fee (deduct our units to trade off) 0.07% Trustee Fee (deduct our units to trade off)
I dont see any advantage at all on using Raiz other than we save on Sales Charges
Sales Charges is 4% if we do OTC for Imbang 2 meaning we put 10k inside they will actually invest 9.6k and the 400 go into ASN pocket
End of the date the only thing we save is the Sales Charges and we still have to pay the 1% Fund Management Fee and 0.07% trustee fee annually regardless of fund making money or not

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Yeah! At last somebody starts to realize the working concept of unit trust funds.
You're partially correct. The management fee and trustee fee are chargeable on daily basis and are already reflected in the daily NAV posting price.

The fund management, trustee fee and other expenses for managing the fund are lumped under a key parameter that all unit trust funds must disclose in their annual report. This key parameter is called MER (management expenses ratio). And of course, the lower, the better; meaning the fund is operating leanly and prudently.

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Yeah! At last somebody starts to realize the working concept of unit trust funds.
You're partially correct. The management fee and trustee fee are chargeable on daily basis and are already reflected in the daily NAV posting price.

The fund management, trustee fee and other expenses for managing the fund are lumped under a key parameter that all unit trust funds must disclose in their annual report. This key parameter is called MER (management expenses ratio). And of course, the lower, the better; meaning the fund is operating leanly and prudently.
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I would say raiz just give us better rate than otc invest with asn
If you invest via epf now is basically zero sales charge fee
Anyway I would still say 0.3% per annum is far cheaper than 4% one time fee
If you plan to invest 14 years than go for otc
If you plan like short term 3 to 5 years then raiz lo
Still I think Raiz is nothing special as the fund can be easily bought by anyone in malaysia

In a nut shell basically is just a UT
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I would say raiz just give us better rate than otc invest with asn
If you invest via epf now is basically zero sales charge fee
Anyway I would still say 0.3% per annum is far cheaper than 4% one time fee
If you plan to invest 14 years than go for otc
If you plan like short term 3 to 5 years then raiz lo
Still I think Raiz is nothing special as the fund can be easily bought by anyone in malaysia

In a nut shell basically is just a UT
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UT with robo capital raising. Better off buying shares like Bursa, GLC linked companies when it dips cause no matter how will definitely make money when a person has the right entry and exit position and strategy.
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jul 13 2020, 01:00 AM)
UT with robo capital raising. Better off buying shares like Bursa, GLC linked companies when it dips cause no matter how will definitely make money when a person has the right entry and exit position and strategy.
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"UT with robo capital raising" - can you elaborate on this statement? I dont get it, you mean the robot will time its entry and sometimes will rebalance the portfolio? Honestly i dont think Raiz is this advance la
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"UT with robo capital raising" - can you elaborate on this statement? I dont get it, you mean the robot will time its entry and sometimes will rebalance the portfolio? Honestly i dont think Raiz is this advance la
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Entry position is based on deposit via major banks so it is up to 3 days clearance depending on the banks for this case via Maybank as the money will be held in Malaysia Govt Bonds for 3 days before it is being clear to your account in Raiz Malaysia.

Calculation are all done daily by Robo based on Unit Trust Value minus daily fees everyday and will rebalance everyday albeit you can’t see the mini or micro value of the price hence gains is minisicule by day. The major price changes will only be reflected by end month whereby the calculation will be redone to adjust the actual cents value to show it gains or losses depending on the portfolio.

The robo is quite advance for Malaysian market as it has been proven by Acorn which is formerly known as the proprietary algorithm has been proven in major markets. Raiz was actually part of modernisation plan by PNB to encourage more people to dump in the money into Malaysian capital markets indirectly to shore up the markets due to this pandemic.


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Raiz Malaysia is launching tomorrow 11am in association with PNB

Invest your spare change, automatically, from your everyday purchases into a unit trust portfolio.

https://www.raiz.com.my/support/


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Download the apps,
Follow steps by step to register.
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Why Maybank only?
Other bank account cannot?
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U need Maybank accounts first,
Download the apps,
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Don't have Maybank saving account but got Maybank credit card, can invest or not ?
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QUOTE(Daniel Joseph @ Jul 22 2020, 09:28 AM)
Other bank cannot?
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As i know, cannot.
Like me lo, open raiz account but cannot funding,
Or u purposely open one maybank acc lo
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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jul 22 2020, 09:30 AM)
As i know, cannot.
Like me lo, open raiz account but cannot funding,
Or u purposely open one maybank acc lo
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Thank you so much. Tomorrow I will open maybank account and install it’s app
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Remember open basic accounts if don't wanna kena charge atm card fee 😝

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Remember open basic accounts if don't wanna kena charge atm card fee 😝
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QUOTE(XHunTerx123 @ Jul 17 2020, 06:56 PM)
I topup accumulate RM150, still less than a month, return RM2.79
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Apa portfolio?
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Apa portfolio?
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Fuyoo, uncle.
I pergi mana2 pun jumpa uncle 😁
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Fuyoo, uncle.
I pergi mana2 pun jumpa uncle 😁
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His new Pokemon is PM's eUT.
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He's playing Pokemon: gotta catch em all
His new Pokemon is PM's eUT.
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 22 2020, 02:00 PM)
He's playing Pokemon: gotta catch em all
His new Pokemon is PM's eUT.
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i slowly consolidating
uncle learning
and soon i will just go missing
last time i active e-wallet then now i dont care about e-wallet anymore
i learn a thing or 2 about bigpay, boost, touch n go e-wallet, grab, etc etc
now i learning fsm, eut, opustouch, pmo, raiz, wahed and SA
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 22 2020, 03:43 PM)
i slowly consolidating
uncle learning
and soon i will just go missing
last time i active e-wallet then now i dont care about e-wallet anymore
i learn a thing or 2 about bigpay, boost, touch n go e-wallet, grab, etc etc
now i learning fsm, eut, opustouch, pmo, raiz, wahed and SA
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👍 Learn new skills ma
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Apa portfolio?
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Conservative saja boss, now RM4.71 only.

Wahad how ya? Local investment or international?
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Conservative saja boss, now RM4.71 only.

Wahad how ya? Local investment or international?
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 22 2020, 04:43 PM)
i slowly consolidating
uncle learning
and soon i will just go missing
last time i active e-wallet then now i dont care about e-wallet anymore
i learn a thing or 2 about bigpay, boost, touch n go e-wallet, grab, etc etc
now i learning fsm, eut, opustouch, pmo, raiz, wahed and SA
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Uncle got another one eUT from Bank Islam - called BEST investment app
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QUOTE(extinct_83 @ Jul 23 2020, 08:51 AM)
Uncle got another one eUT from Bank Islam - called BEST investment app
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Ada thread in lowyat?
I go there read read
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 23 2020, 09:22 AM)
Ada thread in lowyat?
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Here's the thread:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4957239

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Introducing Raiz Investment App for Maybank Debit Card

Invest spare change from daily purchases with Maybank Debit Card on Raiz App. Raiz is an automated investment service that rounds up each transaction from your Debit Card to the nearest Ringgit and invests the change into a unit trust portfolio based on your financial situation and goals.

Click here for more information:
https://www.maybank2u.com.my/maybank2u/mala...nking/raiz.page?

Click here for the FAQ
https://raiz.com.my/support/
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Article sharing: PNB introduces micro-investing mobile app, targets 60,000 sign-ups by year end

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/pnb-...ting-mobile-app

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Jul 23 2020, 01:26 PM)
Article sharing: PNB introduces micro-investing mobile app, targets 60,000 sign-ups by year end

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/pnb-...ting-mobile-app
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If got referrals sure 100k sign up no issue
I drop them an email recently and they say still no referral program yet

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Want to invest a bit but Raiz only accept MBB account, why so restrict ?
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Fees is rm1.50/month?

Annual fee is RM18 per year for 6k, which is also 0.30%.

This means that if you are investing 3k, your annual fee is 0.60%

1.5k= 1.2%
750= 2.4%
375= 4.8%

Not worth starting small? It will eat up your capital

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QUOTE(victorian @ Jul 23 2020, 02:57 PM)
Fees is rm1.50/month?

Annual fee is RM18 per year for 6k, which is also 0.30%.

This means that if you are investing 3k, your annual fee is 0.60%

1.5k= 1.2%
750= 2.4%
375= 4.8%

Not worth starting small? It will eat up your capital
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Want to invest a bit but Raiz only accept MBB account, why so restrict ?
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Hi,

For the first several months, Raiz will be exclusive to Maybank customers. Maybank and Raiz have worked extensively together to ensure the highest level of security for the App.

Rest assured that we do intend to extend support to other banks and cards in the future so do stay tuned to our Social Media pages or newsletter.

This is what i get when i email them and asking the same question
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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jul 23 2020, 07:17 PM)
Hi,

For the first several months, Raiz will be exclusive to Maybank customers. Maybank and Raiz have worked extensively together to ensure the highest level of security for the App.

Rest assured that we do intend to extend support to other banks and cards in the future so do stay tuned to our Social Media pages or newsletter.

This is what i get when i email them and asking the same question
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That could lead to next year. sweat.gif
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That could lead to next year. sweat.gif
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U can purposely go open one basic account lo
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what is the risk of loosing money if we pick Aggressive portfolio?
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what is the risk of loosing money if we pick Aggressive portfolio?
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It same like other investment, nobody can tell how much
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Decided to wait before I put in money into Raiz. Because the annual fee is quite high if you invest in small amount.
StashAway is 0.8% annually, and you can get free 6 months management fee when you sign up.

Raiz is cheaper if you invest more than 6k, 0.3% per annum. But if you invest less than 2k, you’ll end up paying more than StashAway annual fee.
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what is the risk of loosing money if we pick Aggressive portfolio?
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i on conservative smile.gif
i cannot take aggressive later heart attack mati
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QUOTE(victorian @ Jul 23 2020, 10:29 PM)
Decided to wait before I put in money into Raiz. Because the annual fee is quite high if you invest in small amount.
StashAway is 0.8% annually, and you can get free 6 months management fee when you sign up.

