Malaysians and the Far Easterns in general really love to 'supplement'. But why? Are we deficient in certain things. Do you not know that a large majority of the duties of the liver, the gastrointestinal tract, the biliary system, the blood system and the kidney systems are actually geared to get rid of things that we bring into our body? What happens to all those Vitamin C you get in your food everyday? Yes, a great deal are in your urine.

Supplement sellers are excellent for you, but only if you are deficient in certain things. I would like you to exercise caution in taking too much Calcium. Chances are, we in the brightly lit country like Malaysia, you are well-stocked with Vit D and Calcium. So, before you 'supplement' these, consider your health. There are people that are on treatment in hospitals for Hypercalcaemia or Hypervitaminosis D, you know. Too much of Calcium can get coronaries, and you would pay hundreds of thousands RM to undo your mistakes.

See below, and be intelligent and do not become hypercalcaemic. Calcium supplement-peddlers are friends for you, but only if you are deficient in Calcium.



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And make sure to do weight exercise a bit in order for the body to absorb all the calcium from your supplements.

good point tekkaus
in terms of best co-factors to help Calcium to be absorbed, it is Vit C. hence the use by hospitals adn doctors of prescribing the combination tablet in people with gastric bypass (no longer have enough parts of gastrointestinal tract to absorb Calcium effectively)

Amazing how people 30 years ago did not lose all their bones and die.
Maybe TS wants to promote smoking too, to help people relax.

no, we have to promote sensible and safe calcium levels.
you cannot take calcium supplements if your levels are normal. if you do, you enter hypercalcaemic range and will develop cardiovascular complications, coronary complications and stone-related diseases.
if your calcium levels are low, you must engage in calcium replacement therapy with 3-monthly calcium level blood tests.

If your calcium levels are low, do you want to see rinsedpie sales person sell you supplements

or

do want to see a nutritionist and correct your food and nutrition eating habits?

If you choose a sales man remember sign up for life long subscription in pills that is not even assured of its content and purity. Could just be sugar tablets.

Promote SENSIBLE and SAFE calcium levels then ask your nutritionist what vegetables and fruits can provide this NATURALLY without pill supplements.

If you have doubt again, look at 30 years or 100 years ago when there were no calcium supplements.

Look above, it is tekkaus that suggest exercise to help with calcium condition not our new friendly neighbourhood sales person.

Im not a sales man. I just advocate for people not to rely on supplements. Do not take supplements unless your Calcium is low. if you are not osteoporotic, dont take it. Do not listen to people who are trying to sell their products or their supplements or their nutritional business. Ask your doctors.

Why would I promote smoking? Why did you accuse that. What are you talking about? Our topic is unopposed Calcium supplements intake in people who are NOT hypocalcaemic. I have a small feeling that you are aware of what the point behind this thread.

It's interesting to see someone accuses TS of promoting supplements when TS is literally raising awareness about the harm of 'abusing' supplements. Not sure how that went into his head for him to do such accusation.

Eat more Green Leafy veg especially Spinach. And daily get 10-15mins of morning Sun (Vit D). No need eat calcium supplements as excess calcium can get deposited in Heart arteries.

+1

Look into spinach again, deeper.

thank you for helping clearing up some misunderstanding

yes, chronic too much Calcium in the blood causes alot of medical issues as people didnt realize they cant supplement it if their blood levels are normal and a great majority of people have normal calcium levels.

Acidity in out blood draws Calcium out of our bones to maintain PH. A diet rich in animal products especially dairy 🥛 is very acidic. It is no coincidence that the Developed countries that consumes the most quantity of Dairy products also has some of the highest incidence of Osteoporosis.

good point. and not to forget also the fact that the majority of the developed nations are poor sunlight exposure.

Yes, as above, weight training helps. Also vitamin k2 & vitamin D3 along with calcium are good for better absorption and right distribution of nutrients.

This post has been edited by Just2centslah: Jun 6 2020, 07:43 PM

Ok, I am here just to chip in for the acid blood myth,
There been long debated that was a myth since many study does cannot find a conclusion of eating alkaline food/water turn alkaline in our body, as :

1 ) your stomach is very acidic, it will produce more acid when hit with alkaline, else no stomach acids, no food breakdown, so our digestive system doesn't work as direct as expected.

2) our blood pH is balance is very delicate with our organ, so it cannot move too much else it will cause a problem to the body already.

Source: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/the-alkaline-diet-myth


on the side note. I do agree, it is not simple to reach daily RDA for calcium, but since it will stay in your body, I guess as long as you are not suffering from calcium deficiency its not a must to supplement / follow strictly .

I believe none of the people here talks about alkaline/acidic diet, lol. It's about milk, that is acidic due to the presence of lactic acid or in other words, acid-forming food and its counterpart is the alkaline-forming food, will temporarily lower down the blood pH and our body will use the calcium ions available in our bloodstream to pull up the blood pH to normal range through negative feedback and at the same time the calcium from milk will get absorbed into our body back while the existing calcium in our bone will convert into calcium ions to our bloodstream.

This post has been edited by Yenactiet: Jun 14 2020, 06:04 PM

Im impressed that thus far this is the most complete comment i have seen here on the combination for better calcium absorption..and add Vit C does helps to intestinal calcium absorption..make sure it has potassium and magnesium together to prevent calcium oxalate stones..

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Ah I see , I misunderstand these. So it's about "diet-induced ‘low-grade’ metabolic acidosis". It's quite a long read on that, however the effect of acidosis is more prominent when you are woman having postmenstrual / long term meat eating diet like American. Even so the study is a bit inconclusive since it take long to happen and so many factor can affect it result. Surprisingly the way to counter this is to take sodium/potassium bicarbonate(alkaline supplement) instead of extra calcium or just include fruit and vegetable for normal diet.

While for lactic acidosis , I feel less concerned, I believe our body frequently deal with it since our muscle always produce it. So I feel dairy is not that bad. Or if its a concern, banana milk sound great !
Another matter if your body have underlying issue for any of them causing acidosis because it can't cope with it.

This post has been edited by angelic88: Jun 24 2020, 11:31 PM

Yes, that is why I mentioned the counterpart of acid-forming food is the alkaline-forming food as it literally does the opposite of what acid-forming food do. And of course, it's usually not a concern for healthy ones because our digestive system has probably adapted to it since ages ago. But one correction to make, our muscles don't always produce lactic acid, they only produce them when our bodies are lacking oxygen which only happens during rapid movements. While non-dairy milk is great too, they just can't provide calcium and protein like dairy milk does, so that's a con of it.