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Investment Raiz Malaysia, https://raiz.com.my/

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GrumpyNooby
post May 31 2020, 10:21 PM

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How do Raiz make money?

Raiz is completely free to download. Once an account is opened, there are no fees on RM0 balances and after that we only charge RM1.50 per month for accounts with a balance under RM6,000 and 0.30% per year (charged monthly, computed daily), for accounts with a balance of RM6,000 and over.
GrumpyNooby
post May 31 2020, 10:32 PM

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Maybe it's a cheaper alternative to BIMB BEST:

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https://bimbinvestment.com.my/
GrumpyNooby
post Jun 1 2020, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 1 2020, 12:17 PM)
All Raiz investment portfolios are investing in unit trust funds managed by Amanah Saham Nasional Berhad (ASNB), a wholly-owned subsidiary company of Permodalan Nasional Berhad (PNB).
https://raiz.com.my/blog/
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Any advantage of investing via Raiz vs investing divertly with ASNB?
GrumpyNooby
post Jun 1 2020, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 1 2020, 01:15 PM)
most probably I think the main advantage is helping one with limited amount of money to form a UT portfolio that are consisted of various funds

for that help, one has to fork out the "extra" charges .... biggrin.gif
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The scope is only for ASX VP funds not ASX FP funds right? hmm.gif
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post Jun 1 2020, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Jun 1 2020, 02:22 PM)
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taken from myasnb website

so ya. the ASN Equiti Tiga is.. ok la i guess
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Are my eyes not OK?
I see the prices for almost all the funds are on the downward trend (sliding down).
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post Jun 1 2020, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Jun 1 2020, 02:33 PM)
hahaha cannot be more than the God funds (ASB1 and 2)

so guys, move along, wahed and stashaway it is.  tongue.gif
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Got that huge difference or not? hmm.gif

It's like heaven and earth (or even hell) difference! dry.gif
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post Jun 1 2020, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jun 1 2020, 05:00 PM)
Maybe jalal rashid can make some magic, nobody knows. This guy is suppose to be a game changer for pnb. Still, there is no info in the sales charge from the fund, is it waived or reduced signifcantly compared to investing in those fund by yourself.
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Who is he?
GrumpyNooby
post Jun 1 2020, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jun 1 2020, 05:15 PM)
The Ex-BNM governor is what position in PNB?
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post Jun 1 2020, 06:43 PM

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I thought it can open access to AUS equity market and also BTC like Raiz AU.

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post Jun 1 2020, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(encikbuta @ Jun 1 2020, 09:11 PM)
i was initially excited coz i thought the same! why can't we have nice things  sad.gif
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Maybe after few months later, they realize that it was a mistake like Wahed MY. dry.gif
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post Jun 2 2020, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(daidragon12 @ Jun 2 2020, 02:27 PM)
Why Wahed is a mistake?
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If it's not a mistake, why are they doing the realignment exercise?
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post Jun 4 2020, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(funboy555 @ Jun 4 2020, 01:02 PM)
Bro, what alignment did they make? I haven't start with Wahed yet. So far now I put in a bit in Stashaway, FSM, and mainly at Opus Touch due to market conditions.
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This is their alignment:

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From Wahed Email
We will be upgrading your US Stocks portion of your portfolio with a fund with the following benefits*:

Diversification
Our new fund that we will be adding to your investment portfolio under the US Stocks asset class will provide a wider exposure to more than 200 of the largest shariah-compliant US companies from various industries whilst maintaining a low expense ratio.

Liquidity
Our new fund to replace the current ETF for the US Stocks that you have currently will provide greater liquidity due to the larger exchange where it is listed in. More liquidity means a more timely deposit allocation and withdrawals for you.
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Our clients with portfolios that has a US Stocks allocation*, the upgrading process will lead to the following temporary conditions until the week ending 1st week of June 2020:

US Stocks Allocation
Your portfolio will not be allocated the US Stocks portion. Your funds allocated to US Stocks will remain as cash until the portfolio upgrade has been completed.


US Stocks Price Movements
As your US Stocks holdings are temporarily held in cash there will be no price movements for your US Stocks portion of your portfolio. Other assets in your portfolio will not be affected and it will continue to be invested during this period.


Withdrawal and Deposits
Feel free to make deposits and withdrawals during this period we will process it as per normal.

Once the portfolio upgrade has been completed, you will see a new updated fund under your US stocks holding. Your funds will be automatically invested to match your risk portfolio allocation.