Raiz is cheaper if you invest more than 6k, 0.3% per annum. But if you invest less than 2k, you’ll end up paying more than StashAway annual fee.
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then invest direct with ASNB
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 23 2020, 10:31 PM)
then invest direct with ASNB
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1.5% sales charge?
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Apparently they really have very close partnership
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 23 2020, 10:30 PM)
i on conservative smile.gif
i cannot take aggressive  later heart attack mati
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how old are u?
it depend on the age and risk
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QUOTE(Daniel Joseph @ Jul 22 2020, 09:33 AM)
Thank you so much. Tomorrow I will open maybank account and install it’s app
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Why you eager for raiz 😅 or is it better compared to wahed n stashaway?
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QUOTE(MrChubbyChocobo @ Jul 23 2020, 10:51 PM)
Why you eager for raiz 😅 or is it better compared to wahed n stashaway?
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Wahed and SAMY are into ETFs outside Malaysia
Raiz is into god funds in Malaysia managed by PNB.

Not really apple-to-apple comparaison.
If you want to Raiz, compare against BEST from Bank Islam.
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 23 2020, 10:57 PM)
Wahed and SAMY are into ETFs outside Malaysia
Raiz is into god funds in Malaysia managed by PNB.

Not really apple-to-apple comparaison.
If you want to Raiz, compare against BEST from Bank Islam.
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Wah din know bank Islam also got.. tq2 rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 23 2020, 10:57 PM)
Wahed and SAMY are into ETFs outside Malaysia
Raiz is into god funds in Malaysia managed by PNB.

Not really apple-to-apple comparaison.
If you want to Raiz, compare against BEST from Bank Islam.
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god funds? maksud apa?
or you trying to say the they manages good funds?

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How do you get this app for android device?
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How do you get this app for android device?
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Apps store
[URL=Check out "Raiz"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.raiz.my]Raiz Malaysia[/URL]

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QUOTE(tsutsugami86 @ Jul 23 2020, 02:20 PM)
Want to invest a bit but Raiz only accept MBB account, why so restrict ?
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I believe it has something to do with MBB having developed reliable and secure API. if you have Wallet By BudgetBaker app, only Maybank and HSBC customers can sync their banking accounts to the app automatically.
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QUOTE(Tronoh @ Jul 24 2020, 08:33 AM)
I believe it has something to do with MBB having developed reliable and secure API. if you have Wallet By BudgetBaker app, only Maybank and HSBC customers can sync their banking accounts to the app automatically.
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Secure or not if they can sync our accounts?
If that is my salary account 🤔
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Secure or not won't be a big concern.
Can use FPX API as source fund.
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 24 2020, 08:36 AM)
Secure or not won't be a big concern.
Can use FPX API as source fund.
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But have to go branch open acc sudah i malas
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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jul 24 2020, 08:38 AM)
But have to go branch open acc sudah i malas
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With FPX, you're not limited to Maybank only.
You can source from other banks under FPX umbrella. dry.gif
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 24 2020, 08:38 AM)
With FPX, you're not limited to Maybank only.
You can source from other banks under FPX umbrella.  dry.gif
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But when press funding button, only Maybank keluar 😂
Or got new update oledi?
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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jul 24 2020, 08:41 AM)
But when press funding button, only Maybank keluar 😂
Or got new update oledi?
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What I meant is that they should have considered the FPX API.
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 24 2020, 08:42 AM)
What I meant is that they should have considered the FPX API.
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😂 Okok, i read too many post.
Only both 2 spamming the thread. Nanti admin come warning
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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jul 24 2020, 08:45 AM)
😂 Okok, i read too many post.
Only both 2 spamming the thread. Nanti admin come warning
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We're discussing legitimate concerns; where's the spamming element?
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We're discussing legitimate concerns; where's the spamming element?
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 23 2020, 11:30 PM)
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Jangan mati la, still young ma put 10k also cannot heart attack, people play trading lose 50k also like mcm tak sakit
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QUOTE(XHunTerx123 @ Jul 24 2020, 11:51 AM)
Jangan mati la, still young ma put 10k also cannot heart attack, people play trading lose 50k also like mcm tak sakit
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Betul juga but I really don't like stock
Ppl aak me buy supermax and top glove also I dare not buy
My friend put 250k in top glove during 16 till 18
Earn like gila
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 24 2020, 12:24 PM)
Betul juga but I really don't like stock
Ppl aak me buy supermax and top glove also I dare not buy
My friend put 250k in top glove during 16 till 18
Earn like gila
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You should have joined your friend call given your impatience (from PM thread).
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 24 2020, 01:24 PM)
Betul juga but I really don't like stock
Ppl aak me buy supermax and top glove also I dare not buy
My friend put 250k in top glove during 16 till 18
Earn like gila
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Ya lor, if u buy that time now boom price ady lor, i got no pockets money to spare if spare i mati 1st
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share ur losses and profit from raiz?
anyone on conservative?
I on conservative so far i ada 3.52% gain
i dont know how they count this 3.52% as it not say TWR or MWR
i dca weekly RM1k and almost reaching my 10k mark soon
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Worth to invest in this app?
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Worth to invest in this app?
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tak tahu worth or not worth la
uncle newbie
just try to explore what is out there before i die

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 24 2020, 10:24 PM)
tak tahu worth or not worth la
uncle newbie
just try to explore what is out there before i die
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Uncle helps young try the water temperature first. rclxms.gif
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Uncle helps young try the water temperature first. rclxms.gif
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a lot ppl try some say good, some say bad
i say not too bad
problem is cant have more than one portfolio
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a lot ppl try some say good, some say bad
i say not too bad
problem is cant have more than one portfolio
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How much uncle invest. How about the ROI rate? If better than FD, then can consider to put in.
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How much uncle invest. How about the ROI rate? If better than FD, then can consider to put in.
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little money saja
roi i think 3%
just dca slowly weekly put till reach target
then got spare money continue put inside
i take conservative portfolio ma so very slow
not sure better than FD or not
FD at least confirm ada duit
this one maybe before u want withdraw China launch nuclear sama US then habis la
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annual fees 0.3% including the fund expense? Or 0.3% just for the raiz and additional 1-1.5% for ASN variable fund
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My friend put Moderate drop like hell la, conservative so far still ok
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QUOTE(nguminhuang @ Jul 25 2020, 10:12 PM)
annual fees 0.3% including the fund expense? Or 0.3% just for the raiz and additional 1-1.5% for ASN variable fund
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0.3% pa is charged by Raiz not PNB.
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 26 2020, 07:59 AM)
0.3% pa is charged by Raiz not PNB.
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Got fund expenses which will be deducted by pnb
Which is not going to be visible in raiz
Will.be visible in the fund report
Betul?
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QUOTE(XHunTerx123 @ Jul 25 2020, 10:53 PM)
My friend put Moderate drop like hell la, conservative so far still ok
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I only put in Conservative and so so return
Aggressive return how? anyone?
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I really like raiz's concept of investing your small pocket change as the saying goes "sedikit sedikit lama lama jadi bukit". But my concern is the subpar performance of the underlying ASNB variable funds over the years which is holding me back currently.

Also, their fixed fee of rm1.50/month also seems to deviate from their concept of small change investing. If my small change amounts to say rm50 per month, rm1.50 is equivalent to 3% fee itself
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QUOTE(chichabom @ Jul 26 2020, 09:51 AM)
I really like raiz's concept of investing your small pocket change as the saying goes "sedikit sedikit lama lama jadi bukit". But my concern is the subpar performance of the underlying ASNB variable funds over the years which is holding me back currently.

Also, their fixed fee of rm1.50/month also seems to deviate from their concept of small change investing. If my small change amounts to say rm50 per month, rm1.50 is equivalent to 3% fee itself
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As much as I welcome the concept of investing pocket change, I can’t help but to think that all these features comes with a cost.

Investing should be a habit and not an afterthought coming from the spare change of your meal

How much can you save from your spare change monthly? Rm50-100? Not to forget Raiz is charging minimum RM1.50 per MONTH for amount less than RM6,000. You will be paying 1.5% monthly fee if you are investing RM100 in Raiz. That is equivalent to 18% annual fee; in contrast Stashaway has no minimum fee charge and they are charging 0.8% annual fee.

If you ask me, Raiz is definitely not suitable for “spare change” investing. The fee charge will eat up your funds before you know it. I can foresee many youngster who is not serious in investing but wanting to dip their feet into the pool get mediocre return over the years.

If you want to invest, get serious and set up a regular saving plan and not just invest your spare change.


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QUOTE(victorian @ Jul 26 2020, 10:10 AM)
As much as I welcome the concept of investing pocket change, I can’t help but to think that all these features comes with a cost.

Investing should be a habit and not an afterthought coming from the spare change of your meal

How much can you save from your spare change monthly? Rm50-100? Not to forget Raiz is charging minimum RM1.50 per MONTH for amount less than RM6,000. You will be paying 1.5% monthly fee if you are investing RM100 in Raiz. That is equivalent to 18% annual fee; in contrast Stashaway has no minimum fee charge and they are charging 0.8% annual fee.

If you ask me, Raiz is definitely not suitable for “spare change” investing. The fee charge will eat up your funds before you know it. I can foresee many youngster who is not serious in investing but wanting to dip their feet into the pool get mediocre return over the years.

If you want to invest, get serious and set up a regular saving plan and not just invest your spare change.
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Agreed. If they had charged a lower fixed fee of say rm3 or rm5 per annum guess its more acceptable to the masses.

But i also do believe most ppl in raiz would already have their existing RSP or other main investment vehicles. i just view raiz from a very simple perspective, for them to take away my small change and put it aside which otherwise i would have spent it away anyway. Just something "little extra" for me in the future which is not a must have, but a bonus if its there.
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QUOTE(chichabom @ Jul 26 2020, 10:48 AM)
Agreed. If they had charged a lower fixed fee of say rm3 or rm5 per annum guess its more acceptable to the masses.

But i also do believe most ppl in raiz would already have their existing RSP or other main investment vehicles. i just view raiz from a very simple perspective, for them to take away my small change and put it aside which otherwise i would have spent it away anyway. Just something "little extra" for me in the future which is not a must have, but a bonus if its there.
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Haha yea maybe it’s for those who do not have the habit of tracking their spending.

To me, I regularly track my spending so I know where every cents go. It’s not suitable for me, but I’m sure there’s someone out there who needs it. Just need to be mindful of the charge, else your “spare change” might turn negative
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Haha yea maybe it’s for those who do not have the habit of tracking their spending.

To me, I regularly track my spending so I know where every cents go. It’s not suitable for me, but I’m sure there’s someone out there who needs it. Just need to be mindful of the charge, else your “spare change” might turn negative
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Ya precisely! Thats why im still not in raiz yet due to the fee and somewhat lack of confidence in the underlying funds lol. But i may well give it a shot if any of these changes in the future tongue.gif
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QUOTE(victorian @ Jul 26 2020, 10:10 AM)
As much as I welcome the concept of investing pocket change, I can’t help but to think that all these features comes with a cost.

Investing should be a habit and not an afterthought coming from the spare change of your meal

How much can you save from your spare change monthly? Rm50-100? Not to forget Raiz is charging minimum RM1.50 per MONTH for amount less than RM6,000. You will be paying 1.5% monthly fee if you are investing RM100 in Raiz. That is equivalent to 18% annual fee; in contrast Stashaway has no minimum fee charge and they are charging 0.8% annual fee.

If you ask me, Raiz is definitely not suitable for “spare change” investing. The fee charge will eat up your funds before you know it. I can foresee many youngster who is not serious in investing but wanting to dip their feet into the pool get mediocre return over the years.

If you want to invest, get serious and set up a regular saving plan and not just invest your spare change.
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Should not have minimal charges
Go post at their Facebook
How to sikit sikit lama lama jadi Bukit?
If 1 month spare change is rm30 then 1.50 go raiz
5% per month which translate to 60% per annum
If somehow that month mco again and I got only rm1 invested then I have to cough out rm1.50 to save the rm1 with raiz
This is day light robbery

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 26 2020, 11:24 AM)
Should not have minimal charges
Go post at their Facebook
How to sikit sikit lama lama jadi Bukit?
If 1 month spare change is rm30 then 1.50 go raiz
5% per month which translate to 60% per annum
If somehow that month mco again and I got only rm1 invested then I have to cough out rm1.50 to save the rm1 with raiz
This is day light robbery
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Yea lol, this is worse than normal savings account.

Don’t forget, every pennies that goes into fees= pennies that could’ve been your return.
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QUOTE(victorian @ Jul 26 2020, 11:30 AM)
Yea lol, this is worse than normal savings account.

Don’t forget, every pennies that goes into fees= pennies that could’ve been your return.
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QUOTE(chichabom @ Jul 26 2020, 12:23 PM)
Ya precisely! Thats why im still not in raiz yet due to the fee and somewhat lack of confidence in the underlying funds lol. But i may well give it a shot if any of these changes in the future tongue.gif
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Another option which is FSM, you can manage yourself everything. Like me I'm not so called "bangsawan" person, as long as I got money sure will spend, in this case, better I put all my extra money into any investment plan which consider fine or good rather than decorate my body. I don't have RM1k per month can spent, but I will put small wage into investment at least not burning it.
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QUOTE(XHunTerx123 @ Jul 26 2020, 01:26 PM)
Another option which is FSM, you can manage yourself everything. Like me I'm not so called "bangsawan" person, as long as I got money sure will spend, in this case, better I put all my extra money into any investment plan which consider fine or good rather than decorate my body. I don't have RM1k per month can spent, but I will put small wage into investment at least not burning it.
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hope you had above RM6k invested with them....
(refer to post 227 for why must above 6k)

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QUOTE(XHunTerx123 @ Jul 26 2020, 01:26 PM)
Another option which is FSM, you can manage yourself everything. Like me I'm not so called "bangsawan" person, as long as I got money sure will spend, in this case, better I put all my extra money into any investment plan which consider fine or good rather than decorate my body. I don't have RM1k per month can spent, but I will put small wage into investment at least not burning it.
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If you are starting small, best to avoid Raiz as it has minimum rm1.50 charge. But putting in RM6k just to minimize the fee % is not so wise either, as you’ll be exposed to the downside risk of not spreading out your investment.

Either way I’ll always avoid minimum charge platform if I don’t have enough bullet
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Its been a month since I plopped down RM6k into the app in a Conservative portfolio. So far have made RM264 within the month itself. Most probably is because of the surge in the KLCI due to people buying glove lol

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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Jul 26 2020, 05:01 PM)
Its been a month since I plopped down RM6k into the app in a Conservative portfolio. So far have made RM264 within the month itself. Most probably is because of the surge in the KLCI due to people buying glove lol

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Did they debit the monthly fee for June? I don't see it anywhere in the app.

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Did they debit the monthly fee for June? I don't see it anywhere in the app.
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Its been a month since I plopped down RM6k into the app in a Conservative portfolio. So far have made RM264 within the month itself. Most probably is because of the surge in the KLCI due to people buying glove lol

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Wow.. A month earn about 8% - do you top up in the middle or just left 6K until now?
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Wow.. A month earn about 8% - do you top up in the middle or just left 6K until now?
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Didn't top up. Placed 6k back in June and left it at that
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Didn't top up. Placed 6k back in June and left it at that
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So this is 2nd SAMY which can potentially generate double digit return?
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 27 2020, 09:35 AM)
So this is 2nd SAMY which can potentially generate double digit return?
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Maybe. But 1 month might still be too short to judge
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Wow.. A month earn about 8% - do you top up in the middle or just left 6K until now?
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hmm.gif was mentioned "Its been a month since I plopped down RM6k into the app in a Conservative portfolio. So far have made RM264 within the month itself"

been a month since topped 6k
made 264 within a month

thus could it be 264/6000 x100 = 4.4% and the displayed 8.44% was cumulation from previous gains ?
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i think those who lumpsum make good money
i DCA starting with 1k in middle june till now got 7k
every monday 1k
return just so so saja
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QUOTE(victorian @ Jul 26 2020, 11:10 AM)
As much as I welcome the concept of investing pocket change, I can’t help but to think that all these features comes with a cost.

Investing should be a habit and not an afterthought coming from the spare change of your meal

How much can you save from your spare change monthly? Rm50-100? Not to forget Raiz is charging minimum RM1.50 per MONTH for amount less than RM6,000. You will be paying 1.5% monthly fee if you are investing RM100 in Raiz. That is equivalent to 18% annual fee; in contrast Stashaway has no minimum fee charge and they are charging 0.8% annual fee.

If you ask me, Raiz is definitely not suitable for “spare change” investing. The fee charge will eat up your funds before you know it. I can foresee many youngster who is not serious in investing but wanting to dip their feet into the pool get mediocre return over the years.

If you want to invest, get serious and set up a regular saving plan and not just invest your spare change.
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This statement, I would like to know the 18% annual fee is based on which calculation?
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Not to forget Raiz is charging minimum RM1.50 per MONTH for amount less than RM6,000. You will be paying 1.5% monthly fee if you are investing RM100 in Raiz. That is equivalent to 18% annual fee

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QUOTE(XHunTerx123 @ Jul 27 2020, 02:36 PM)
This statement, I would like to know the 18% annual fee is based on which calculation?
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1.5% monthly * 12 months = 18%
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Just wondering, anyone here tried/used https://wahedinvest.com/ before? If yes, how does it compare to Raiz?
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Just wondering, anyone here tried/used https://wahedinvest.com/ before? If yes, how does it compare to  Raiz?
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Here's the existing dedicated thread for discussion:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4858234/+1840#entry97591251
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Just wondering, anyone here tried/used https://wahedinvest.com/ before? If yes, how does it compare to  Raiz?
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there was an existing thread on Wahed.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4858234/+1840
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QUOTE(victorian @ Jul 27 2020, 03:38 PM)
1.5% monthly * 12 months = 18%
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Hurmm.... I have some opinion for this calculation.
RM1.50 per months=1.5% for RM100 each months
RM1.50 * 12 months = RM18 for RM1200 (12 months)
RM18 = 1.5% for 12 months / per annum

Does this more accurate? Since it charge as RM1.50 not 1.5%
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QUOTE(XHunTerx123 @ Jul 27 2020, 02:59 PM)
Hurmm.... I have some opinion for this calculation.
RM1.50 per months=1.5% for RM100 each months
RM1.50 * 12 months = RM18 for RM1200 (12 months)
RM18 = 1.5% for 12 months / per annum

Does this more accurate? Since it charge as RM1.50 not 1.5%
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My calculation is based on rm100 in your portfolio, of course as you DCA more you will get lower and lower % until you hit 0.30% annually at RM6k.

My point is, since it is fixed RM1.50, the annualized fee can be very high if you are not investing a lot.
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QUOTE(victorian @ Jul 27 2020, 04:09 PM)
My calculation is based on rm100 in your portfolio, of course as you DCA more you will get lower and lower % until you hit 0.30% annually at RM6k.

My point is, since it is fixed RM1.50, the annualized fee can be very high if you are not investing a lot.
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I see, than it is correct, if this better prefer FD or ASNB
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I see, than it is correct, if this better prefer FD or ASNB
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I see, than it is correct, if this better prefer FD or ASNB
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But if you are investing more than 6k, 0.30% fee is very attractive
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But if you are investing more than 6k, 0.30% fee is very attractive
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In which means the higher your investment the lower been charged in %
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QUOTE(XHunTerx123 @ Jul 28 2020, 02:29 PM)
In which means the higher your investment the lower been charged in %
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not a true statement
the crossing point is 6k
after 6k it make no difference at all
i start with 1k weekly and slowly move up to now 8k
this week should reach 9k as 1 more k pending buy
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Jul 26 2020, 05:01 PM)
Its been a month since I plopped down RM6k into the app in a Conservative portfolio. So far have made RM264 within the month itself. Most probably is because of the surge in the KLCI due to people buying glove lol

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But presume conservative portfolio will allocate more towards bonds than equity right? Not surprising as i see many bond funds doing quite well in recent months
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But presume conservative portfolio will allocate more towards bonds than equity right? Not surprising as i see many bond funds doing quite well in recent months
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It does. But about there is also a significant portion allocated to equities as well. More than 20% I believe since ASN Equity 3 is 95% equities and about 30-40% of ASN Sara 1 are equities

But check out a significant holding in ASN Equity 3 biggrin.gif

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It does. But about there is also a significant portion allocated to equities as well. More than 20% I believe since ASN Equity 3 is 95% equities and about 30-40% of ASN Sara 1 are equities

But check out a significant holding in ASN Equity 3  biggrin.gif

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Haha looks like its mandatory to incorporate glove stocks into everyone's portfolio now. But really good returns you have for just a one month portfolio, where if you put in fd you may need 4years to reach same amount lol
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I looked at ASN Equity 3 - any idea why the NAV was static at 0.9039 since 24 - 28 July? KLCI was up and down for the past few days...