Should be completed by this Saturday (Malaysian time).

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post Jun 4 2020, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(funboy555 @ Jun 4 2020, 01:19 PM)
Thanks Bro.

I thought they are "Robo Advisors". Shouldn't the robo do the auto allocation and why there is "Human" step in and do alignment?
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The robo advisor thing is on the allocation part.

The re-alignment is same like SAMY re-optimization.
They're changing the US stocks segment from MyETF-US50 to HLAL.
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post Jun 5 2020, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(Kamikaze9393 @ Jun 5 2020, 01:07 PM)
I think they changed the faq cause I just looked at it, it says

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Im guessing that means no need pay tax? also just invested rm100 yesterday n got a 6.71% change in value today
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No tax for capital gain from equity market.
No tax for dividend received under single tier taxation.

6.71% return in 1 day? hmm.gif
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post Jun 5 2020, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Kamikaze9393 @ Jun 5 2020, 01:18 PM)
tbh I dunno anything bout investments, I only intended to use this as a piggy bank. all I know I'm investing in amanah saham national funds.

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Is this into ASN EQUITY 3 (Variable Price)?
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post Jun 5 2020, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Kamikaze9393 @ Jun 5 2020, 02:20 PM)
According to app its 100% ASN Imbang 2
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Thanks!

I just want to know how's the number being derived from.

Based on ASN VP price from The Star Online: https://www.thestar.com.my/business/unit-trust?d=04-06-2020

Price for ASN Imbang 2 is below:

2/6: 0.8788
3/6: 0.8855
4/6: 0.8913

Return between 4/6 and 3/6 is just 0.65%
Return between 2/6 and 3/6 is 0.76%
Return between 2/6 and 4/6 is 1.42%

Interesting, where does the 6.71% come from? blink.gif

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post Jun 9 2020, 02:22 PM

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No sales fee/charge is a best boost for Raiz platform.

If they offer ASNB FP too, that'll will be heaven!

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post Jun 11 2020, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Jun 11 2020, 08:08 PM)
It is much cheaper via Raiz. If you tried to buy from ASNB directly, you'll incur a sales charge and a higher annual management fee. For example, here's the fund fact sheet for ASN Sara 1, one of the funds Raiz invests in.

This fund has a Sales Charge of 3.5% and an annual management fee of 1% p.a. Right off the start, you'll be losing about 4.5% each time you buy units. Even if you bought through the ASNB app, it's still has a Sales Charge of 1.5%.

Raiz mentions no sales charges and a very low management fee of 0.3%p.a if you invest more than 6k. Which is what I'm going to do after redeeming my current holdings
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I'm confused! confused.gif

By buying from Raiz, there's no need to pay an annual management fee of 1% p.a for the said fund?

I thought the annual management fee s accrued daily and reflected in the fund daily published fund price.

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1.0% per annum of the NAV of the Fund, calculated and accrued daily


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post Jun 12 2020, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(abcn1n @ Jun 12 2020, 11:47 PM)
Bad mentality by the clerk. Its her duty to help customers especially when customer wants to buy. Glad you left
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Of course, buying from Raiz is cheaper; lower annual management fee of just 0.3% pa compared to buying directly from PNB that needs to fork out 1% pa.

Don't quote me. I didn't open any account with Raiz.
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post Jun 15 2020, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(funboy555 @ Jun 15 2020, 04:03 PM)
Can someone enlighten me on this as well? Are you sure the 1% p.a. is waived? Because the management fee should be accrued daily like what GrumpyNooby said right?

In that case, isn't it paying 1.3% management fee?
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QUOTE(XHunTerx123 @ Jun 15 2020, 04:59 PM)
Please enlighten me too, since I'm also just see alot of bad comment before this. But if really a alternative for stashaway I will prepare it as well.
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Answer:

QUOTE(frostbyte13 @ Jun 11 2020, 08:33 PM)
Believe that to be the case. Raiz is investing on your behalf as an advisor; they absorb whatever fees ASNB would levy traditionally on any prospective buyer. The difference here I believe as to how Raiz can afford to charge such a low management fee (which I suspect for now is predatory to win the market) is because they have a JV through with PNB. This collaboration of technology owner directly with the funds owner allows for a removal of some element of costs that could be attributable to digital optimisation of processes. Who knows (or a sifu can enlighten); maybe the reason why all this while the costs are super high have been due to inefficient practices of fund management.
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