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I looked at ASN Equity 3 - any idea why the NAV was static at 0.9039 since 24 - 28 July? KLCI was up and down for the past few days...
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ASN Equity 3

24/7: 0.8963
27/7: 0.8955
28/7: 0.9039

Source: The Star Online
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As off today total investment dah sampai 8k
Return 141 saja
Samy or raiz?

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As off today total investment dah sampai 8k
Return 141 saja
Samy or raiz?
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Uncle, banyaknya u invest.
Jgn sailang all, nanti equity fund u over shoot la.
Now market rally /uptrend ok lagi.
Nanti market dip /downtrend, u mahu nangis o 😅😅😅
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Concept is good to invest with small/extra money.
But the portfolio...hello cannot la..100% in Malaysia market, and as we know, all these variable funds are not performing well all the while, not attractive seriously.
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As off today total investment dah sampai 8k
Return 141 saja
Samy or raiz?
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Slow and steady my friend. At least its a positive figure. What if you are seeing -141? Will you cash out everything?
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Slow and steady my friend. At least its a positive figure. What if you are seeing -141? Will you cash out everything?
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 29 2020, 10:26 PM)
As off today total investment dah sampai 8k
Return 141 saja
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Time to wait for dips then can buy again rclxms.gif
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DCA don't care how market react
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But you seem like not practising it  dry.gif
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I notice something weird about this raiz
Change in 1M says 443 which I don't think is true
I wish it is true but very confusing
When you click performance details then it is accurate

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ASN Equity 3

24/7: 0.8963
27/7: 0.8955
28/7: 0.9039

Source: The Star Online
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 30 2020, 09:22 AM)
I notice something weird about this raiz
Change in 1M says 443 which I don't think is true
I wish it is true but very confusing
When you click performance details then it is accurate

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I believe it is measuring the difference between your investment value at the start of the month and at the end.

For mine also, it seems weird. I invested RM6,010, but and as of today, my fund value is RM 6,285, but my Change in Value (1M) shows RM 290 rather than RM275.

However in the first few days of my investment, the value fell from my original RM 6,010 to around RM 5,995. When I take the difference between my value now and the lowest investment value for the month (the RM 5,995), then the Change in Value (1M) is as shown (RM 290).
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I believe it is measuring the difference between your investment value at the start of the month and at the end.

For mine also, it seems weird. I invested RM6,010, but and as of today, my fund value is RM 6,285, but my Change in Value (1M) shows RM 290 rather than RM275.

However in the first few days of my investment, the value fell from my original RM 6,010 to around RM 5,995. When I take the difference between my value now and the lowest investment value for the month (the RM 5,995), then the Change in Value (1M) is as shown (RM 290).
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For mine I could not get that value by taking lowest minus highest. Maybe I weekly dca.
BTW you on which portfolio?
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 30 2020, 05:53 PM)
For mine I could not get that value by taking lowest minus highest. Maybe I weekly dca.
BTW you on which portfolio?
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Conservative. The one with 80% in ASN Sara 1 and 20% in ASN Equity 3
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Jul 30 2020, 07:45 PM)
Conservative. The one with 80% in ASN Sara 1 and 20% in ASN Equity 3
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Same
I start with rm10 then top up rm50 then withdraw rm10 to make sure everything works money can go in and come out then I top up 6k on 13 july
From that week onwards every week dca 1k
So far have 8k inside




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I'm new and just looking for a place to put small investment ( rm10-200) without monitoring it, is this a good place to put in?
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QUOTE(hottemper @ Jul 31 2020, 01:49 PM)
I'm new and just looking for a place to put small investment ( rm10-200) without monitoring it, is this a good place to put in?
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with just that amount of money in Raiz,...better read post 227 (page 12) first...

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 31 2020, 01:52 PM)
with just that amount of money in Raiz,...better read post 227 (page 12) first...
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QUOTE(hottemper @ Jul 31 2020, 02:49 PM)
I'm new and just looking for a place to put small investment ( rm10-200) without monitoring it, is this a good place to put in?
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As long as you think can cover the fee, than is your own call.
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post Jul 31 2020, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(hottemper @ Jul 31 2020, 02:05 PM)
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If you want a place to put your RM 50 - RM 100 and let it do its earning without thinking much. You can consider the following options

1) Classic mutual funds / unit trusts from FSM (Try to go for the ones with the lowest sales charges)
2) Robo-advisory (StashAway/Waheed/myTheo - These ones do not charge fixed fees like Raiz. The fees is around 1% p.a. no matter how much you put in)

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QUOTE(hottemper @ Jul 31 2020, 01:49 PM)
I'm new and just looking for a place to put small investment ( rm10-200) without monitoring it, is this a good place to put in?
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Better don't as minimum management fee is rm1.50 per month
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 1 2020, 01:33 AM)
Better don't as minimum management fee is rm1.50 per month
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Wholly agreed as it will eat up your savings for no reason even with gain of 2% per month

Raiz robo is smarter than a lot ppl who would know 😂
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Aug 1 2020, 05:18 AM)
Wholly agreed as it will eat up your savings for no reason even with gain of 2% per month

Raiz robo is smarter than a lot ppl who would know 😂
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So what is this raiz robo do?
If you on Conservative then it is always 80% asn Sara and 20% equity 3
What is there to need a robot?
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 1 2020, 09:18 AM)
So what is this raiz robo do?
If you on Conservative then it is always 80% asn Sara and 20% equity 3
What is there to need a robot?
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I don't think its trying to market itself as a robo-advisor. I certainly don't see it trying to say it is one on its website.

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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Aug 1 2020, 02:03 PM)
I don't think its trying to market itself as a robo-advisor. I certainly don't see it trying to say it is one on its website.

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The robo-advisor or AI thing is not so advanced and intelligent as you guys expecting.

It will only try to rebalance to the preset weightage once valuation exceeded or new additional investment (top up) added.
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 1 2020, 09:18 AM)
So what is this raiz robo do?
If you on Conservative then it is always 80% asn Sara and 20% equity 3
What is there to need a robot?
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This robo algorithm will make sure that the gain will always be less than lesser than what the investors calculate

Because computational compounds factors hence the robo will always gain over the investors no matter what and with factor daily charges hence rounding gain by Raiz.

It’s already happen with Grab in Malaysia as most people doesn’t realise it

It’s basically rounding robo advisor gain rclxms.gif
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Oh ini macam
Then rm1.50 really not worth it lo
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 2 2020, 11:37 PM)
Oh ini macam
Then rm1.50 really not worth it lo
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Aug 3 2020, 07:30 AM)
Time to cash out!  biggrin.gif
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You always ask me cash out saja
I learn UT is 3 to 5 years ma
This Raiz is UT so I will cash out after 3 to 5 years lo
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 3 2020, 09:03 AM)
You always ask me cash out saja
I learn UT is 3 to 5 years ma
This Raiz is UT so I will cash out after 3 to 5 years lo
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You always have a mindset of people cheating your money since few weeks ago. dry.gif

Later negative valuation on hand drops to red sea region how?

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Aug 3 2020, 09:04 AM)
You always have a mindset of people cheating your money since few weeks ago.  dry.gif

Later negative valuation on hand drops to red sea region how?
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Play safe ma
Anyway cheat vs investment is different
We confirm the platform does not cheat money then we move on to trust the platform
After we trust the platform we start investing more regularly
After that we understand further how the platform actually works
In case of raiz it is nothing special since it has only 3 portfolio and inside the 3 is all asn products
They don't do optimization or even add more products
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 3 2020, 09:13 AM)
Play safe ma
Anyway cheat vs investment is different
We confirm the platform does not cheat money then we move on to trust the platform
After we trust the platform we start investing more regularly
After that we understand further how the platform actually works
In case of raiz it is nothing special since it has only 3 portfolio and inside the 3 is all asn products
They don't do optimization or even add more products
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I never worry at all as they're registered with SC.
I can always lodge a complaint to SC, SIRDEC or even FIMM if there's any element of fraud.
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Aug 3 2020, 09:15 AM)
I never worry at all as they're registered with SC.
I can always lodge a complaint to SC, SIRDEC or even FIMM if there's any element of fraud.
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Betul tapi kena cheat already too late lo
Better test water dulu ma
Again I wish raiz will say since market cash so badly we will optimise your portfolio to our fix price product
Hahaha

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My account was deducted RM100 for my initial Raiz investment on 30th July, but it is still not showing on my Raiz app.

How long does it usually take?

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QUOTE(Bora Prisoner @ Aug 3 2020, 04:43 PM)
My account was deducted RM100 for my initial Raiz investment on 30th July, but it is still not showing on my Raiz app.

How long does it usually take?
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For me it's takes one working day.
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QUOTE(Bora Prisoner @ Aug 3 2020, 03:43 PM)
My account was deducted RM100 for my initial Raiz investment on 30th July, but it is still not showing on my Raiz app.

How long does it usually take?
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last week did full withdrawal finally today see money in my account
at the same time they charge me RM1.32 under Fee
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 5 2020, 08:57 PM)
last week did full withdrawal finally today see money in my account
at the same time they charge me RM1.32 under Fee
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Last week what day?
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 5 2020, 08:57 PM)
last week did full withdrawal finally today see money in my account
at the same time they charge me RM1.32 under Fee
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Did full withdrawal as well but got charged rm1.50. requested on 1st, received money today

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Aug 5 2020, 08:58 PM)
Last week what day?
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late friday

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 5 2020, 11:00 PM)
late friday
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Last Friday was a public holiday.
So your order was executed on this week Monday.
T+2 (yesterday) is considered rather fast.
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 5 2020, 08:57 PM)
last week did full withdrawal finally today see money in my account
at the same time they charge me RM1.32 under Fee
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I got charged RM 1.55. I thought the bare minimum they charge is RM 1.50. Didn't think withdrawals can bring down the charge
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Aug 6 2020, 02:45 PM)
I got charged RM 1.55. I thought the bare minimum they charge is RM 1.50. Didn't think withdrawals can bring down the charge
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do note that i invest less than 30 days
how much you invested
maybe you invested for 30 days and is more than 6k that is why 1.55?
i already say bye bye to Raiz
i am consolidating and it has been a fund experience with raiz as well
now 1 app lesser to check smile.gif
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 6 2020, 04:12 PM)
do note that i invest less than 30 days
how much you invested
maybe you invested for 30 days and is more than 6k that is why 1.55?
i already say bye bye to Raiz
i am consolidating and it has been a fund experience with raiz as well
now 1 app lesser to check smile.gif
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Where are you consolidating to?
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Aug 6 2020, 04:13 PM)
Where are you consolidating to?
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Opus + Samy saja right now
at least i tried before know how things works
like opus because if it is very liquid and low risk
like samy because return the best amoung all 3 i tried
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 6 2020, 04:46 PM)
Opus + Samy saja right now
at least i tried before know how things works
like opus because if it is very liquid and low risk
like samy because return the best amoung all 3 i tried
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How about your other Pokemons in eUT and PM?
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Aug 6 2020, 04:49 PM)
How about your other Pokemons in eUT and PM?
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PMO always got my P Bond - old ppl bond so i will not touch it save it for my son and daughter
eUT just some here and there that i test test saja nothing significant

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 6 2020, 04:52 PM)
PMO always got my P Bond - old ppl bond so i will not touch it save it for my son and daughter
eUT just some here and there that i test test saja nothing significant
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IIRC, you also got some in FSM too right? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Aug 6 2020, 04:56 PM)
IIRC, you also got some in FSM too right?  hmm.gif
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i did put 1k inside for like 2 weeks then sold it off
i just want to test how to use
i like to learn new things as well
good thing about FSM is it has font bigger compare to eUT
for eUT i need to zoom to see

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For some reason it failed to deposit. No reason given via notification and e-mail. Maybe I can forget about this, concentrate on StashAway Simple which deposit is in progress.
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QUOTE(CPURanger @ Aug 6 2020, 07:01 PM)
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For some reason it failed to deposit. No reason given via notification and e-mail. Maybe I can forget about this, concentrate on StashAway Simple which deposit is in progress.
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Go MBB set limit
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 6 2020, 07:30 PM)
Go MBB set limit
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OK, maybe is because I set the purchase limit to zero for debit card.

Thanks, I will try later.
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QUOTE(CPURanger @ Aug 6 2020, 07:48 PM)
OK, maybe is because I set the purchase limit to zero for debit card.

Thanks, I will try later.
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yeah this is the reason - you are not alone
me too face this issue
good luck
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Jul 31 2020, 06:21 PM)
If you want a place to put your RM 50 - RM 100 and let it do its earning without thinking much. You can consider the following options

1) Classic mutual funds / unit trusts from FSM (Try to go for the ones with the lowest sales charges)
2) Robo-advisory (StashAway/Waheed/myTheo - These ones do not charge fixed fees like Raiz. The fees is around 1% p.a. no matter how much you put in)
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Stashaway is the same as Raiz but no fixed fee?
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QUOTE(hottemper @ Aug 6 2020, 09:15 PM)
Stashaway is the same as Raiz but no fixed fee?
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just few pages back...it did mentioned SA has tier fees structure....
i think Raiz has only 2 structures...below or above RMxxxx

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QUOTE(hottemper @ Aug 6 2020, 09:15 PM)
Stashaway is the same as Raiz but no fixed fee?
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Yeah. The fee is rate-based even if you have less than 6k invested, which is why I like it.
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Aug 6 2020, 08:31 PM)
only can use maybank? other banks cannot?
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Only Maybank debit card account. It do not accept credit card and other types of payment.

What banks and cards can I link to my Raiz account?
At the moment, you can only link your Maybank debit card to your Raiz account.

https://www.raiz.com.my/support/
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QUOTE(CPURanger @ Aug 6 2020, 10:28 PM)
Only Maybank debit card account. It do not accept credit card and other types of payment.

What banks and cards can I link to my Raiz account?
At the moment, you can only link your Maybank debit card to your Raiz account.

https://www.raiz.com.my/support/
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means have to open maybank account? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Aug 6 2020, 10:32 PM)
means have to open maybank account?  sweat.gif
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RHB Smart Account has no concern to open.
Opening Maybank account will be kacang putih for you!
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Aug 6 2020, 10:33 PM)
RHB Smart Account has no concern to open.
Opening Maybank account will be kacang putih for you!
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indeed. if only everything can be done online, that would be great.
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Aug 6 2020, 11:33 PM)
RHB Smart Account has no concern to open.
Opening Maybank account will be kacang putih for you!
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RHB Smart account need referral? That one is current account wor.
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Just sharing my experience using Raiz since 11 July.

9 July: Opened a new account with Raiz after getting verified
11 July: Failed to transferred RM1,000 as a start as i later realized it was my Maybank transfer credit limit cap that prevented me doing so
14 July: Successfully transferred RM500 as a start and switch portfolio to aggressive

Fast foward to 7 Aug: I have only gained less than RM10 with my initial deposit of RM500 after roughly 3+ weeks.

I plan to allocate another RM1,000 end of August and monitor the aggressive portfolio performance for another 3 months or so.


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QUOTE(Kagekiyo @ Aug 7 2020, 11:08 AM)
Just sharing my experience using Raiz since 11 July.

9 July: Opened a new account with Raiz after getting verified
11 July: Failed to transferred RM1,000 as a start as i later realized it was my Maybank transfer credit limit cap that prevented me doing so
14 July: Successfully transferred RM500 as a start and switch portfolio to aggressive

Fast foward to 7 Aug: I have only gained less than RM10 with my initial deposit of RM500 after roughly 3+ weeks.

I plan to allocate another RM1,000 end of August and monitor the aggressive portfolio performance for another 3 months or so.
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Make sure gain more than rm1.5 to pay for the fee
Else invest at least 6k if you have the spare cash
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 7 2020, 11:10 AM)
Make sure gain more than rm1.5 to pay for the fee
Else invest at least 6k if you have the spare cash
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When Raiz charges you the RM1.50 per month for investments below RM6,000 where does this service fee get reflected and is this on the basis of 1 month from day 1 you invested X amount or fixed at the 1st day of the month?
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QUOTE(Kagekiyo @ Aug 7 2020, 11:08 AM)
Just sharing my experience using Raiz since 11 July.

9 July: Opened a new account with Raiz after getting verified
11 July: Failed to transferred RM1,000 as a start as i later realized it was my Maybank transfer credit limit cap that prevented me doing so
14 July: Successfully transferred RM500 as a start and switch portfolio to aggressive

Fast foward to 7 Aug: I have only gained less than RM10 with my initial deposit of RM500 after roughly 3+ weeks.

I plan to allocate another RM1,000 end of August and monitor the aggressive portfolio performance for another 3 months or so.
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i am not saying anything bad about your posting.....

just borrow to use it as an example for this morning tok-tok....

made 2% after just 3 weeks
tambah again another 2x of the initial deposit....

seems like the making of a money games mindset/strategy.... biggrin.gif




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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 7 2020, 11:30 AM)
i am not saying anything bad about your posting.....

just borrow to use it as an example for this morning tok-tok....

made 2% after just 3 weeks
tambah again another 2x of the initial deposit....

seems like the making of a money games mindset/strategy.... biggrin.gif
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No worries. Good on you that you were able to gain that +2% after 3 weeks. Was it under the moderate or aggressive portfolio?

Everyone's appetite for risk varies. I suppose more so during this period when things are so uncertain. However, there is always going to be opportunity to have quick wins during this period too if you are vigilent to know where to park your money.
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QUOTE(Kagekiyo @ Aug 7 2020, 11:38 AM)
No worries. Good on you that you were able to gain that +2% after 3 weeks. Was it under the moderate or aggressive portfolio?

Everyone's appetite for risk varies. I suppose more so during this period when things are so uncertain. However, there is always going to be opportunity to have quick wins during this period too if you are vigilent to know where to park your money.
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i think that 2% in 3 weeks was from you post....
RM10 gain from RM500 investment = 2%
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It's good if you could spot pocket of opportunity for quick win but also do remember that things can also go south if market conditions is not at favourable terms.
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Aug 7 2020, 11:43 AM)
It's good if you could spot pocket of opportunity for quick win but also do remember that things can also go south if market conditions is not at favourable terms.
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So dca and don't time it

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Not sure who already feel it, recently conservative profile are dropping down, it could be our current memorandum period going to finish soon.
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Not sure who already feel it, recently conservative profile are dropping down, it could be our current memorandum period going to finish soon.
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Memorandum? Want to do spread what agenda?

Or loan moratorium?
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Memorandum? Want to do spread what agenda?

Or loan moratorium?
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no spread, haha. Just wondering recently why drop
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QUOTE(Kagekiyo @ Aug 7 2020, 11:25 AM)
When Raiz charges you the RM1.50 per month for investments below RM6,000 where does this service fee get reflected and is this on the basis of 1 month from day 1 you invested X amount or fixed at the 1st day of the month?
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For RM 1.50, apparently it says it will charge your debit card (meaning your bank account directly), it will probably appear in your bank statement.

The fee is charged at the beginning of every month. I don't know if they will charge RM 1.50 if you invested for less than one month at the start. They didn't charge me anything when I first invested in late June.

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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Aug 13 2020, 06:32 PM)
For RM 1.50, apparently it says it will charge your debit card (meaning your bank account directly), it will probably appear in your bank statement.

The fee is charged on the first of every month. I don't know if they will charge RM 1.50 if you invested for less than one month at the start. They didn't charge me anything when I first invested in late June.
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So, did you get charged for the month of July on 1/8/2020?
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Aug 13 2020, 06:49 PM)
So, did you get charged for the month of July on 1/8/2020?
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Oh wait, I was mistaken. I was charged on the 4th of August for the month of July

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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Aug 13 2020, 06:58 PM)
Oh wait, I was mistaken. I was charged on the 4th of August for the month of July

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This snapshot is from the Raiz app?
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Not sure who already feel it, recently conservative profile are dropping down, it could be our current memorandum period going to finish soon.
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Aug 13 2020, 06:59 PM)
This snapshot is from the Raiz app?
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Yeah. The fee is charged straight from my account in Raiz
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Aug 13 2020, 06:58 PM)
Oh wait, I was mistaken. I was charged on the 4th of August for the month of July

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Is your current investment below RM 6K ?
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QUOTE(CPURanger @ Aug 14 2020, 06:21 AM)
Is your current investment below RM 6K ?
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No, it's 6.3k. Hence, the fee is slightly higher than the minimum RM 1.50
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From FAQ,
https://raiz.com.my/support/

How and when Raiz receive its fee?

A monthly account fee of RM1.50 is payable if your Raiz Investment Account has a value of less than RM6,000 at the end of each month. This fee is to cover the cost of administering your Raiz Investment Account. The fee will be charged to your debit card nominated under your Funding Account.

If your Raiz Investment Account has a value of RM6,000 and more at the end of the month, the fee payable is 0.30% per annum of the Raiz Investment Account balance which will be charged to your Raiz Investment Account.

The monthly account fee will be charged to you no later than 7th day of the following month.

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Just wonder why the 5 cents (Rm 1.55). hmm.gif laugh.gif
I just put total of RM110.00 for Raiz, let's just see how goes.

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QUOTE(CPURanger @ Aug 14 2020, 09:48 AM)
From FAQ,
https://raiz.com.my/support/

How and when Raiz receive its fee?

A monthly account fee of RM1.50 is payable if your Raiz Investment Account has a value of less than RM6,000 at the end of each month. This fee is to cover the cost of administering your Raiz Investment Account. The fee will be charged to your debit card nominated under your Funding Account.

If your Raiz Investment Account has a value of RM6,000 and more at the end of the month, the fee payable is 0.30% per annum of the Raiz Investment Account balance which will be charged to your Raiz Investment Account.

The monthly account fee will be charged to you no later than 7th day of the following month.

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Just wonder why the 5 cents (Rm 1.55).  hmm.gif  laugh.gif
I just put total of RM110.00 for Raiz, let's just see how goes.
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you asked "Just wonder why the 5 cents (Rm 1.55)."?

if you invested RM6198.....you will need to pay 0.3%pa fees
thus 6.198 x 0.3% / 12 = 1.55 ? thus why 5 cents instead of 1.50?

if you just put total of RM110.00 for Raiz,...it will be 1.50 per month as per stated in your post

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I invest RM100 in Raiz..
consider RM1.50 per month means I need to pay 1.5% monthly fee..
in total, 18% per year..how to get higher dividend to cover the cost and making profit??
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QUOTE(fms21 @ Aug 18 2020, 04:01 PM)
I invest RM100 in Raiz..
consider RM1.50 per month means I need to pay 1.5% monthly fee..
in total, 18% per year..how to get higher dividend to cover the cost and making profit??
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Dividend is not Raiz nor your control.
It's under the hands of experienced god fund manager (PNB).

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QUOTE(fms21 @ Aug 18 2020, 04:01 PM)
I invest RM100 in Raiz..
consider RM1.50 per month means I need to pay 1.5% monthly fee..
in total, 18% per year..how to get higher dividend to cover the cost and making profit??
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Lol you are not going to get 18% return a year to cover the monthly fee.

Investing rm100 in Raiz is suicide. Either you switch to other platform that has no minimum fee, or you increase your investment to more than 6k or more.
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QUOTE(victorian @ Aug 19 2020, 10:59 AM)
Lol you are not going to get 18% return a year to cover the monthly fee.

Investing rm100 in Raiz is suicide. Either you switch to other platform that has no minimum fee, or you increase your investment to more than 6k or more.
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so thats the break even benchmark eh?
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Aug 19 2020, 11:11 AM)
so thats the break even benchmark eh?
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that 6k is the start point where they will charge you differently...
see post 1

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Aug 19 2020, 11:11 AM)
so thats the break even benchmark eh?
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The lowest you can go is 0.3% if you invest more than 6k. 0.6% if you invest 3k. If you invest less than that then other platform like StashAway with 0.8% fee is better.

Also you do not have much choice with Raiz
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 26 2020, 11:24 AM)
Should not have minimal charges
Go post at their Facebook
How to sikit sikit lama lama jadi Bukit?
If 1 month spare change is rm30 then 1.50 go raiz
5% per month which translate to 60% per annum
If somehow that month mco again and I got only rm1 invested then I have to cough out rm1.50 to save the rm1 with raiz
This is day light robbery
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came across this and just want to clarify your math:

you were referring to saving of only RM30 for one year, or every month you save RM30?
Because if you save RM30 every month, after one year the charge is equivalent to 5%.

Just pointing it out.
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QUOTE(victorian @ Aug 19 2020, 11:38 AM)
The lowest you can go is 0.3% if you invest more than 6k.  0.6% if you invest 3k. If you invest less than that then other platform like StashAway with 0.8% fee is better.

Also you do not have much choice with Raiz
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ok thanks. will bump up soon
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 30 2020, 01:36 AM)
DCA don't care how market react
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if your target is solely Msian market, then you can continue DCA.

But Msian market has not performing well for quite some time, not a place to grow money in short-to-mid term IMO.
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When will Raiz give the free RM 10 if I sign up under the referral code?
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When will Raiz give the free RM 10 if I sign up under the referral code?
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QUOTE(XHunTerx123 @ Aug 24 2020, 09:59 AM)
If need I can give me referral and try, not tested yet
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I sign up quite early so those early adopters don't get anything at all
Just too bad

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I sign up quite early so those early adopters don't get anything at all
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They changed the way they charge the fee lol. It's now listed as 0.025% a month for balances above 6k
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Sep 15 2020, 05:06 PM)
They changed the way they charge the fee lol. It's now listed as 0.025% a month for balances above 6k
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so still the same what?
still 0.3 per annum yes?

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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Sep 15 2020, 05:06 PM)
They changed the way they charge the fee lol. It's now listed as 0.025% a month for balances above 6k
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Below RM 6k is still fixed amount right?
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Sep 15 2020, 05:09 PM)
so still the same what?
still 0.3 per annum yes?
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Sep 15 2020, 05:15 PM)
Below RM 6k is still fixed amount right?
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Yeah I know that its still 0.3%p.a But I almost got tricked into thinking it was the same p.a as before, until I saw the "per month" part.

Still RM 1.50 per month for fixed amounts
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Hi guys, as a 21 year old student is it better to invest in raiz or direct buy ASB (fixed unit) for short term investment let say five years ? Eg i have a capital of 1k.

Considering the economy right now is it better to try dipping my toes in bursa instead?
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QUOTE(nikaizad @ Oct 8 2020, 04:17 PM)
Hi guys, as a 21 year old student is it better to invest in raiz or direct buy ASB (fixed unit) for short term investment let say five years ? Eg i have a capital of 1k.

Considering the economy right now is it better to try dipping my toes in bursa instead?
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ASB definitely better than Raiz.

As for bursa, how much return do you want in 5 years? what is your risk appetite ?

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QUOTE(nikaizad @ Oct 8 2020, 04:17 PM)
Hi guys, as a 21 year old student is it better to invest in raiz or direct buy ASB (fixed unit) for short term investment let say five years ? Eg i have a capital of 1k.

Considering the economy right now is it better to try dipping my toes in bursa instead?
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Raiz as professional manager help u invest
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QUOTE(Bora Prisoner @ Oct 8 2020, 04:33 PM)
ASB definitely better than Raiz.

As for bursa, how much return do you want in 5 years? what is your risk appetite ?
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Anything more than StashAway or Waheed would give me on aggressive portfolio. Honestly I wouldn't mind losing that one thousand.
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Anything more than StashAway or Waheed would give me on aggressive portfolio. Honestly I wouldn't mind losing that one thousand.
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All in glove stocks then

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All in glove stocks then
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end of days is apps making profit, hehe
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Aug 6 2020, 04:46 PM)
Opus + Samy saja right now
at least i tried before know how things works
like opus because if it is very liquid and low risk
like samy because return the best amoung all 3 i tried
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Where to download opus and samy? Could not find at playstore.
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Where to download opus and samy? Could not find at playstore.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...m.awp.stashaway

Opus only web based
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Will ASN Imbang 3 Global avaialble in Raiz?
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No news for now. Seems like maybe not, but who knows lol. Maybe discussions are currently ongoing
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Never ever buy ASN variable funds. Their returns are not good. Avoid at all cost.
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I'm looking for one bro,any suggestions about nice funds or investment?not the big bucks one.im poor lmao.
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I'm looking for one bro,any suggestions about nice funds or investment?not the big bucks one.im poor lmao.
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Open stashaway. Put max risk. Done.
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QUOTE(daidragon12 @ May 31 2020, 05:50 PM)
The concept is pretty interesting. They invest the difference in your spending. Example - you buy coffee at RM3.10, 90 cents will be invested. If RM 3.40, 60 cents will be invested.
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but RM1.50 per month will dilute your spare change, or even eat up all and end up invest nothing... shopback or buymore is better way for smart spender
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Hi Anas Mahmood, here are some Investing and Economic insights:

What is an Asset Class? Apa itu kelas asset?

When you invest in something, that “something” is an asset. Apabila anda melabur dalam sesuatu, "sesuatu" itu adalah aset.

There is different type of investment assets. Generally, they are (with examples); Terdapat pelbagai jenis aset pelaburan. Secara amnya, ia adalah (dengan contoh);

1. Equity Ekuiti

Shares or stocks. Some can be bought / sold publicly on the stock exchange like Bursa Malaysia, some are “private equity”. Saham. Sebahagiannya boleh dibeli / dijual secara terbuka di bursa saham seperti Bursa Malaysia, ada juga yang "ekuiti swasta".

2. Bonds / Sukuk Bon / Sukuk

You are lending money to the government or a company, and paid interest on the loan. Anda meminjamkan wang kepada kerajaan atau syarikat, dan membayar faedah pinjaman.

3. Real Estate Hartanah

Houses, lands, REITs. Rumah, tanah, Amanah Pelaburan Hartanah (REIT).

4. Commodities Komoditi

Gold, Palm oil. Emas, minyak sawit.

5. Digital Assets Aset digital

Crypto currency for example Bitcoin, Ethereum. Mata wang kripto seperti Bitcoin, Ethereum.

6. Cash Tunai

Cash, fixed deposit. Tunai, deposit tetap.

7. Others Lain-lain

Paintings. Lukisan.

Your Raiz investment portfolio (Aggressive / Moderate / Conservative) is investing in these asset classes through unit trust funds. Portfolio pelaburan Raiz anda (Agresif / Sederhana / Konservatif) melabur dalam kelas-kelas aset ini melalui dana unit amanah.
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jan 7 2021, 03:38 PM)
Who's still holding?
Mind share the performance/return to date?
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I'm still holding. Invested close to their inception in early July 2020.

So far so good. I put in RM 6k at the start to maximise the efficiency of the fees and have topped up RM100 per month. I mainly use Raiz as a long term savings/investment vehicle, and the returns are quite decent.

I'm invested in their Conservative portfolio, which is 80% in Sara 1 and 20% in Equity 3

Drillz below. Idm sharing the amounts

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I'm looking for one bro,any suggestions about nice funds or investment?not the big bucks one.im poor lmao.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 26 2020, 07:46 AM)
Open stashaway. Put max risk. Done.
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I concur with this. If you need something Shariah compliant, consider Waheed.
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here are some Investing and Economic insights:

Robo advisors are digital platforms that automate the process of investing and managing money on your behalf – powered by algorithms based on your investing goals and risk tolerance – with little to no human supervision.

So, what’s good about it?
No Emotions involved
Emotions are what make us humans (and they’re great), but they often lead to poor decisions when it comes to investing. Emotional buying and selling are often triggered by the market’s ups and downs. Warren Buffet once said, “If you cannot control your emotions, you cannot control your money.”

Ringgit Cost Averaging can be the best investment approach you can do by setting aside a small but regular amount of money on a regular basis. This clearly will avoid buy and sell based on sentiments and emotions.

With Raiz, you can set up easily to invest daily, weekly, fortnightly or even monthly.
Low fees
Robo-advisors typically charge significantly lower fees than traditional advisors do.

Raiz, for example, charge a simple fee of RM1.50 for account balance with less than RM6,000 (or 0.025% per month for account balance more than that). There is no sales charge, no withdrawal fees, and it’s always free to move money in and out of Raiz account!
Automatic portfolio rebalancing
Rebalancing portfolio to ensure that asset allocations are maintained even after markets move is generally time consuming and typically would generate some costs.

Robo advisors like Raiz help to monitor and rebalance your portfolio automatically at no additional cost.
Diversification
Robo Advisors often offer a diversified portfolio. This means investors have reduced concentrated exposures to a given sector, asset class, or investment style. It will spread and lower your investment risk which means you won’t be greatly affected if a particular sector performs badly.

Definition of the Week:
Ringgit Cost Averaging
Investing a fixed amount at regular schedule at your own pace and comfort regardless of the purchase price so you will get more when the price is low, and lesser when the price is high.


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Received email from Raiz, they finally accept funding from debit cards issued by any banks in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(tsutsugami86 @ Jan 15 2021, 11:06 AM)
Received email from Raiz, they finally accept funding from debit cards issued by any banks in Malaysia.
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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
wait so long

shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif

long time ago install punya apps tadi hampir mahu uninstall......but decide to keep as kenangan..... whistling.gif

how ur ppl profit?....
ok?

i saw only conservative punya ok, may b mostly bcoz of sara 1

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Received email from Raiz, they finally accept funding from debit cards issued by any banks in Malaysia.
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what’s the benefit?
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Without Maybank account can enter Raiz?

Only see one option: -

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what’s the benefit?
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no benefit, before that Raiz only accept funding from Maybank account, no Maybank account mean can't invest Raiz.
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Got FPX?
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I think no, i just have the email, the app had been uninstall laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jan 15 2021, 11:14 AM)
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wait so long

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long time ago install punya apps tadi hampir mahu uninstall......but decide to keep as kenangan..... whistling.gif

how ur ppl profit?....
ok?

i saw only conservative punya ok, may b mostly bcoz of sara 1
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Better first time put in RM 6,000, but i don't have so much money right now. So plan not to invest even can use other bank debit card to funding. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(tsutsugami86 @ Jan 15 2021, 11:27 AM)
Better first time put in RM 6,000, but i don't have so much money right now. So plan not to invest even can use other bank debit card to funding.  sweat.gif
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same here.
got 6k i prefer go others place lo brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(svchia78 @ Jan 15 2021, 11:18 AM)
Without Maybank account can enter Raiz?

Only see one option: -

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Spending account still only Maybank, just funding account can use other banks debit card

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Spending account still only Maybank, just funding account can use other banks debit card
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Link to a Spending Account is compulsory?
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Spending account still only Maybank, just funding account can use other banks debit card
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Oh... means if my bank account that has NO attached debit card cannot use?

I use ONE particular bank account to do all investments - UT, SAMY, Wahed, Luno.... and I have cancelled the attached no-use debit card.


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Don't know, i never invest to raiz when found that they only can fund by maybank account.
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QUOTE(svchia78 @ Jan 15 2021, 02:02 PM)
Oh... means if my bank account that has NO attached debit card cannot use?

I use ONE particular bank account to do all investments - UT, SAMY, Wahed, Luno.... and I have cancelled the attached no-use debit card.
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Temporary they open for all debit card, maybe next time can Fpx
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err my funding account still shows only Maybank option. already latest version. anyone else with same prob?
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err my funding account still shows only Maybank option. already latest version. anyone else with same prob?
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hanging between -3% to 2%. investing since few months in aggressive mode.
yesterday i stopped funding and withdraw all sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Bro, what alignment did they make? I haven't start with Wahed yet. So far now I put in a bit in Stashaway, FSM, and mainly at Opus Touch due to market conditions.
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FSM = Funding Societies Malaysia?

Would you please elaborate on what is Opus Touch? Haven't heard of it. TQ smile.gif
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FSM = Funding Societies Malaysia?

Would you please elaborate on what is Opus Touch? Haven't heard of it. TQ smile.gif
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there is an existing thread on FSM...
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4193169

there is also an existing thread on OPUS TOUCH
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4886774

check them out to know more?
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FSM = Funding Societies Malaysia?

Would you please elaborate on what is Opus Touch? Haven't heard of it. TQ smile.gif
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FSM = Fundsupermart
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I gather because my 1st attempt was trying to buy the limited quantity ASM funds. I'm a self-taught noob, don't know cannot open account without buying units. So I said okay lo, how about buying equity funds? Can you recommend how to get started? She's like eh adik pergi baca sendiri la. Ini nak beli ke tak, bukan untuk Q&A. I got fed-up & left LOL.

The wealth management industry in Malaysia is super-ripe for disruption to take this unpleasant experiences out of the way. BTW, i dumped RM6k in already. Let's see returns after 1 month.
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Sorry, did I miss your post after 1 month?
How's the returns so far?
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Sorry, did I miss your post after 1 month?
How's the returns so far?
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It was too slow moving in the end for me which I felt my 6K had a better opportunity to perform in SA & which I was glad I did because it appreciated significantly.

I will increase my Malaysia exposure with Wahed but this is to me a good enough option if opening an account with ASNB is torture like it was for me.
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how to invest in this? i put 6000, then it says will be processed within 4 days. no OTP and all?
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how to invest in this? i put 6000, then it says will be processed within 4 days. no OTP and all?
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No OTP, because direct debit from your bank account (Maybank) , unlik e other robo advisor where you transfer using FPX.
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No OTP, because direct debit from your bank account (Maybank) , unlik e other robo advisor where you transfer using FPX.
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so is it cheaper to invest asnb variable via raiz compared to directly via asnb?
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so is it cheaper to invest asnb variable via raiz compared to directly via asnb?
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if i not mistaken, at least 6k baru berbaloi,

less than this, better go some where else because the management fee (should b rm1.5 per month) hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jan 30 2021, 09:16 PM)
if i not mistaken, at least 6k baru berbaloi,

less than this, better go some where else because the management fee (should b rm1.5 per month)  hmm.gif
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Wah you suddenly very active hor...every post also see you hahaha
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QUOTE(thecurious @ Jan 30 2021, 09:17 PM)
Wah you suddenly very active hor...every post also see you hahaha
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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jan 30 2021, 09:16 PM)
if i not mistaken, at least 6k baru berbaloi,

less than this, better go some where else because the management fee (should b rm1.5 per month)  hmm.gif
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i see there’s sales charge 1.5% for sara 2 and 2% for equity 2 via asnb online. raiz 0.3% per annum, should be better for short term i guess.
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i see there’s sales charge 1.5% for sara 2 and 2% for equity 2 via asnb online. raiz 0.3% per annum, should be better for short term i guess.
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yes agree

but at least 6k baru can cover the rm1.5 per month.....

6000 x 0.3% = 18

18 /12 = 1.5

can u get it? brows.gif
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So buy via Raiz no sales charge?
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So buy via Raiz no sales charge?
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if not mistaken , no sales charge....

bro go flip this forum, i think got mention earlier b 4
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Wah you suddenly very active hor...every post also see you hahaha
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Maybe he is starting to lose sleep whistling.gif
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sorry bro, end of month is the day i starting to do my investment summary

i print out monthly.... brows.gif

tambahan pula, market start volatile, i try figure wanna top what fund next week whistling.gif

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yes agree

but at least 6k baru can cover the rm1.5 per month.....

6000 x 0.3% = 18

18 /12 = 1.5

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haha 6k not much.
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haha 6k not much.
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if wanna try oso can, just tak berbaloi aje bayar 1.5 monthly if less than 6k
u bullet enough, can try lo

assume u subcribe monthly astro rm60, but u always over time working n nv watch astro at all.
during weekend, u go back to ur parent house for visiting every week

u still wan suscribe the astro?
up to u la......
ur money... brows.gif

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jan 30 2021, 09:35 PM)
if wanna try oso can, just tak berbaloi aje bayar 1.5 monthly if less than 6k
u bullet enough, can try lo

assume u subcribe monthly astro rm60, but u always over time working n nv watch astro at all.
during weekend, u go back to ur parent house for visiting every week

u still wan suscribe the astro?
up to u la......
ur money... brows.gif
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Good advise because a lot of people underutilise when paying full price of it rclxms.gif
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Good advise because a lot of people underutilise when paying full price of it  rclxms.gif
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So how much you put into this Raiz app?
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So how much you put into this Raiz app?
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Any method to track Raiz investments? Such as Yahoo Finance or Investing.com?
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hi guys, been using RAIZ for the past few months, and i still dont have a clue how it works lol

what i noticed though, eg: i invest rm300 this week, and gained like rm10, so it shows rm310...

then next week, it suddenly back to rm300...

why ah?
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QUOTE(ahchat @ Mar 13 2021, 12:10 PM)
hi guys, been using RAIZ for the past few months, and i still dont have a clue how it works lol

what i noticed though, eg: i invest rm300 this week, and gained like rm10, so it shows rm310...

then next week, it suddenly back to rm300...

why ah?
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The profit/lost is base on the unit price ups/downs. So if the unit up 1%, your profit should be up by 1%. Raiz has a combination of 2 unit trusts for conventional and high risk profile - so calculation of profit will be slightly complicated than the balanced profile - it has to take account of both unit trust price of the day. To check the price, I usually got to ASNB website: [url=https://www.asnb.com.my/asnbv2_0index_EN.php[/url] - Click the orange box to see Today's price.

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Been trying out the app. Honestly, this is more useful (note: it's not necessarily profitable) for people who want another mean of saving up. Very easy to transfer fund, and as low as RM5 each transfer.

One strategy I think can be adopted is by topping up bit by bit after each visit to, for example, Starbucks. While the Starbucks visit is gonna rip us off badly, at least its relatively better outcome if we have a disciplined approach.

Can't think of any other way of using Raiz though, there are so many better places to park you RM6k for example..
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QUOTE(matyrze @ Mar 14 2021, 01:41 PM)
Been trying out the app. Honestly, this is more useful (note: it's not necessarily profitable) for people who want another mean of saving up. Very easy to transfer fund, and as low as RM5 each transfer.

One strategy I think can be adopted is by topping up bit by bit after each visit to, for example, Starbucks. While the Starbucks visit is gonna rip us off badly, at least its relatively better outcome if we have a disciplined approach.

Can't think of any other way of using Raiz though, there are so many better places to park you RM6k for example..
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point on the part where people need a way to save up. this platform is not for people who already planned how to manage their savings and spending.
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QUOTE(thecurious @ Mar 14 2021, 04:03 PM)
point on the part where people need a way to save up. this platform is not for people who already planned how to manage their savings and spending.
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Yup, truly putting the 'sikit-sikit lama-lama jadi bukit' concept into reality. Which to be honest, a lot of Malaysians need to start doing.

I just wish that Raiz do highlight this as their main intention though. Put up banner or something on main page. Just be tell upfront the users on the higher fees and lower return investment, or else those newbies they try to help at the first place, will quickly become discouraged due to wrong expectation.
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QUOTE(extinct_83 @ Mar 13 2021, 11:30 AM)
The profit/lost is base on the unit price ups/downs. So if the unit up 1%, your profit should be up by 1%. Raiz has a combination of 2 unit trusts for conventional and high risk profile - so calculation of profit will be slightly complicated than the balanced profile - it has to take account of both unit trust price of the day. To check the price, I usually got to ASNB website: [url=https://www.asnb.com.my/asnbv2_0index_EN.php[/url] - Click the orange box to see Today's price.
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Can someone elaborate on this image here?

The balance always changes on day to day basis

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Can someone elaborate on this image here?

The balance always changes on day to day basis
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You quoted the answer to your question in the post lol
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Can someone elaborate on this image here?

The balance always changes on day to day basis
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This number behind the purple background is the unrealized profits/lost + your contribution. If you click the 'Past' tap at the top (next to 'Today') you'll see more detail of how much you have contributed at 'Invested by you' and how much profit/losses at "Market returns". If you get dividends, it will be posted at "Reinvested dividends".
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moving out once i breakeven. should have known asnb variable fund are only so so
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moving out once i breakeven. should have known asnb variable fund are only so so
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Why wait till breakeven? Lost too much?
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Why wait till breakeven? Lost too much?
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How much returns your guys gained from this ?
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This thread still alive ah? Or everyone close account already lol

Did anyone notice that dividend is not included into the account value?

My understanding is your account value should be Invested by You + Market Return + Dividend

Now is just Invested by You + Market Return, means you cant withdraw your dividend

Or did I misunderstood something here?
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This thread still alive ah? Or everyone close account already lol

Did anyone notice that dividend is not included into the account value?

My understanding is your account value should be Invested by You + Market Return + Dividend

Now is just Invested by You + Market Return, means you cant withdraw your dividend

Or did I misunderstood something here?
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for that, i googled and found this

Won’t I earn distributions from my portfolio?
Yes, you will! Your distributions will be automatically reinvested in your portfolio. You can view your distribution history through the Raiz app.

https://www.raiz.com.my/support/
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QUOTE(yayai @ Apr 7 2021, 10:23 AM)
This thread still alive ah? Or everyone close account already lol

Did anyone notice that dividend is not included into the account value?

My understanding is your account value should be Invested by You + Market Return + Dividend

Now is just Invested by You + Market Return, means you cant withdraw your dividend

Or did I misunderstood something here?
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instant regret. waiting to breakeven before moving all out.
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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 7 2021, 10:28 AM)
for that, i googled and found this

Won’t I earn distributions from my portfolio?
Yes, you will! Your distributions will be automatically reinvested in your portfolio. You can view your distribution history through the Raiz app.

https://www.raiz.com.my/support/
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I'm not talking about distributions la, I'm talking about withdrawing what is suppose to be the total value of my account.


QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Apr 7 2021, 10:35 AM)
instant regret. waiting to breakeven before moving all out.
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Updated: Support finally replied, turns out the dividend is already included in the account value, just the app doesn't list out the detail transaction, which is another thing I don't quite like a bout Raiz

Requested for account closure already so bye Raiz!

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QUOTE(yayai @ Apr 7 2021, 10:23 AM)
This thread still alive ah? Or everyone close account already lol

Did anyone notice that dividend is not included into the account value?

My understanding is your account value should be Invested by You + Market Return + Dividend

Now is just Invested by You + Market Return, means you cant withdraw your dividend

Or did I misunderstood something here?
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just closed the account last week with 0.33% profit in 6 months. im surprised there is even profit.
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I just withdraw the money from Raiz.
I started invested from last October with monthly RM 30 contribution and some auto round-up. Aggressive profolio which were ASE3 (80%) and ASNS1 (20 %)
FInally i got RM 13.04 return.....

The key reason i found their monthly maintenance fee was higher than expectation.
Example: If i invested RM 480, even no withdraw, they will still charge RM 1.5 as maintenance fee.
So the total maintenance fee is RM 1.5 x 12 = RM 18
RM18/RM 480 = 3.75 % per annum.

For easier calculation, Take note that if there are no variation of the fund value, you still need to pay RM 1.5 each month, unless you reach RM 6000 value and the fee change to 0.3 %. so it is reoccurance of 3.75 % or RM 18 per year

If you buy through online ASNB portal, it just 2 % one-short and you didn't need to bother any maintenance fee
https://www.asnb.com.my/asnbv2_2funds_EN.php#asn-e3

So in summary, my review is neutral for Raiz, this is actually for those to let the app directly Auto deduct the value and maintain investment discipline...
But if for those investor whom can directly invest, then you can save some fees in long run.



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I just withdraw the money from Raiz.
I started invested from last October with monthly RM 30 contribution and some auto round-up. Aggressive profolio which were ASE3 (80%) and ASNS1 (20 %)
FInally i got RM 13.04 return.....

The key reason i found their monthly maintenance fee was higher than expectation.
Example: If i invested RM 480, even no withdraw, they will still charge RM 1.5 as maintenance fee.
So the total maintenance fee is RM 1.5 x 12 = RM 18
RM18/RM 480 = 3.75 % per annum.

For easier calculation, Take note that if there are no variation of the fund value, you still need to pay RM 1.5 each month, unless you reach RM 6000 value and the fee change to 0.3 %. so it is reoccurance of 3.75 % or RM 18 per year

If you buy through online ASNB portal, it just 2 % one-short and you didn't need to bother any maintenance fee
https://www.asnb.com.my/asnbv2_2funds_EN.php#asn-e3

So in summary, my review is neutral for Raiz, this is actually for those to let the app directly Auto deduct the value and maintain investment discipline...
But if for those investor whom can directly invest, then you can save some fees in long run.
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Well done on reviewing and realizing it.
But just saying, you could have avoided it if you read the first page.
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post Sep 21 2021, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(thecurious @ Sep 21 2021, 01:48 PM)
Well done on reviewing and realizing it.
But just saying, you could have avoided it if you read the first page.
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yes, but i think you may be misunderstood.
It should be giving a try for any new investment scheme...

Ofcourse, as careful invester, i read all the pages and trace the investment.
The market didn't perform well to supercede the return.

Furthermore, i compare the return from Raiz vs if i directly invest it.
I found it better to do directly to save the cost, at least from maintenance fee point of view.

Anyway, thanks for sharing the idea.
At least we learn a lesson what to do....

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post Sep 21 2021, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Shining star @ Sep 21 2021, 02:04 PM)
yes, but i think you may be misunderstood.
It should be giving a try for any new investment scheme...

Ofcourse, as careful invester, i read all the pages and trace the investment.
The market didn't perform well to supercede the return.

Furthermore, i compare the return from Raiz vs if i directly invest it.
I found it better to do directly to save the cost, at least from maintenance fee point of view.

Anyway, thanks for sharing the idea.
At least we learn a lesson what to do....
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Nope, no misunderstanding unless you mis represented your points.
Your summary about direct investing and maintenance fees are all discussed in the first few pages already.
But anyway you already found out after experiencing it yourself. Just saying you could have avoided it.

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post Sep 21 2021, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(thecurious @ Sep 21 2021, 02:10 PM)
Nope, no misunderstanding unless you mis represented your points.
Your summary about direct investing and maintenance fees are all discussed in the first few pages already.
But anyway you already found out after experiencing it yourself. Just saying you could have avoided it.
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Let wait for other to check whether my points are correct...

I think Raiz is same like Stashaway and Wahed?
Have you read those condition? if yes, just share with us...
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post Sep 21 2021, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Shining star @ Sep 21 2021, 04:54 PM)
Let wait for other to check whether my points are correct...

I think Raiz is same like Stashaway and Wahed?
Have you read those condition? if yes, just share with us...
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Think you are the one misunderstanding here. I never said your points are wrong.
I said they are already discussed in the first few pages.
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post Jul 28 2022, 05:15 PM

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anyone still using raiz? just curious need to hold for how long ... or once get satisfied return then sell off all the units ...

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